https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtDaP18OGfw
Background
There's a new HBO documentary out about Elizabeth Holmes. For those of you who don't know, she was an entrepreneur who created Theranos, a company that said it could deliver cheap at home blood tests on a single automated machine. In the end it was revealed to be a massive fraud, people's lives ruined, lots of prosecutions, yada yada yada.
Body
That's not what I really want to talk about today, though the details of the fraud are interesting. If you watch the documentary, they spend a great deal of time talking about how she took everyone in and deceived them. Countless men are interviewed saying how they had no inkling she was lying and she seemed completely sincere in how she sold the company and wanted to help people. At one point they even bring in a behavioral economist to explain how people can convince themselves that they are telling the truth if they believe it's for a good cause (cough cough, Adam Schiff).
As a red piller, you will see something completely different than everyone else who watches this documentary. The first thing you will notice is that this woman is without a doubt a nutjob. She has crazy bug eyes, a weird smile and facial expressions, and a fake voice. Within 10 seconds of seeing her and hearing her talk, my hind-brain started screaming "RUN AWAY," as I'm sure all of yours will. I would not go on a second date with this woman, much less give her $900 million to run a company.
So how does your average red piller see a nutjob and everyone else sees a strong independent wamen? The explanation is a bunch of beta bitch Silicon Valley investors were quite simply taken in by her magical pussy. A barely cute HB5.5 sold them a bunch of bullshit and they handed her money. They couldn't see what was obvious because vagina.
There is another angle to this as well. As much as I just got done telling you that she is a psycho bitch (she is), in a lot of ways... she's also kind of just a normal woman. The way she lies does not seem to jive with the way I've seen a lot of other male con artists lie. Those guys seem to have something wrong with their brains, a missing piece that tells them "This is a lie. Don't say this, or at least think of the consequences before you say this."
With Elizabeth though, you get the sense that she actually believes the things she is saying (they go into this a lot actually, but there is no female specific spin on it of course). The truth is malleable. The truth is whatever makes her feel good in the moment. She's not lying, she's just a woman who likes good feelings. A lot of the people interviewed said that they think she really was sincere in wanting to help people. Yes she was nuts. No she was not a cold blooded psychopath out to steal everyone's money. This is why I say take to feminists, both radical and mainstream, at their word. They are not internally nefarious, plotting the downfall of men. They absolutely believe that women are oppressed and that they are doing the right thing.
Finally, you will get a sense from watching her that she is 10 years old and this whole thing is a big tea party with her dolls. She is playing dress up. She is playing a part. She doesn't actually have any... how do I describe it... internal self? She is just an empty vessel into which various ideas, behaviors, and mannerisms have been breathed. Men emulate other great men and try to learn from them of course, but everything about Elizabeth is just some external force that she has internalized.
Although she is an extreme example, this squares pretty well with what we know about women. They don't have much internal ballast or self. They are the sum of the influences around them. This was evolutionarily beneficial for them in the distant past (war brides theory).
Edit: Forgot to mention... she was secretly dating/fucking the number two guy of the company, a goofy looking Indian guy 20 years her senior. They did not tell the investors this. He seems to be in a lot of ways her "attack dog" at the company. This guy was the ultimate white knight. He loyally did his mistress's bidding while she committed massive fraud for a few morsels of pussy. You could not make this shit up.
TLDR
Obviously psycho woman defrauds investors of $900 million. World is baffled by her behavior and wonders what went wrong. Red pillers are baffled that everyone else is baffled.
TheUnsteadyDonut 5y ago
"They absolutely believe that women are oppressed and that they are doing the right thing."
This is really what hit me. Never though about it this way. Thanks for sharing, man.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Also remember that credible scientists, not Bill Nye, but actual scientists with PhD's doing research in prestigious universities, were crucified by MSM, feminists, and beta soyboys for showing criticism. These scientists were labelled "misogynists" for asking questions.
Ket-Gang 5y ago
Could you possibly link to any of those if you have the time? I love to chuckle at tards.
moonchildcountrygirl 5y ago
Not the article they were referring to but still surreal
EM6666 5y ago
From various articles and videos, it was immediately obvious to me, that they invested in her as a symbol. They wanted so much to prove that women were just as good as men, that they waived all the due diligence. It was a massive virtue signal.
krunchtimer 5y ago
TBH, I kinda wanted Theranos to succeed because it seemed like a cool idea to do these quick and easy blood tests (it was around the time 23andMe was getting big too). I could care less about the Girl Power angle. Once it all fell apart, it came out that traditional blood testing labs had known for decades that you can't get a good blood test from a simple finger prick. They had already been down that road. But she had managed to fool so many people into thinking it could suddenly work.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
So even though she was lying about what she was doing with millions of dollars of investors money, she's totally sincere about wanting to help people? By faking their test results?
People are so naive.
The-Peter-Principle 5y ago
Probably a “fair bit” of post-hoc rationalization on their part rather than naïveté...
Rodion-Raskolnikov 5y ago
I saw this documentary. What struck me was how people were falling over themselves to give her money BECAUSE she was female... it feeds the narrative of showing that women can do tech etc. Also, you’re right. My hind-brain too immediately started throwing up red flags as soon as she started talking. Definitely a sociopath.
curiouschipmunk1010 5y ago
I can't believe people would give women money just because they are women, outrageous I tell you.
destraht 5y ago
ZIRP buys the big boys a lot of play room. The bigger you go the easier it is to get close to the Federal Reserve primary dealers where money materializes out of now where.
lala_xyyz 5y ago
A piece of investing advice: short any tech company with a female CEO.
Ivan_The_Reddish 5y ago
Hillary Clinton. She reminds you of Hillary Clinton.
tunsku 5y ago
She donated to the Hillary campaign in 2008.
Hjalmbere 5y ago
Elizabeth Holmes is a textbook psychopath. Recommended reading: Snakes in Suits
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Imperator_Red 5y ago
That's false. She has been indicted on federal fraud charges and more indictments are probably coming.
SeasonedRP 5y ago
I stand corrected and delete my remarks. When I last read about the situation, which was longer ago than I thought, she hadn't been indicted and investors were wondering why the U.S. Attorney wasn't doing anything like in other similar situations.
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bakamoney 5y ago
Eh lots of people get scammed everyday from very simple shot.
GAndGMethod 5y ago
she is an amazing women to study for game.
I have been studying her and writing my own thoughts on her and how to steal her game and add it to myself.
beginner_ 5y ago
Her "game" was simply to lie and lie and lie and it is simply one of many stories of how far you can get if you are bold enough to lie without remorse. You will eventually fall however.
In this case as is implied it got so far because she herself thought she was telling the truth. I suspect the investors are good at judging people but that only works if the people getting judged are sane. Also Silicon Valley is about IT and theoretically you can achieve a lot by programming and software, all it take is a lot of money and time. So fake it till you make it works somewhat well. The iPhone is ultimately hardware to sell their real product, the software. With theranos it was exact opposite. And if the hardware is physically impossible to make, fake it will only get you so far.
p3n1x 5y ago
Uh... Do you have a vagina? If not, you aren't stealing her game.
BobbyPeru 5y ago
Yes, fucking the CEO is number one note
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Yea this is not the takeaway I was going for... but you do you buddy.
FREECRACK6 5y ago
Like what? How can this be applied in game?
Imperator_Red 5y ago
I don't think he knows what game is.
GAndGMethod 5y ago
Game is persuasion for you low i.q simpletons.
Game is sells, game is interrogations, game is seduction, game is marketing, game is gathering investors, game is pimping, game is any thing that requires you to get investment and compliance from another person.
So its you who actually doesn't know what game is.
If you think game is just about women you are uninformed.
zyqkvx 5y ago
I understood what you meant, but what game can you learn from her? The only lesson I see is audacity, but I already know that one. Also "The big lie" (google it) game, not my style and not too useful. The rest of it seems to be un-game, nothing.
andreas-mgtow 5y ago
Game is directed strategy and contigency planning towards a goal.
Game for MEN: The Art of War by Sun Tzu
Women have NO game (or need of). They have vaginas, and legions of WKs and BP cucks at the ready.
FREECRACK6 5y ago
Thats why I asked. What did you learn from the crazy bitch?
tyronethejabrone 5y ago
Anyone who is not upvoting this is blind
Imperator_Red 5y ago
You are a fucking moron.
MatrixofLe3adership 5y ago
Trust your gut, use common sense, and don't give the psychos more than a second's worth of your headspace.
Serj_Buketov 5y ago
You are making it sound as if you would see real her, if you had a chance to do so. It's very easy to judge after the event took place.
What makes you think that you are smarter than all those millionaires?
What kind of unique insight into human character do you posses, that none of us do?
Lol, it's like saying 'as a nofapper I see that she was fraud'.
beginner_ 5y ago
Only invest in what you understand - Warren Buffet
It's clear that neither the investors nor board members actually understood the market and especially not the physical, medical and engineering constraints of lab tests.
Serj_Buketov 5y ago
That's my point, nobody saw that she was a fraud. All those scientists, intellectuals, politicians, inverstors, they did not see that coming. Nobody called her out.
As soon as it turned out that she was fraud, you got all those 'internet experts' breaking down her body language and that bullshit.
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beginner_ 5y ago
I would argue the scientist saw it exactly like that professor(advisor of hers or her own staff. But those people didn't have and influence or power on her. She simply didn't want to hear the truth. That is why she surrounded herself with non-scientist (subconsciously) and other "bullshiters" and "think positive" type of guys that have little clue about actual science of lab tests or engineering needed. I mean just robots alone are highly complex let alone miniaturizing them into a small box with hazardous materials being moved around. I have seen large expensive lab robots not being used because they simply have pretty big limits and are complex as hell. It only ever works if you have a dedicated team in it
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Lol are you fucking with me? Watch 10 seconds of her talking. It's obvious.
Edit: Ah I see. This post is being brigaded hard. This one posts in two X chromosomes.
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tyronethejabrone 5y ago
It’s actually quite the opposite. He literally doesn’t give a shit about appearing to “maintain frame” ... because his “frame” is “maintained”.
You can enter someone’s frame without breaking your own. Bring on the downvotes.
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