Here it is. (Spoilers: "Of course you aren't.")
What I found most interesting was the number of questions with a "yes, but I felt bad about it" option. It got me thinking. Over the past couple of decades, our society seems to have confused remorse with intention.
When a person does something they didn't mean to, they often feel remorseful. If you accidentally kill somebody by hitting them with your car, it's natural to feel incredibly bad about it. That's why it's tempting to think "they must not have meant it" when seeing somebody lamenting some previous action.
But remorse doesn't always come from a lack of intention. If you hit someone with a car deliberately, you might feel absolutely terrible about it, but you still intended to hit them. Just because you are remorseful in a later, more sober state doesn't mean it was an accident. It means you lost control, or you weren't evaluating the consequences of your actions.
Put more simply, accidents are not the same as a failure to control yourself, and feeling bad about doing something bad does not make it an accident. This should be obvious. I think the reason it's not is in part because the more we emphasize feelings, the more likely it is for a non-emotional concept like "intention" to get confused with the emotions associated with intention, like remorse.
electricitygives 6y ago
Today I learned that, emotions somehow dictate reality, and can even shift reality to what you feel! /s
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Remorse doesn't mean the same to women as it does to men.
When a man feels remorse he has contemplated his actions and recognized his own failure. He assesses his part in it all.
Women don't feel remorse...they only express it. This is because they are incapable of taking ownership of their behavior. To them remorse is a tool, something you can fake when it is socially appropriate, to ultimately bend the narrative.
Watch how fast it takes the average women to hijack the topic. It goes from a bad situation to how bad She FEELS about the situation.
It's like watching a magician almost.
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Doesn't even have to be sexual. Tell her your dad has cancer, and within 30 seconds the conversation will be all about how she feels about your dad having cancer.
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TheRealJesusChristus 6y ago
Thats totally wrong. While women can do wht you say (and sociopathic women also do that and only that to manipulate others) women do have feelings. They can feel remorse and do.
When lets say a woman drives and kills a human she will feel genuinly bad about it. What do you think, women are robots?
Of course theres a difference but women are humans and humans have feelings of remorse when failing. Maybe men have them way faster and more often and women fake them more often but in the end they do have those feeling sometimes.
Vithonil 6y ago
I don't think you can compare something as horrible as killing another person with cheating in a relationship and not feeling remorse about that particular action which in her female mind was nothing "bad". Killing another person triggers remorse in both genders because it is an entirely different thing than how people behave in relationships.
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Women can feel bad. Sure. But that is not remorse.
Remorse implies ownership. Accountability. Women are incapable of this.
319Skew 6y ago
There was a time where I would've argued this but then I remembered how a union of two halves, I was 100% accountable to all the fuck ups in my marriage. I could've counted the times where she took accountability for her wrongdoings but in retrospect never owned it as her issues (poor financial decisions, rash impulse, emotional outbursts, manipulations, etc.) were always present down the road.
Meanwhile, I was jealous, worked on that. Conquered my demons and never allowed myself to feel that again.
Didiathon 6y ago
I wouldn’t say remorse implies ownership. If you empathize with someone you harmed, you can feel bad and wish things went differently without owning your decision. I’d still call that remorse.
Sometimes those feelings are overwhelming and transform into hatred towards the person who was harmed, as empathizing with them is painful. This happens to women more frequently, as they tend to have less control over what affects them emotionally.
And while I get what you’re saying, I don’t think women are incapable of being accountable, they just generally don’t have the same drive for independence that men do and aren’t attracted to the same ideals. That doesn’t mean there is no ideal for women to complement the ideal man.
I’d argue that the majority of the pathological behaviors present in women today come from a lack of incentive to mature. Birth control, divorce law and the amount of social programs available to women are all contributing factors; women used to mature because they needed to settle down with a lower status man to avoid poverty/becoming a social pariah, and had to learn to nurture and build up their partner if they wanted a higher status man. Because the ways in which women mature doesn’t raise their SMV, and there’s no longer anything preventing them from acting out their more socially destructive negative tendencies, many don’t mature.
virtuallyvirtuous 6y ago
What do you mean by "accountable?" Obviously women can take tasks upon themselves. They'd be pretty useless if they couldn't.
Whitified 6y ago
Of course they do. Women are 100% feelings. Women are nothing without feelings.
Remorse is not a feeling.
liefelijk 6y ago
How is remorse not a feeling?
Whitified 6y ago
guilt is a feeling. Feeling bad is a feeling.
Remorse is a change in attitude that first requires one to take responsibility for his/her own actions and realize that he/she is in the wrong, followed by the realization that this said individual deserves the consequences of his/her own actions.
liefelijk 6y ago
Yeah, still not seeing how remorse doesn't qualify as a feeling. Remorse is a physical and emotional response to regret and shame. That emotional response is what qualifies it as a feeling.
Interestingly, failure to feel remorse is an important identifier for antisocial personality disorder. I suppose an argument could be made that all women show features of a personality disorder, but that would change the definition of disorder.
CAPIreland 6y ago
100% correct. Just to give an example: my ex cheated, then began seeing the guy. Her family knew what happens, and her grandmother (who's very close to her) disowned her, and text me saying that, being the person who knew my ex best in the world, she was disgusted by how little she genuinely felt about doing such a thing. She saw through her fake remorse.
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That's a good grandmother. Shame she had a degenerate grandchild.
Vithonil 6y ago
That grandmother sounds awesome :D
stickythestick87 6y ago
Sounds like she wants the D tbh, dirty old whore.
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stickythestick87 6y ago
Lads if you haven't got at least one grandma plate you're missing out
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Bad for your diet. They always bring candy.
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daffy_duck233 6y ago
So i tried to answer in such a way that the 'slut' stereotypical features should be maximized and lo and behold, i'm still not a slut.
banjew 6y ago
Technically, if she doesn't accept money in exchange for sex, she isn't a slut.
Vithonil 6y ago
same thing, same result. Absolutely ridiculous
VickVaseline 6y ago
New rule: there is no such thing as a slut!
WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
A positive response to "Have you ever sucked a dick while another guy way pronging you in the ass?" most likely would not qualify a girl as a slut!
melolzz 6y ago
Haha, that was also my first thought, i used the most "offensive" option to get a "You are a slut" answer from this quiz. But seems like it's not possible and it even encourages to keep that behaviour.
Raikkonen716 6y ago
Ah, 2018. The year ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ women are not accountable for their actions.
Tre_Walker 6y ago
I was about to post that response you get at the end of the quiz.
One of the questions is How many people have you had sex with? I answered 15+
The insanity after all those questions of telling girls:
"Of course you're not a slut! So you've kissed a couple of people."
Whut? After all those questions about lying and cheating and then to tell girls they just kissed a couple people?
Hamstering at its finest. Truth and facts mean nothing it only matters how she feels.
JaxHerer 6y ago
The good old they did it too so its okay.. Enjoy the decline.
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pridebrah 6y ago
The lamest mindset on the planet.
2comment 6y ago
If history teaches anything, it's that humans have herd mentality.
Praeda18 6y ago
We are social creatures with a sub-conscious understanding of ‘safety in numbers’.
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That's too nihlistic for the intentions of this post. You can say what you just said to anything and it probably wouldn't mean any more.
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I don't disagree, it's just a waist of everyone's time to be so abstract. There's plenty more to life outside your head lol
Reformed65 6y ago
That's the deal with this "stop slut-shaming me!" movement, they don't want to normalise or have you accept sluts, they want to abolish the term altogether. Why? Because they KNOW that nobody respects a slut- or I'm sorry, a female that had sexual intercourse with many men. They know no matter how much they normalise slutty behaviour and sluts themselves, that alpha men are going to laugh at them on the topic of marriage, they know only beta wimps will spend time with them and who wants those guys?
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SKRedPill 6y ago
A girl's desire is to have a beta serve her exclusively while her instincts are busy going after the hot gym trainer...
What post TRP me would do is to tease them good....
stealthdawg 6y ago
This is the same as how some women will have a dream about their SO doing something 'wrong' and then be mad at them in reality because they 'must be doing something that subconsciously provokes those thoughts.'
Werewolf35b 6y ago
Holy shit. Very insightful. I think your really on to something here. I've never heard this expressed elsewhere. It's another thing that's 100 reversed in our minds vs. thiers.
Reality materrs to us. Our actual actions. To them it's thier thought/feelings. What they actually did doesn't.
More evidence of thier irrationality imo.
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styrg 6y ago
I think it might be worthwhile to compare and contrast Aristotle's virtue ethics and Kantian ethics.
To oversimplify, the girls are closer to Aristotle's virtue ethics which says your character should embody virtue and that will lead to virtuous actions. Kant on the other hand suggests that the only way to truly know someone is obeying moral law is if the moral law runs against their personal inclinations, which could more closely support your stance. I think an argument could be made for each case, and neither is quite perfect.
Kant doesn't ever create a list of morals,unlike Aristotle, and suggests that morals can be deduced with correct reasoning. This makes it harder on someone who adheres to Kantian ethics to know what is moral. An argument could probably be made that objectifying women is morally wrong and despite our inclinations we should strive to avoid this.
I personally don't buy into "sins of thought" very much though so I think I might try to use some blend of Aristotle and Kant.
T. Someone who is dating a philosophy major and has to listen to them talk about it all the time. Thanks for giving me an interesting topic to discuss with her.
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This is interesting. If you think about religion at least Christianity it addresses both needs. It gives women the sense and feeling of virtue and for men it has rules and laws. I’m not trying to make a religious argument here. Just making the connection as to maybe why religion is so successful in our history as far as popularity
HornyVan 6y ago
Q: Have you ever cheated?
A: Yes, and I don't feel bad about it.
Result: Definitely not a slut!
Come again?
GloriousGardener 6y ago
Q: Do you consider yourself a slut?
A: Yes.
Result: Definitely not a slut!
lmao
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I answered the most extreme that I could on all ten questions, to see what would happen. And the final output was “You’re definitely not a slut!”
huh.
Saberinbed 6y ago
LOL i tried describing this one girl i uses to fuck with before. She cheated on her bf twice, me being the second. According to this, she isn’t a slut because she feels bad about it LMFAO.
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Metalageddon 6y ago
Pretty sure there's no way to achieve slut level by that test. Took it 3x to gauge just because I'm off today and curious.
Count me satisfied, but internet tests are always like this. If pew research releases something let me know, I'll pay attention to a gold standard.
Excellent example of the female narrative in action though.
IVIaskerade 6y ago
Lmao it gives you the same answer no matter what.
NotAThrowAway5678910 6y ago
I think this quiz was cleverly created by a Red pilled man. He allows young women who feel slutty to justify their behaviour when sleeping around, which is better for all of us if you think about it.
max_peenor 6y ago
Let's go hamster spotting? It is like this in a few of the questions.
Look closer. Ah, there's the little fucker. "Yes--feel" "No--thought". There is no post hoc thinking, only feeling. This is how they immunize themselves from responsibility. Before they did it, they may have thought about it, but after they did the context is converted so it's how they feel about something that happened to them.
Syngin9 6y ago
Its hilarious that no matter how bad your answers are, the girl still isn't one.
TunedtoPerfection 6y ago
it's on the website gurl.com how did you think it was gonna turn out.
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zyqkvx 6y ago
I answered the questions using the most horrible answers and I'm not a slut. Only question that wasn't the worst was the last one when it asked it I thought I was a slut. yes/I don't know/no. I answered I don't know.
Whitified 6y ago
As Dalrock puts it, today love has replaced marriage as the thing that purifies sex. Since "love" is really just feels, "yes, but I felt bad about it" also kinda feels like it purifies the sexual encounter.
Humanity used to have a better test: if she's not a virgin on her wedding night... SLUT
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People have no control over their actions. Choice is an illusion. The chemicals in your brain at this point in time have control over what you will do five seconds from now. Rewards and punishment are props in the play, the script was already written.
princeahole 6y ago
So I put in that my theoretical woman had slept with more than 15 men, given/received oral sex from more than 15 men, Talk to multiple people, but you know what, still not slut. lol.
fromthebottom 6y ago
This is fun. I’m definitely not a slut :)
chambertlo 6y ago
So, this is just a female exercise in “I want to do whatever I feel like doing, but I don’t want to be judged for it or face the consequences of my actions”. So instead of treating women like independent, flawed creatures, this article just serves to say, “No matter how shitty your behavior, it’s okay!” Fucking tragic. No wonder so many women are infected with STI’s.
Enigma221 6y ago
Yeah this is true. Women can't hold themselves accountable for what they do, always use some kind of excuse to get out of the truth.
pohlrich 6y ago
how ever i answer this quiz the result comes back not a slut.
and i think thats the point. its fixed. young impressionable women should not feel slut shammed. its better to make them feelz haappy short term than any moralistic guidence leading to a stable truely happy long term life.
iq8 6y ago
These quizes are supposed to get people to share them online thus resulting in more clicks to the website. No one will share that they are a slut but plenty will share that they aren't.
365reasons 6y ago
quiz was in 2014. wonder what had changed in the past four year!
nebder 6y ago
Why wouldn’t we want women to feel sexually empowered? It’s not the chaste gal that you go balls deep on the second date.
The people that latch on to this post are the ones jealous that women are not having validational sex with them.
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I love sluts. They are a lot of fun at parties.
I hate hypocrisy. Which is a big part of any slut's endgame.
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I think people are more angry about how people somehow glorify cheating.
Nothing wrong with a lot of casual sex but I'll be honest, i would never marry a party girl. I know some adults who married party girls and they all cheated on the guy.
IVIaskerade 6y ago
Because assuming you want to have kids at some point in the future instead of being a genetic failure, you want to find someone who isn't a slut.
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I think you're missing the bigger part of the post. You gotta see the forest for the trees.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 6y ago
I picked worst possible options and "you're definitely not a slut"
monadyne 6y ago
One of the links on the page is for an article called "How to get out cum stains"
If that's one of your major concerns and you click on that link, you might just be a slut.
HumanSockPuppet 6y ago
Sluts want their sluthood to feel like liberation. So feed them the lie they desire.
I just linked up with a tinder slut. She messages me telling me she loves to fuck, but she's never been with an older guy. I tell her I'll teach her everything she needs to know to really capitalize on her freedom while she's young. She tells me that's what she's always wanted - an experienced, open-minded older guy to teach her.
Now, she'll come over on command and be my personal escort, all for the low low price of a pretty lie.
Getting laid is easier now than ever before.
IVIaskerade 6y ago
Where's the option for "the only thing I chug harder than dicks is pumpkin spice latte"?
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
LMAO
Also there's no way to be a slut in this quiz
FinancierGuru 6y ago
Girls can't be sluts. Girls are either independently strong women or not.
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LOL @ some of these questions. This one doesn't even have an option for the full-on whore -- no option at all for "Yes, and no regrets!"
6) Have you ever hooked up with a friend's crush?
A. No way, that's so wrong!
B. Yes, and I felt really bad about it.
C. No, but I've thought about it.
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LOL, really. The only difference between the "full-on whore" as you see her and the average female is the full-on whore has the psychological guts to know herself.
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Oh, I didn't mean to imply there was any actual difference.
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Chaddeus_Rex 6y ago
Tbh, i like sluts. They're easy to bang and you don't need to put in that much work compared to a prude girl. Also, if you know shes a hoe, then you know not to relationshit her. I wish more girls were sluts and open about it. That would be great as I could get laid with minimal effort and then fuck off to do my own thing.
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"Relationshit" is my new favorite word.
uebermacht 6y ago
As you may noticed, all women are sluts.
It depends on which guy they have in front of.
DayGameChirality 6y ago
This. I don't get slut shaming on this sub. Don't people enjoy sluts? Do they rather work for sex, put up with bullshit such as LMR, ASD and dishonesty, the whole act how prude the girl is?
RedwallAllratuRatbar 6y ago
I find virgins much easier to bang
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askmrcia 6y ago
Mgtows will fight? They don't care, I thought that was the entire point of them
2comment 6y ago
Two types of self-described MGTOWs. Red pill ones tured of spinning plates onto something new. And embittered blue pill idealists that don't get any and call it quits while shouting sour grapes.
KekistanRefugee 6y ago
I think MGTOW is mostly guys that got burned in a marriage, vowing to never marry again. I can’t fault the guys tbh.
askmrcia 6y ago
The latter you mentioned isnt mgtow, its incels.
CalfReddit 6y ago
Seems like lots of them are incels
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But they do identify as MTGOW.
askmrcia 6y ago
That's no different then the high schoolers here who say they are redpill but still get oneitis, still stuck in the anger phase or make fake field reports.
Just because they call themselves redpill doesn't mean they are.
newName543456 6y ago
Such quiz for guy would either call him a pathetic virgin or disgusting manwhore with nothing in between.
Morphs_ 6y ago
This extremely poor quiz does not really deserve its own thread.
Didiathon 6y ago
The quiz was more of a jumping off point. I don’t particularly like giving them the traffic, but I think it’s useful to see stuff like this in the wild, even if it’s ultimately just trashy clickbait.
improved_living 6y ago
Right? I gave up on question 4 because half the questions didn't even have an answer I fit into.
Wilhelm2nd 6y ago
Oh boy, what a vagina thread this has become ..
TheMythof_Feminism 6y ago
That is absolutely correct.
Following that logic, I never find the excuse "Yeah well I was drunk" to be valid, ever. This includes women that cheat but "I was drunk so it's not my fault", yeah? and how did you get to be alone, drinking with another guy, hmmm?
Personal responsibility is the key here.
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Women slut shame way more than men. So pleaee handle this amongst yourselves.