The majority of the fitness community thinks that a healthy lifestyle consists of balancing on a Bosu Ball while taking a Jamba Juice cumshot. So I can tell you right now that they are not going to approve of this post. The chubby nutritionist isn't going to approve. The Pilates reformer teacher is going to roll her eyes. The luxury fitness club manager is going to mumble some shit about resistance bands. Real fitness is about forcing your body to adapt to ever higher levels of physical stress. That fact isn't something fitness betas want to be reminded of while they're bouncing on colorful rubber balls trying to relive their childhood.
The modern gym is nothing more than a socially acceptable playground for adults. Most people are there to hurp weights and read magazines on the treadmill. After that they'll meet up with a friend over a 600 calorie latte and bullshit about their workout in an effort to convince themselves that they are not a Fitness Faggot. The easiest way to spot a Fitness Faggot is by their baby hands. Fitness Faggots don't actually lift so instead of calloused Iron Hands of Hatred they have soft silky smooth baby bitch hands. I highly recommend calling out Fitness Faggots. Doing so will increase your testosterone, eases overcrowding in gyms and makes the world a better place.
Now that the Fitness Faggots have fucked off to jumping jacks and bowflex, I can have a serious discussion with real men. If you want to see a dramatic improvement in your physique then you're going to have to make Blood Sacrifices to the Iron Gods. The only thing the fitness Gods reward is suffering. They don't give a fuck about the creativity, variety or trendiness of your workout. They couldn't care less about how many Instagram followers you have or how cool your gym clothes are. The only thing they are going to reward is suffering, pain and misery.
Blood Sacrifice
In order for your body to grow you need to push it to the limit. There are tons of great workout programs out there: 5x5 531 GVT Sheiko Smolov PHAT FST7. It doesn't matter which one you do as long as you inflict a critical amount of stress upon yourself. You have to convince your body that if it doesn't pack on muscle mass its going to be torn apart by bears. Twenty rep squats, bar bending deadlifts and heavy weighted pullups are all rituals mandated by the Iron Gods. A couple of times a week you have to fuck yourself up to such a high degree that you don't know where you are, what your name is or if you are a feminist. Only when the Iron Gods have seen your anguish and tasted your Blood Sacrifice will they bless you with gains.
Animal Sacrifice
The one thing more important than Blood Sacrifice is Animal Sacrifice. If you want to get big, animals of all shapes and sizes have to die in large quantities and find their way into your mouth. Chickens, ducks, lambs, bulls and fish must be slaughtered for the Gods' bloodthurst to be quenched. I know vegans are going to have a problem with this last statement. However one look at 29 year old vegan feminist Alana Massey is enough evidence anyone needs to avoid the nutritional clusterfuck that is vegan-hood.
Why so much meat? Because muscle tissue has all of the nutrients required to repair muscle tissue, in the same way that a ford truck has all the spare parts needed to repair a Ford truck. The fat in meat is a great source of energy for fucking shit up in the gym. Sounds pretty common sense doesn't it? Well it is.
There is nothing that liberals and intellectuals hate more than common sense which is why most nutritionists and health experts will never recommend the consumption of meat unless your on the verge of organ failure. Instead they'll tell you to eat soybeans, whey and nuts for protein. Which are all great foods. However meat absolutely rapes those foods in terms of muscle restoration properties. Woops forgot the trigger warning. Sorry Feminists.
If you don't believe me then you are welcome to try a high meat diet and see for yourself. Arnold and his training partner Ric Drasin ate a high protein, high fat, high cholesterol diet. So you can take their word for it.
That's all the information you need to become a muscle bound testament to toxic masculinity. A high meat diet and a high volume training protocol is guaranteed to appease the Iron Gods and bestow gains upon you. Whether or not you decide to put needles in your butt is your personal choice. But you are required by law to follow me on Twitter.
1234321z 9y ago
Humans are omnivores- in a culture with an over flux of red meat propagating people to eat vegetables would more advantageous.
In a nutritional standpoint- the consensus of eating plant based proteins makes sense because the majority of their clients are fat women who need assistance losing or maintain weight.
Throughout nature it is evident of herbivores living a longer life span than carnivores. The addition of hormones, synthetic pesticides (via consumption of farm wheat) accumulated in meat im; proteins from plants are superior to meat.
Meat from animals are often high in cholesterol, saturated fat and protein. Saturated fats clog arteries and veins and high levels of cholesterol are often related to high blood pressure and there is little scientific evidence suggesting high protein diet being beneficial to building body mass.
reference? I study medicine.
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1234321z 9y ago
Eating meat in excessive portions is unhealthy.Eating two pounds of meat is fine. You think you know more than someone who has dedicated their life towards studying human health? You think you know more than doctors? Hey in fact next time you go to a doctor's appointment I'll make sure he fucks you up.
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OKJaded 9y ago
These bitches drive me up the wall. If you understand nutrition how the fuck did you get so unhealthy? You are your product and your marketing fucking sucks.
GLO You nailed it perfectly. Best source for muscle tissue? Muscle tissue. I'd love to see the breakdown of top level athletes. World Record holders. And what percentage of them are Vegan. Fuck, what about leaders in every field? When they were at their peak, were they vegan/vege?
Oh, and it doesn't count if they did it all in their 30s-40s and switched off meat in their 70s.
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MPRE 9y ago
Hilariously relevant:
http://i.imgur.com/2kvKd8P.jpg
bobbydishes 9y ago
Lift weights, say faggot a bunch.
Got it.
desylid 9y ago
The best lesson to get from this post is to be fun through political incorrectness.
GLO's post did not not reach the top of TPR because he advised to lift weights or because he repeatedly referred to faggots. It's because he is being entertaining and funny. His style works in real life every bit as much as it works on this subreddit.
Let me explain...
It is a myth that blacks are the only group of people who can say "nigger" and be well-received. There is a second group- comedians. Comedians can say whatever they want to and be praised for it. The best comedians are politically incorrect. In fact, I can't think of a single comedian who is straight-laced and politically correct.
Once you have reputation for being funny you don't even have to be funny to have success. I found this post boring as hell. Judging by your dry comment, I'm assuming that you had the same reaction.
But that is the point of this post- be funny. Also lift.
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Rathadin 9y ago
GLO, I applaud this post for the most part, but I don't think intellectuals belong there. Psudeo-intellectuals, sure.
Actual intellectuals, like the ones that actually read scientific journals and science websites, are on the lookout for any good science and will incorporate it into their training regimen as necessary. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19330-muscle-lab-bulk-up-with-the-science-of-bodybuilding.html#.VU4jz_lVhBc
Good on yah for helping TRP get cooking, though. I have a buddy who makes about half what I make and he eats takeaway all the time, then complains about spending so much on food. I understand he spends about 8-10 hours at work each day, but so do I, oftentimes more. "Not having time" is just a bullshit excuse for not cooking.
I can go to Sam's Club and with $300 get enough food for the month, and that's including steak, salmon, chicken breasts, etc.
bobbydishes 9y ago
No.
-Michael Richards
-Gilbert Gottfried
-Paul Mooney
Please, tell me about when a non-black comedian dropped the well received 'n-bomb.'
desylid 9y ago
George Carlin
Louis CK
Joe Rogan has a good clip too on his stand-up on Netflix but I can't find a clip.
Those 'comedians' you listed aren't funny.
bobbydishes 9y ago
I stand corrected.
Nonetheless, they are comedians. I'm just saying that words have consequences. GLO can say whatever he wants. I'm not here to try and stop him. I think he could have used better words and made himself sound a little more intelligent. But hey, whatever. I'm guessing you're a straight white male, right?
throwaway-aa2 9y ago
I'm not a straight white male (dad is black). How about you try that "holier than thou" bullshit on me?
desylid 9y ago
yeah I am a straight, white male. You caught me.
Why does it matter? If the consequence is laughter, then it is mission accomplished.
bobbydishes 9y ago
Of course not. Why would words like that offend you? These words are harmless to you because you've never been called these names by people trying to oppress you.
Edit: grammar
CrazyHorseInvincible 9y ago
I'm sorry, did someone hurt your feelings once? Can I get you a box of tissues? Perhaps a pillow to punch?
Welcome to TRP. Around here, we have a slightly different attitude about people being "offended".
Now, please go and read the sidebar, lurk a bit, absorb some of the local culture.
RICCIedm 9y ago
Very funny as GLO always is, but I think this is terrible advice. No facts, no useful information.
Kai Greene's video documentaries to people who think working out is all about yelling and competing 'who lifts more weights' edit: forgot to post link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1pjY1mDAa8
af505 9y ago
Nah there are plenty of vegan bodybuilders to prove that protein is what's needed not animals.
Here are a bunch of weightlifting pros who are ALL vegan:
(Shitty song on the audio track, but good examples in the video!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83hYTT1o-JY
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyizp74VTw
Also, the following leading medical institutions have noted the harmful effects of eating large quantities of meat (particularly red meat, lessened danger with chicken and fish) and dairy:
Mayo Clinic (http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/meatless-meals/art-20048193). Heart disease, high cholesterol.
Johns Hopkins (http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/10/pancreatic-cancer-meat-causes-it.html). Cancer.
Loma Linda (http://www.llu.edu/public-health/health/vege-cancer.page). Cancer.
Harvard Univ (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein/). Cancer, Osteoporosis, Type 2 Diabetes.
Harvard Univ (http://www.health.harvard.edu/family_health_guide/red-meat-and-colon-cancer). Red meat, increase in cancer.
Take the word of the world's leading scientists, as well as effective bodybuilders mentioned above. Vegan kills it, meat (particularly red meat) kills you. I'm well aware that this is offensive and disruptive to many people who grew up eating meat with family and friends and where meat is an intimate part of their lives. I don't mean to offend; but these are the facts, gotta share.
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JJonesWisco 9y ago
Yes, protein intake is they key. However, those videos above a ripe with juiced up lifters. Steroids plus plant protein are a hell of an effective combo.
sceaduwe 9y ago
And saturated fat is bad for you, salt raises your blood pressure, creatine gives you cancer, and eggs raise your cholesterol.
And they say economics is the dismal science.
According to Examine.com there is a small correlation (not causation) between cancer and meat eating, and this can be mitigated by eating fruits and veggies, and not eating processed meat.
af505 9y ago
you're going with examine.com over johns hopkins, mayo, harvard, and loma linda. you sure youre unplugged bro?
Cyako 9y ago
Thanks for spreading some sound information with actual research to support it.
Whilst I respect that everyone has a choice to eat the foods they desire, we really do live in a society that has been brainwashed to believe animal products are the absolute best at providing all the nutrition we need whilst the many studies (surprisingly, often the ones not funded by the animal/dairy industries) showing the negative effects of meat/dairy/eggs are brushed aside.
I get that GLO has a certain persona and celebrity status to live up to on this sub but this a truly terrible post for most newcomers to the subreddit who won't realise he is somewhat exaggerating - get your one-way tickets to snap city and cancer here, folks.
teamjkforawhile 9y ago
The meat eater hamster is as strong as the one women have. I see so much ridiculous non science based bullshit "advice" on eating meat.
They don't need to worry about hurting the feelings of " liberals and intellectuals", but instead their own delicate feelings apparently.
BannedAlpha 9y ago
Pretty much the best case you can find for meat being healthy is that is "not necessarily causing cancer' or 'not necessarily a lot worse than a plant based diet'. That is your best case scenario.
Worst case would be things that are almost universally accepted by things like the American Cancer Society about the harmful effects of over eating meat.
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R88R 9y ago
Yes, veganism isn't inherently unhealthy. You just need to do your fucking research on diet and fucking lift. I'd argue that the #1 problem with vegans is their mentality: obsession with low calorie/low protein foods, eschewing of traditional bodybuilding macros, non aggressiveness/ femininization of behavior.
I say all this as a vegetarian bro.
af505 9y ago
Points taken. So, I eat vegan. And I'm sad to say that MOST vegans I meet are pussies. Does that mean that veganism is for pussies? No. No it does not. It means that veganism has been hijacked by PETA and hipsters and needs to be taken back by bodybuilders for what it is: the healthiest dietary approach to making mass gains as is possible. And yes someone should definitely research diet needs before jumping headlong into veganism.
erplaint 9y ago
Holy crap! I didn't realize there would be so many PETA-bitches on TRP. I thought it was supposed to teach us how to restore our masculinity in this gynocentric world, yet there seem to be a whole lot of "save the animals" "meat is murder" mentality.
I supposed we're bound to have some leftover crap in our minds even after unplugging but I didn't think it would be of the "meat and cheese is bad, mkay" type.
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af505 9y ago
Fuck PETA. This is science. And real men buy into science, not fairy tales.
2dfx 9y ago
So then, for the aspiring lifter who would want a eating regimen that's high protein/high other things related to gainz that is vegan-centric, where would one go to get ingredient/meal lists?
af505 9y ago
You would need to change your whole diet. The axiom No pain No Gain applies here. Read Forks Over Knives and The China Study for starters. Read what interviews with the bodybuilders I listed above say about their diets. And this guy - http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi
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1003rp 9y ago
Or you can still eat some meat In addition to the foods they eat to get the protein you need with more variety of food choices.
af505 9y ago
Chicken and especially fish are less impacting, but still second rate to the same vitamins and nutrients you can get through a vegan diet. Yes, a vegan diet is foreign to most people and requires study and learning (and unlearning) but nothing good comes easy. Red meat in particular is detrimental to the body. Dairy is even worse than meat. This is basic 101 in science today, but popular? Hell no, not popular.
laere 9y ago
Pretty cool to see a different perspective to be honest. Meat tastes too good to personally give up though!
Cyako 9y ago
Believe me, most vegans/vegetarians thought it was too good to give up at some point in their lives as well!
Out of interest, what aspects of meat taste good for you?
vandaalen 9y ago
The absence of vegetable taste.
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niczar 9y ago
It's a lot more work and a lot less pleasure. You can get enough proteins with a vegan diet, but that means getting a shitloads of carbs as well. On an animal diet, you can sustain remove most carbs and use fats instead. Much, much, much better for most people past a certain age (typically 35).
Obligatory /r/keto plug.
af505 9y ago
I'd love to look like this guy at age 60. He's at only 20% protein on a mainly carb diet. "Protein is overrated" he says.
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi
He is well aware of what others are waking up to in recent years - the meat and dairy empires have brainwashed individuals into fanatical reliance on meat and dairy products that in actuality make you fatter, lethargic, leech calcium, cause kidney stones, lead to higher rates of heart disease, and worst of all have a probability of cancer in men and smaller likelihood of cancer in women. The research is published by all of the leading hospitals and health centers around the world. The bodybuilding world doesn't like veganism because hipsters and PETA-ites have made it a stench, but their hijacking of the diet doesn't make it any less the platinum standard for bodybuilding that it is.
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niczar 9y ago
AHA HA AHHAHAHAH.
Dude. Don't ever go to /r/keto. The cognitive dissonance is going to cause you a brain aneurysm.
Lethargic and fatter. That's a good one.
You sound like you're from bizarro land. Everything's upside down.
Seriously. I lost 20 kg on a ketogenic diet, without the slightest attention to caloric intake. Furthermore high carbs used to give me reactive hypoglycemia, and I suspect many people get that as well. You can't get more lethargic than that. No insulin response = no fattening and no lethargy.
As for the meat and dairy empires ... Well the largest aggro companies in the world are carb based. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Nabisco, Quaker and so on. Meat and dairy are small fry in comparison.
af505 9y ago
Not exactly, those companies are actually 'refined carb' based, not carb based.
The reason your carbs were sending you into hypoglycemia is because you weren't intaking enough fiber with the carbs to facilitate the sugar into your system at a proper rate. Eating almonds, flax seed (ground), chia seed, or strawberries (a few especially effective examples) will mitigate that problem so that your hunger doesn't turn into monster cravings. I subsist easily on 900-1200 cals a day during my cutting phase since I started getting more fiber into my diet. I don't have to deal with the dizzy, faint, clammy, tired, frustrated hypo or hyper effects.
Not bizarro land. It's science man. And science from the leading medical institutions wordwide (Mayo, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Loma Linda, etc.).
aguy01 9y ago
I'm not going to look into each of those guys's history but I know for a fact most 'vegan bodybuilders' built their physique with meat, then switched to vegan and people started using them to support their arguments.
Meat protein has significantly more BCAA than vegetable proteins, and is without any question a better way to build muscle. Doesn't mean you can't get decent results while vegan but you are missing out, end of story. There is an issue with the amount of Methionine in meat being taxing on your liver, but that can be negated with a Glycine/Cystein supplement to help your liver out, or just get the bone collagen into your diet that our ancestors ate.
Edit: Also, many studies look at commercialized red meat, with added hormones and antibiotics, that are fed pesticide ridden grains their whole life. That is a totally different animal than a grass fed, hormone and antibiotic free cow.
rpscrote 9y ago
Not only that, but many cumulative grams of Test
af505 9y ago
It is a little bit better, but only slightly. it's like drinking amonia instead of amonia with rat poison; the results are going to be enough to hit your HARD either way. The cancer causing and heart disease related agents in meat are there whether it is in a McDonald's burger patty, or, a Grade A hormone-free antibiotic-free patty.
aguy01 9y ago
What are these 'cancer causing agents'?
af505 9y ago
Carcenogenic compounds in meat
https://pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/diet-cancer/facts/meat-consumption-and-cancer-risk
and in dairy it is primarily casein
pillpapa 9y ago
I was vegetarian for two years and vegan for about half that time. I wanted to get bigger and stronger so I started doing my research and paying attention to my protein intake.
Getting enough protein via whole foods is nearly impossible. Lentils/split peas are too loaded with starchy carbs (8g protein/100 kCal) and even nuts are mostly fat/carbs (4g protein/100 kCal). For reference, chicken has 19g protein/100 kCal. Soy protein products can have up to 22g/100kCal so that's the route I went. If you are a self respecting man who wants the drive to pursue sex, take risks, and kick ass, do not try this at home. Soy is a testosterone killer.
I'm actually aware of several of the bodybuilders you mentioned. They rely heavily on dietary supplements. Vega One is a super clean protein source that Patrik Baboumian claims to use. $70 dollars of this stuff will get you 360g of protein, the same amount of protein I can get from about $12 of the cleanest, most humanely raised chicken available in my area.
Those who are dedicated and who have deep pockets can kill it despite, not because of, a vegan diet.
af505 9y ago
It's sad that the best diet on the planet is not more readily available to people due to cost, and, lack of information about how to do it right. I have found inexpensive ways to do it (I'm on a budget man, it takes a stretch), and have read a lot to round out my knowledge. The issue is time, not so much expense. Time reading and learning how to do it inexpensively. But everything worthwhile takes time. There arw no shortcuts to a good thing.
Diet - Beans, grains, and your basic apples and oranges are cheap. Greens pack the protein too. I don't eat soy. Nuts are very helpful too.
I'm well acquainted with these bodybuilders I listed too. Check out their eating regime and many of them you'll see do not pack in the overdose of protein that the meat majority recommend. That's because the body does not need that much. You can only absorb 30-40 grams of protein every couple hours; anything over that does nothing for you except to create fat and leech calcium and overtax your kidneys. Here is a dude who's physique I would love to have wheb I'm 60! Avi made his gains and sustains his gains as a vegan. His diet consists of only 20% protein. He says "protein is overrated." Check him out - http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi
rpscrote 9y ago
This is wrong. It's been repeatedly debunked.
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
http://examine.com/faq/how-much-protein-can-i-eat-in-one-sitting/
http://www.doyoueven.com/2014/10/myth-busted-how-many-grams-of-protein-can-your-body-digest-in-one-sitting/
af505 9y ago
find something from a big name univ or medical center (johns hopkins, mayo, harvard, etc)
rpscrote 9y ago
You are claiming you can only 30-40g per sitting. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate your claim.
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rpscrote 9y ago
Good luck getting 1.0g/lb of LBM protein on a vegan diet. Any diet that makes it hard to get protein is a bad diet for muscle building, period. Sure, you can work 10x harder or spend 10x to get the same amount of protein -- i'll stick with something that lets me make my diet a sustainable lifestyle because I've made compliance as painless as possible
Cyako 9y ago
1g/lb of LBM protein on a vegan diet is relatively easy - meat is overrated in terms of the protein it provides. You don't have to work '10x harder' and the vegan diet is FAR cheaper than any diet based around meat so I don't get where you get the idea that it costs 10x more?
rpscrote 9y ago
show me protein that's vegan and cheaper than whey per ounce.
Cyako 9y ago
The rice protein powder I buy now is cheaper than the whey I used to buy, since it's rice instead of dairy I would expect it to be cheaper all across the board as dairy is one of the most expensive food products. Regardless, you save so much money on everyday food going vegan that even if rice protein powder was slightly more expensive you would easily make that money back from eating. On top of that, protein powders should really be a small part of your total intake so I don't entirely understand your focus on that.
niczar 9y ago
Eating rice protein powder vs. eating steak.
One of those things is more appealing than the other, for some reason.
Cyako 9y ago
Oh so you get steak protein powder? Cool.
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RedSunBlue 9y ago
I'll jump right on that vegan/vegetarian train when they start collecting more gold medals, world championships, and title belts than meat eaters.
af505 9y ago
Haha Ok...there are also more people around the world who believe in superstition versus science, are you going to join that majority as well?
RedSunBlue 9y ago
No, because the majority of people in the world are not winners. And the majority of vegans/vegetarians in sports are not winners either.
af505 9y ago
No, your logic in your inital statement was based on what the Majority do.
RedSunBlue 9y ago
Champions are by definition not the majority. They're also not vegetarians.
If vegetarianism/veganism had disproportionate representation in the upper echelons of human performance, I'd consider it.
But they don't. So I won't.
af505 9y ago
This is incorrect. The longest living, healthiest people groups in the world are vegetarian and vegan. The Mayo Clinic along with Thomas Campbell documented this in the best selling book The China Study.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1932100660/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1430954798&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=the+china+study&dpPl=1&dpID=511i1Gp5XJL&ref=plSrch
This book has been championed Johns Hopkins and Harvard Health Institute as well. It's the most comprehensive study on health ever conducted.
In this way, vegans and vegetarians lead the race in human perfoance in the ultimate feat they win at: longevity of life span.
RedSunBlue 9y ago
Okinawans eat pork like pigs killed their ancestors and they live long as anyone.
Try again.
LittleHelperRobot 9y ago
Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1932100660/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1430954798&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=the+china+study&dpPl=1&dpID=511i1Gp5XJL&ref=plSrch
^That's ^why ^I'm ^here, ^I ^don't ^judge ^you. ^PM ^/u/xl0 ^if ^I'm ^causing ^any ^trouble. ^WUT?
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Cyako 9y ago
Most vegetarians/vegans adopt the diet to reduce animal suffering, whereas you seem very fixated on the notion that we expect vegetarians/vegans to be better than meat eaters in competitive sports? No one suggested that eating meat reduces competitive ability, just that it can have long-term negative effects on health.
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RedSunBlue 9y ago
According to your vegan homeboy, vegan/vegetarianism is:
He didn't say in what context. His main post also implies that he believes meat is entirely unnecessary for anything and everything.
Here's the thing, you can point to the China study, someone else can point to a debunking of the China study. None of you are scientists so that's just going to devolve into two apes flinging "no ur wrong" shit at each other.
What I did was point to the pinnacles of human athletic performance and noted that none of them are vegetarians. Also, the rate of cancer development amongst professional athletes seems to be much lower than the average population, even though they're probably consuming more meat than average.
If you want to decrease animal suffering, good on ya. I ain't even playin. I respect that.
But don't try to tell me a vegetarian diet is "just as good" as a omnivorous one full stop when no one on the winner's podium of anything worth a shit got there with tofu and bean sprouts.
Cyako 9y ago
You should check out Carl Lewis, he became vegan in his late twenties and credited "his outstanding 1991 results in part to the vegan diet he adopted in 1990" and then won gold again after his injuries even when he was well into his thirties and on a vegan diet for a number of years.
To clarify, I'm not saying you should become vegan or anything, just that you seem to believe there are no vegetarian - let alone vegan - champions.
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erplaint 9y ago
PETA-bitch spotted! "Meat is murder" type slogans detected. Please stop vaginizing (or is the word "pussifying"?) this sub! It is one of the few places that doesn't believe masculinity is the plague. To pollute it with that feminist-PETA bullshit is just... horror!
Cyako 9y ago
To clarify, you're suggesting that paying someone to bring a sentient life into this world, raise it in an unnatural environment where it is loaded with hormones and often abused, slit it's throat whilst hanging it upside down before chopping it into little pieces, package it nicely to not even look like meat and then sell it to you at a supermarket is masculine? Right.
How about you watch a little bit of this documentary to prove your masculinity?
For the record I'm not a fan of PETA, nice ad hominem though.
erplaint 9y ago
Yep, you're a PETA bitch. Heard all that shitty rhetoric a million times before, doesn't sound any less faggoty now. I've seen those documentaries a million times. That's how meat is harvested. We are humans, we eat meat! And yes, agriculture is masculine, it is what built civilization! Grow a pair and stop polluting this sub with that PETA crap.
PS: I know what your little vegan hugboxes look like, I lurked some of those communities just for the sake of it, simply to see for myself if they are as nutty as people made them out to be. They are. They are, in fact, indistinguishable from other SJW hives.
TRPMackDaddy 9y ago
Couldn't agree more with this 'no pain no gain' post. Made me lol as well, thank you OP
cariboo_j 9y ago
I highly recommend rock climbing to supplement weight training.
It builds grip strength in the tendons of the fingers and forearms that can't be replicated with weight training.
Plus you get the mental training of keeping a cool head in terrifying situations if you go outdoors.
TerriblementeCruel 9y ago
Seeing this title I thought it was going to be about Spartacus TV series. Which, BTW, I highly recommend to my RP fellas. A lot of inspiration and motivation can be found in this series.
And this post is on point as usual. Love your style.
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el_superbeastooo 9y ago
Right on man, well written post. Today was SQ/OHP/DL day (doing 5x5) and I was in the gym resting between some rough Squat sets when I read this. It was the kick in the ass I needed.
London-Bananas 9y ago
Also don't get too excited after season one. Sadly, the main actor died of cancer when season two was being made.
The show continued with a prequel that was pretty cool, and a sequel with a lookalike that was completely shit. Don't know if they made more, I stopped watching after they introduced the new guy.
RIP Andy
itchassnigga 9y ago
I'm fat and I lift. I have callouses on my hands, but can't do DL's but can do squats so I'm good there. I like to get advice on how to lift from the ripped elders at the gym. I've learned a lot from them on form and tips on how to increase bench. Most fags are too proud to ask but if I see some strong older or just strong nigga repping heavy ass weights I ask for advice on how to do that. I rather ask them and google shit, but because they have advice you can only gain from years of experience, I ask people and then look it up. We are all going to make it, these animals I ate haven't died in vein. Vegans could choke on a cuke
BannedAlpha 9y ago
For me, eating cruelty free is an ethical choice more than a nutritional choice.
It is very easy and cheap for me to buy some b12 supplements or get 100-200g / protein per day, making most of your criticisms of non-meat diets a non issue for me.
Trail_of_Jeers 9y ago
That's OK, I'll extra-cruelty meat to balance things out.
CrazyHorseInvincible 9y ago
Clearly, you do not get what this group is about.
After viewing your history in this group (not just this comment), I am issuing a 30 day ban for violation of the following rules:
TRP is not the place for asserting ethical imperatives, especially not non-reciprocal moral obligations.
If you don't understand why, then you need to lurk more.
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dubpluris 9y ago
So this dude is smarter when it comes to nutrition than anyone in here. Most definitely stronger too. And lo and behold, he has a different opinion. Just goes to show being loud doesn't equate to anything, really.
http://blog.chaosandpain.com/trevor-kashey-beardo-nerd-strongman-and-bodybuilder/
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dubpluris 9y ago
I understand that. That couldn't be more basic.
wooojinator 9y ago
And then, deep within the buried and hidden, nested comments, OP copped to his own game. He was bested, and he knew it.
jolly--roger 9y ago
Has anyone here a protip/experience on elbow pain?
I've had some problems with the ulnar nerve in the left arm a couple months back, didn't lift for some time. Took some anti-paraesthesia medication, EMG doc cleared me (no permanent damage, advised against medication), and for the most part, it's okay.
However when pushing my (particularly) triceps to new heights, I get a feeling like my elbows are going to explode, once my left elbow essentially gave up on me (lat pulldown, correct form, just couldn't handle the pressure).
No damage from that but it still bugs me. Painkiller gels don't really help, damaging my arm is not an option of course, but not lifting more isn't either. Thanks in advance;;
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RedHeimdall 9y ago
Sometimes after a heavy lift I put down the weights, take a few steps and I am seeing cartoon stars... good times, walk it off.
I experimented with adding a pre-workout shake recently but I go intense at the gym and I discovered I feel like I am going to puke if I have anything in my stomach other than a few sips of water.
Makes sense. No reason to change up my system. Food and water are for winners. Until you raise the iron you are a loser.
ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
Pre is a real crapshoot for me. Sometimes I feel like an unstoppable animal and I make PRs, sometimes I feel like I'm going to die and my heart is exploding and I can't lift shit. I don't take it anymore either.
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Drenmar 9y ago
I didn't know about this lunk alarm shit. I have no words for this lol.
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TheQuickAndTheRed 9y ago
I came here for the title, stayed for the content.
Soriq 9y ago
Sidenote, I read your "redpill erotic fan fiction" the other day on AlreadyRed, fucking hilarious bro
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down_with_whomever 9y ago
A little context for our readers not familiar with Slavic culture.
I get a huge chuckle every time I see GLO reference these guys as the paragon of Alpha. So, the people for whom this style of dress is very important are known as "gopniks," and they look like this. They're kind of like the Slavic equivalent of British chavs or American trailer trash wiggers.
Obviously alpha as fuck.
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Soriq 9y ago
LMAO. It's never her fault. If purple pill asksmen they would know.
juanqunt 9y ago
Sheiko + 2lbs of meat/day masterrace here.
Animal protein proven to be more beneficial to not muscle, but also brain, skin, and gut health. No better protein in existence than raw salmon and extra rare steak.
Saturated fats are not the enemy. Polyunsaturated fats are way worse (just a bit of omega 3 is needed).
aptway 9y ago
Agree with everything except the mentions of eating soybeans/soy products. Multiple studies (more than have shown otherwise) show that the phytoestrogens found in soy decrease Testosterone.
Source (which cites the studies): http://anabolicmen.com/soy-and-testosterone/
UlyssesElias 9y ago
Great posts and really great writing. You could do scriptwriting, bro!
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Triglycerine 9y ago
Good post, but I take issue with shittalking jumping jacks; They're excellent for leaning down and keeping the heart healthy and IIRC much more effective at burning off fat than jogging due to the intensity.
As for vegans, it's difficult. Most eat a lot less/virtually no refined BS which tends to put them above the average joe by default and as long as they're not trying to gain a lot of muscle and supplement B12 it tends to be fine, especially for women who only need a certain amount of muscle and low Bf% to look healthy.
The person in your image probably only avoids animal products and doesn't watch her diet otherwise.
TL;DR: Jumping jacks good, vegan okay for maintenance diet, bad for gaining.
That's at least my take on the matter.
denart4 9y ago
"Fitness faggots", "blood sacrifice", ... Wtf man.
Do us and yourself a favor and keep your "hey pussies look how alpha I am"-bullshit to yourself.
Your post reads as satire.
kfpswf 9y ago
The Red Pill is like normal Far Cry usually, but when GLO posts, it becomes Blood Dragon. Hope that clarifies.
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
Class system is showing. Can you see it?
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TheGillos 9y ago
It's hyperbole, used in a dramatic, not serious, way.
Goldfulgore 9y ago
Gee I learned something new today
denart4 9y ago
Its a good way to not being taken seriously
TheGillos 9y ago
Not everything educational is serious.
theultmatecad 9y ago
What's wrong with mochafrappeachinnos and a nice 17 minute brisk elliptical workout? That's what all the chicks at my gym do
whatgold 9y ago
Several problems with this post.
If getting huge were so important why is James Deen the #1 porn star women love?
Meat is not necessary for muscle growth, and in fact hinders it. Due to its acid forming properties, high fat content, massive viral and microbial loads, it hinders growth. To get huge one needs steroids, it's that simple. Check out Vegan Gains on YouTube. I assume for someone to be on this sub they have an open mind, but you'd be surprised.
Oh, and James Deen.
To the meat eaters, consider the negative impacts including cardiovascular disease, diabetes, kidney/gallbladder disease, and the most likely result cancer.
The high carb vegan pill is an order of magnitude harder to swallow than the TRP women pill. We're lied to more about health than women! Healthcare makes up 20% of GDP in the US, gotta keep people eating meat to pay the bills.
And eating animal products makes you smell bad. Mental clarity and skin health / smell are major ++
Fetish_Goth 9y ago
Be attractive, don't be unattractive. Lifting is only one way to be attractive. Other ways include being born attractive, and having social/economic proof. James Deen is literally an attractive man that fucks women for a living. Women like stars. And it would be stupid to assume that he doesn't work out. The guy most definitely stays in shape.
GLO likes to rep broscience, but you're just repping hippyscience.
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
Welcome to TRP. Where it's just like real life.
Popular opinion triumphs facts. GLO is too popular for people to accept anyone else's opinions.
whatgold 9y ago
Upvote from me. You'd expect this place to be open minded. They know they're brainwashed on female behavior yet ignore the facts on health and attraction.
FunkyMonkeyAssassin2 9y ago
This post is extremely hilarious. "Woops forgot the triger warning." Got me bellowing.
The article basically shows us that when the label 'Fitness' is stripped off, you find 'Survival' carved under it. I appreaciate this post for its raw-ness and its ability to throw common sense straight at the faces of its audience. It basically destroys the complexity of fitness and re-introduces the simplest (and most natural) way to train.
redditnosleep 9y ago
Mate, you've got it all wrong.
True manliness does not lie in muscles but one's character, one's virtue. RedPill is about understanding the reality of the society, the world. You are telling people to living the alpha male illusion. No insult, but you've got a huge ego to work on. This is the redpill that you have to swallow.
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redditnosleep 9y ago
You are seeing yourself much more worthy than others ("betas" & "faggots"). Real men don't do this. This is why you must cultivate your mind.
And as for the last sentence, you still need validations that much, don't you? Take what you need from this.
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My_Dog_Jax 9y ago
Real men certainly know their value when it comes to business, women, society, etc... So yes I believe and know I am more valuable than others around me. Swallowing the red pill is admitting you have rank that is assigned to you. It's your choice to inflict that rank.
redditnosleep 9y ago
What i meant here is not to put others down. But yeah fuck my wrong sentence.
Cyralea 9y ago
And that understanding should lead you to understand that people respect men who are larger. No one looks up to a beanpole.
You're hamstering reasons for avoiding the gym.
redditnosleep 9y ago
"people respect men who are larger"
what people? pussy wipped men? do you respect larger men? You took the redpill, but you need time. For me, I don't give a fuck about size, I respect every men because they all have the potential to be couragerous. Remember you were a beanpole before you lift bra.
And no I do lift 2x a week, don't assumpt shits.
Take what you need.
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
You are hamstering also ! Hahah
"Respect a man who is larger".
I respect the man who's confident enough in himself as to be in shape and not have to be extremely swole.
I also respect the man who can beat me in a fight.
But to try and demand respect based on size of an individual alone?
The true lesson here is don't underestimate your opponent.
Cyralea 9y ago
Sure. Maybe you have some different set of standards. No one here gives a shit.
Most people you interact with will treat you differently based on your size. It's the reason why nearly all presidents and CEOs are tall.
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
"It's the reason why nearly all..." If you told me that in person I'd stop you and say shut the fuck up.
....Your hamster is insane.
Cyralea 9y ago
And you'd still be wrong. If you can't handle facts, you're in the wrong sub bud.
redditnosleep 9y ago
Don't get me wrong, I do lift, too, but that's not my ultimate goal.
Daisy_DukeNukem 9y ago
Looks like solid advice! Take the rest when you need the rest, and go hard at the gym, It's that simple. I need to find a good gym buddy though. :\
Also, if one more person decides that I'm not allowed to do the straight bar after my squats, I'm going to go all planet fitness roid dude and make them go fuck themselves.
Redpillthriller 9y ago
I hate this whole "fitness" industry and the sloots that jumped on the instagram bandwagon for validation.
The best works I've ever done were in my shed with some rusty ass 30 year old weights, followed by a fat ass steak.
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Jakenbake781 9y ago
Can we make gaylubeoil podcast a thing?
situ139 9y ago
I've never really done any working put and right now I cant go to a gym. What are some ways to train in or around my house. I hate my physical appearance and want to change it.
rpscrote 9y ago
Can you really not go to a gym? I find that hard to believe. Where there's a will there's a way
Draki1903 9y ago
Flip your fridge.
Then realize you are a dumbfuck that just flipped his fridge over and will have to put it back.
Then put it back. Or starve to death. Your call.
RedSunBlue 9y ago
Find a park with some kind of horizontal bar that you can hang from. Bonus points if it has a steep hill as well
Pull-ups, push-ups, hill sprints
Di-onysos 9y ago
There really is no substitute for lifting heavy shit.
Google convict conditioning. It's not as good as heavy weights but it can get you started
SgtBrutalisk 9y ago
Buy a dumbbell and start working out when you got the time. Keep your lower back arched and don't overdo it. Remember that GLO is a fitness trainer so he has to be extreme to impress the customers. You can take it easy and have a good look while not fucking up your joints.
itaykh 9y ago
Buy gymnastic rings for upper body. Look at /r/bodyweightfitness. Eat a lot. Work your way to shrimp squats and pistols. Sprint.
qwertthrowaway 9y ago
/r/bodyweightfitness gave me solid gains for the start. However I'm convinced that you have to switch after the initial phase,so don't rely on it for too long.
silvertongue35 9y ago
Then do something about it! Don't be a Fitness Faggot. Get your ass to the gym, hire a personal trainer and start lifting!
MagneticJohnson 9y ago
push ups, some type of pull (pull ups, body rows with a table), burpees, one legged squats. and SPRINTS. gym is preferable, but you can get a lot done without it. just get really fucking tired.
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AlwaysBulking1 9y ago
If you are gonna do a Bodyweight routine I'd recommend BeastSkills.com
ComradeCynic 9y ago
Build a rock garden. If you have a wood stove, chop wood. Otherwise, you can get in better shape with doing 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats each day. Once that is routine for you, do a set in the morning and another at night. That will have you doing 1400 pushups a week.
Goldfulgore 9y ago
Great post. Especially now that so many people are joining the gym to get a body for the summer. (Too late fags)
I have tried PHAT for 6 months and didn't work out for me. I don't use needles so in order to get hypertrophy, I need more volume and less reps.
Edit: My brother introduced me a while back to a colleague of his. He was pale and weak looking. I asked my brother "Is he anemic or has some kind of illness?". "No" he said. "He is a vegan". We both laughed our asses off as we realized that you can tell them apart.
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keemar 9y ago
best shit ive read in all of reddit. Thanks GLO. Im gonna kill something or someone at the gym today.
isterling 9y ago
More blood for the blood god!
CalvinHobb3s 9y ago
So much cringe in this post lol Also, since we're using extreme examples Frank Medrano is vegan.
To say all this in a not so weird way.
All you need to do is full body motion/body weight exercises.
Dips/ Pull Ups/ Squats/ Deadlifts/ Push ups/ sprints (HIIT)
Add a weight to push-ups/pull ups/dips if you're hitting too many reps without. Watch your caloric intake to shred down.
London-Bananas 9y ago
Frank might be a vegan but he roids like a bull
CalvinHobb3s 9y ago
I dont believe so. Honestly his physique is 100% attainable without roids.
FelixCopy 9y ago
I doubt it but it is possible.
However his physique is 100% not attainable with your routine.
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phillip42069 9y ago
Are Animal souls organic, gluten free, and all natural?
CalvinHobb3s 9y ago
He has the power of hundreds of vegtables. And still looks like that. You have animal souls, and all you have on him is 60lbs. For shame.
yesidoes 9y ago
Great! And this guy has 60 pounds on you....
Isn't this forum about sexual strategy? If you get personally defensive about destroying him with any lift, you're probably an insecure fitness faggot.
Do you think Frank is worried that you do more weight on deadlifts? Has your post caused the women he fucks to drop him in search of your Korall Cannon? I doubt it.
Vegans can be healthy and strong, meat eaters can be healthy and strong.
I enjoy your posts, but unlike some of the users here, who I'm confident bust out their own bottle of Gay Lube Oil when they read them, I think some of your articles (this one included) are bullshit.
rpscrote 9y ago
Except being strong and building muscle REQUIRES protein, and eating vegan makes it infinitely more difficult and expensive to consume sufficient protein without blowing your load on carbs
yesidoes 9y ago
Hemp protein is a complete protein and vegan. Very inexpensive and easy to use in smoothies.
I am not vegan myself, but my friend is and he presses 315 x 5 .
It is harder to get complete proteins, but definitely possible (P.S. avoid soy).
rpscrote 9y ago
not impossible certainly, but more difficult and more expensive. IMO designing diet around realistic compliance first and theoretical optimal numbers second is wise, because the goal is to make it a lifestyle. The easier it is to carry out the more likely the "dieter" will comply. You can add the more difficult steps as the dieter gains discipline
yesidoes 9y ago
Definitely a good point, and in all fairness my friend was a vegetarian when he made most of his gains, then lacto-vegetarian, and finally shifted to vegan.
rpscrote 9y ago
that seems to be pretty typical for most "vegan" bodybuilders. It's so much easier to do it as vegetarian or lacto vegetarian (eggs, cottage cheese, milk and whey being some of the cheapest proteins) than vegan
FelixCopy 9y ago
Is this a joke? At least list all the necessary compounds (shoulder press, bench, rows). But even then you will plateau. You just listed some high school level track kid's routine.
CalvinHobb3s 9y ago
Im saying this routine, as simple as it may be, is the core essentials you need. You could say "pfffft sounds like some shit they do in Navy SEAL BUD/s training". The only thing I probably should have included was: lunges and overhead press.
FelixCopy 9y ago
I'm not even sure how to approach your condescending manner as if most posters here don't already have elite physiques.
Firstly your whole concept of need makes no sense. People have varying goals. If your goal is to "be in shape" at age 40 then sure you can do a few body weight exercises and feel great. If you want advanced strength and definition you will need much, much more.
af505 9y ago
I think what CalvinHobbs3s is saying is that he has experienced gains doing bodyweight-centric exercise. He's not trying to condescend, he's just sharing what he has found works for him.
CalvinHobb3s 9y ago
Absolutely you can have a terrific body with just bodyweight exercises. By the way, im one of the posters here with an "elite physique". My entire routine is primarily bodyweight. Yes I do bring in weights for some things. The point is, you dont have to lift weights in the traditional juicehead sense to get a desirable body.
RedSunBlue 9y ago
Bro you can't make that kind of claim without pictures.
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London-Bananas 9y ago
Kind of looking for some advice here: I lifted for about a year, and then started boxing additionally. After about 6 months I realized how boring I actually found lifting and started boxing more and stopped lifting. I really really enjoy boxing.
Since I stopped lifting, my physique has obviously stalled. Boxing is very good for your overall fitness and maintains your physique, but it doesn't make you huge.
Recently I've been playing with the thought of staring lifting additionally. Would this be too much for my body (3x boxing, 1x running, 2x lifting a week)? I'm concerned I might not get enough rest and generally get stressed from having less time.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
I boxe three days a week with running and HIIT and all kinds of work between sessions. My advice is : don't do it if you aren't going to compete or at least do proper stretching and massage.
Heliophobe 9y ago
Cardio kills any gains you'd hope to achieve. If you're trying to build you need to eat a fuck ton and lift a fuck ton.
Cyralea 9y ago
Depending how intense your boxing regimen is, no, that shouldn't be excessive. Most dudes at the gym are there 5 times a week.
If you're older (40+), you may need to scale down. Also, be mindful not to hit a calorie wall, make sure you're taking in enough to sustain your endurance workouts.
Marooned-no-more 9y ago
Been a while since I laughed at a Reddit post
squatch1968 9y ago
Too much pseudo-masculine bullshit. I workout (grapple) with a "faggot" MMA fighter who might re-define bad-ass for you. Grow up!
pilledwillingly 9y ago
The long distance runner in me wants to say 'fitness means different things to different people' but I'd already bookmarked this under 'motivation' so I'd be a hypocrite if I did. Good article.
meet_me_at_high_noon 9y ago
I do think fitness means different things to different people. I don't enjoy lifting. I enjoy running. Anyone who's ever done yasso 800s in 90 degree weather or 20 miles on a hilly backroad on a saturday morning knows that running is definitely painful and sacrificial. I love it man.
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juanqunt 9y ago
How can you recommend Sheiko and Piana at the same time? Sheiko is for people who want to get perfect form and become as badass and strong as possible, while Piana is just a synthol/implant freak who doesn't even lift heavy.
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juanqunt 9y ago
Well, you also mentioned the Anabolics book, which is a great resource. Piana simply tells too many half truths and half lies to be a trustworthy resource. He's not any better than any other big guys on various forums who all have their own broscience thoughts, some of which work and some of which don't.
pilledwillingly 9y ago
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pilledwillingly 9y ago
I'm sure he is, but if I'm looking for meathead motivation, I'll take CT Fletcher over this guy any day of the week.
juanqunt 9y ago
CT is the man. True strength and hardcore attitude. He was actually a powerlifting champion and one of the strongest men ever. Piana is complete liar faggot with no real muscles, only implants and synthol.
I'd never mess with CT in real life, but I bet Piana shows his cowardly nature if someone pushes him hard enough.
johnyann 9y ago
Everybody wants to get big, but no one wants to lift these heavy-ass weights.
jakethesnake76 9y ago
i guess i go to the gym at the wrong time i miss all this silliness unless it's a women and effeminate man thingy and i just not there at the right(wrong ) time to see it..Plus we don't have a starbucks anywhere close by, just black coffee at the easymart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8RcDb_wZfQ Anti roid rage video
antariusz 9y ago
Just bought some 10-90lb adjustable dumbbells from bowflex yesterday in fact, because 50lb hex dumbbells are fucking expensive ANYWAY and I didn't want to get anymore sets than I already had (8?).
Just thought it was funny that you're making fun of a company that specifically attempts to make money by making people stronger and healthier.
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antariusz 9y ago
When I get to the point that I can dumbbell bench press 180lbs, I will be happy.
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Washedupoaf 9y ago
I'm glad somebody else thinks this way too. Like getting big isn't at all fucking hard. If you aren't growing and you wanna be, eat more good food. If you aren't getting bigger and you wanna be, pick up progressively heavier shit. It ain't rocket science boys, just blood, sweat, tears, and lots of dead animal flesh.
200mgtestc 9y ago
Lot of good stuff in this thread. Freaking love PHAT.
Probably wouldn't recommend Smolov to the majority of people reading this post though. You already need to be benching/squatting pretty high weight to consider it.
Also, not that hypertrophy is non-existent on the program, but the scales are tipped almost entirely towards strength, when most people's goals are hypertrophy related here.Edit: Took out lack of hypertrophy stuff. Should've googled it first to make sure.
Poldonis 9y ago
This needs to be made into an moc-infomertial
epixs 9y ago
Love the post man, go hard or go home.
BannedAlpha 9y ago
Common sense, in this use, would be the same as making naive guesses and over simplifications of extremely complicated processes.
Are you a nutritionist or biologist? No
Are you an internet personality that gains twitter followers for drastic / argumentative viewpoints? Yes
Will some misguided youth follow your advice cause they are lost in a sea of confusion and want to follow a charismatic dude like you? Probably
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RompeChocha 9y ago
Fuck... i have small baby soft hands...
grubek 9y ago
Mine too. And I've done lots of weight lifting. I just used leather globes. I guess that's for faggots too or something.
laere 9y ago
From lifting and guitar my hands are calloused steel. Get at it fitness faggot!
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redditarcm89 9y ago
Related note; Do none of you use lotion? I get that it's not incredibly masculine, but dry skin is a terrible feeling.
this-is-my-work-acct 9y ago
I use lotion and I've never considered it non-masculine.
chuckthundercock 9y ago
Follow me on twitter, you self promoting fuck... I love your shit and I do follow you. Keep up the great posts and keeping the community honest.
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ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
Yeah, when you're just starting you need to take it easy. Don't start going "balls to the wall" until you're comfortable with all your lifts and form. Starting out going 0-100 is a recipe for injuries.
Bignmybrain 9y ago
God dammit. I wanted to start a calisthenics program because I'm being fiscally responsible and blah blah use what you have. No. GLO says get to the gym and offer your blood to the iron gods.
geosh 9y ago
According to research, the paleolithic man's diet consisted of around 70% animal flesh. Compare that to your past 3 meals.
I started on the paleo diet long before I found TRP, and lost 15lbs of chub sitting on my ass (I work a desk job). Did not limit my food intake, just made animal flesh my primary source of food. Now that I've started to lift my beer gut is completely gone and I'm starting to bulk up.
Usually I think all these "fad diets" are full of shit and pseudoscience (Gary Taubes is a aerospace engineer writing books on nutrition... seriously?), but what sold me on paleo is the theory behind it. Man simply hasn't evolved to eat 90% of what we find on menus today, but a lot of people do anyway, which is IMHO the main reason why there are so many hambeasts around.
brasilgringo 9y ago
Anyone have a link to a good starting routine for a 45 year old guy who hasn't been to the gym in 3 years? I'm worried more about not overtly hurting myself badly in the first weeks of return. Thx.
williesmokes 9y ago
That youtube link of the guy in planet fitness made my day
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Star_Boy_Mike 9y ago
Squats are only as risky as one is incompetent. Shying away from something because of fear isn't the best route for anything.
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Star_Boy_Mike 9y ago
That post doesn't counter my point. Many people lack quality squatting mobility and proper squatting form knowledge, but these things can be remedied. Though I admit it is possible to have physical ailments that can completely remove the ability to squat safely, and this has nothing to do with competence, but that's true for any exercise. I also admit my response may be off point, since squatting may not be vital to someone solely interested in looking good.
What about being out of the gym because of a torn pec or elbow tendonitis? Movements don't cause injuries, improper form and unwise over reaching does.
GayLordShitLord 9y ago
I recently got a hernia and may have to get surgery, do you think i can still lift lightly in the mean time?
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sigmayogi 9y ago
I don't eat meat, but consume a lot of whey. Just started lifting in last 2 months, 5 lbs of weight so far, all muscle.
The advice about killing yourself while lifting is true, casual approach doesn't work. It has to be to the point where you can't do a rep after your last set. Then cram protein in. Next day repeat.
rpscrote 9y ago
Not unviersally true. Only go to failure like this on a 100% consistent basis if you're still in newb gains mode or you have sufficient recovery to back it up (e.g. caloric surplus, plenty of sleep). If you try this while on a cut, you have to reduce volume and keep weight high. You can easily outpace your recovery capacity doing this while cutting.
sigmayogi 9y ago
I am definitely newb mode right now. I've gone to about 8% bodyfat before in my 20's but without any conscious effort short of running twice a day and lifting 5 times a week. I'll keep your advice in mind, thanks!
rpscrote 9y ago
those gains will come back fast man, good luck to you
sanglupus 9y ago
20 rep squats? :(
shudder
Bronze_Bound 9y ago
Cutting right now so I can't sacrifice as much animals. :(
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CisWhiteMaelstrom 9y ago
I fucking love your posts, GLO. After seeing the "Men, what do you hate about men?" post on /r/askreddit, I came here to see something kickass to restore balance to the world and then there's a motherfucking GLOPost.
JF803 9y ago
This reads like an /r/swoleacceptance post
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_torn 9y ago
the sheiko source you linked is questionable...for one thing the guy misinterpreted this:
should be paused at knee then complete the rest of the lift lol.
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SgtBrutalisk 9y ago
Your joints will hate you for this. Though, you can't hustle them into compliance.
aguy01 9y ago
Just want to say be careful of underrecovery from lifting. The harder you hit the gym, the more time you need off. You can hit your whole body 3 times a week on something like 5x5 or 531 because you don't grind and train to failure, but if you're 'pushing it to the limit' you need longer rest periods. Or steroids.
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I just found some new stretch marks on my pec/delt tie in from my ridiculous chest pump the other day. it's working.
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I don't do them often but I always get a great stretch there. I happened to have been doing supersets of Arnold flies that day so I was stretching plenty.
sabinmightyfist 9y ago
Absolutely incredible post.
alpinehighest 9y ago
Bro, keep up the good work
People are alot more respectful and agreeable when your 215 then when you are 160.
that is a fact, just like when your stare at a lion on the serengeti same shit
if your butt hurt by this, oh well, the gym is your practice ground for the trials that life will throw at you...
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garlicextract 9y ago
I'm fucking dead. That was fantastic.
zikkitzo 9y ago
Counter point to the vegan thing: Renee Somerfield. She's cut as fuck and vegan. HOWEVER, she chases low BMI, flexibility and cardio health. Men focusing on pure strength won't get great results on her diet. Best way to do that is a big ole meat cocktail 5 times a day. Point is unhealthy vegans are not the same as healthy vegans. It's possible. People just suck at it.
madrealworld 9y ago
my hands have become calloused fucked up and ugly from llifting and ive hated that until i read this post. thank you.
rpscrote 9y ago
you can reduce nasty calluses by gripping the bar with better form; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBmiQm4MF4. You'll still have calluses but they wont be the super thick kind that rip off and bleed
madrealworld 9y ago
oh nice thanks for the link bro!
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ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
I wear callouses like a badge of honor. I've had people comment on them before and I just say "that's the price of lifting heavy" with a shrug and they never mention it again.
madrealworld 9y ago
i used to be ashamed of them but that just seems silly in retrospect. i embrace it now
monzzter221 9y ago
I worked with a guy, jacked as fuck, I'm not talking lean cut, I'm talking fucking huge, cool as shit, one day he mentioned for some reason or another that he was a... wait for it... Vegetarian.
I was like how the fuck are you so big. He said you have to eat the right way, not the way vegetarians all over do it where they just cut meat out of their diet, but you have to reassemble your diet from the ground up and find high protein sources. Said he had been a vegetarian for 15 years. What. The. Fuck.
Now, I wouldn't do it, its not very intuitive, but just letting you know, if you really really are determined to, you can be a vegetarian and still grow. To me its more hassle than its worth though considering you have a food source readily available to you that helps you avoid all that bullshit.
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Killigraphy 9y ago
That and Creatine, HGH,etc are non meat products :}
Iupvoteforknowledge 9y ago
Great post. Eat a shit ton, lift a shit ton, sleep a shit ton. Got it.
Coincidentally I was thinking earlier of your posts and if I recall you are a personal trainer, correct? I just got my cert and have been looking for gyms. Any tips from the mighty gaylubeoil?
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asianmasaccount 9y ago
Yea doctors don't even tell people to not eat red meat anymore. Doesn't give you colon cancer. research is trending in showing that dietary cholesterol has minimal impact on blood cholesterol.
Plus we have the modern miracles of zetia and statins. Praise be to whoever developed them.
Lumberjack1234 9y ago
Not minimal, low. If a person with high cholesterol stop consuming any food that contains it, his cholesterol levels will drop by about 10%, 15% in rare cases.
The reason for this is because almost all cholesterol in your body is created in the liver from other substances.
niczar 9y ago
Actually from what I've seen it only affects people who have a cholesterol regulation disorder, mainly familial hypercholesterolemia. For everyone else, increasing dietary cholesterol even drastically only raises blood cholesterol temporarily, and it tends to go back to baseline within a few days.
RiseAboveRuin 9y ago
I work at 24 and they literally hire anyone. I work with a bunch of retards. If you apply with 3 certs though you start out at 28-33$/hr. Once you hit 120 sessions a month you go up to around 38-40$/hr. Once you hit 2500 sessions total you go up to around 48$/hr. Not a bad gig as long as you can put up with the initial 6 month client build-up process. Meet a lot of hot chicks too that all seem to have a fantasy about banging their personal trainer.
BlackHeart89 9y ago
We had a personal trainer at my gym. Real big dude. Could bench a at least 400 lbs. But also weighed a lot. Never seen him do a deadlift, squat, jog, power-clean, shoulder press, or anything. Just incline and flat bench.
He gave garbage advice. Wanna get big? "I want to get strong." Then use this asst. machine and do 3x20. That'll get you big.
I did that shit and came back even weaker. Everyone he trained looked exactly the same, if not fatter for the entire year I was at that gym. That was about 5 years ago though.
schnappdragon 9y ago
What kind of certs do you need?
bonerfleximus 9y ago
We have a trainer at my 24 who weighs 300+ lbs, all fat, and walks around wearing a sweatband with long hair flowing over. Literally hire anyone
coffee_and_lumber 9y ago
I'm imagining a larger and sweatier Philip Seymour Hoffman from "Along Came Polly".
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RealRational 9y ago
Guys like you are why so many girls won't get a personal trainer.
"I'd rather not be molested while I'm trying to work out".
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WardlyHasted 9y ago
Then hire a female trainer
RealRational 9y ago
Hard to find one that knows what they're doing and isn't lazy and is available.
wellforthebird 9y ago
She is RealRational, don't tell her what to do! If there is a rational conclusion, she knows about it... Maybe.
RealRational 9y ago
Not female, simply quoting the last one I asked about getting a personal trainer.
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Iupvoteforknowledge 9y ago
Huh, good to know. Them certs be expensive though.
Cyralea 9y ago
It's more than just eating a shit ton, it's eating a shit ton of protein. If you load up on a high calorie diet without enough protein you're going to develop a gut, regardless of the intensity of your workout.
You likely won't need more than 2500-4000 calories a day.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Mine was 3 MREs a day, sometimes four, and a 12 hour high intensity workout lifting very heavy shit and carrying it up steps, or pushing 3,000 to 15,000lbs on rollers that don't roll easy. 7 days a week, 12 to 14 hours a day, no breaks longer than ten minutes. I was working harder than everyone who worked with me, so I got big and they didn't. Found out the hard way in the second war that you can't work like you did at 21 when you're 34.
Each MRE provides an average of 1,250 calories (13 percent protein, 36 percent fat, and 51 percent carbohydrates) and one-third of the Military Recommended Daily Allowance of vitamins and minerals. A full day's worth of meals would consist of three MREs.
I ate any chance I got, because it could be hours or days before I got the chance again. Fun times.
Iupvoteforknowledge 9y ago
Yeah I know, I'm currently on a 3200 a day bulk. Steady gains.
nzgs 9y ago
Yes people really overstate the "eat big to get big" mantra. It's largely nonsense. You barely have to eat any more than the average person, only the types of food are very different (higher in protein and fats). Whenever I read someone repeating that "eat big" stuff I just know it's some fat beginner who subscribes to Rich Piana or some shit. I don't think I've ever gone over 3500cals even on test+superdrol, usually around 2500cals to gain muscle.
juanqunt 9y ago
Superdrol is highly liver toxic and suppresses appetite. I'd be struggling to eat 3500 calories on sdrol too.
But if you're taking equipoise or even just high dose test, have fun starving if you're eating under 5000 calories.
Usually any time I drop calories under 3000, I lean down and lose mass like crazy. Small things like more walking and standing, getting in enough iodine and other trace minerals can make a huge difference in your metabolism. And if you're taking T3 + Equipoise and doing a lot of cardio, maintenance calories could be over 9000.
BlackHeart89 9y ago
Yeah. I fucked around and gained 50 lbs on that "eat big to get big" bullshit. Yeah. I got much stronger in the process. But the vast majority of my gains were fat.
throwaway-aa2 9y ago
Well that makes sense but you're going to have put on more muscle with that fat than having not put on that fat. It's a very simple concept: the more you eat, the more potential for strength and muscle you will have. That being said, that has to be really examined for the point you're at in life. Most people don't want to pack on 50-100lbs for the sake of gaining muscle and sacrifice their current aesthetic physique. They feel like they want to keep that physique and put on muscle a little bit slower than you would if you put on the fat.
And that's totally fine. I don't give a shit and I want to put on muscle as fast as possible (since it's always easy to go on a calorie deficit especially when you have a lot of muscle as your metabolism is faster).
BlackHeart89 9y ago
It depends really. If you put on 50 lbs of fat and only 20 lbs of muscle, then its going to take you a while to lose all that fat and in the meanwhile, you'll lose some strength if you're in a deficit for a while. Even if you don't lose strength, it'll be difficult to progress. So you may gain 40 lbs of muscle in 15 months, but the next year is spent on cutting and trying to maintain muscle.
On the flip side, if you maintain your fat to muscle ratio, you may have slower gains, but it will be consistent and aesthetically pleasing. So you may gain 40 lbs of muscle in 2 years while looking good the entire time and still progressing. Sometimes eating a large excess will assist with getting over a plateau.
throwaway-aa2 9y ago
http://startingstrength.com/articles/eating_points_reynolds.pdf
Read that.
BlackHeart89 9y ago
Jesus christ. Sounds good on paper. Still not sure if I have much confidence in it. I may give it a shot. But shit like gaining over 20 lbs in 10 days? Thats insane. But I admit, losing it would be easy. Do you know if these folks were on the juice? I can't say as a fact, but I've read a few times that many pro power lifters are on the shit. If so, they can get away with doing the things that naturals cannot.
moralitee12 9y ago
Not true. Check out a guy called vegan gains on youtube. He wears baggy tee's just to troll people into saying the usual "do you even lift bro" then he shows his massive lush arms from a lush vegan 80-10-10 diet. Hot as fuck and loves animals. There is more than 1 way to skin a cow...or not in his case. I suspect many of you here would do well to adopt a vegan lifestyle. Its amazing the effect that not eating our cousins can have on your psyche. Seriously.
nzgs 9y ago
Vegan gains is tiny, just very lean. Not hard to gain a nominal amount of muscle and stay lean with just a vegan diet and soy protein. But in order to progress he has to widen his diet or get on the gear.
Cyralea 9y ago
There is no way a vegan can get as big as a carnivore. Vegetarian yes, but not vegan. Calling bullshit.
I checked out your Youtuber. Guy is lean, but looks like he weighs about 160 lbs. Not impressed.
juanqunt 9y ago
Only way possible is you take someone with amazing genetics and give him tons of hormones. No way in hell with equal baseline LOL.
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Cyralea 9y ago
And they'd be bigger with meat. It's even more daunting for guys who aren't juicing like these guys are. They simply won't grow as fast or as big.
There's tons of literature on this.
juanqunt 9y ago
Agreed. Especially for natties, you need saturated fats and cholesterol for proper hormone production. Egg, steak, salmon. I'd say even fuck chicken in general.
If chicken is your main source of meat, then you're basically half vegetarian. I only eat chicken when my budget is low or when I really want a bit of variety. And even then, pork is probably a better option.
moralitee12 9y ago
He's 6.2 so has even said he looks smaller than most shorter lifters. Hes buff as fuck. There are also plent vegan bodybuilders bigger than him too. He has a perfect v in some of his vids in the gym and his arms are friggin massive. Also it cannot be understated the effect it has on a woman when she finds out a guy loves animals...although im sure you guys will dispute it, despite you not being female. But whatevs, not really arsed if you agree or not. I just sometimes hope that one of my nuggets or greatness hits home. Ha. Hope springs eternal.
juanqunt 9y ago
LMAO looked him up. He's the guy always talking shit on Blahahaaha vids. Biggest blue pill phaggot out there.
moralitee12 9y ago
Lol ok love. I have no desire to argue his blueness. The guy is doing well blue pill or not. I follow him on fb and youtube. He's continually getting proposals and declarations of love. His videos talking shit on people make my sides split. He is friggin hilarious :)
PoFolk 9y ago
You honestly dont even need a shit ton of protein, too much of any one thing is never a good thing.
Unless its pussy.
Cyralea 9y ago
There is too much. The number is variable based on the metric you're measuring, but the highest I've seen is 1.3g/lb body weight.
PoFolk 9y ago
If youve got a pound and a half pussy you're in the wrong sub.
BlackHeart89 9y ago
Nah dude. Its been shown that consuming more protein than your body needs puts more stress on your liver than necessary. Over the years, doing that shit everyday, would tear your liver to pieces in the long run.
For the future, don't consume anymore protein than necessary. I eat 150g per day. Sometimes I go over.
PoFolk 9y ago
Did anyone read my post? Were all agreeing that you don't need a huge amount of protein to gain muscle efficiently.
rpscrote 9y ago
That's probably not high enough if you were on a cut though. Protein needs to retain all muscle mass during a cut go up. The literature shows diminishing benefits all the way up to 1.3 iirc like Cyralea is saying in such a case. Anecdotally I saw a pretty big improvement in mass gain and retention on both bulk and cut by going from 150g-180g to 250g-275g keeping calories otherwise equal (within ~150). Was 170 -> 180 at the time
BlackHeart89 9y ago
Definitely. I only weigh 168 and trying to maintain/slight bulk. During a 50 lb cut, I fucked up by not consuming more protein than usual.
But again, the damage is only done if going for years. Similar to if you do powerlifting everyday for 5 years with no rest/light days.
rpscrote 9y ago
same shit happened to me, wanted to cut to 10%. Got down to probably 12 or 13 but realized I was cutting muscle too. Sets you back months to regain the muscle then recut the fat, what a pain
af505 9y ago
Since the body can only absorb 30-40 g protein/every 2-3 hrs, I would say this 2500-4000 parameter is a bit on the wild side.
rpscrote 9y ago
that number is complete bunk broscience. Not true at all
af505 9y ago
Articles or science research that share a more accurate number?
RealRational 9y ago
Between 10 and 30% of daily calorie consumption
af505 9y ago
Harvard, Mayo, Johns Hopkins...are good standard sources. I'd like to see something from a big researcher like these.
RealRational 9y ago
Well if you google it you'll find them. But their studies are for "normal" people, not athletes, or even just people who lift weights to gain.
rpscrote 9y ago
the maximum hasn't been pinned down, leading the theory to be that the maximum is beyond what you can physically fit in your stomach. Check that Examine.com link for the best current knowledge on the topic
af505 9y ago
reputable lacking. find something from a big name univ or medical center (johns hopkins, mayo, harvard, etc)
rpscrote 9y ago
No. Your burden of proof to give evidence for your claim of 30-40g max. Find me a study.
Cyralea 9y ago
That's a myth. Your body can consume much, much more than 40g protein in one sitting.
af505 9y ago
This guy's results would beg to differ that it's necessary and science say that overhauling protein will tax kidneys, leech calcium, and lead to excess fat. For this guy I'm linking to below, he has 20% protein in his diet per day. That's it. As he says "protein is overrated." I would be very happy to have his physique at 60 yo. Don't think he's alone.... There are many others like him with this diet, I provided a ton of links to others in my other post below.
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi
Cyralea 9y ago
You didn't address what I wrote. Your body can handle much more than 40g in one sitting. This is scientifically observable.
moralitee12 9y ago
Think you are fighting a losing battle. I was too ha. Enjoy your cancer boys and go your whole life denying yourself carbs...when you really have no need to. Infact quite the opposite. Chow
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moralitee12 9y ago
The evidence is already out there GLO...the guy af505 already posted a video of vegans...huge muscled vegans. Healthy as you like. As long as you make sure to take b12...vitamin d and make sure you eat enough you can easily hit your needs every day. I check cronometer most days with my diet. Also dont tell me meat eaters dont have to supplement their diets too because they do. Plus i would rather just supplement a couple things than eat animals. Just my opinion :) Anyhoo have a great day crazy meat eating boys. Haha.
af505 9y ago
I hear you. But as long as I have Mayo, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and Loma Linda on my side, I feel that I'm in the winner's circle. :)
moralitee12 9y ago
You defo are. Vegans for the win :) Ha
juanqunt 9y ago
I don't think so. I know plenty of Harvard and JHU researchers who say else wise.
Enjoy your colon cancer, SIBO, IBS, thyroid issues, and tons of other problems as vegans. Enjoy high PUFA and high insoluble issues you get from nuts, seeds, and grains. Funny that beef liver contains way more vitamins and minerals than most veggies out there.
I eat about a pound of veggies and 2 pounds of raw fruits per day, but you need to balance that with 2 pounds of meat for optimal health.
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Gunho_Khan 9y ago
I think once you're in a caloric surplus it's not THAT important to eat the "right amount of protein" e.g. 1g per 1lbs. Yes you need protein. But you don't necessarily have to eat a shit ton of protein.
You don't get a gut from not eating enough protein in a calorie surplus, you get a gut from eating too much, period. While bulking you will probably gain a little bit of fat if you are natty, that's normal.
juanqunt 9y ago
1g/lb is way higher than population average and pretty standard for lifters. Under 150g might be a bit low, but 300g isn't gonna be better than 200g unless you're Ronnie Coleman.
You get a gut from indigestion from eating too much foods that are either inflammatory or promote a bad gut microbiome profile. Drop dairy, decrease insoluble fibers, and that could decrease your waist size from bloating without changing fat%. Too many people who are lean, but look pregnant nowadays.
Now as for weight, that's mostly just calories, but sufficient protein and quality fats from natural foods can make a difference in body composition.
rpscrote 9y ago
You need 1 number for bulks, a different, higher number for cuts. Macros in order of body-protein sparing power (e.g. muscle retaining power): 1) protein, 2) carbs, 3) fat. On a cut when you reduce carbs drastically, you need to increase protein to ensure you don't lose muscle mass while losing fat.
newb gains and anabolics will increase your protein needs too.
source: lyle mcdonald's rapid fat loss solution
Cyralea 9y ago
1g per 1 lb body weight (to a max of 1.30g/lb) is precisely what I mean. You'd be surprised how many people actually miss this target while going overboard on calories.
I never meant to suggest otherwise, though I can see how my wording was confusing. You need a calorie surplus to bulk, but if you're not meeting your protein targets a lot of it is simply going to get stored as fat.
EDIT: Corrected typo
jakethesnake76 9y ago
Biggest problem i see is to many carbs..
garlicextract 9y ago
how the fuck do you get to 130g protein while eating healthy and not bulking?
A solid serving of chicken breast is 30g. Let's say you eat that for lunch and dinner, plus a bunch of eggs during breakfast, you'll barely be at 90g.
Cyralea 9y ago
It helps if you eat a lot of fish. The left portion is 150g, the right portion is 250g. Salmon is 22g protein per 100g.
It's not hard to put away 500g salmon in one sitting.
garlicextract 9y ago
Ah, salmon, one of my favorite foods. Unfortunately, it's quite expensive too. Adding more fish is something I'll be doing though.
boscoist 9y ago
Citation needed on the 130g max
Cyralea 9y ago
Here you go.
RU_Crazy 9y ago
It may not be beneficial purely based on nutritional needs but protein will satisfy you much more than other types of calories. Compare eating 400 cal of chicken breast to 400 cal of bread - its not even close in terms of satiety.
boscoist 9y ago
Im seeing .75-.82g/lb. No limit
Cyralea 9y ago
I made a mistake, I meant 1.3g/lb. Not sure why I wrote 130g originally.
My original source I'm citing stated it was 1.3g/lb, this one is stating 0.82. I imagine they're measuring different values.
RealRational 9y ago
Brock Lesnar nearly killed himself by eating too much protein, to support what you said.
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ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
lol, he developed an intestinal disease that has nothing to do with protein consumption.
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CrazyHorseInvincible 9y ago
No internet girly-slap fights. 30 days in the penalty box for you.
ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
lol k
If you actually read the article you linked, you'd realize the problem was lack of fiber, not too much protein. They only mentioned protein to highlight his lack of fiber.
Why u so mad?
RealRational 9y ago
If he had less protein the lack of fiber wouldn't have caused a disease.
Guess you could look at it either way, but I'd rather look at it rationally and go "maybe eating 15 steaks a day is a bad idea".
If nothing else you're gonna die of cholesterol at 40.
Ignorance makes me angry, can't help it.
ButterMyBiscuit 9y ago
If your goal is to be a 300 lb muscle freak, then eating 15 steaks a day isn't just a good idea, but necessary. The lesson is to eat vegetables with it.
RealRational 9y ago
Yes! Sigh, your rationality has assuaged my anger, haha.
But you raise a good point, why would you want to be a 300lb "muscle freak"? I've always found that disgusting. There's just a point where you've put on too much muscle for your frame. It's as simple as that, match muscle to your frame and go no further. It saps all your energy, destroys your cardio, slows you down, makes you gregarious and clumsy. There's not a single upside.
There is a reason he looked like a deer that just saw a lion when Dos Antos hit him, it was fantastic!
Anderson Silva, GSP, Randy Couture, those guys were all in peak physical form. Still muscular, but lean and quick, able to fight 30 minutes like it's nothing.
thetrenmademedoit 9y ago
/r/steroids for all ass-needle information
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SquatBenchDeadlift 9y ago
Llewellyn is God over at /r/steroids I think you'll find their's plenty of knowledgeable guys there
thetrenmademedoit 9y ago
I've read the book.
He knows his stuff but it's a little outdated.
You gotta learn to sift through the broscience bullshit and come to your own conclusions. /r/steroids is still one of the better resources available.
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Dark-Ulfberht 9y ago
God damn, this is good shit.
I really only lift to supplement BJJ, but the 20 rep squat is a staple. There's no more efficient workout. The whole thing takes maybe 20 minutes, warm up and follow-on exercises included. But, a man learn lessons in that couple minutes spent between reps 14 and 20.
Also, where did all these pussies come from who preach what Mark Rippetoe calls "silly bullshit," and say, "hhrrrnnnnn, being strong isn't the definition of being a man." God damn. It's punk ass bitches like you that make me pray for the zombie apocalypse every fucking day. Every. Fucking. Day. You don't deserve to survive, much less breed. You only exist because of the giant umbrella of puss that's been draped over Western civilization for damn near four generations now. When the zombies come, I can't wait to take all my shit back from you that you've been holding on my behalf for so long.
WardlyHasted 9y ago
Rippetoe really says it best in the introduction of Starting Strength:
"A weak man is not as happy as that same man would be if he were strong."
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xwm 9y ago
I've been wanting to get into BJJ (and Muy Thai) for a while now. My work schedule makes this pretty much impossible other than one day a week though, and I'm not paying $100+ a month for four classes. New job time.
af505 9y ago
don't buy the lies man. science says otherwise
Mayo Clinic (http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/meatless-meals/art-20048193). Heart disease, high cholesterol.
Johns Hopkins (http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/10/pancreatic-cancer-meat-causes-it.html). Cancer.
Loma Linda (http://www.llu.edu/public-health/health/vege-cancer.page). Cancer.
Harvard Univ (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein/). Cancer, Osteoporosis, Type 2 Diabetes.
Harvard Univ (http://www.health.harvard.edu/family_health_guide/red-meat-and-colon-cancer). Red meat, increase in cancer.
VEGANISM is where it's at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R0w5xVVW8g
apachemd 9y ago
Me too. BJJ 6 times/week and lifting 3 times week. Most BJJ guys I train with don't lift at all which is strange imho since strength and size only helps my BJJ game. Lifting big and heavy, and then eating a shit ton of paleo foods, followed my rest, really is the key.
Dark-Ulfberht 9y ago
Yeah. I think a lot of bjj guys don't fully appreciate strength training. Sure, technique is extremely important, but having a 50% strength advantage in your weight class doesn't hurt.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
Bro, I pray for a zombie apocalypse too. Did you buy a sword yet ?
Dark-Ulfberht 9y ago
Goddamn right.
Also, guns.
I do fairly well in our current civilization, but I think I'd do better as a warlord.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
In a different time, I would have been a thief/scientist. Fuck the system, fuck sluts and make money.
racist_fart_sniffer 9y ago
Why are you trying so hard to be a meathead alpha? It's cringe. Yeah sure, lift, but what's with this whole "alpha" persona you're adopting.
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
He's the TRP equivalent of a celebrity. Comes with the territory.
racist_fart_sniffer 9y ago
Lift brah gotta sacrifice dem muscles for the gods of iron brah gotta eat that steak brah gotta be dat dere alpha brah gotta weigh 215 brah gotta not be beta brah
It's dumb frat bro bullshit with the sole intention of bragging about how alpha he thinks he is. Any new info here? Lift and eat meat. That's it. The rest is just pure ego. He's a try hard in a muscular body, nothing more
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Di-onysos 9y ago
The pic of Alana Massey is excellent, it really showcases the features of vegans: pallid skin, thin hair, tired look. Just a look of that makes me hungry for some vitamin B12-rich fish that died for my health.
One thing that I would like to emphasize on the subject of training is that when you work out, you fucking work. When you rest, you fucking rest. When you're training it's short(no more than 60-70min), balls to the walls, high intensity. Then you rest, you eat, you take it easy like a lion does after a kill. Then you go again. Too many half-ass both, do some weird flappy shit at gym for two hours, then do some half-assed jogging, some half-assed pushups and whatever, never properly resting or properly training.
And eat your damn organs. Liver, kidneys, heart. Those are the parts predators in the wild eat first. Why? They're absolutely fucking packed with nutrients and shit all over any vegetable or multivitamin for that matter.
And do eat quality organic grassfed meat if at all possible. This is not some hippie shit, it's common sense. You are what you eat has eaten. Imagine you're a cannibal. Which person you'd think you'd prefer eating and is better for you: The mcdonalds + coca cola fattened obese slab, or the lean muscular athlete?
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garlicextract 9y ago
Citation needed. If you're already in shape then yeah, keeping it 60-70 mins is ideal. For a lot of people coming to this sub, they may be 10, 20, 30, 50, or 100+ lbs overweight. If you want to drop 10 lbs there's nothing wrong (and probably a lot right) if you spend >90+ minutes in the gym once in a while. Notice that key last part of the sentence.
TheRedPilsner 9y ago
Well, the fat person would probably have more marbling in the meat, which makes for a more juicy and flavorful cut.
TekkomanKingz 9y ago
Just a side note: Lions try and eat Hippos everyday unfortunately they are more resilient and vicious than they seem.
sailorJery 9y ago
plus they'd be easier to catch
TheRedPilsner 9y ago
Remember the first rule of Zombieland: Cardio
When the zombie outbreak happened, the first to go - for obvious reasons - were the fatties.
CoriolanusRevisited 9y ago
I guarantee this is going to end up somewhere else on Reddit "Those red pillers now endorse cannibalism!!11!"
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JetteAuLoinTRP 9y ago
She basically looks like she has cancer. Like... really. Fuck. 29 ? Jeez...
xwm 9y ago
29? From the picture I just assumed 45. Holy shit.
whatgold 9y ago
Who is this under carbed Massey girl? Google freelee the banana girl. High carb vegan is where it's at. Fight through the misinformation.
redpillthrower 9y ago
I have multiple problems with the 80/10/10ers and the fruitarians and freelee. First of all durian rider is a huge douche, probably the leastlikeable fitness guy i've ever seen, id rat her watch dr oz or sixpackshortcuts. Second almost all the people that do that seem to be not only very slim and not muscular, they put in hours of cardio EVERY day. Also she'll have a video saying why veganism is great, and than it will just be 10 minutes of slaughterhouse shit, like i give a fuck.
They also are disliked by almost all nutrition people i have seen. I think if i were to have tried an excessively high fructose diet like they did when i lost my weight i would probably have come close to death.
whatgold 9y ago
Like TRP. The opinions of the masses are usually wrong.
redpillthrower 9y ago
I mean by people that practice it and are successful and people that i usually go to for information about it.
whatgold 9y ago
Not enough carbs and calories. Check out Vegan Gains on YouTube. Most vegans aren't doing it right. Oreo's are technically vegan. High carb starch/fruit based is the only way.
niczar 9y ago
There's no such thing as "not enough carbs."
Di-onysos 9y ago
Doesn't help the chronic absence of fat-soluble vitamins in diet, getting way too much copper relative to zinc(murders test levels, increases estrogen), absence of vitamin B12 nor the absence of quality saturated fatty acids for the brain, myelin sheaths and cell membranes
Parents who grow their kids up vegan should be jailed for child abuse.
whatgold 9y ago
Everything here is complete and utter bullshit.
The Okinawans and 7th day adventists would be plagued by terrible disease if true. Yet they're the longest living people in the world.
Do your research people, its a pain to wade through the bullshit just like it was a pain to swallow TRP, but as you know, it's worth it.
Americans have the highest calcium intake yet highest osteoporosis. Mineral intake alone means absolutely nothing, don't let idiots who haven't spent years studying health, curing incurable diseases, influence your health decisions.
Di-onysos 9y ago
"Americans have the highest calcium intake yet highest osteoporosis"
Do you know why? They don't get enough vitamin K2. Sources for it are
ORGAN MEATS grassfed meat fish, especially fish roe grassfed dairy & cheeses & some cheeses like gouda that are fermented with specific bacteria that produce vitamin k2 and finally japanese dish called natto, which is fermented soybeans and pretty much unavailable outside japan
eat your damn QUALITY meat for health
and the funniest part is that you bring up the okinawans http://stan-heretic.blogspot.fr/2009/10/beware-of-okinawa-diet-scam.html
"And what do Okinawans eat? The main meat of the diet is pork, and not the lean cuts only. Okinawan cuisine, according to gerontologist Kazuhiko Taira, “is very healthy-and very, very greasy,” in a 1996 article that appeared in Health Magazine.19 And the whole pig is eaten-everything from “tails to nails.” Local menus offer boiled pigs feet, entrail soup and shredded ears. Pork is cooked in a mixture of soy sauce, ginger, kelp and small amounts of sugar, then sliced and chopped up for stir fry dishes. Okinawans eat about 100 grams of meat per day-compared to 70 in Japan and just over 20 in China-and at least an equal amount of fish, for a total of about 200 grams per day, compared to 280 grams per person per day of meat and fish in America. Lard-not vegetable oil-is used in cooking"
technical knockout on vegetarist scum. I await your applause
RedSunBlue 9y ago
Thank you. I can't believe these nimwits who go around spouting BS without doing even a cursory Google search.
Okinawans also work well into advanced age and have strong familial ties, and those are both shown to be positively correlated with longevity.
whatgold 9y ago
Okinawans eat very little meat compared to the western world. 7th day adventists eat none. If you have an emotional attachment to eating meat that's fine, but you're still wrong, it's not healthy.
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bertmaklinFBI 9y ago
Where do you get your organic grass fed meat? They certify that all the grass the cow eats is organic? Do you know if your "organic" grass fed meat is really just grass finished?
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Di-onysos 9y ago
Actually I don't eat grassfed meat(or meat)right now for two reasons: 1: the one you said. What often happens is that the animals are fed grass through their life but before butchering they can spend weeks in feedlots waiting for the knife and eating grain all the while, which defeats the purpose. Second, it's fucking expensive and I'm not rich
So what I do is I eat a whole lot of fish which is cheaper, and buy butter that's from 100% certified grassfed animals & unpasteurized. That way I get the good fats and the fat-soluble vitamins relatively easily and cheaply.
bertmaklinFBI 9y ago
Fish you run into the same problem. Wild caught is crazy expensive and farm raised fish are fed everything and anything like cows. That's why I don't bother any more.
Where do you get unpasteurized butter? Closest GF butter I can get it Kerry Gold.
OzzyF 9y ago
Fun fact: canned fish tends to be wild caught. Yeah you're gonna eat more sodium but it still cost a fraction of what wild caught fish would otherwise cost.
bertmaklinFBI 9y ago
You are right cost wise but taste wise it isn't the same thing. When you eat clean every day there is nothing better than a nice piece of meat off the grill with salt, pepper, and butter. Keeps me sane.
Di-onysos 9y ago
out of the lean fish, tuna and cod are cheap, and of the fattier ones sardines and mackerel.
don't live in the US so I can't help you with finding quality butter
bertmaklinFBI 9y ago
Figured you were outside the US if you have access to pasteurized butter.
Not so cheap here. Tuna and Cod (wild caught) are 10-15 usd/lb. Grass fed beef is around 7 usd/lb. Chicken breast (normal grain fed) is 3 usd/lb. And sardines and mackerels aren't really efficient/cost effective when I am eating 50 grams of protein per meal.
Di-onysos 9y ago
wow, those fish prices are expensive, I pay half that
you could look into this http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/ButterOil/
bertmaklinFBI 9y ago
Lucky man.
Appreciate the link.
Goomich 9y ago
That girl from Protein World ad is vegan, though.
AnAdventureCore 9y ago
And I would gladly eat the hell out of her.
nomadicwilk 9y ago
oh yeah she's definitely good for the gains... i know where i'd start
rp_valiant 9y ago
it's not impossible to be nutritionally healthy and vegan, it's just hard and many hipster vegans don't put in enough effort to manage their vitamins and macros.
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NedHenry 9y ago
Hey, what do you think about Soylent, by the way?
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redditarcm89 9y ago
It tastes like really bad vanilla protein powder mixed with cardboard, and has shitty macros.
I eat a customized ketogenic, vegan, chocolate version every now and then, though.
rp_valiant 9y ago
not that we carnivores regularly drink lambs blood (although that would be metal as fuck).
plus wouldn't that cause issues with coagulation in your stomach?
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rp_valiant 9y ago
yeah you're probably right.
Tomorrow's preworkout meal: sacrifice a lamb to the Iron Gods and consume it whole.
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rp_valiant 9y ago
in the words of Lt Col. Kazinski: I just felt my dick move.
Cyralea 9y ago
The rest of your post is on point, but this isn't good advice. Organic has no benefits over non-organic. It's pseudoscientific hippie babble.
A lot of nutrition is non-intuitive. Frozen vegetables, for example, typically have more nutrients than fresh, because they've degraded less from the time they were picked to the time they're on your plate at home.
Di-onysos 9y ago
Grass contains vitamin K1. When the animals eat it, they convert it to vitamin K2(which humans cannot do because we aren't ruminants) which then goes to their tissues aka meat. Vitamin K2 is a fat-soluble vitamin that makes calcium go to the right places in your body, aka teeth & bones. Vitamin K2 is the reason why the japanese have half the osteoporosis western countries have even though their calcium intake is only a fraction of ours(japs get their K2 from fermented soybeans, that is also what from vitamin k2 supplements are made). And vitamin k2 raises testosterone. By the way, if you needed braces as kid, you didn't have enough k2. instrumental for teeth development.
good explanation on how grassfed meat's fat composition shits over industrial http://mountaindogdiet.com/nutrition/protein/grass-fed-beef/
good read also http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seanhyson.com%2Farticle%2Feat-fat-to-burn-fat-musclefitness-july-11.pdf&ei=KSFKVcmbPOGjyAPYqoCYCA&usg=AFQjCNHadKYB55DhlMOHms8EdM3ZnR6Phg
RPB1 9y ago
Non-organic foods and meats contain more endocrine disrupting compounds. The animals are also fed a diet of grains instead of a natural diet of nutrient rich grass (which worsens the nutrition profile in the meat). This is almost common knowledge by now.
Many factory farms also keep their animals in small spaces where they are more prone to small cuts that get infected, requiring the use of anti-biotics which get passed on to the consumer and reduces your gut flora population.
Even upon visual inspection, grass fed ground beef is red and browns when it cooks while "conventional" beef is pink and turns grey before it turns brown (by then it's burnt).
Plenty of literature on this that isn't self-funded confirmation bias by food giants with skin in the game.
There are certainly pseudoscientific hippies out there who think drinking kale juice will make you immortal, but the people going in the other extreme asserting there is no difference between organic and non are simply hamstering, ignorant, or both.
Cyralea 9y ago
That's some grade-A bullshit. No, they don't. Do you understand what a non-organic organism is? For starters, non-organic pesticides are designed to biodegrade well before they hit your table. Organic pesticides, not so much.
Want to know some actual endocrine disruptors? They're all organic.
Introducing novel proteins into organisms isn't a mystery science. We know exactly what we're putting in there, and we can test toxicity in labs. GMO's are not the monsters they're made out to be by scientifically ignorant hippies.
RPB1 9y ago
One: I didn't mention GMOs even once. Just because something is non-organic doesn't necessarily make it GMO. Straw man.
Two: Perform your due diligence on Glyphosate and then get back to me.
Cyralea 9y ago
Oh, you mean the compound widely considered to be environmentally and safe due to its low toxicity? So much so that it's considered an epidemic that insects are developing a resistance to it?
You're not talking to someone uneducated on this. Don't spout lies in this sub, you will be called out for it.
RPB1 9y ago
Nice try bro.
Glyphosate-based herbicides are toxic and endocrine disruptors in human cell lines
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539684
Glyphosate induces human breast cancer cells growth via estrogen receptors.
A glyphosate-based herbicide induces necrosis and apoptosis in mature rat testicular cells in vitro, and testosterone decrease at lower levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22200534
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That's just the tip of the iceberg. Continue your homework on your own time. That is all.
Cyralea 9y ago
You're looking at direct glyphosate exposure on hepatic liver cells. Poor measure of how it actually functions when consumed. The LD50 in rats is over 5000 mg/kg. It's extremely safe.
OzzyF 9y ago
Grassfed livestock has a better essential fatty acid profile.
Cyralea 9y ago
My contention is specifically with organic vs. non-organic.
RPB1 9y ago
Organic beef tends to be grass fed while non-organic is almost always grain fed.
Cyralea 9y ago
Still not an argument for organic. Grass-fed non-organic is just as good as grass-fed organic.
RPB1 9y ago
Way to miss the point there bro. You're arguing the virtues of organic vs non organic when my response is very specific: organic beef is grass fed. Ergo, buying organic beef will result in the desired nutritional profile.
You can sit there arguing in circles looking for an uncommon brand of non-organic grass fed beef, or you can do the smart thing and just buy whatever meat is grass fed, which will likely be organic.
Cyralea 9y ago
Organic isn't always grassfed, and grass-fed isn't always organic. Your argument is irrelevant.
RPB1 9y ago
I said "tends to". We're dealing in probabilities, not absolutes. Calm your opinionated titties and read.
RedSovereign 9y ago
You were civil up until this point. Take a time-out.
SariaLystra 9y ago
I use rep to failure as a way to get past the plateau. As a result, I can usually bench 10 more pounds than the previous 2 weeks. So I agree: there are no tricks but blood, sweat, and tears (and time since nothing comes immediately).
BannedAlpha 9y ago
oh 10lbs a week added to your bench, that seems like you'll be able to keep that up for a while...
SariaLystra 9y ago
I do sports competitively so I'm not aiming for mass but I'm aiming for high reps and endurance. But yeah slow and steady, right?
CherryPickTheGirls 9y ago
Bored of your style.
Good material.
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