(Taken from a comment I just posted on another thread)
Now obviously the title quote isn't entirely true but it's still amazing how the exact same behaviors from two different men can mean two totally different things, with the only real difference being how attractive the man is to her.
She only considers it to be sexual harassment if she isn't attracted to him. Otherwise it's just 'normal, forward assertive sexy behavior'
It kind of reminds me of this experiment(The 'life of 10/10 male' tinder experiment) where a guy used the pictures of a 6'3 ripped model in his tinder bio and pretty much said whatever he wanted to these girls with near unanimous positive reception (such as "I wanna rip that dress off and fuck you"), whereas if the guy were ugly (forgetting that they wouldn't have matched on Tinder in the first place), such forward messages would definitely be considered sexual harassment by these women.
Example:
Guy: Can I sit on your face so I can eat my way to your heart?
Girl: What are you doing tongiht?
Guy: Jerking off to your pics
Girl: Let's hang
Guy: #?
Girl: [her number]
This would NEVER work if the girl wasn't swooning over the guy. Hell, he'd probably get reported somehow or at the very least have the convo screenshot and put on the internet either to embarrass him or as a 'warning' to other girls.
There's also this one another one too that another guy did - he used a picture of a different attractive guy and in his bio 'admitted' to being a sex offender. he would bring up that he is a sex offender/molested a kid and every single girl was like "oh well, everyone makes mistakes. Wanna fuck? :)" [paraphrasing]
Example:
Girl: Hey, every criminal has the chance to be forgiven, but then again there's something very attractive about a bad boy
Guy: I think I'd rather be bad than forgiven ;)
Girl: The question is, how bad does this bad boy get. And does this bad boy need a naughty girl to keep him bad.
This one is particularly.. fucked, because we aren't talking 'bad boy' like he rides a motorcycle and punches people out for fun, 'bad boy' in this context literally refers to his criminal behavior as a pedophile, which apparently doesn't bother her one bit. I'm speechless, but not surprised.
Lessons Learned
- 90% of the time, and especially in the context of a conversation, the only difference between what creeps her out and what makes her want to fuck you is whether or not she finds you attractive.
VisibleIngenuity 6y ago
I've been thinking this for a while. My female friends complain about male attention and it's usually because they don't find the male attractive. Meanwhile, I'm def not a hot girl but I would be flattered it any man approached me. Attractive women grow up with this idea that they own the world and they take male attention for granted, while for someone like me it's a depleting resource. Makes me tick.
cpk8080 6y ago
Right, if Christian Grey were a fat, unattractive, broke hobo He'd be considered a sexual predator and would probably be in prison.
studentsensei 6y ago
I thought everyone knew this?
When I was in high school there was a nerdy chick that I used to hug all the time but it was deemed "harassment" by the teacher because I wouldn't stop hugging her even after the girl would tell me to stop.
I kept doing this every day until the teacher threatened to send me to the principle's office so like a good boy I stopped.
The next day after I didn't give the nerdy girl my patented "harassment" hug she came to me and said somberly "where's my favorite hug?"
thecorgisleeps 6y ago
I did an experiment of my own back in 2014, i pretended to be a gay guy and became an object for a lot of girls, i was their status symbol, they ignored me until they heard im gay so they could be friends with a gay guy, women only want a guy if hes useful to her. Theyd even say things like "omg youre so cute id date you if you weren't gay" and they'd actually want me at some points, at this time i was pissed because i knew they would never ever even look at me if they knew i wasnt gay, they only wanted me because they thought they couldn't have me.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Would they state differently if you told them you were bi?
thecorgisleeps 6y ago
No one cared about bi people unless the bi guy actively had a boyfriend.
BigDaddy101-101- 6y ago
That’s why we have to rape them! They shouldn’t have the right to say that kind of stuff
FeelTheBernieSanderz 6y ago
Looks red-pill is a hard one to swallow.
Even blue-pillers are consciously aware of this, the very common meme:
Be attractive
Really, it's that simple.
Human
TheseNthose 6y ago
Also when it comes to the experiment you cite. The guy doesn't show the negative reactions to the what he says on tinder. Do the experiment yourself. You'll be told to fuck off even while using hot guy pics. There's also a bit of a caveat that what he's saying is so ridiculous that nobody would take what he says seriously.
and ontop of it all we're talking about Tinder here. All of these apps are just a modern digital magazine. Something where someone can skim through the pages while they are bored with their real life sitting in a doctor's office peer at some eye candy, whether it's guns, cars, hot chicks, or some hot studs and get a tiny amount of entertainment.
Except with these apps we are the product. We're flipped around and sold back to us. It's pretty fucked up if you think about it especially when you understand that these companies are reaping profits when they create nothing and they use each individuals likeness. Like a model in a magazine who doesnt get paid.
so just like a magazine everything we're attracted to is amplified and spread all over the pages or else the magazine doesnt make money.
If anything i think this is just another example of how people's perceptions of reality is being distorted by social media.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
You and so many others confuse "accept" with "except", or vice-versa. You are the second or third one on this forum alone.
Anyway, I agree, I wish I could see the negative reactions he got; he's bound to have received some. Also, on the last page of that article, the author tries to discredit the experimenter.
TheseNthose 6y ago
Well of course. Isn't sexual harassment unwanted sexual behavior or advances? Sex is already selective and apart of that comes down to physical appearance.
I think a weirder paradox is two guys say the same joke normal guy even says it better but nobody laughs. better looking says it but worse and it's somehow funny.
Or quiet guy is creepy but hot quiet guy is just mysterious. lol
PhoenixRedFire 6y ago
In addition to what Super_Solver said about the halo effect, smiling and laughter are signs of submission. Obviously, people submit to better looking people more often all else being equal thus the inequity you see when people react to jokes is to be expected.
Super_Solver 6y ago
It’s the halo/horns effect, where unattractive people are considered worse overall, including morally, and vice versa.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
It makes Beauty and the Beast a VERY unrealistic story.
officeManipulator 6y ago
The application of this statement is far and wide, and most of us men feel this, especially in the office.
In life, it Pays to be attractive in your environment, and good thing for men, attractive is something you can work on, rather than something you must have as a birthright (like "Talent").
So what should you do? Here are some few tips to overcome this phenomenon:
Get ripped! This pays universally.
I strongly suggest you find a girl outside the office - never shit where you eat. If you think you like her because she has blonde hair and tight skirt (for example), just hop on to the office next door. Many other women dress like that too.
What NOT to do:
Don't be in the same room with a woman colleague alone. Make sure there are other MALE witnesses.
No small talk with women colleagues (women friends are Okay).
Never ever compliment your woman colleague on what she wears. The repercussion ranges from putting yourself at the mercy of her power to potentially losing your job.
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Wrong. don't even fuck her outside of the office. Just don't fuck her period. You're giving her an ace that she can put up her sleeve and play whenever she pleases. Like when she doesn't favor you anymore, she'll make up a reason to fle that report and it'll have to do with the fact the you fucked her. Yeah, it was outside the office but that ain't gonna stop HR and the court of public opinion will it? Especially since whatever comes out of a bitches mouth is the truth these days....
rigbed 6y ago
Bang some older women who can be advocates for you
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mindset_warrior 6y ago
Completely agree with this, but the thing that's different in a real-life scenario than on Tinder is that attraction can be built up regardless of how you look. That same attraction can be lost as well. But yea seriously, it's only harassment if she finds you unattractive.
SKRedPill 6y ago
A woman attracted to you is a completely different creature from one that is not.
And that's why I don't take articles in the media seriously - they're written in a repulsive emotional state mainly to beta men.
I saw an analogue with my dog. Once he befriends you, he's a totally different creature than what he is to a stranger. (But your dog never stops loving you - but your girl can fall out of love with you for good).
jackandjill22 6y ago
I take a short cut through an alleyway every day to work. I'm attractive enough that women; complete strangers to me, walking through empty lots & back alleys stop to compliment me on "how pretty my ___ is".
Dudes in a similar scenario would be met with rushing to her car & locking doors/car alarm set.
theDukesofSwagger 6y ago
Mans best friend for a reason.
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Winston_The_Ogre 6y ago
Sister in law is on a plane frim India, guy next to her puts his hand under her blanket and starts rubbing her leg. She gets up, raises hell, starts crying. Shes telling me the story then blurts out, "if only he was attractive!"
Reformed65 6y ago
"I mean it wouldn't have been as bad if he was good looking!"
"What?"
"What?"
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I had a HR lady I dated tell me that a guy from her work got sacked for pretty much that reason.. Flirty 20 something in the office carries on.. Ugly guy likes her, tells her he thinks she is ♨.. Flirty girl reports him.. He gets sacked.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Makes me hate life in general.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
I know I'm kind of playing Devil's Advocate here but Tinder is the bottom of the barrel in terms of girls with good character
yomo86 6y ago
That is not the point here. Tinder is raw - looks-only, zero invest except for yourself.
Look, you can refine your game to the point of perfection and most guys here hamster their fatty body away by saying they have more game. But it won't beat a 7(+)/10 looks. This is why lifting and self-improvement is so mantraic (sic?) on TRP. Not only will you look well and feel better you also get more female attention without investing anything altruistically in the female sex. Being top-notch carries built-in dread and abundance.
[deleted] 6y ago
What about shit face? Surgeries. What about narrow shoulders? Actual frame not 'the frame'? You can only build so much deltoid muscles. Also muscle asertions are genetical and aesthetically speaking they make a huge difference.
yomo86 6y ago
Valid point. Facial or bodily faults, which are other than major ie missing leg, 4 ft height, are not really percieved as detrimental by females. This male projection has been disproven. Just google it. Facial scars ie battle-scars-look-alikes do even improve your looks in the female eye.
For your bodily frame: when it is hard for you to gain muscles than it is also hard for you to gain fat and vice versa. Male have a higher spectrum of displaying something females want. Money (provisioning), scars (protection), muscles (genetics). Hence the AF/BB dichotomy as very few men can deliver it all. Females attractivenes on the other hand is all about looks because looks serve universally as a fertility and genetic markers.
OneInAZillion 6y ago
I agree, but it doesn't mean that those girls are exempt from the rules of AWALT
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
What? If anything Tinder girls are the greatest advocates for it
OneInAZillion 6y ago
Well then it doesn't mean that classier girls are exempt from the rules of AWALT or that they're that much different on a base level than the girls on tinder.
deville05 6y ago
Nope. Even in the 60s and 70s people found technological ways to meet each other. Going out to bars is the least productive or preferred way of hooking up statistically and historically. I watched some documentary on how the need to sex changed technology and how technology changed how we met each other. There is no era where people people predominantly went out to bars to get laid. I admit that doing so improves your social anxiety by teaching you to brush off rejection but for most people it's not the most efficient way to meet people. People have always preferred a more comfortable way to get through the first round of courtship than cold approaches
blister333 6y ago
Interesting. I take it day game is more comfortable than going to a bar. At a bar,imo, it’s so forced and expected that you’re facing an uphill battle.
deville05 6y ago
Well technically in day game and night game it's only the environment that changes but conceptually it's the same. Sure night is also instinctively a mare dangerous time and coupled with alcohol, women would be a little more apprehensive.
But essentially it's still a stranger cold approaching. According to the documentary, people find that strange and hence technology found new way for people to put something about themselves out there and be rejected for others to vet them instinctively and be prepared for them or reject in less hurtful way. I guess basically it's.. people don't wanna be caught off guard out of nowhere
rainbowstalin1234 6y ago
thing is there are a LOT of girls that ARE on tinder that you wouldnt think were bottom of the barrel, if you talked to them on the street. So your point about tinder is moot when it comes to female behavior.
Im not saying street game is pointless (this is for all you "ackshualy" guys out there) Im saying that the "point" that tinder. . no, online dating is "bottom of the barrel" doesn't really address what op is talking about. and is certain a comment used to discredit op instead.
not really cool, but you do you.
in fact, MOST women are "bottom of the barrel" what women really ISNT a loser?
What woman out there is "top of the barrel?" is it looks? because there are a LOT of hot women on tinder, just like street or night game
How many women look good AND are willing to cook and clean for their man???
Really, this doesn't mean anything. It's disingenuous at best, and unnecessarily confrontational at worst.
The only things that I could think of to properly chastise op for would be
"this is normal and doesn't need to be repeated ad nauseum"
"keep lifting, and keep eating right to get your body fat% low enough plus a professional photographer and you can look just as good or even better than the model guy"
Or
"if you're lifting and improving your smv, there's nothing to worry about, instead of spending time talking about women doing this, become the man that women want to fuck, and enjoy your life in the process."
but that wasn't said.
In the future, you gotta be more constructive than your comment, it only fills up the sub with trash it doesn't need. The mods are already working hard enough to take out the trash on a daily basis, stop adding to it.
miller211 6y ago
You're right, most people are at the bottom of the barrel
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TheAC997 6y ago
Only group that comes to mind are the religious ones that pull off the sexy librarian thing.
hennyhendrix 6y ago
Haha. Church girls are the biggest whores my man.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Only counterfeit "Christian" churches where a priest will "forgive" you for $20.
True Christianity has no priests; only God Himself can forgive you, and He KNOWS when your request for forgiveness is sincere.
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Women don't have a problem with men cat-calling, wolf whistling, pulling their skirts, teasing, stalking or cold calling, they have a problem with undesirable men doing this to them. They could be completely okay if the man they want to be with does it. Therefore, women don't have a problem with the act itself but with who is doing it.
Lots of women allow men toxically dominate them and use them for their own selfish needs and they will allow this in the name of 'I am trying to change him into a better human being'.
Women get their status fixed by what kind of men have the confidence to approach her for anything. The loser guy who everyone loathes and detests because of his lifestyle is undesirable by default because she gets ashamed and feels cheap that even he thinks he has a chance. Although, the one who everyone looks up to and is also the major reason for the existence of the very group is desirable because that sets her as the alpha female of the group. She is now highest in the precedence of importance and power among all the women in that group. If the group expands and other better men come in, she will surely climb the ladder without hesitation.
Every women wants to have the same status as the alpha male of the group- having access or at least a participation in decision making, first receiver of any resourceful thing or the very right to get everyone's attention to be heard and this can only be achieved by getting coupled with the alpha of the group.
[deleted] 6y ago
I used to say "it's only creepy if your ugly" back when I was 15 and blue as hell, I also told a girl to show me her underwear if she wanted to talk to me and she did. There were a lot more things I got away with because I'm not deformed which is an unfortunate reality. But I see it as my evolutionary advantage. Sometimes you you have to use the tools you got.
Orbiter45 6y ago
But why does he think he has a chance? Its likely he picked up an IOI, and his body language failed a shit test before he even talked to her.
Girls unwittingly play the alpha/beta game. They use seductive body language to bring men in, the denigrate them into beta slaves. Its a status/resources gathering move.
Thats where the beta makes his mistake, he looses frame, and excepts his role as a protector/provider of women.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
What's that? I don't recall.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yes. True. I just didn't include that in the comment because it was specifically on why the women have a problem with undesirable men approaching and attempting. Thanks for submitting it.
AloofusMaximus 6y ago
If you do any kind of people watching, you'll notice most men are absolutely oblivious to obvious disinterest. Men are generally bad about reading body language (both good and bad). I don't think most women are throwing IOIs at random dudes just to test them. Rather it's random dude misreading (if he's even trying) or just brute forcing it.
Orbiter45 6y ago
From an evolutionary perspective, it doesn't make since that one gender would develop such an intricate body language, that the other didn't get the jist of. Especially when we are talking about sex.
http://bodylanguageproject.com/articles/part-iv-women-use-sexual-courtship-signals-to-manipulate-men-womens-later-sexual-signals-affects-outcome-of-courtship-not-early-signals-says-research/
That will support my initial statement. Part of the problem, is the mixed signals. You pick something up, but the women has maintained an exit strategy. And you fall for it. Shit test failed.
But that doesn't mean ignore the consequences and bum rush the girl. The saying "Don't stick your dick in crazy," is something to remember. Just a week ago, I witnessed a guy getting hit by his ex-old lady driving an SUV, ripped him a second set of lips right under his nose.
ozenmacher 6y ago
The classic, "Be attractive, don't be unattractive." And as always, watch what women do, not what they say. They will ALWAYS say they want Mr. Nice Guy, but we all know they want the edgy, fun, exciting, dangerous hot guy that gives them the tingles. We saw all this in action when #METOO blew up. All the beta males went down hard (Lauer, Franken, Aziz Ansari), but you never saw any alpha male celebs get nailed for anything. When they rarely do, it is because a gold digger sees the potential for a lot of $$$$.
SKRedPill 6y ago
It reminds me of a woman on quora who wrote so much about 'gender stereotypes' and it's ok (with pics included) for a man to wear lipstick and makeup and for women to be masculine these are all socially conditioned rules (god, how dumb can someone be if they can't distinguish between biology and society). She promptly insulted anyone who didn't agree with her in the comments.
And then somewhere else in her history she shared a photo of her with her boyfriend -- guess what? AWALT...
Quora's very quickly turning into an ideal feminine primary space.
Men failed epically when they mistook emotional diarrhea for logical wisdom. I mean, all those men talking about "losing viriginity"... <sneeze>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6piaWOlP4Q
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God quora sucks. It’s the bottom of the internet barrel.
Seagram7 6y ago
The Salem Which trials always fascinated me. I read an essay for one theory on why the accusations lost steam and fizzled out at the end was the girls went from accusing basically the unpopular, losers and nobodies to the somebodies in the colony.
The guy that works on the sabbath, the homeless beggar, the black slave: believe the victim and protect these snowflakes from the evils of witchcraft and lets torture and burn them. The governor's wife: Hold on, Hold on, Hold on, lets stop this insanity and let's think this out. She was the last to be accused and surprisingly, there were no more executions after her accusation.
I'm waiting with popcorn ready when they finally accuse a real somebody in our modern society; someone that everyone will go "Come On! Really!
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
The tragic irony; the accusers themselves were the real witches.
[deleted] 6y ago
Lifting does not change your face.
OneInAZillion 6y ago
Therefore, lifting is pointless.
Moral of the story - don't waste your time lifting.
/s
[deleted] 6y ago
Am I wrong? Get a plastic surgery.
SirKolbath 6y ago
It's literally written right into the disciplinary code of almost all companies.
"Sexual Harassment is defined as unwanted requests for dates, contact, or other behavior..."
The only thing that has ever determined sexual harassment is whether she's attracted to you. And if she's harassing you, have fun getting anything done about that.
True story: friend of mine was suspended from school for three days our senior year (three weeks before graduation). A single girl was pissed because he'd pretty much ignored her all year got three of her friends together to claim he'd been harassing them. Several of us tried to speak on his behalf... No one listened. He was suspended.
Day two of his suspension that same girl grabbed my dick in the hallway and smirked at me. I marched directly into the assistant principal's office and made a complaint. Bald fuck looked right at me and said, "You're a guy. Get out of my office."
That was the day I realized we were fucked, gents.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
And women wonder why guys like me are afraid to ask them out. One close call to jail was enough for me.
Betterthanuatlife 6y ago
No wonder why so many cucks consider "asking a woman out for a drink" as sexual harassment
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[deleted] 6y ago
Can't believe this happened, too convenient for TRP. But the part about the suspension shows that hey learn to excercise their psychotic wants through daddy government early by doing it through the school.
[deleted] 6y ago
I still don’t understand what sexual harassment is legally.
Sexually touch someone on the street without consent = a crime called sexual assault that you can go to jail for.
Sexually touch someone at work without consent = a crime called sexual assault that you can go to jail for.
Sexual assault is a crime with a clear legal definition and it’s a crime no matter where you do it.
Give “unwanted” sexual attention on the street = no legal action.
Give “unwanted” sexual attention at work = sexual harassment... not a crime but your company can be sued for sexual harassment.
So wtf is sexual harassment? It’s clearly not a crime. The police can’t arrest you for it. If you give someone unwanted sexual attention on the street there’s no legal recourse. Yet the moment I step inside a workplace, now this sexual harassment thing (that’s not a crime) is somehow in play. So what the hell is sexual harassment.
SirKolbath 6y ago
Welcome to the desert of the real.
SKRedPill 6y ago
Sexual harassment is defined as anything sexual when she's not attracted to you... plain and simple.
It is also defined as something that was consensual yesterday but which can become harassment tomorrow if her ASD kicks in.
You can in fact be arrested even for ignoring or rejecting her, because she got offended and didn't have the honor of rejecting you.
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Rick_OShay1 6y ago
But asking her out on a date isn't sexual; unless it's her own dirty mind projecting, as she is a slut inside.
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I get that. But what is it from a legal perspective? It’s this weird non-crime that you can be sued for.... but only at work. It’s just a bizarre concept. I think it shouldn’t exist.
tolerantman 6y ago
lmao, if he said "You're a guy. Get out of my office." to me I would punch him in the face in that exact moment.
How do you people let shit like this happens and you simply let it pass? You people are too patient sometimes.
Oh, I would smash the bitch grabbing my dick too, equal rights.
SirKolbath 6y ago
Sure you would, tough guy. And you'd go to jail for assault.
Shut up.
Well, I could explain that I was just shy of my 18th birthday and a high school student, but since you're clearly in middle school I don't think the point would be made.
Of course you would. Scarcity mindset would probably have you smashing anything. Or at least trying desperately to do so.
tolerantman 6y ago
Not everyone is a little bitch like you, grow a pair and maybe people will stop treating you like a bitch.
These types of situations are even alien to me (considering they are not just made up bullshit) it's like people can smell the bitch in you and do shit to your face because they know you will let it pass, shit like this never happen to me, people can tell.
SirKolbath 6y ago
Nice frame, son.
Yep. I totally believe that you're such an alpha people can smell it on you. Why, I bet people cross the street just to touch the hem of your garment. How do you manage to walk through the hail of moistened panties being flung at you?
Later, tater.
tolerantman 6y ago
I don't care about what you believe, keep thinking everyone is a bitch like you are.
halfback910 6y ago
Also only if you're male. There was a woman at my previous job who got away with all sorts of ridiculous behavior. She was a shitty person. Sure, she sexually harassed guys who worked in the warehouse who were unfortunate enough to need to come into the office. Management's response was to tell them to just keep separate. If it ever happened again obviously it waa BOTH their faults because they BOTH weren't trying hard enough to keep separate.
She threw water on a guy. Management's response? Make her pay for the dry cleaning, tell her to be more careful.
She literally attacked a chick. Pulled her fucking hair out. Like a clump of it. Management's response? You girls need to talk this out.
She eventually quit because someone (or more likely someones, everyone despised her) were engaging in passive aggressive street justice.
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trp_nofap_rewire2018 6y ago
Classic example of AWALT and Halo Effect.
A model going full creep mode = tingles and wet pussy
Regular dude doing the same = weirdo
Ugly dude = insta call 911
Nothing new here, but an important reminder. The key point I can extract from this is that it’s lame to have it too easy. There’s no thrill, no challenge. It would be awesome to slay pussy with a single statement until it became bland and boring. This guy simply hit the genetics jackpot and had to make zero effort to fuck beautiful women during his whole life.
We are men. We are programmed to work hard, build stuff, overcome challenges, take a few hits from life and keep moving on. This male model (and others too) is the masculine version of any above-average woman because looks opens a thousand doors of opportunities and aids you in getting away with pretty much anything.
I ain’t hating the guy, just stating the truth. We should be grateful that we have the opportunity to work hard to conquer pussy/money/social proof, that’s what makes the journey fun.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Do you think the Halo and Mass Effect universes could successfully merge/crossover?
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Serious question, can a short guy with average face become a player?
Dawnguards 6y ago
No... there was one video where women said a short guy had a chance on a date only if other guys were murderers. So a short guy is being compared to criminals. Source in in youtube. Cant recall the title but it was about that.
DatsFoRealDoe 6y ago
Haha, that's what they say. Not what they mean.
[deleted] 6y ago
So limb lengthening is the only solution.
FreshDumbledoreMC 6y ago
I mean if an, I your eyes ugly girls, trys to go for you, then you are nitpicky. Can't you accept that every human being does this? I bet you would feel harassed too if that ugly smelly girl won't stop for you.
hailhailhailandkill 6y ago
It's a matter of who, not what.
Image is god. How you are seen determines what you see.
PussyMcGrabbins 6y ago
There is no confusion to be had here, women validate themselves through men.
When someone unattractive desired them, they feel its because they attract undesirable people. They can’t separate themselves from the person the way men do. Therefore, hot guy wants to fuck me because I’m so incredible quickly becomes there must be something wrong with him because I don’t attract that kind of guy.
Projection and denial of responsibility are the calling cards of the modern woman.
Rommel0502 6y ago
This one is a no brainer.
Your SMV > her SMV. Your advances are hot.
Her SMV > your SMV. Your advances make you a creep.
Its not the advances, its the guy doing it. Hypergamy at its finest.
ImpressiveDig 6y ago
I'd like to add that the SMV's are all inflated for women thanks to these apps like Tinder and beta's orbiting around 3's and 4's making them think they are 8's and above.
She could be a 3 but acts like a 8 and anyone who is realistically on her level, they get rejected or labeled a creep, or worse, cry SA/rape.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
There is a meme picture that just this; a fat guy covered in zits and excess unkempt hair, vs. a wavy haired stud.
lehappyjuice 6y ago
Well well well seems some blackpill truth is being leaked to the fantasy land of redpill.
Glad to see it
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U won't get laid on tinder if u are sub7 male
zhantoo 6y ago
Would it be any different if the genders where reversed? And isn't this "research" biased, by only looking at the people who were matching?
When your test subjects aren't random nor evenly spread out you might mistake course for correlation.
What happened to all the girls who disliked due to the pedophile thing being a no go? All the matches already accepted this.
FestiveSlaad 6y ago
I’ve been saying this for MONTHS
Marino4K 6y ago
Even with AWALT, I’m almost speechless at the pedophile part.
warthundersfw 6y ago
I lmfao but I’m attractive. I’m going to copy it for lulz
[deleted] 6y ago
That killed me. That's full on Babylonian-tier degeneracy.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
What keeps me sane is knowing that this sort of behavior was prophesied for the ending-days.
chambertlo 6y ago
I've been saying this for years; if you are a bridge troll looking fuck, it's not harassment. Women don't give a shit when a man they find attractive does it.
Neobabylon 6y ago
Well, tbh, if you were knocked down and cowgirled by a super attractive women, you would react different as if the women were post 70 and ugly.
I think you cant blame em for that. Also.
askmrcia 6y ago
Not true but I get the point you're trying to make. If a fatty or ugly chick approach me, I'm not sprinting to the police department or security to claim sexual harassment.
In fact it wouldn't even cross my mind too.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Dude, you abused the term. A female has to be sexually attractive to qualify for the label, "chick".
Ugly is a hag.
Fat is a whale.
Old is a crone.
tempolaca 6y ago
Well it's written right into the so called "Code of conduct" so many SJW are pushing down the throats of every institution they can. They define harassment as unwanted approaches. The key word here is "unwanted". Apart from the totally subjective definition purposefully made so basically it's harassment if the girls say it is, it's directed to ugly, low rank and beta men. Alpha approaches are never unwanted.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Girl grabs guy's crotch and nobody bats an eye.
Guy friendly-taps a girl's shoulder and people lose their minds.
Ironically, the people losing their minds are the same people who call God's standards of sexual morality "outdated".
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apatel215 6y ago
Its crazy how during my unattractive days i believed this and was upset over it cuz of my lack of success as well as being BP af but now that i am attractive, this still remains true and it still lowkey bugs me but i just don't have to worry about it as much as before
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How did you improve yourself?
apatel215 6y ago
focusing/taking care of myself. After graduating college and landing a full-time job i immediately signed up to a gym (literally after my first day of work). started to maintain my diet more and am forever learning in both aspects. started reading more. etc... At this point I'm not exactly sure my body fat % but i know I'm progressively getting to where i wanna be
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What is your height and weight?
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the_real_lunch_box 6y ago
there is a very good series of blogs on the rational male about this 1st one is here: here
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Kurush559 6y ago
You're right. It's normal. The issue is CRIMINALISING the approach; rather than a man showing interest and getting rejected, its sexual harassment. The issue isn't that men get rejected, it's that it's becoming borderline illegal to approach in the first place.
tickledpic 6y ago
I dont live in usa, maybe its completely different there, but i doubt it. It has never ever gotten close to "you are sexually harrasing me" and i'm quite bold.
I've gotten my fair share of you're a pig, womanazer, disrespecting, only want sex etc. Never it has been like I'm seriously going to call police. I just can't see how you can get there without actually creeping her out and making her feel physically unsafe.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
I barely dodged an arrest thanks to an evil girl disguised as an angel.
Matacks607 6y ago
You're incorrect. most guys would gently reject a women they weren't interested in. Fewer women are decent enough to do this, although some will.
tickledpic 6y ago
You are failing to imagine having to rejected creepy, pushy guys left and right, everyday for most of your life. It's a response to the enviroment!
Matacks607 6y ago
That's sounds like something a women would imagine happening to her. It's also unlikely.
tickledpic 6y ago
Ever been in a bar? Pay attention to how much rejection top females lash out before some guy gets trough.
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lemonman456 6y ago
Lol are you serious? Anytime a hot pedophile teacher comes out, men every where say how lucky that boy was.
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Ibanezguitarrocks 6y ago
I'll agree it's not the same but I also wouldn't mistake sexual desire in a boy meaning he can't be taken advantage of. Young men have no concept of the consequences of sex, such as unwanted pregnancy and STDs.
Young girls also get horny but they're passive in the mating game so it often isn't out in the open. I've come across my fair share of jail bate and these girls will absolutely fuck older men for pleasure. However, they're more concerned about their reputation if word got out that they were fucking a teacher.
Obviously it's the complete opposite for boys.
blacklightsleaze 6y ago
I've done this experiment by myself and its an eye opener. Most ridiculous part is when I got matched with same girls on my real and fake account and was running almost exactly the same game on them. You can guess what happened, my real account got just ignored while the fake one succeeded with the conversation. And when somebody is telling me to up my game I know they are bullshitting me, because with the f fake account I was able to make bunch of girls cum while telling them what I will do to them when we meet. And its funny when they start acting all needy when I ignore them, basically they act like beta orbiters. While with my real account I get ignored or unmatched when I run more aggressive game on them. And yea I am low bf and lift, abs and shit.
And I am not complaining, I am just telling it what it is. After all its not that bad and I am able to fuck average girls and sometimes very rarely above average. But honestly never fucked the real hot ones.
The most important thing I learned from this experiment is fuck close as soon as possible or next. If nothing happen on the end of second date there is huge chance nothing will happen on the third. And overall she is bullshitting and losing your time. Because when Chad comes he will fuck her on the first date. And if you have Chad friends you probably already know that.
rigbed 6y ago
You need photos of yourself that look like porn. You can’t look average at all. Alternatively you need more sexually suggestive real photos. Guys with face tattoos are considered hot.
mcr00sterdota 6y ago
Not too attractive for employers though.
blacklightsleaze 6y ago
"And yea I am low bf and lift, abs and shit." In my profile I have shirtless pictures hiking in the mountain. No tattoos.
One of the pictures I used on my fake profile was shirtless bathroom mirror selfie(which is considered lame). But it worked, because I took it from some insta model. Again no tattoos.
askmrcia 6y ago
I'm glad you typed all this out because I literally did the exact same experiment with the exact same results.
I too have low body fat, abs and pics of me being social and I still get shit on when it comes to dating. Now I do get laid every now and then, but I'd be lying if I said it doesn't take a shit ton of work.
When I created a fake profile I basically just typed "when are you down to hookup" by the second message.
It was that easy. It's just how the game is.
rigbed 6y ago
What do your faces look like that you have abs and can’t get matches?
Granted, I’ve seen how women go through tinder and well, it’s really easy to have an unphotogenic face. If you’re using model photos you’re using naturally photogenic faces
askmrcia 6y ago
I'll pm you. My face is cool. I get matches and stuff. It's just I can't talk to them like i could with a fake profile.
I have to say let's hangout or meetup for drinks as opposed to saying what time you Trying to hookup. Or "we fuckin tonight or nah?"
rigbed 6y ago
Send me the fake photos too
tempolaca 6y ago
Have you tried being more direct in your real account?
askmrcia 6y ago
Of course, just not in a complete asshole way like I was with the fake account.
And when I did try the complete asshole way I got ignored or blocked
blacklightsleaze 6y ago
Bro at one point I got angry and stopped giving a fuck and started typing all kinds of bullshit, ran the same game on both accounts and female brain work on two different modes while perceiving good looking men vs average.
With Chadish account I can type most retarded bullshit opener like "nice legs, when they open" and there is positive response or at least some kind of response. But with my real account I get ignored/unmatched in 80% of the cases. Left with only 20% success with direct approach, usually from average girls.
Another example as you said 'lets hang out/fuck" with Chad profile and they agree, but with my profile I get shit tested with "lets get to know each other first", "forget, we are not having sex" and bunch of bullshit like that.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Only the fat and the old give my profile any attention. The site even offers me discounts, while ignoring my reasonable advice.
tempolaca 6y ago
Tinder is about looks. What do you expect. I'm a short,balding, average looks man. I know I don't have a chance on tinder. In real life, however, next to the 90% of the neanderthals out there that barely can put two correct words in a sentence, I smash.
LiveAFTSOV 6y ago
I feel like this post is blackpill/incel in disguise.
AdviceCentral 6y ago
Well duh... I hate it when ugly bitches feel on me too.
Tousen71 6y ago
Yeah I DEFINITELY fuck where I eat. 1/3 of all relationships start in the workplace. It just comes with the territory. The key is to keep things honest from the get go and NEVER show affection in public. My rule of thumb is your coworkers can think what they want, it’s when they KNOW (you kissed her or held hands in public) that you fucked up.
That public exposure is often what’ll fuck a girls head up after it ends.
That fallout can be radioactive OR prove your desirability with other females in the office.
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So how's the mgm't prospects at burger king these days?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TokB\-6JBSro