I've read the sidebar and some of the mentioned materials. I've had some luck with women but not as much as I desired.
The most common thing is flaking in a way where if I do set up a date, they find an excuse 2 3 days later.
For example, I'm talking to this blondie. She's like 6-7. Since I'm younger I added her on snap, we live in a same small town. She kept asking me questions, I didn't chase her at all (like said in lessons). I'll talk to her, snap with her at night and then either seen her or leave on delivered till the next night.
She was always the 1st one to hit me up every night. Since 1st day we didn't talk as much, the 2nd day I asked her out. She was very enthusiastic and wanted to go out. I set up a date and all that.
Day after she would still talk, ask me questions first and all that. Following day she didn't hit me up, maybe she went to sleep or she saw that I'm out and didn't want to bother ig.
Today she hits me up again and sends black screen saying her grandpa is sick and she's visiting him at hospital. It's amazing how they can lie, it's obvisouly an excuse and I had the exact same excuse told before by other girls.
It's really pathetic to lie about your grandpa being at the deathdoor basically and she even has a psalm on her Insta, talk about being "godly".
At that night only 3-4 black screen snaps she sent, but before she would send me half-sexual snaps, she in dress or smth like that.
The problem is she didn't even reschedule, like saying I can't this day let's go the other day. I think I'll ask her again in 2-3 days and if she flakes again I'll remove her.
Why this happens? A girl agrees to go on a date and then flakes, that's basically the most common pattern that I get with girls when they "suddenly" flake.
UniteDreamAndDay 1mo ago
Just spend your time increasing your SMV, don't waste it analyzing these interactions. It will flow easily if they have real attraction for you.
MrSupreme 2mo ago
I think thet flake because there's just not enough attraction/interest. Maybe your chats are too serious,try and make her laugh a little, being funny is only bad when you try too hard or become a clown. Balance the serious "mysterious" stuff with funny
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
There's so much girls that just send "hahaha" and you know they don't laugh. I've been told multiple times tham I'm funny and have good jokes (not in a clown way). But there's too much of girls that just snap to snap.
Today I "talked" to this 1 chick, she was sendins boobs in a crop top. Nothing I said is funny to her, you can't even talk to her. There's too much examples like this. They aren't fun themselves and I can't make them have a laugh. It's like they're broken toys.
No-Stress-Cat 2mo ago
If she's flaking, you're not her top priority. Block. Next.
AbusiveFather1 2mo ago
It all comes down to this - it’s not rocket science
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
Post is heavy on the results, light on what your vibe or actions leading up to asking them out and what you do during the waiting period before the date is supposed to happen
I see you mentioned her initial enthusiasm but that it isn't enough information for what else happened
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
We just talk, I ask her a couple of questions about her, don't want to ask too much bcs it destroys mystery and it could bore her, leading me into a friendzone bcs she is "familiar" with me and there's no tension.
During waiting period it's basically same thing. I just didn't snap as much bcs I need to keep mystery and also I didn't have time.
When I do go out with a girl it's basically the same, talk for max 3 days then we go out if she's available, same amount of talking and actions I did with this girl.
I'd guess she "changed her mind" or there's another dude that's become available or someone hit her up and she'll either ghost or dump me or give another chance if that guy doesn't work out. But maybe I did something wrong or something else that's why I even ploted this. Maybe it's something completely different and I don't know the reason.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
There is no vibe dude. Taking the mystery thing so literally that you are boring her. Mysteriousness only works if the rest of your life and attributes do some talking. It sounds like there is zero vibe
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
How should I improve then, how to create vibe? I find it hard to do so since I always create vibe in person. And wdym about if my life and attributes do some talking? How mysterios do I need to be?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
There isn't a formula. Allude to things. Make women chase information about you while giving some at a time
No simple answer to this question.
Stop taking snippets of TRP literally and be a socially well adjusted fun male who leads
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
I've read also somewhere that I should tease them and allude or assume things about her and I do that in person very well, but not online. So you mean she should do same as I do to them?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
Dude you are the lead. lead.
It doesn't matter if you're in person or not. Make a good impression and have a vibe and if she doesn't like you move on. None of this is Rocket science or a formula
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
tnx man, as I see it, this girl is basically a remove, I already fucked up
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
Possibly. I've fucked chicks a year after it went nowhere tho.
Just go radio silent and game other women and don't view interactions with women like a formula.
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
Does it mean I should cut her off completely? I always even after them not rescheduling try to invite them out. Before I asked till the 3rd time, now I'll ask maximum 2 times.
And then at the 2nd time if she doesn't want to I go radio silent?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2mo ago
Just stop initiating conversation
First-light 2mo ago
Don't forget that you are only seeing half the picture and can never see any more with a stranger. If this is always happening in similar interactions, then shake something up, do it a bit different next time. Agree to meet sooner, lead the conversation more (yeah don't be too afraid of that so long as its not needy or simpy) even or try a lower SMV girl next time so that you are worth more to her. Just try something different because its not working as it is.
However, do remember that you can only see your half of the picture. She may have a good reason to flake. If you can't tell if its a standard excuse or if its not (which you usually can't when you don't know a person), give them another try acting like you totally believe the excuse but be expecting the worst. You need a large enough data set to be able to quantify if a given girl is or is not serious. No one is perfectly predictable or can be played by numbers, especially when you don't know them.
Most likely, however, she is just be a better than average looking girl playing the field and you were just one of many reasonable options that she is not taking up this time. Remember that on the dating scene this sort of girl is what you will come across most often. Why? because you would pass over the 4's and 5's and the 8's and 9's are rare and maybe out of most men's leagues most of the time. So these 6's and 7's get all the attention. She is experienced. Inexperienced girls do not send random guys they just started talking to nudes. Some girls just love to play. Getting you on the hook is fun itself.
Masun Can't think for myself 2mo ago
As 1 guy said here u think I should create a vibe? Like assuming something about her and she'll reciprocate? The 6, 7 are my only options. I'm let's say a 6 atm, the 8, 9 are pretty much always too uninsterested, boring, god-complex having or biggest attention whores.
As for the excuse I always like to test if their excuse is real or not, how far would they go. In this example she should feel guilt about me believeing her excuse. When you lie you feel guilty.
I'm in this limbo rn, just a bit lower SMV than her, they always lack in something big. Those girls want me and others dude ofc, either they're to emotionally invested really early, fat, crooked teeth or something out of the ordinary. Even if I wanted to be with them I just can't.