Edit:
I wanted to put this edit at the top because of it's importance.
I want to thank all of you for the support, but most of all I want to thank you for your ruthlessness. No holding back. No coddling. Calling my shit out so I can fucking fix it.
I was at my peak redpill when I met her(I was literally reading The Rational Male when we met) and after this i'll be swinging right the fuck back.
All comments were great and there was so much supportive ones I can't thank you guys enough.
But my personal favorite is from DeGENZerate just the trauma I needed to make sure I don't fuck up again.
Original Post:
This and girl and I had been dating for 3 1/2 years.
We meet in the summer of 2015 backpacking China, she was American and I Brazilian.
I knew I wanted to go to school in the US so we did a year of long distance and after that, I went to college in the US and she followed me to my school.
We semi-lived together my sophomore year, and fully lived together my first-semester junior year(last semester). She's always been a super sweet and nice girl who everyone that meets her says she a little angel.
She's always been into traveling and I've been fortunate enough to provide her with it. Trips to Cancun, Venice, skiing in Wyoming, and many throughout my home country of Brazil.
So mid last semester she tells me she wants to this semester abroad in Hong Kong. I am all for it, but there is a catch.
My school has a campus here but it's shitty for engineering so I told her I rather apply for the best school possible(1# in Asia for my field of engineering). After a tough application process, I got it.
The issue is that there would be 2 weeks in the beginning of January that she would be traveling around Asia with the kids from my school but, not being part of their program, I would not be able to go.
At this point, you can probably guess where this is going.
Well, I think it'll be fine and she assures me it'll be fine. After all, we've been through longer periods apart, but I guess never with her going around drinking with a bunch of other college kids.
Well throughout the 2 weeks she starts pulling away. She stops answering my text as often, won't put in time for calls, and other smaller things like changing the profile picture she had of us.
I start to think there's something wrong. All my friends assure me that she wouldn't do that, she isn't like that. But my gut keeps telling me something wrong.
Well on the first day we're both in HK we schedule a date. My dumbass is all excited, I've missed her and there's been tension, this was finally a chance to set everything right and start an amazing semester together. Well, we then have a tensious dinner, to say the least, and at the end, she says "We need to talk", at this point I'm plastered from all the drinks. She starts to talk about "exploring" and some bullshit about "women not being selfish enough". Even though I was drunk and confused I start to see what is going on and start freaking out. Made so much worse by how drunk I was.
I then ask her point blank if she hooked up with somebody else.
She then proceeds to answer "Yes" with the biggest shit eating grin any of you have ever seen.
So that's that gents. AWALT as I have learned through this red suppository.
TL;DR: Girlfriend of 3 1/2 years plans a semester abroad in HK. Cheats and dumps me after 2 weeks apart before the semester starts.
Edit:
Thanks everyone for the support and advice. I have a much better sense of direction now.
I deleted her number and ended communication with her.
But life is a bitch and I ran into her at the race track.
Keeping trp in mind I behaved with frame and everything went as well as it could.
I didn't talk to her but a friend of mine overstepped his bounds and told her to come talk to me. The convo was short and I liked it. She said I looked great and quickly started complaining that I sounded fake(as opposed to the cute weak beta behavior I gave her before).
She was wearing a necklace I gave her so to piss her off I asked for it back. She was not pleased and seeing her that pissed off felt great.
She was with kids from my school and tried to poison the well, talking shit about me. Then she told me that she wanted me to back off which was fucking ridiculous cause these kids go to my school too. Doesn't matter though as I don't care that much if I don't see them again as there are better kids in my program.
Left without saying goodbye obviously.
But this leads me to a problem maybe one of you can help me with. Because the city is so small and our partying options are going to overlap a lot we will be running into each other a lot. I talked to my friend and he apologized(even let me give him a punch) so he won't be pulling that shit.
My intention is to just ignore her in the future and I'm guessing that's the best redpill move I can make.
All in all I consider it a successful encounter, especially given how drunk I was. I could see her glancing over multiple times while I was talking to friends and it really fucked with her that I was making friends with kids from my school.
Bone_Coat 5y ago
She starts to talk about "exploring" and some bullshit about "women not being selfish enough".
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that's the problem with girls, they think they deserve everything because they have a pussy and tits.
Trenned_out 5y ago
"She always loved to travel and I've been fortunate enough to provide her with it."
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Lol bro the blue pill provider dynamic is deeply ingrained in you bro. Why are you fortunate to give your resources away to a woman?
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Not putting you down, just trying to get you to reflect on little things in the writing that I found to be insightful into your mindset.
I know you're hurting right now and that's ok, even red pill guys have feelings. But the test of a man is if we let our feelings control us or if we take control, fight through the negative feelings and emotions. That all being said OP, you're going to be ok. Focus on the positive, you're in college man, sounds like you are a pretty well off guy if you are taking all these trips. Time to get out there and slay.
besantos10 5y ago
I didn't exactly mean it like that. More like I was fortunate enough to have the resources to be able to go on the trips. Plainly I'm fortunate my dad gave me the money to do so, not that I took her on it, she was obviously the fortunate one there.
Yeah thanks man. It's been a week and I'm already feeling better. Hitting up the gym, studying hard.
Ran into her and it went great. She mentioned I looked great, but was pissed I was being "fake" i.e not breaking down and talking about my feelings.
Trenned_out 5y ago
Good bro! This means you are standing strong and not crumbling like the beta she took you for. Even if on the inside you do feel like shit about this, maintain the front you are putting up now. Venting on a forum like this and getting feedback from other posters can be helpful. But in day to day life don't dwell on the negative, it will make it harder to move on.
Lucas_N750 5y ago
Damn, you must be really rich to be able to study at a US college brah, im brazilian too, good luck in your journey!
besantos10 5y ago
Yeah, bruh socioeconomic inequalities get amplified in poor countries.
Valeu man! Que nem falei no meu post to curtindo em Hong Kong agora mas volto pros EUA depois. Mas man no final eu quero voltar pro Brazil, melhor pais do mundo sem duvida.
CharCanDo 5y ago
You used he word kids multiple times.
Remember that. Remember what it feels like. Why you said kids instead of people. Then remember that you are of the half of the equation that emotionally grows past this stage of development. This won’t matter to you soon if you’re on your path.
Yoyareally 5y ago
Lots of lessons in this story. The main one fellas, if your bitch wants to put herself in a situation where there's alcohol and dick, with you not around - Shes following her hypergamy as you've fucked up. You've lost value somewhere, somehow and you're fucked. LTR game never stops as hypergamy doesn't lol Second lesson is where the fuck are your plates bro? Never stop thinking of the next one!
Vrokko 5y ago
I can guarantee that "women arent selfish enough" was the line Chad used to break down any last minute resistance if there even was any. So, shes parroting it.
javiercer20 5y ago
Being on a LTR is like attempting to drive a F1 car while you still studying to get your driver’s license, things like this are just evidence of where you’re standing.
besantos10 5y ago
You're fucking right and I'm just wondering how you know her better than me.
Honestly man this fucked with me, you're absolutely right but it fucked with me. I'm gonna need to take a fucking break after this.
therealpkg 5y ago
Because they're all the same.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Relax, friend. She is gone, the hurting is over, the healing begins now.
You are a lucky man because life handed you your prescription for your scarlet medication just in time. Not only will it make you healthy and whole again - it will immunize you against one-itis and morbus cuckhold.
If you keep working on yourself, you will pound a wide variety of meat curtains with such vigor, people will mistake you for a butcher. ;)
Seriously though. You are still in your growth phase. She will hit the wall in a few years. And you will sigh with relieve once you witness the bullet you dodged.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I love it.
"What's the right amount of selfish?" Watch her hamster go into overdrive.
EvrythingISayIsRight 5y ago
"I need to be a little more selfish. Then its okay if I cheat on my bf, cause I deserve this"
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Women love travel. It's like crack to them.
For women, it's the best stand-in for a personality you can get. They can pretend to be interesting by simply never forging long-lasting relationships with anybody and having a lot of stories of places they've been.
I have never met women so annoying than those with wanderlust.
These women have the thousand-cock stare for sure. You will never capture their full attention because they've always got one foot out the door.
They talk about all these amazing places they've been, but make no mistake, they're referring to the dicks they've sucked.
Women get alpha-widowed by travel. Trust me, stay away.
pol1010 5y ago
comment saved, future me will be thankful, thanks.
SpiritStatic 5y ago
It's a huge catharsis to read your remarks on that — when I was more prolific on Tinder/Bumble/etc I couldn't get over how many women led in with their "BURNING" desire for travel, and why it always seemed to come with a twinge of arrogance.
When I was younger, I always thought that I was just insecure because I wasn't traveling as much as they did...and therefore I was the one who was "less interesting."
The last few years have really lifted the veil.
imPwP 5y ago
Can confirm. That's exactly my ex.
the_pill_is_free 5y ago
I find you can even say this about women constantly moving jobs in a general -- they get all this male attention, gifts, time etc... Then they turn 30
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Wow, I have never seen someone articulate it so well. It's exactly true that the shittiest girls I have met are also travel addicts.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
This started making a lot of sense to me. All those bitches babbling about this city or that city... I was always like "well, that's architecture and some monuments, you saw it once, what's the big deal about it..."
Now I get it. It was those meat sceptres... the whole time.
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Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Travel does make one interesting though. Problem is to women travel is going to European clubs until 3am and not actually meeting new cultures.
But yea, travel girls are the worst.
DIARRHEA_EXORCISM 5y ago
The single girls on tinder are composed of 90% travel obsessed. It makes sense
BloodSurgery 5y ago
My mother always says shit about traveling to other countries, exploring the "beautiful places" and stuff, when she couldn't care about the placed themselves at all. Going to foreign countries without even knowing English, saying she will use Google translate, that's her dream.
This comment made me realize why she had these weird ideas, thanks.
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
My mother and my aunts are the same. Pretty sure in their case they aren't looking for dick because they are all 55+ and somewhat conservative, it's more about having cool stories to tell to pretend they are interesting.
Whenever they talk about the places they have been to it's never things like the architecture, the history, the culture, etc... it's always "Oh we went there and then this happened and then we met this person and then the guide told us this blah blah blah gossip gossip".
bikermonk 5y ago
It is also about dicks, make no mistake
Youngyoda89 5y ago
Depends. Are they wanting to travel to Africa? Or Jamaica?
SilenceOnTheWire 5y ago
No, mostly northern or central european countries.
457755263 5y ago
Fucking hell. Happened to me. GF and I were in college and she goes abroad. Gut instinct going nuts and looking back, I knew something was wrong. I knew exactly which guy it was too through all the FB pictures she was posting. We ended, I felt low for longer than I'd like to admit. Since then, Chad moved on and she's had another 6 boyfriends on top of that. Now I'm here questioning the validity of any girls advances from here on out.
besantos10 5y ago
I feel you man.
Weirdest part is that this trip was her idea. I just couldn't do the first two weeks of travel because that was a seminar for my school who has a campus here. But it's shitty.
I decided to apply for this amazing school here and just figured the two weeks apart would do no harm.
So yeah bitch couldn't wait two fucking weeks. I thought it was really weird at first (like why would she tell me to go with her for the entire semester just to do that?) but I've learned from this thread and hindsight that it was because of other issues with me.
457755263 5y ago
I wouldn't beat yourself up over something like this like I did, my man. I did everything I could and was as good a BF as any. It's a problem with immature and flirtatious girls who like to drink. A guy who is a little taller and handsomer could end a few years long relationship if she gets a little too drunk. Trust your gut, because it is damn near perfect on things like this. Only thing to do is to move on and work on yourself. I dwelled and suffered a little too long but finally started to understand the reality and RP material. It helps to know you don't go through it alone. We have almost the exact same situation. Also: get VERY picky if you're looking to enter another LTR. You'll save yourself down the road. Cheers mate
AmazingNone 5y ago
Honestly, if she left for 2 weeks and you almost instantly knew she would cheat, your confidence and trust in the relationship was never decent.
I'm sorry for the situation bro.
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Karlsunhk 5y ago
Jokes on her though, as a foreigner in Hong Kong you'll have a better time being single. Lan Kwai Fong time!
besantos10 5y ago
Right? At first I was disappointed we weren't going to have the semester we planned. But I quickly realized the timing couldn't have been more perfect.
I'm in a great school with a fuck ton of international/exchange kids and lkf has been a fuck ton of fun.
I'm 20 rn so if i was staying at the US this semester it would have been cold and depressing with little things for me to do(ie no bars). But now I get to party here and when I get back I'm 21 and can star going to bars and start playing that whole game.
Karlsunhk 5y ago
Yeah, good riddance. Enjoy HK till its fullest and keep going! Catch you around lkf!
ran1mal 5y ago
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red *repository*
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Although it may make sense as-written if that was the intended meaning. First AWALT experience is usually akin to a red-pill suppository.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppository
besantos10 5y ago
Nope it was definitely as intended hahaha.
jbpostv 5y ago
Not to denigrate what may have been a perfectly wonderful relationship but I can’t comprehend people LTRing people who live any more than 45 minutes away from them by car. Where’s the practicality or even enjoyment of a love that seems “destined” despite distance. That LDR says I’m willing to be celibate for months or a year at a time and she was probably fucking guys within 6 months of that time as well. There’s plenty of fish in the sea but please guys don’t swim too far it’s desperate. Swim as close as possible.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
My friend thinking with your dick overrides the brain we’ve all been there
jbpostv 5y ago
I know and he gets a pass for his first lay but I’ll tell you what last week I soft nexted a chick for holding me at second base on a second date because plenty of tinder and bumble matches will sleep on the first date or definitely second. And btw, the dick thinks in abundance the brain thinks in oneitis. Your dick doesn’t stop getting hard for other chicks when you commit, your mind overrides the dick with exclusivity
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Can we change it to heart thinks with oneitis, dick thinks short term please me, and brain thinks red pill thoughts?
besantos10 5y ago
You're absolutely right. Just hard to see when she's the first girl to put out and the first time you became emotionally invested in someone.
jbpostv 5y ago
Hey understandable man. It was probably amazing. First times are magic times in comparison I can promise you. But as special as your first home run is, the hall of fame is about hitting the most home runs
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ReformSociety 5y ago
*Shia LaBeouf Clap*
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NormalAndy 5y ago
I feel for you man. Still, you chose your education over her in the first place and you had a gut feeling what was coming. Good work.
Your turn is over- time to start plating some spicy HK treats!
Umpato 5y ago
Força amigo. Infelizmente eu passei por algo similar, e o pior é quando você tenta perdoar e ela repete o erro. Segue teu rumo que vai dar certo!
besantos10 5y ago
Valeu man! Eu ja perdoei, em termos de nao guardar rancor e passar pra frente.
Vou seguir, valeu man!
Broken_and_Ugly 5y ago
Sorry man it happens. Gotta learn to forgive and forget. You can’t control what she did or does. What you can control is your new freedom. Crush your new school. Head back to the gym. And focus on building yourself. Best revenge for a cheater is to live the best life you can without em. Plenty of hotties waiting for ya.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Yes it does.
No. You just have to understand that women are creatures of habit, and that it is your responsibility to achieve mastery over them.
Yes you can.
This is the correct procedure regardless. If you are not improving, then you are stagnating.
Fuck revenge. You may as well seek revenge on whichever bird shat on your car. Revenge is for validation-seeking faggots. Accept that a woman cheating is a failure on your part - like forgetting to lock your car only to find it stolen when you return.
This is true. And you should be pursuing them all of the time, even when your stable is full.
/u/beasantos10 needs to rise to his level of power over the situation.
Odinoo 5y ago
No, mastering psychology only goes so far. Some women you can master their psychology to keep them happy. Others have too much baggage that has altered their mental state, or a hedonistic mentality that doesnt operate with good predictability based on your actions.
They all respond relatively similar to strong SMV in the beginning, but mentally many women just dont have the tenacity to tolerate the monotony/boredom of long-term commitment.
besantos10 5y ago
Yeah thanks man I hear you.
It's funny but this actually makes it easier to do those things.
When I was with her life was all about her. I would come home have sex, smoke a bowl play some games, eat then have sex again.
It was fun but it wasn't good. I could feel myself stalling.
When we met I was fit, studying hard, and building myself. With her I became complacent, I stopped working out, and yeah I studied hard, but not as much as I should.
This anxiety that I have now is giving me so much motivation.
If I don't work out I start feeling like shit and it only goes away if I do. Same thing for studying.
She threw me into the wild and it put me in this survival mode that while hurts, I consciously know is better for me and find myself enjoying more everyday.
I'll tell ya the hindsight this has given me has convinced me that women are nothing short of a very dangerous drug.
Decoasta9 5y ago
And I am late to the post. However, if you think Asian women are hot, you have hit a potential gold mine because they love foreigners and there isn't much competition with the expat women as well. It should be easier to get laid there.
shelteringloon 5y ago
This post gives some insight into why things went south.
AWALT is often just an excuse.
LukesLikeIt 5y ago
She’s going to come back when she’s done and try get back together. Give her a big smile back and say no
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
As well as AWALT, it's always good to remember "it's just your turn". It helps keep perspective.
besantos10 5y ago
By "it's just your turn" you mean it was just my turn to fuck her and now it's somebody else's?
Cause if so that makes a lot of sense. I hadn't thought about it and just thought if I made her happy she'll stay. But I guess she was quick to forget.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Yes, but, the important thing to remember is that it isn't just about her; it is about EVERY woman that you have a relationship with. That means, that the chick that you finally want to settle down with, the girl that you are SURE is The One...you can't count on her any more than you could this slut.
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
Correct. Red Pill teaches that, "she is not yours, it is just your turn". Your turn to fuck her / be her boyfriend...whatever the relationship was to you both, it was your turn - now it's not.
I am in the same place of sorts - I am in a LTR, but I will never marry her (I have been married twice, once should have been enough). I value my independence too much.
Study hard, build a career, lift, meet women - but always ensure you are the prize. And always remember, it's just your turn.
besantos10 5y ago
That's a great teaching that I can't believe I didn't know.
I will definitely remember it thanks.
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
We're all learning. Every day is a school day - and that comment is for me as much as you. Take time to reflect, what did you do well? Where did you compromise yourself? What would you do different next time. When these situations arise, you'll be prepared.
There is a lot of experience on this sub, hopefully you can learn from the mistakes of those (like me) who only found this sub after making every blue pill mistake going.
Frich3 5y ago
What happened with the first two marriages? Why did you divorce? And I guess an even better question is what made you think the second time would be any different? Just wondering
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
My first marriage - I was way too young, 23. Brought up in a religious environment, encouraged to marry, have kids - always do the right thing. Well marrying her wasn't the right thing as I quickly found out. But wasted years of my life trying to make it work. I had no RP in my life at this stage. Just an upbringing of "happy wife happy life" type cliches. I didn't have a cue what I was doing. No kids thank fuck, we split everything 50/50 and went our seperate ways.
Second marriage was a lot different. No religion getting in the way - just me living my life. However, I still bought into that "happy wife happy life, treat her like a princess" bullshit. Of course everything was great at first, but looking back now, I saw one or two signs of typical woman insanity that now would be a massive red flag. Anyway, we married, had kids....but I let myself go. Didn't dress well (tight budget bringing up kids), I didn't lead (she managed the finances - badly), and the bedroom went dead.
I had two affairs - I wasn't getting any sex - but I didn't know why. Now I know why of course. The first affair was while my wife was pregnant with child #2. Pretty shit eh?! And I was shitting where I ate! (As a side note, do not do that EVER. It fucks your life in so many ways.) The second affair was after I found TRP. My kids were much older, and I had just gone into that anger stage. I fucking hated her - and still do - but for other reasons!
Once you have an affair, and try make things work - you become the bad guy. Every argument ends with a trump card, "You had an affair". Instant loser. You can't win.
I still gave her everything - every spare bit of cash, I would ask her if she wanted something. She would say yes, then never use whatever she got. Writing this makes me laugh in a way - I knew fuck all about relationships, and how to make them work. Hilarious!
I got to a point where I had mentally checked out of the marriage, I didn't care for her anymore. But I was too chicken to leave. Eventually I did, and I am better off for not being in that marriage.
Now my life is 100% different. I have my independence, my own finances, I do as I please - to a certain extent. Relationships are give and take of course. But I encourage my LTR to do the same. I tell her if she ever wants to finish the relationship, she just has to say so, and I'll move out of her place within an hour. I don't pay towards her household bills except for food. I don't have any claim on her house, and she doesn't have any on mine. I go to the gym when I want (which is nearly every day), and spend my own money on what I wan't. Life is sweet.
The downside is that I do not see my kids as much as I like, and the challenges that divorce with children throws up are many. You cannot prepare for them, not matter how hard you try. It's a tough process to go through. But life is about learning. You never stop learning, or having new experiences - good or bad. You just become a little wiser and learn to see the shit a bit easier before it happens.
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Sonny_Luna 5y ago
ALL women are like that...
"out of nowhere"
Mkay
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Truedemocracy4 5y ago
“Women not being selfish enough” and there it is. Mental gymnastics that make her the victim and give her all the justification she needs
gerfcam 5y ago
Sounds like you were her beta provider. If you're the best man your girl can get she won't cheat on you. You were to invested. Good for you it's over, now is the time to work on yourself
besantos10 5y ago
Definitely didn't start like that but I gotta start facing the fact it degenerated into that.
balalasaurus 5y ago
Wait until you realize that a major part of why you two got together in the first place was because of how ‘exotic’ you are as a Brazilian.
besantos10 5y ago
No doubt. That always made it possible for me to hook up with American 8s and 9s I wouldn't be able to back home.
Made me feel cheap but at least I can keep using it.
TRP8myfeels 5y ago
Na see the issue here isn't quite as fleshed out as it needs to be. This woman was never supposed to make it to LTR.
First of all there are problems with you, and you know this guy right? You said from your class.
Think back, how much engagement has she had with him in the past? This could have been brewing for awhile.
Regardless it is a perfect opportunity for you to improve yourself and you have plenty of clear examples sitting in your prior relationship to draw upon. Too often dudes fixate on letting a woman get away from them, instantly means they will fuck some rando. Sure it can happen and there's something important to remember about that.
You would do the same thing, or at least you SHOULD. She's doing nothing wrong here, she found a taste for something new and she's going for the branch swing instead of just getting some strange dick and trying to come back.
She did what she thought was right, which is tell you flat out that it is over, but chances are high things weren't going all that well beforehand or else she wouldn't have had such a hard signal from this new guy to leave you.
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You don't leave where you are passionately getting fucked right and on a joined mission with another partner. You might still cheat, because chemistry, drinks, exotic short term location etc... but you don't break it off unless you:
1 Would never cheat and lie.
2 See less value in your current relationship than being single and banging this new dude.
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Usually it's a few dudes on the CC, then they feel that regret for instability and miss having a solid dude. They know they messed up but they weren't managed properly by that solid dude, because he started running on autopilot or in ruts.
It always leads back to the man not having a strong enough hold on the woman to keep her from taking single girl actions. Women naturally want to be treated as beautiful and desirable creatures by everyone. You lose them to men when you aren't there because they are easy to manipulate.
Downgrade and start gaming other women. You should have never stopped gaming other women and you should have never gotten into an LTR with this one.
Look back, tell me you can't see a few signs that she wasn't LTR material that you let slide because 'this is the one' or whatever.
bondbandito 5y ago
I think you hit the nail on the head. This case wasn't so much of AWALT but the girl already being in the high - risk category from the get-go.
besantos10 5y ago
I don't know him beyond the fact that he goes to my university. I'm 100% sure they met there as no one knew each other before.
She didn't outright say it was over, she said she wanted to explore but wanted to keep seeing me, open relationship and such. I passed on that.
But regardless, everything else you said makes sense and is right. I lost sight and just started being nice because it's easy to default to that. So I guess she did me a favor because I don't wanna be the guy that I was turning into.
And it's like you said, if she did what she did it's because I didn't have a strong enough grip on her.
TRP8myfeels 5y ago
Yah she wants to keep fucking that guy but still have the comfort with you.
Open relationship works great, that's what it was the whole time. the labels and the assumptions of what it was before were the lie. Yes, go forth and make yourself better. Best of luck having a better hold in the future though, it tends to work in an opposing way. The more women want to be with you, the less likely you will be interested in retaining them. Even high quality women that want to retain you, you must watch them for actions single women would take. A woman who really wants to be with you long term will almost enslave herself to you and give up all other male connections. Not entirely, but never spending time alone with men, always want to be with you etc etc etc.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
And the money, support, gifts, presents, etc...
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besantos10 5y ago
This thread is teaching me so fucking much I'm going to have to read it over and over for a while.
You're so fucking right. But she doesn't even want to be with that guy, she just hooked up with him once. She's already on to hooking up with other guys. At least I think.
This rings true as the moment's our relationship was the strongest was when she behaved most like that.
TRP8myfeels 5y ago
Hey and just don't take it too hard brother. Most relationships have a time line. They peak and they end and you should not only be prepared for that, [maybe just quietly without mentioning it] but embrace it as a rich and diverse life story.
There are so many women out there, and you deserve to experience a variety of feminine experiences. Not even all of them sexual, just passing day by day inspirations to engage with women.
I love to laugh and smile with a new woman, even if it is just for a moment in line at the grocery store or at some weekend gathering.
The best you can do is see the signs that a relationship is coming to a close and handle it properly and with grace. Love them passionately when it is time and release them and yourself when it is over.
Sometimes if you make a clean enough break you can continue loving each other for a life time, on and off. My father had a single 'best friend' that he had sex with for almost two decades. They did other friendly things now and then but it was just a breath of fresh air thing. A deep understanding and caring for each other without commitment.
I'm working on something similar. Most the women I get close with I never allow them to say forever or make long promises. It isn't worth it to be found out a liar years into a commitment.
You don't want to have the ammunition, "I gave you everything!" because that is the fault of the giver, giving too much is unattractive.
Only hardcore Slave/Master relationships are like that, and even those constantly are ending and beginning. They have the extra step of a legal document, not a bad idea for any relationship LOL.
Tjommas 5y ago
My man, it's time for you to start being selfish. You can spend a lot of energy resenting her but it will not help your goals.
I hope it doesn't hurt too much, anyway time as always is your friend in these matters.
Go and reach your goals and have a great time along the way!
besantos10 5y ago
I don't resent her anymore. And now I will definitely start being selfish.
I missed her for the first 3 days, resented her for a week, then decided that I should just let go.
I forgive her at this point, obviously not getting back together just not holding a grudge.
Thanks, man. Like I said the first three days were the worst but things are a lot better now.
You're absolutely right and I appreciate the support!
Tjommas 5y ago
The fact that you, at such a young age can see it this way means you're more mature than many people will be their entire life, and it's a truly great asset!
You're gonna have a great life, good stuff my friend!
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Hold on, he's newly broken up-he could be in the giddy stage, and cave in big time tomorrow.
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
I'm surprised you don't know much about traveling girls.
I have yet to meet a girl who loves to travel and also doesn't sample a lot of dick.
Most of these girls are from small rural conservative Christian towns who you would never believe from their mannerisms that they were the biggest sluts abroad
twy3440 5y ago
It's almost as if they travel to get their slut on.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Indeed. Wanderlust is the biggest red flag for slut you can find.
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"I love to travel" = "I love getting gang-banged by Australians while on drugs in a southeast Asian hostel"
457755263 5y ago
Are you some kind of oracle? "Most of these girls are from small rural conservative Christian towns who you would never believe from their mannerisms that they were the biggest sluts abroad" Exact bitch that cheated on me abroad
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It's naive to think only "traveling girls" will sample dick. If a woman wants to get dick, she can get dick on any occasion. It doesn't matter if she is 1203121 miles away, or a few blocks away.
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
These girls are from small towns where everyone would find out they are sluts.
It is most important for them to travel away, city girls have more anonymity.
Irtotallynotrobot 5y ago
It took me way too long to put that together. That makes a lot of sense.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
once you understand the way they think, all of the pieces fall in to place.
AdamP00l 5y ago
Oh my god. You just described my ex. I met her in a foreign country. She grew up in a catholic school in a very conservative small area of Brazil (I'm french). A travelling girl by definition with classy manners. My spider sense started tingling when she told me about all the countries she loves (= countries with white population. She loves white guys).
Turned out I was away for 6 months and when I came back I discovered she rode the cock train. No need to say she took the exit door and never heard from me again. That was my AWALT understanding moment.
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
It's cuz the ones who want to slut it up can't do it in their town so they have to leave.
ideserveall 5y ago
Can confirm. The only reason girls travel is for exotic dick and nobody from her close social circle wil be able to shame her. Thats what girls call freedom.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Women often don’t even bang locals abroad. They bang other westerners traveling
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ideserveall 5y ago
They do it in south america and africa.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Have a hard time picturing that
TheDevilsAdvokaat 5y ago
Yes, I second this. In fact, a large PART of the reason girls like "traveling" is access to fresh dick, PLUS a good chance no-one will know what they've been up to - including boyfriends back home.
"traveling" is a great way for girls to fuck around and be able to hide the evidence. It can even help them feel less guilty about it too; "it's just a holiday fling it didn't mean anything so I don't need to tell him" and "what he doesn't know won't hurt him".
TL:DR; if a girl travels she also fucks around.
DIARRHEA_EXORCISM 5y ago
Women are all about social reputation. Traveling to a new city why not flash their tits in a bar or sleep with whatever randoms approach? Once they leave none of that reputation follows them. They will do a lot more than they would do in their home town where they run into the same people who will talk about them
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
This is the reason. Fresh dicks and no social peer pressure ("What happens in Bangkok stays in Bangkok, gal pals!")
Sex and the City programmed an entire generation of women in to thinking this type of behavior is socially acceptable and cool.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Also they can script whatever story they want in their heads. Women love emotions and how exotic it is. Banging Greg the accountant back home or some random dude (usually another Western European or American) abroad is just soooo magical
TheDevilsAdvokaat 5y ago
Hated that show. Never watched a complete episode; I only saw glimpses of others watching it as I walked in and out of the living room. Longest I ever saw was five minutes of it once and they were sitting in a restaurant and giggling about about they'd love to fuck some waiter; that was enough for me.
Interestingly enough last year I did see an article by a woman who said she'd watched sex and the city when she was young, thought they were role models, managed to live like them for a decade or so ..and now regretted it and thought they had helped to ruin her life.
besantos10 5y ago
It fucks with me how right you are.
death-loves-time 5y ago
update us in 2 months when she comes crawling back missing the stable thing she had with you
remember, silence hurts the most
besantos10 5y ago
Yep let's see I'm curious more than anything now.
People told me silence was best, (believe it or not my mother was the most adamant about it irl) but this thread really sunk it in.
I deleted her number just to make sure I dont do anything stupid when drunk. Can't even block her cause I don't have her number and deleted our chats.
death-loves-time 5y ago
yeah it wont matter, she will be sure to contact you first, dont forget to post for the memes!
besantos10 5y ago
Hahaha, she'll have to.
Not only won't I out of frame, but I also ditched all forms of contact I had(number, chats, snapchat, Instagram, even deleted my call logs) with her.
And I definitely will. I was fortunate enough to be born with a hardworking father who made money and gave me everything I wanted. I spoiled her so fucking much if it wasn't clear from the post. Trips, gifts, jewelry, shoes.
I don't care about any of the expensive jewelry but there's a necklace I gave her that was my mothers and I'm getting it back. All her shit is at my apartment and when she comes for it I'll only give it back if she gives the necklace.
Now she has a standard for living that I'm sure no guy will match. Not only because many guys my age don't have the disposable income, but because most aren't as bluepilled as I was by the end of the relationship.
She'll be fuming when I use the tickets I got for us for either a dude or some other chick willing to put out.
death-loves-time 5y ago
LOL nvm 2 months, ill be expecting that post in about 3 weeks
also be sure to pressure the cunt, let her know her stuff will be donated very soon if she doesn't come pick it up (bonus if shes abroad ) hahah
ArthyRed 5y ago
Never seen it this way, but I can't unsee it now haha. Seems so obvious
TheDevilsAdvokaat 5y ago
Yep...so, watch out if "your" girl wants to go on holidays without you...
besantos10 5y ago
Funny, same exact thing here but Jewish.
Yeah, I just started sampling some of these traveling girls, but none of them were dating.
Doesn't make a difference I guess.
other_worlds 5y ago
Of course they weren't. Eventually one stops asking the questions that solicit the most lies.
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Haha, Jewish. She would have ruined your life anyways. You are lucky
Aesthetik_1 5y ago
lol why is that? Genuinely curious
OkPhilosophy1 5y ago
Not OP but having dated Jewish girls I'd say there is a gradual, hard curve of going from "perfect girl next door" to "why aren't you better than you are? I can do so much better. Men oppress us. I should be doing whatever I want, you just have to deal with it.". It's a serious quicksand effect.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
I'm Jewish and have dated several Jewish girls and non-Jewish girls of pretty much every race aside from Eskimo. The Jew girls and gentile girls ALL DO THIS SHIT. Social media and feminism have destroyed entire generations of women OF ALL RACES AND CREEDS, both Jewess and Goyess alike! It happens when they move to the cities and start getting addicted to smart phones. College and IG are the biggest female programming tools.
AWALT broski, yes this even applies to Jewish girls
If you want a girl who doesn't behave like this, you need to find a unicorn, or a traditional girl raised in a village who has no ambition to go to the cityand become addicted to social media or in other words, a unicorn.
nsfwalt900 5y ago
Why is there a wiki page for Jewish feminist?
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
I don't know, I don't make many wiki pages. Most of my wealthy Jewish female acquaintances are indeed leftist pussyhat loving feminists. But again, that describes 90% of the girls in the "progressive" and "free thinking" city that I live in. I have met many Israeli girls who are normal/trad and based, and in the conservative synagogues the Jew girls are feminine and nice to be around.
OkPhilosophy1 5y ago
I'm in no way saying this is exclusive to Jewish girls, kosher friend. I'm just saying it's the type of behavior that emerges. There's a serious "I look like your dream girl and I'm everything you could want" that is perfectly fine until at some point all of the control and belittling starts to come out. I'm sure other girls do it too, but I'd say this particular type of behavior is very common with Jewish girls.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
again, AWALT
I dunno, I think it's just the girls you are meeting and fucking. As a Jew raised around Jewish women, and member of my local large Jewish community, I'd say most of them are spoiled Jewish American Princess types, narcissists and/or brainwashed by social justice bullshit.
In other words they are your typical Western city girl.
They are just as susceptible to peer pressure and media indoctrination as every other type of girl.
This is called borderline personality disorder. You need to figure out why you are attracted to borderlines and you need to learn how to spot the red flags better. Are there a bunch of mentally ill depressed and drugged up women in the Jewish community who want to take their shit out on their boyfriends? Yes, but again that applies to Western girls in general.
OkPhilosophy1 5y ago
Major yes.
I gotta stop ya right there because I'm not, and not every girl I ever dated was like that, that's an assumption.
I'm not saying much of this also applies to western girls, I'm just saying this is a particularly prevalent behavior that shows up very noticeably in Jewish girls. (Not just in my experience either, I bonded with a guy over a similar time former relationship he had with one)
Idk who's downvoting you btw, it's not me.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
Think about it like this-most Jewish girls in America live in liberal cities and are surrounded their whole lives by an echo chamber of liberal "progressive" Jews who all believe the same shit and act the same way. I used to go to Synagogue every week and for the big holidays and all the Rabbis and community groups were always promoting stupid libtard progressive causes and charities so that is part of the echo chamber.
Progressive libtard girls in general act like this, and it turns out most Jews in America are progressive libtards raised in libtard echo chambers.
I say this as a Jewish kid raised in one of those echo chambers his whole life lol
I wound up switching to a conservative form of Judaism away from my family and the girls there were all trad-cons who just cooked and covered up and acted silent and feminine among men. So there are pleasant Jewish women out there who don't fit the prog-American Jew stereotype. I also met many Israeli women who are pleasant and don't act like libtard western girls.
No worries on downvotes! Maybe my opinion is wrong. I'm Jewish, but I'm not one of those IDF useful idiots who defends the Jews and the state of Israel on every issue like their life depends on it.
I think there is also a high degree of mental illness in the Jewish woman community that is passed down genetically and epigenetically, so you could be right, and also it's probably why I'm quick to assume the Jew girls you're meeting are all borderlines.
In otherwords, I'm slightly projecting :P
The cities are the source of the evil. Hashem destroyed Soddom and Gamorrah for a reason! It was an ancient message instructing men that CITIES LEAD TO DEGENERACY AND ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED.
Cities are where all of these nice girls go to get turned in to femidemons.
evilassaultweapon 5y ago
I’m guessing because we’ve got ourselves a Jew hater. That or just a shitposter
Schhwing 5y ago
“She is a little angle”
...like how many degrees we talking?
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light-----------dark 5y ago
You got yourself into a LDR.
You basically move in together after moving to the U.S for her.
You then follow her to Asia.
Sure, AWALT, but some women are less like that when they have a man with a backbone and frame.
You have neither, hence why she left.
Great job on school - keep doing cool shit like that.
besantos10 5y ago
I moved to the US to study engineering because education back home in shit.
Im a year older than her and when she graduated she followed me to the school I was studying at. I didn't want to move in together, I just got a place of my own that she stayed over 99% of the time and I didn't mind cause sex.
I didn't follow her to Hong Kong either, she suggested it and it was also a great career move for me.
I have plenty of backbone and frame she's just a cheater.
I broke frame because I was hit by a pile of bricks out of no where while drunk and not expecting it. But I quickly regained it after 3 days of feeling sorry for myself.
Honestly the only part that I lacked backbone was not dumping her when she started showing signs on her trip, but after 3 1/2 years I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Robster25 5y ago
It was very smart of you to get hammered, when you know that you are on a date and haven't seen your GF in a long time...not. Hope you learn that you shouldn't get wasted, when you are on a date.
dDiegoDLV 5y ago
Why the preaching about getting drunk on a date? Do we get Alpha bonus points for harsh useless criticism?
besantos10 5y ago
I understand on a first date yeah that's not very cool. But after three years all I wanted to do is her drunk with her and have fun.
If I knew what dinner would be like you're absolutely right I wouldn't have drank a sip.
Orbiter45 5y ago
yea, OP, I'm with you, you didn't do anything wrong. You made career moves, for you. You got drunk, because you wanted to. You gave her a chance, because YOU invested 3+ years into her.
All of your choices, are about you, she is the one that took advantage of your trust.
And I like your frame in this thread.
Robster25 5y ago
Not even that...You said you haven't seen her in a long time. Can you only enjoy each others company, when you are drunk? Hate on me all you want, but it doesn't look very mature to me.
Hombremaniac 5y ago
It would have changed nothing in the end.
Robster25 5y ago
Nope it wouldn't have changed the result with her sleeping around on him, but atleast he wouldn't have freaked out and looked like a fool.
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EP13 5y ago
I'm sure he's very worried about how he looked to a girl who cheated on him
dDiegoDLV 5y ago
Why hammer the guy for breaking down when his LTR of 3 years tells him she is a ho and smiles about it?
It would have been great if he lied and said "What a relief! I have been boning this Asian girl and felt so guilty". Then watch the hampster shift into overdrive. Try not to get stabbed when the hypocrite slut that was cheating on you goes psycho because you gave her a dose of her own medicine.
The lesson is to trust your gut. OP should have dropped her when he felt the vibe change. You don't need to be 100% sure to walk away. You don't discuss it. Don't raise drama. Don't give her a chance to lie to you. Your turn is over. Just end it.
LTR on vacation isn't into talking to you then changes her couple profile pic to a solo pic? That right there should be enough for you to guess that things are wrong and end it. It is easy to say that reading his post. It would be much harder to do if you were OP.
Hang in there OP. You blocked her on all social media and your phone already right?
besantos10 5y ago
Holy fuck that would have been too much hahaha.
Yeah exactly, I thought she was just being petty or playing some games bullshit.
I unfollowed her on insta. But she messaged me about doing lunch and I said why the fuck not. Honestly I know it's weak but there's some shit I want to say to her.
Like I said I was drunk as fuck and so I didn't react like I wanted. But now I get the chance to have the breakup meal I wanted and say all the shit I need before moving on.
dDiegoDLV 5y ago
I think this break up meal is a terrible idea unless you are 500% sure you will feel nothing (No anger, sadness, disappointment, or shame. Any drama, arguing, chastising, or affection you show her makes you look beta. Your emotional level needs to be like you wanted spearmint gum, but they were out so you had to buy peppermint instead. I dont think I could be that stoic saying goodbye to a 4 year LTR
besantos10 5y ago
You're absolutely right. It's not what I was thinking before but several of the comments here made me realize that. A part of me just wanted to see her and I was rationalizing.
It's too soon for me to be able to hold frame like I need to in a meeting with her. I was barely able to do it when I ran into her.
I'll still go to school with her, so maybe a year from now I'll grab a coffee from her when I won't be standing so close to picture as not to see it.
Thanks for the genuine advice. I appreciate it.
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Bro... she cheated on you. Why do you need to go back? Block on everything... she disrespected your time dude.
besantos10 5y ago
I was thinking of it more for more benefit.
But I'm starting to think it's not even worth it and might not help me.
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besantos10 5y ago
Really? I thought doing a post mortem of sorts would be good. Because I still don't know wtf happened to a certain extent and want to figure it out. Redflags I didn't see and such so I can see the signs in the future and don't repeat mistakes.
You don't think there enough value in that?
Edit:
Idk why he deleted the comment it made complete sense.
It changed my mind. I cancelled and deleted her number(should've done it before).
I was being weak af and stupid by rationalizing it was a good idea.
I forget your username but you were right. Thanks.
superkewldood 5y ago
Don’t go to lunch you Bitch ass, you literally just posted that you blocked her on everything and want to be silent!
besantos10 5y ago
I won't! I was going to go to lunch, then the sub called me out, then I canceled then after I blocked her on everything. In that order of events.
muddynips 5y ago
RP men judge women by actions alone. There’s nothing more to be learned by listening to her rationalize and reframe reality around her actions.
Ask yourself this: what is she getting out of it? She doesn’t give a shit about you, so why would she explain herself?
therealpkg 5y ago
No way, listen to FlipFlops, he's 100% correct. Absolutely disappear on her, 0 contact. I promise you, there isn't a combination of words you can use that she's going to interpret as anything other than you being still invested in her (though in her mind, she won't even be that nice about it).
lololasaurus 5y ago
Absolutely not. She just wants to meet with you so she can make sure you're still interested in her enough that you can't move on. She already moved on.
Don't even show up. Don't respond when she asks why.
SickOfIt518 5y ago
100% on point. Just disappear dude and leave her wondering.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yep, if she pulled this card guarantee she hasn’t spent one second thinking of her ex
BloodSurgery 5y ago
You wanted closure.
http://archive.is/ENAtL
Read this.
besantos10 5y ago
I ran into her and this served me well.
I wrote about the encounter in my edit and it went great. I kept thinking about this and did not have one fucking chink in my armor. She called me fake for it and I could see it fucked with her.
evilassaultweapon 5y ago
I usually would never stand someone up, but in this case that’s exactly what you should do. Stand her up and ghost the bitch when she indignantly texts you.
besantos10 5y ago
Just messaged her canceling it then blocked and deleted her number.
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besantos10 5y ago
You're absolutely right, if I tried to show my feelings to her it would have been nothing more than me showing how pathetic I am.
I ran into her and documented the story in my edit. I did not have one fucking chink in my armor. She called me fake for it and I could see it fucked with her.
I broke down a little on the way back home with my friends but hey, she'll never know that. All she knows is that I was happy and confident and that I don't need any fucking closure.
HumbleRedPillStudent 5y ago
Please please PLEASE don't go to lunch with her.
To get the "full story" is a hopeless exercise in futility and only proves your lingering investment.
To give her the closure she wants after what she's done to you indicates that you have really poor self respect.
Don't play games, just say that you're too busy to get together but best wishes. Or say nothing at all.
The loose threads that she made are hers to hamster out.
You're going to get through this and you will look back with gratitude about the lesson you learned. There's only one way to net yourself profit from this situation, and that's to take all the negative turmoil and use it for fuel in school, the gym, etc.
Study hard, congratulations on getting into that school, and we're all here for you if you need us.
besantos10 5y ago
Yeah you're right. I just canceled and blocked. Needed you guys to tell me I was being stupid to see it.
Just deleted her from my phone and our chat, 40,000 messages in total taking a while to delete. Nudes, memories, 3 years just down the drain.
But it's weird I have this jumpy good feeling already.
You guys are the fucking best this is going to be great.
HumbleRedPillStudent 5y ago
Stay stong and PM if you need us.
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PosnerRocks 5y ago
I'd suggest shifting your mindset a bit. Don't view it as three years down the drain. This is where the "she isn't yours, it's just your turn" mindset comes in. You spent three years having a good time. Traveling with someone you cared about. Got to experience and grow a lot. Just because it didn't work out in the end doesn't mean the three years was a waste.
Focus on being present and enjoy what you're doing. You made a good move here but you are going to have moments of weakness and it is important you do not backpedal. I would write down in a note on your phone exactly how she made you feel in that moment when she dropped the bomb on you. When you feel like you want to reach out, read that note. It will remind you of why you took these steps in the first place.
thepesterman 5y ago
Probably too late now but you could've met up then told her how much of a great time you've had since you haven't been together, and how much you are enjoying being single and the 'experiences' that it brings and she probably try and get back with you and then you can say no I'm having too much of a great time being single, and get a massive confidence boost.
You might even get a fuck out of it
lololasaurus 5y ago
This is nonsense.
He isn't there (and I don't blame him personally). She will see through that garbage unless it's real.
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Yeah exactly... I don't necessarily think her traveling away was the key component to her cheating. Him agreeing to the LDR may have been the trigger for to want to get some other dick. And there is no way she all of a sudden decides to cheat on a 10 day trip.
ozaku7 5y ago
She didn't feel for him but it didn't feel as bad because he was so far away. Then he followed her ass around.
Never follow a woman. She should follow you.
besantos10 5y ago
I didn't follow her ass around read the fucking post instead of spewing bs.
Frich3 5y ago
First marriage you did exactly what not to do and was beta. She left. Second marriage you did what you were supposed to do, except gain weight of course, had options, and she still resented you, so she ended up leaving. Do you think she would have eventually left you or were you the alpha everyone talks about ok red pill, that she wouldn’t have left so you had to?
Also, are you completely against marriage simply because of your own situations or are you against it for other reasons? Basically what would you advise a person who wants to wait until mid 30’s to get married? Thanks for the insight
besantos10 5y ago
In didn't gain that much way btw lol. Just went from 76 all lean to 82 with some love handles, I'm back down to 77 while slimming and lifting.
A little bit of both.
If I had continued with the redpill mentality I had when we meet then I'm sure she wouldn't have done what she did. But I grew complacent and stopped playing the game because I didn't have to. But now with hindsight I also see the wolf in sheeps clothing she is/was and that she put up an attitude that it was ok for me to be beta and that she only liked me more for it.
I'm just 20 rn so idk what I'll think later, probably still won't. Honestly I just don't feel like signing away half my shit to an animal whose innate behavior is so selfish.
I have this platonic friend girl whom both of us have negative romantic interest in each other. She's been satisfying all my beta emotional needs lately and its made me realize I don't need(nor should I for the sake of keeping the invested) to rely on a girlfriend for issues of emotional vulnerability that I need to work out.
Like when I was feeling like shit and felt like calling my ex I just called her and vented and said what I wanted to my ex. All the betaness of vulnerability with no downside.
Eventually I'll be over it enough and have built enough frame that I won't even need her.
After this experience I'm finally convinced to keep women I fuck away from my vulnerabilities and weaknesses.
Which I guess is the opposite of what the marriage philosophy dictates.
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besantos10 5y ago
I have a strict rule of only hitting women if they hit me first. If even then.
But I should've said some shit I didn't.
I was going to go out with her to say it but this sub convinced me I was better off cutting completely.
atticusfinch1973 5y ago
Hate to say it but it likely wasn't the first time.
Good for you for getting into the best school possible. Focus on that. And with the international experience I'm sure you won't have a problem finding a good job, life and several replacements for her.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Exactly, who the fuck cares about one cheating bitch when u git accepted to the best school. It's so fucking exciting!
besantos10 5y ago
I think so too but don't like to think about it too much.
Yeah, I will, it's a little fresh but every day is easier than the last. Thanks.
deterlaettis 5y ago
Man, are you attending a great school in HK? I'd kill to be you, your life is great rightnow and this girl will be but a very faint memory in the future. Stay on the hustle and some great girl for you is gonna come along no worries.
besantos10 5y ago
Thanks man. Yeah ive hooked up with a girl since but still letting go of the old. Doing some travelling around, definitely will meet some more travelling bitches. Thanks for the support man.
whatdidshewrite 5y ago
I don’t understand these ‘AWALT’ posts going along the lines of “waaah she left me”.
You: future engineering graduate from the best school in Asia, able to provide for extravagant trips for yourself and your SO across the country.
Her: some bitch
And you think you got the short end of the stick??
Stfu.
besantos10 5y ago
Well in general I believe I'm a very lucky guy.
This just fucking
suckedfelt bad but was what I needed.MikeTyson91 5y ago
You dodged a bullet there, laddy.
whatdidshewrite 5y ago
This sucks because YOU can’t provide for HER anymore?
She wasn’t doing you any favours man. You have nothing to feel bad about.
besantos10 5y ago
You're right.
You just get stuck in that mindset and makes it hard to see common sense like this.
The only favour she did to me was this.
architectintx 5y ago
@WHATDIDSHEWRITE.
TONE DOWN YOUR TEMPO, YOU JUST HEARD A GOOD STORY, LEARN FROM IT AND LEAVE IT THERE.
BloodSurgery 5y ago
Just by replying to then they get the message to their inbox lol.
You can always do a /u/(name of the user) do they get the message, or u/(user) do they don't get the notification they been mentioned.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
His comment is pure gold.
Harsh maybe, but that's the reality of the situation.
Learn the ways of TRP young padawan and one day you can be as observant at whatdidshewrite.
jamesbond0512 5y ago
Fuck off. He’s showing him the positive side of the story.
besantos10 5y ago
Absolutely right.
I'm still lifting the fog and common sense like this makes me see why this was good.
I was a fucking idiot and by not pointing that out is a huge disservice to me.
The entire reason why so posted here is because you all are fucking ruthless and will call my beta thinking out.
architectintx 5y ago
Mr.Bond, keep my mouth close to where it belongs, have civility or get booted off this reddit.
grandmasbroach 5y ago
You're an idiot. That is all.
besantos10 5y ago
At least I'm fucking working on it.
grandmasbroach 5y ago
Wtf happened to this place? This little sperglet clearly hasn't even read the sidebar.
besantos10 5y ago
I did man. But a while ago, I was actually reading the rational male when I met her.
I was 16 at the time and she clouded my judgement. I'm 20 now.
But this gives me the sucker punch I needed.
Nobody here is agreeing with what I did. They're calling me out on my bullshit so I can grow and not do this shit again.
I'm getting back into it and will definitely be diving back into the literature.
You shouldn't make fun of the fat guy at the gym.
CensorThis111 5y ago
Do you genuinely believe that this "toxic masculinity" serves a function?
Because quite frankly, all it does for me is prove the validity of the term.
You think calling him an idiot is helping him, but you're deluded.
grandmasbroach 5y ago
Yes, toxic masculinity built civilization as you know it. So, yeah...
Im_Not_Kevin 5y ago
Strong men are capable of being strong and looking after their weaker brothers.
You are a weak man under guise of acting Strong. Weak men put down their brothers instead of raising them up.
I hope you change
General_Queipo 5y ago
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Does this make you weak, since you are putting him down?
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Also, this is a classic no true scotsman fallacy. Strong men act in all sorts of ways, doing more or less as they please, because they are strong and can therefore do so. Strength has nothing to do with being nice. Stop being such a cuck.
Im_Not_Kevin 5y ago
Scolding someone for doing wrong to another is different than Belittling someone who has failed.
I am a Weak Man though. Wouldn't be on an online forum discussing this if I wasn't. I am, as all of us should be, working towards being a Strong Man.
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Bullet dodged.
yumyumgivemesome 5y ago
You actually think that this wasn't her first time cheating? Just curious what makes you think that. It seems like this was a specific opportunity (traveling + alcohol) along with a very noticeable change in how she interacted with you. In retrospect, were there other times in the past that should have been red flags, yet you completely ignored them?
DeGENZerate 5y ago
Oh you don't like to think about it too much? Well let me help you with that.
You should realize that there were some pretty disguisting things that physically happened. She probably blew him first. Wrapped her cute lips around a penis. As it rammed down her throat his balls slapped her chin she made grargling noises. He blew is semen everywhere all over her throat her face, everything.
Then later he stuck his dick in her and she came. Hard. Harder than she came for you in the last 2 years of your relationship. She was really really wet. Let that sink in
There's your Red Pill reality no need to thank me I enjoy this
evilassaultweapon 5y ago
Fuckin gen z...
mrmaldoror 5y ago
Baha I want to join in and write some smut too. OP, again, she probably did much much more. Especially if she smiled when she told you aha
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Yeah, that smile told me that she rimmed at least one of the dudes she fucked, did some ATM, and pulled a couple of trains.
DoctorWaffleHouse 5y ago
So fucking true.
I've had so many girls with boyfriends/husbands that suck my dick, lick my asshole and let me slap them around. Just for them to then happily leave back to their boyfriends and give them a big happy kiss on the mouth with my crusty shit still stuck on their lips.
She cheated on you. It hurts and it sucks, learn from it and be grateful that you can cut her off and look for a more deserving woman.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
This demonstrates why a man should be his woman's Darkest Sexual Chapter. Let her get her kinks out WITH YOU.
pbar 5y ago
Worse, afterwards they probably laid in bed together and WATCHED YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOW, that one you always liked to watch with her.
Just think about that, and let the hate flow through you.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Yeah, and that necklace? She wrapped it around his dick while she blew him, then laughed when she told the dude about the faggot that gave it to her.
pbar 5y ago
You know, that actually is exactly the kind of thing women enjoy doing. I had a girl come to my place (this was many years ago) with a love letter another guy had written her. She read it to me, and we both laughed our asses off, and then she tore it to shreds, and kneeled amid the pieces and gave me a sweet blowjob.
I thought it was funny as shit. But I imagine other women have done the same thing with my love letters, and that ain't funny at all, that's just pure evil and there's no excuse for it.
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Bro, come on.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
Da fuq do you think happened? They held hands? The reality of what happened is extremely harsh, but it happened. Coddling doesn't work with TRP.
besantos10 5y ago
It doesn't and it's not what I needed, this comment helped me.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
If he was thinking - hey maybe I'll get back together with her, then sure, go for shock.
But you just want to move on? I don't see any reason to rub it in.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
I disagree. His saying that will prevent any oneitis or looking back and making excuses for her behavior. She did what she did WILLINGLY and INTENTIONALLY. One he digests what she did, he won't be inclined to look back.
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DeGENZerate 5y ago
What do you mean come on? I just fed him straight reality, got him emotionaly rattled to make a change, and you come in to nuke the thread! What's your goal RPS
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
He's in rough shape and you make a 3 paragraph graphic fucking porno to highlight that she's gonna slut it up.
Read the room dude.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
If you had read the room before removing everything you would have seen that not only did I have majority support, but also he came around to accept the graphic simulacra (which didn't break any rules). I emotionally stimulated him to take action and you just negatively reinforced it against the will of everyone involved.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I'll reverse it because he seems to be taking it in stride, but I still think it was bad taste. Dude already knew she cheated on him.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
I don't know what your "tastes" are but my taste is for pulling him out of his abyss.
His words:
I have never been graphic on TRP before but the closer he gets to the disguisting reality of the situation the more likely he is to radicalize away from his soft blue pill idealism. If I need to write some gross things to make that happen, I will do what it takes. Just leave my writing alone and tell Red Pill Pike to explain his threats on my comment from the other day. I don't think hes as honorable as you.
That being said, thank you for doing what's right
besantos10 5y ago
Holy fuck dude you gotta kick me while I'm down?
I doubt she did all that stuff from what I got from what she said, but still man holy fuck.
Edit:
Actually, nevermind you're probably right. Would explain that weird fucking grin on her face.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Even though you edited, she did everything we all have mentioned here, and more.
Plus, stop being a faggot "...You gotta kick me while I'm down????"' Bitch.
TheScarletScholar 5y ago
You have to realize, in a way that may seem fucked up, that he is helping you. You need to know what women are capable of, for your own well being. The hope is that after this experience you won't make the same mistake twice. Generally the more painful the experience, the more change and growth that occurs.
I understand this is a very painful time, but try to eventually adopt the perspective that this experience will lead you to a better future. What if you got married with 4 kids and then you walked in on her getting gangbanged in your own bed? Trust me, it can always be worse.
Edit do NOT fucking meet up with her again. You will thank yourself later. She's literally reveling in your demise. She smiled when she told you something she knew would crush you. For God's sake man.
DIARRHEA_EXORCISM 5y ago
The moment this theory struck and felt like a branding iron to my brain was when someone said "she's not laying looking up at the stars thinking about you while she has another dick in her mouth". It's stuff that needs to be said. Everyone says "she cheated on me" it's just words. You need to realize she physically exchanged bodily fluids with a stranger which is complete disrespect to the man in question along with his dignity and health. She grinned because she probably was downplaying it as just one guy when it was probably multiple guys. For her it was easier to tell as "yes I hooked up" compared to the much crazier shit they likely went on. She downplayed it
besantos10 5y ago
Yeah, fuck sorry. You're right that was fucking stupid. Just still hung up on her and wanted to see her. But you're right that was fucking stupid.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
That's the whole fucking reason that we're telling you what she did with the other dude. You think we're joking, but, there is no joke to it. She did all of this, and more. You are judging her actions by YOUR standards. You wouldn't fuck another guys girlfriend up the ass then make her suck your dick as soon as you pull out-but, the guy she fucked isn't you, and she behaved with him in a way she would NEVER behave with you. Once you realize this, your hurt should turn to anger/contempt.
TheScarletScholar 5y ago
Nah it's not stupid, a lot of people who haven't heard of TRP would probably tell you it's a good idea. I mean from reading your comments it sounds like you wanna just hook up with her or something? I'm not sure what your mental/ emotional state is rn but I don't think it's a good idea.
Think of it this way, any more contact, time, or thought you give her are valuable resources you're wasting to validate her. She fucked you over. If one of your buddies did something as shitty as that to you would you think twice about dropping them? Fuck no. Your attraction and illusion of a bond with her is clouding your logic right now.
besantos10 5y ago
It really is. Good thing I came here to get some sense knocked into me.
Canceled the lunch, deleted our WhatsApp chat that had more than 40,000 messages on it. Took a while to delete. Images, nudes(those hurt to delete), and everything else.
TheScarletScholar 5y ago
Good work man. That will certainly help the process of letting go. You'll be fine buddy. Nobody should let a speed bump end their journey.
besantos10 5y ago
Definitely will do. Especially after this thread. Fucking great I'll come back to read some of this stuff whenever I need it.
Thanks again, man. You and this entire thread helped me so fucking much.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
Imagine the look of satisfaction on her face as she got pleasured by a foriegner. Thats your girl
besantos10 5y ago
Hahaha, she actually cheated on me with one the kids from her uni, so some white boy.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
You are Brazilian.
My point stands.
dulkemaru51 5y ago
He is, but she and the cheating partner are both American
aDrunkenWhaler 5y ago
I would bet money she planned to fuck him and break up with you before the plane tickets were bought. In fact, I'm quite convinced she was very annoyed when you told her you will go to HK as well.
besantos10 5y ago
I doubt much of this. She went through much trouble to convince me to come, she even found the school I'm currently studying at(it's fucking awesome btw really grateful she did) when I said i couldn't go because of the bad engineering offered by our school there. She went pretty out of her way to convince me so idk.
Also no one in the group knew each other before going. But I know she made the decision 1 week into the trip.
aDrunkenWhaler 5y ago
Maybe she wanted you to come as a backup. Maybe she went out of her way to help to prove to herself that she is a good person that tried everything to make things work. A lot of maybes. But what I'm saying is that her subconcious already knew she wanted to branch swing, long before. Once she had a good dicking, she saw you as a loser, and wanted you out. Make no mistakes, she is having the time of her life now, and doesn't think of you for a second.
besantos10 5y ago
Some of what you said was true but not all.
This maybe.
Read my update, from my interaction with her tonight it does not seem like that.
She came to me to talk to me. I didn't go to her.
She resented me for not being open with her. But the words in this thread kept cycling in my head so I held frame and didn't fucking flinch.
Also I met the guy she cheated on me with tonight and it was fucking great. Guy was definitely not the fucking alpha everyone here was telling me he was and just goes to show that she was just going to do that with anyone.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Point is to just drive it into you that any of that shit was possible and may have happened. But you know that.
besantos10 5y ago
I do. Good thing too, get's worse before it get's better kind of deal.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Fuck a dude before she does.
besantos10 5y ago
Fucking the dude she cheated on me with.
Alpha or not? ????
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
As long as he’s the bottom, it’s like mega alpha
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Don't say this; he'll believe you.
supermario218 5y ago
If you get with a woman when she is young, and she stays faithful to you, she will resent you later for it. After she hits the wall. She will feel like she waisted her best years on you when she could have been hooking up with lots of guys. It's amazing isn't it? They don't value quality, they value quantity. But only for fuck boys. For the guys she settles with (notice the key word there) suddenly she has insane quality control concerns.
besantos10 5y ago
Man, I was blind enough that I probably would have stayed with her even after she hit the wall.
My redpilled 16-year-old self would be very pissed with what I've done in this ltr.
Honestly, comment after comment makes me relieved that this happened.
bikermonk 5y ago
Indian. Met a traveling solo girl from USA, offered her to come along for a pretty intense cricket match me and my friends were set to play.
Gave her a fun filled day and a few drinks, in return me and three friends of mine got hours of rough sex and rimming.
All this while her boyfriend's calls we're throwing the phone off the table. She screamed at him in the morning for bothering her while she was down with infection and "sleeping "
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saltyafrican 5y ago
As an expat in HK, I will tell you not to worry at all! I know a group of guys from El Salvador and Honduras and they are constantly getting laid.
alienus 5y ago
This is profoundly different from just 'thinking' something is wrong. I learned to trust my gut the hard way. That is to say, not when I had diarrhea, but when it came to being oblivious to a relationship ending suddenly.
This was when i was 17, dutchman, and the long distance relationship I had with a Swedish girl ended when she went to study in New Zealand for half a year. (She met a New-Zealander there, he moved to Sweden, he cheated on her, and he is now married with a different Swedish woman). That said she is and was open about it and I could tell she waited to get together with him properly until after she informed me.
But hey, at least I learned a valuable life lesson and can properly order kötbullar med potatis och lyngonsylt at IKEA.
Relationships are difficult when people are still young, but it's vitally important to understand that the person you are with is a decent person.
Only gut feeling (and the absence of red flags) can tell you that. I still think back to my time with her and how formative it was for me as an adult to have had that relationship at that age. (I am a typical nerd, quietest person in class- well, I was!)
ozaku7 5y ago
So you meet on a trip, where you wouldn't really look for a partner but a vacation fling. Then you are long distance, which is romantic but otherwise total shit. Then you get together, fine, but again apart.
I mean, this relationship is a pain in the was, you're both incels at this point and it's no wonder she just wants to enjoy life and not be in a place where she cannot fuck her boyfriend or anyone else.
AWALT indeed /s
Why waste your years waiting for someone for so long and get paid only once a month tops while your friends are banging it away with their hookups and partners. Must have been terrible for her. But okay for you since she's the only thing you could get.
besantos10 5y ago
Dude, I don't know where you got the impression of any of that.
When we left our trip both of us thought it was over and we were never going to see each other again. But then we started texting, and then we planned for her to come over to Brazil, then three months later she comes to Brazil at which point we are only 8 months away from me going to America. At this point I had been hooking up with other girls as we were only keeping in touch.
So with me going to America so soon, we say wtf why not let's give it a shot. So we did a serious long distance with me asking for a hall pass here and there.
And for the past year and a half I was having a lot more sex than that, my sophomore year we were having sex prob 4-5 times a week and last semester it was more than 7. Idk if you ever had an ltr while living with a girl in your teens but it kinda works like that.
And she's not the only thing I could get, nor was I the only thing she could get, we were just really into each other and wanted to be together. Which I now realize we were too young to do.
And she was only at a place where she couldn't fuck me or anyone else for two weeks, after that, we had an entire semester of fun lined up. Trips all over southeast Asia, Japan, and etc. She flushed that all down the toilet because god knows why.
But now I just planned those trips with some bros and I'm thinking it'll be a fun time.
ozaku7 5y ago
So first you get serious, then you get a hall pass several times and you dare to post about AWALT when she hooks up with one guy?
Boo-boo, you had your cake and she wanted to have a piece of it too.
Haha, you're such a moron.
besantos10 5y ago
The hallpasses we're spring 2016, and I offered her the same even though she passed on them.
Since then we've been mostly straight. For 3 years.
The AWALT comes from the fact that she always insisted that she was the most loyal girl ever and would never do what she did.
So she went from a self-pronounced NAWALT example to a perfect AWALT example.
The worst isn't even that, is that we talked and were 100% straight before she went on those two weeks that it was business as usual and I would see her as my girlfriend for our semester together.
Then out of nowhere she drops this out of character bomb on me and says she wants to explore. Completely changing the narrative she always maintained.
This is a perfect AWALT.
I honestly don't understand why you're so bitter.
I acted fair, upfront and honest as fuck. While she was misleading and deceiving. Honestly, those two might not apply because she might have meant what she said before, but was just too ignorant of her own nature.
ozaku7 5y ago
Honestly, only women who don't care enough about you give in to any hall passes.
It's simple, you had your fun, now she wanted to have a piece of that fun back to make the score even.
I mean, she can because you did, all fair from her side honestly, because everyone knows that hookups have no expiration date.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
Dude, you're a retard. They moved in together. Just STFU already.
ozaku7 5y ago
Then they separated yet again. Lol. What a relationship. Tons of chick to choose from and he picks the one on another continent.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
You seem jealous and bitter.
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cafeitalia 5y ago
Frame keeps women in check and on a short leash, lack of frame make them women as the are.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Frame means nothing when she’s in a different country mate. That’s why you have a backup plan and are never reliant on her
suxxos 5y ago
Maybe you're just bad at sex?
omega_dawg93 5y ago
focus on your studies and upcoming career.
never catch one-itis again.
you guys are too young to be stuck on one broad who can't control her coffee bean and doesn't know what she wants.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
"She's always been a super sweet and nice girl who everybody always says is an angel."
"With the biggest shit eating grin"
It seems you may have encountered a nice narcissist. First of all, if someone is so nice it's hard to believe it's a red flag they may be a covert or nice narcissist. Second of all, narcissists of all kinds take joy in the power they have over their victims. That grin was her taking satisfaction in your mental anguish. She may have been thinking about how pathetic and weak you were and it made her feel superior.
Thankfully for you she has moved onto another source of supply.
I wouldn't spend another second thinking about her. She probably would enjoy it if you spent 6 months ruminating on the relationship and what really was happening and whether you could've done something differently. The answer is that you are lucky you got out when you did. What if you married her and had kids and then she felt entitled to sleep around because women don't live enough?
You may wish to get tested just to put it behind you. I doubt she did other cheating from what you described but it may be good to be safe. Also, it's not worth the time and energy even thinking about it.
The best way to deal with a narc is to go no contact. Assuming she is one you are probably in the discard phase so she won't be looking for your attention. But if she does reach out it's because she is looking for another source of supply.
I really have no idea what guys are supposed to do about AWALT. We used to have socially enforced monogamy. When women think that they can discard men at any point then commitment means nothing. It seems to me that women are only good for a pump and dump and it's foolish to develop attachment to them.
I'm linking a couple YouTube vids as they have helped me gain an understanding of myself as well as the covert narcs in my life.
I'm not saying that your ex is definitely a covert narcissist. I'm saying she may be. I think people should learn more about narcissism in general because they are everywhere. (At least they are in the legal field where I work.). I always thought that people were like me and wanted to be fair and honest so learning about narcissism has helped me understand what people are thinking and how they want to manipulate me.
Some basics:
https://youtu.be/3an9crV9feM
This next one explains what the narcissist's smirk means. I think your ex's shit eating grin can be similarly explained, that she was taking pleasure in dumping you.
https://youtu.be/82GDLpLUlNc
besantos10 5y ago
You are right. So much of what you said rings true and the first video(still have to check on the second one) seems to be right too.
I was still chit-chatting with her until this sub convinced me to completely cut it off with her so I deleted her number.
But like you said, and I can now see, she would want nothing more than for me to be stuck on her and not be able to move on. Which is what I was doing by still chit-chatting with her.
And seeing this she was definitely a covert narc. Acting always kind and as if she needed help and nurturing. Always behaving as if I was her white knight and that she would be lost without me. But then she completely flipped and revealed her true self.
Really though period but it'll get easier each day.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
My strongest advice to you and what I wished I learned 20 years ago is that men need to self-validate. Do not go out seeking validation from other people. Do what you want to do in life. When you get good at something you will get external validation from that. But seeking validation from women is the way to lose your mind because they are not honest.
You are single and that means you are completely free. I think you said you're an engineer and the fact you got into this program shows what kind of ability you have. Throw yourself into your work. You literally have your whole life ahead of you. Save your money. Avoid debt. Invest in the stock market.
If you do decide to pursue women remember that it is a power struggle. If you get attached she will get the upper hand because women don't love like men.
Good luck to you you're lucky to be where you are in life.
Hard_Rain_Falling 5y ago
Yeah, girls that travel a lot are more like that. A girl with roots is more loyal.
_lifesgood_ 5y ago
Good job on getting through this "phase" out sooner and self-reflecting on it by making this thread. A girl who actually valued you wouldn't have done something like this so you dodged a bullet. And I've read some replies from you and I'm glad you realized how you were sort of stalling in life. That stall just objectively would have been a reason for her being "bored" or having you as her fallback rather than her priority especially since she's a "travel girl" and those girls think about themselves a lot more than others.
Again, she doesn't owe you anything, you dont owe her anything, is she a shit bag? Yes. But you deserve better and you know that. Get out there and build yourself up to the point where you know she cant do better than you, your life will be so much easier.
Bruchibre 5y ago
You married her right?
Stupid, exploring dicks? Yeah Chad loves the concept.
besantos10 5y ago
I was about marriage earlier in my life, early teens, but in my later teens I decided that it wasn't right for me.
Yeah, I've run into some girls with the "exploring dicks" mentality and fucked one of them since we broke it off.
It was fun but I still have that Unicorn mentality at the back of my head. Which I'll hopefully get rid of sooner rather than later.
Bruchibre 5y ago
If I understand properly you are in HK for exchange now so you should have opportunities to bang more chicks, the more you will the further away the unicorn mentality will be.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Bro the reason she left you isn't because she wanted to explore yada yada. Just look at yourself for a moment. What I can get from this post is that you're pretty salty over her dumping you. That's the whole problem here, lack of abundance and confidence. She dumped you because she found out someone more alpha was willing to fuck her. Simply monkey branching her way out..
Anyway, you don't know this yet but soon you will realize she did you a favor.
besantos10 5y ago
I already do and I'm internalizing it.
When we met I was that alpha, lean, with plenty of dread game, but I grew complacent over the ltr.
Just happy she did this now and not later.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
No, you did it to yourself.
Girlfriend leaves, you do your stuff. You kept texting her instead.
This post of yours, she, she, she... what are your plans for YOU, mate?
FINDTHESUN 5y ago
How easily they can do that is what really surprises me. But then any kind of a LTR requires strong ethics, moral values, selfless commitment, discipline and self-control. A mature individual could do that. But we humans are far from that.
peaceful_strong_man 5y ago
Lesson: If you have an unnatural relationship (where you are not the provider and husband - i.e. house owner and rightful, sole partner), you can forget having a normal dynamic. Long distance "relationships" dont work. Women need a provider and protector. If you are not around and they dont rely on you, you dont bring that to the table.
mr-satan 5y ago
100%.
Women ain’t shit without a strong man.
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besantos10 5y ago
I agree with most what you said.
I actually think her grin was her getting off on how much she was fucking with me. Like she was getting off on making me feel like shit.
Probably a mixture of both.
Hahaha i definitely will, she has a friend that showed some interest in me in the past and that might be the perfect place to try it out.
eccentricrealist 5y ago
You'll be way better off in the future, keep focus on school mate
besantos10 5y ago
Absolutely right.
I had lost focus of what's important and this puts things into perspective.
Loban8990 5y ago
Like the song says. These hoes ain't loyal. Why bother waste your time dating them. It dosent matter how good you are to them, woman are like gamers.........constantly looking for the next best thing.
dnheeey 5y ago
Amen! Stay away from the amatuers. A pro will do the job and then they leave. And remember, the leaving is what you're paying for.
pre-death 5y ago
lol gf? Have you even read the bitch-management guide on the sidebar? You reaped what you sowed, mate.
besantos10 5y ago
I had but a few years ago and I lost sight of the TRP mentality.
I'm getting back into it with some theory reading.
TruthSeekingPerson 5y ago
The problem with even pump and dump is that eventually you'll develop feelings for one of them. Unless you're a sociopath. That's why men today are in a Catch-22. It used to be society enforced monogamy now society encourages women to be whores and divorce even benefits them financially. And women that ride the cock carousel can't pair bond so really there's nothing holding relationships together anymore.
Just be glad she moved on so you're not stuck supporting her in her late thirties and forties.
EdmondDantes777 5y ago
This is the part I don't get. Are they smiling just getting off on the drama and seeing the man they claim to love become miserable?
Is it a guilt smile, or a smile of joy?
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re4d3 5y ago
You all are swimming against the stream. Woman is designed to be fucked, get pregnant and care for kids and family. Your fucking her to no end is like starting a car in garage and running the engine with no speed engaged. No wonder she gets unconsciously suspect you are infertile and to solve this dilemma, she samples another dicks in her quest to fulfill her biological role - giving a birth to kids. You then cry awalt and your turn, but you all doing it wrong.
besantos10 5y ago
Well she was on the pill and given that especially now she's on the dick carousel I doubt she'll want kids(I'm 20 she's 19)
Honestly idk if I'm being blue pill with this but my impression is that most girls under 25 don't want to get pregnant and just want dick. The latter I just found out recently.
poshmarkedbudu 5y ago
Dude, don't bother with relationships at your age. Just keep working on school and career. Sure, bang some broads along the way but do not...I REPEAT...do not get into a relationship right now. Wait until you're 30. Trust me. Read The Rational Male.
besantos10 5y ago
I did. Want to know the biggest irony of it all?
I was reading the Rational Male in 2015 while backpacking in China. When I met her..... It was part of the reason my fat kid self in a fit teenagers body had the game to pull a girl I wouldn't have before.
I had just lost a bunch of weight and so my self-esteem was still catching up. So this one girl showered me with attention and love and my 16-year-old self fell hook, line, and sinker.
But you are absolutely right. After this redpill suppository, I definitely agree with you and see things clearer. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say.
Maybe I should pick it back up.
CaptainLordLevel 5y ago
So you are saying we should get all the chicks pregnant all the time? Yeah, that sounds like solid advice to me.
re4d3 5y ago
Sure not. But do not expect to keep them forever in ldrs, ltrs or whatever relations.
poshmarkedbudu 5y ago
Look, I'm not saying be stupid. I was simply saying if you must, have some fun.
Be cautious. Wrap it up. Always take care of yourself first and foremost.
If you decide that it's worth the risk to have interactions with women then do so with the understanding of those risks. We all know what they are.
Just don't get into a relationship at this stage in your life.
CaptainLordLevel 5y ago
I was actually replying to Re4d3. I agree with what you said.
darkstar1031 5y ago
The fuck outta here with that blue pilled tripe.
How are people who post on here consistently surprised by this behavior? AWALT means AWALT. All of them. She isn't the exception. She isn't yours it's just your turn. Plenty more where she came from.
redpect 5y ago
I mean, you started with her in a backpacking trip, and i asumme you fucked her, why did you think you were special?
Is like trying to have a LTR with a Tinder Girl and thinking "oh, she never would do that"
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We're not special, you're not special, there is little competition in the current marketplace but the right guy in the right scenario will fuck the utmost loyal of girls. So if you were able to fuck her, others can too.
¿The solution? Reframe your goals with vagina people. You want to fuck, okay, you want the warmth, the softness, even the apparent fragility of their minds, okay. But for the eternal despair that comes with life, better quench it with a good group of male friends.
besantos10 5y ago
Man did you read the post.
We met in 2015 in a backpacking trip, chatted a while after that, and started dating seriously in 2016 living together my sophomore and junior year. The backpacking trip was just the context we met.
But you're right. I'm not special, the right guy with fuck the utmost loyal girls.
I'm fucking ashamed I didn't realize this before.
Stink-Finger 5y ago
Many, many mistakes made here.
besantos10 5y ago
Very many.
But I'm young and a swift kick in the ass might have been what I needed to learn.
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tada1234554321 5y ago
Fuck oneitis. It's the worst shit ever. I had similar experience with the "love of my life". Families knew each other. She went on Erasmus and fucked a guy.
besantos10 5y ago
I didn't mention it because I was too fucking embarrassed but her entire family was actually with my family in my home country for new years.
I took them to a bunch of VERY nice places(they footed the bill so I got that at least lol) and took them around my home town.
Her sister got sick and my parents helped her see the best fucking doctor arguably in the country.
Crixusgannicus 5y ago
1 You're Brazilian
2 Presumably you have, have had and or will have access to Brazilian chicks
3 Bonus. You ALREADY speak Portuguese.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
"We need to talk" = "YOU need to listen"
No thanks! NEXT!!!
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
WanderluSt......WanderSlut
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McVaghunter 5y ago
I can't believe that in The Red Pill, a place to Discuss sexual strategy, most posters are blaming this girl for enjoying her sexual life. Let me remind you that they "did a year of long distance", and we all here know that the man who spends one year jacking off is a low SMV man who do not have any other option whatsoever. And while she had the possibility of getting dick every single day during that year and she probably did, she at least had the decency of lying to him out of respect and telling him that she was loyal during that long distance bullshit year. And now everyone in TRP is losing their shit just because this girl is saying 3.5 years of pretending is enough!
YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE, and a healthy sexual strategy is to get laid every single day if possible and you can bet your sorry ass I'm never sacrificing not even a week let alone a year of my remaining days jacking off just to honor some long distance agreement. The hell I will.
She's not yours, it's just your turn not only AWALT but ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE OPTIONS ARE LIKE THAT. LTRs and monogamy are for the low SMV man and should never be encouraged in TRP.
besantos10 5y ago
I don't think you get the story.
We didn't actually do long distance for a year. We chatted the semester after the summer, at which point I was still getting with girls.
Then at the end of the semester with only 8 months to go until I go to America we decide to give it a try. Throughout that long distance semester she gives me hallpasses and I get with other girls, and I offer her the same even though she refuses.
But this was only until fall 2016 when we closed the gap. Ever since then we have been pretty much living together.
And she cheated on me while we were only two weeks apart after which we were going to pretty much live together again.
So nothing of what you said is true.
Even the part about people encouraging me. I suggest you read some of the comments but people have been shitting on me a lot for engaging in this LTR.
Also, this has nothing to do with SMV, I managed to get with a pretty hot girl(9 face 7 body), not 4 days after breaking up while I was still rusty as fuck and feeling like shit.
I fucked up big time in many ways but none of you said makes sense.