Hi guys,
I am redpilled for about a year and I am currently 25. Sadly Reddit has decided to censor our community so I am gladly joining this forum.
I actually have a question for you guys.
How promiscuous is too promiscuous?
I have a gf of 2 years which I believe it or not succesfully redpilled myself. She agrees with hypergamy etc. She also has very good qualities like housekeeping and cooking skills, being very loyal etc.
What bothers me is her past. She has been with about 20 guys at the age of 22. Most being ons and some being long term. She also had an absent father in her youth. I think the number may be a little deflated but not much more than 25. Although we met trough Tinder and she offered me sex on our first date.
So my question stands.
Where do you guys draw the line? At which point is there no possibility of making up those red flags through other qualities?
Btw I'm about a 7 and she is about a 6-7 but ofc as a woman she would rank herself at leat 2 points higher.
further questions:
I got referred to a asktrp sidebar .. what is this? If some guys here refer to any rules do they mean tomassi rules?
thx in advance
Whisper 2y ago
High partner counts DO NOT destroy women's ability to pair bond. Instead, they INDICATE women with an inability to keep a man.
“Ten spears go to battle, and nine shatter. Did the war forge the one that remained? No... All the war did was identify the spear that would not break.” -Brandon Sanderson
Seagram7 2y ago
I think going into double digits is bad. I based this on the "jump test:"
Average dick is 6 inches. Multiply 6 by her body count. Divide that answer by 12. That answer is the length of dick she has had in feet. Now picture a platform at that height and she jumps off it.
Example: 6 inches times her body count of 20 equals 120 inches. 120 inches divided by 12 inches equals 10 feet. That's the height of the platform and at 10 feet she is going to break both of her legs.
Her promiscuity is a huge Red Flag to something deeper happening in her psyche. 20 guys at 22 years old, that many men as sexual partners at such a young age is a huge indicator (Red Flag) that she she is battling some personal inner demons that you dont know about. Be prepared for the roller-coaster ride of emotions she is going to take you on.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
I don't understand why they don't put the side bar link in the side bar... smh. Here is one version I found https://4d2tj7zgvuho5ipodjdccd6ugm5fs5j3xbsgjssl4vttc4qvq2vq.arweave.net/4PU0_yatDu6h7hpGIQ_UMzpZdTu4ZGTKS-VnMXIVhqs
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with promiscuous women. I love whores. There's nothing more enjoyable than eating out a pussy dripping with cum and sharing bodily fluids with dozens of men. The problem comes when you try to LTR them. It's hard to tell if the kid is yours.
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah I'm serious but I'm also bi so YMMV.
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Fullmemb 2y ago
This has actually been the most non toxic relationship I ever had. Like I said if I would not know her bodycount I would say that she is indeed perfect relationship material. I just want to make sure I don't suffer from oneitis. Are there any valid cases a redpilled guy wants to have a relationship despite these red flags?
At the start of our relationship I also did not know about the red pill. So I am just recently asking questions.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
so, she's about 24 yo then?
You been with her for 2 years. Who pays for things. Dates,etc, who pays? You live together? What's the arrangement.
Why am I asking this stuff? Are you the provider? What's her job income and whats yours?
You rate yourself a 7 , do you lift, are you muscular, thin, fit?
You want to know , are you the provider for her, her beta? If she's been with 20 guys and most were ONS, Tinder guys, you are almost guaranteed to not be her alpha. Who do you think she was swiping right on with Tinder?
So, keep that in mind. She's had fun for years, with hot tinder guys using her as a fuck toy. Now she meets you, a nice guy, who pays for stuff?
Think about it.
pfeilmacher 2y ago
Enjoy fucking her. Enjoy her company. Be a gentleman to her. Don't shame her about her past. Don't ever bring it up again. Keep looking for a keeper, because she is not a keeper.
One of the best fuck buddies I've ever had was highly promiscuous. She guesstimated she'd been with about 100 guys. She was attentive, loyal, honest, etc. But I would have never made her a LTR because she was a fucking hoe.
We are still great friends. But that's it.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
Yup, I had several FB relationships, they were great girls, lot's of fun. But they all wanted more and pushed for it. They were all pissed that I only viewed them as a FB, never as a girl worthy of a LTR.
They all got married and had kids. Honestly wish them well and hope they have good relationships with their husbands.
but, that wasn't gonna be me.
pfeilmacher 2y ago
This is the correct attitude right here.
Whores and hoes are to be used for sexual gratification. Losers and simps will put a ring on their finger, but a smart man would never.
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Pfizer 2y ago
Thats something
How did you.find out, was she straight about it?
pfeilmacher 2y ago
She was totally straight about it. Didn't try to hide it because she knew I didn't care about her body count.
I've found that giving off strong "I won't judge you vibes" is key to a woman's honesty. But of course, I judge them all.
Pfizer 2y ago
How much of cognitive dissonance do you experience doing 'I.dont j7dge' thing.
I ask coz for me it takes some Mental effort, less so if I.dont care at all about a woman. but then last one I really didnt care about couldnt make even nut after certain period of time I was seeing n' her.
(Disclaimer I only take notes of.certain things since being TRP conscious cant ascertain things prior)
pfeilmacher 2y ago
NGL, it takes some effort, given my natural inclination to shame/punish bad behaviors. Plus, I really do want to be with women who haven't been super slutty....so I cringe inside a bit when start talking about sexual history in an open, free, non-judgemental way.
One of the reasons I don't date women who are in their middle-late 20s and beyond is because I know there is almost no chance they don't have a ridiculous body count.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
I "act" like I don't care about a woman's past and get her to talk. In fact, I really don't care when I meet them, I'd only really care about her N count and past, if I'm thinking about getting in a LTR with her.
am I ashamed of that? no. I want to hear the truth , or as close as I'd ever get to hear it. Most woman will always hold stuff back, even if drunk,etc.
am I ashamed of judging her on it? No, Why would I be? The past is a great predictor of the future and of her "true" self.
Stop believing in the MSM bullshit, admit that the past DOES matter.
So, this girls didn't do a couple of ONS with Tinder guys, she say's she did like 20. Now, is it 20 or really like 60? Remember, women always under count. They don't count the guys who weren't fun, the guys who couldn't make them cum, or whatever. They undercount.
Majority of girls will have had a ho phase. You try to find out some of the details, like the ONS tinder stuff is bad news. The girls a plate.
If she's really great, fine, have her pay for everything, let's see how much she loves you.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
This is a very hard philosophical question if you get down to it. But like how the DSM in psychiatry doesn't count most disorders as a disorder unless it "impairs functioning" I am going to answer this question metaphorically and say that being too promiscuous is when a girl has or is (or both) inclined enough to fuck around that it impairs her ability to pair bond
Once a girl either regularly fucks enough different men or at least has in the past, to the point she cannot pair bond any more, she's too promiscuous
Pfizer 2y ago
Thats a good definition.
There is only this one thing, did you meet there before or after ho phase. Shroeddingers splat.
unplugged69 2y ago
Don't try to redpill women, you gain nothing out of it. They do not process information the same way men do, if they did we wouldn't need tips on dating and it would be just as easy as dating other men.
The truth is lad she has a lot of red flags, but if she acts well and you enjoy the relationship then who cares. Just be careful of getting oneitis, and don't think she's a unicorn because she certainly isn't. Learn about the redpill for when the inevitable happens, and don't tell her shit. Just work on yourself, lift, learn, improve your career, have a healthy lifestyle with lots of friends and don't act like a doormat with her. That's literally all you need to know for now.
If/when you break up, you need to start spinning plates to learn how the game is really played, that will give you a better handle on your next LTR
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
The worse she is the less she's worth.
Who cares if she agrees with it or not? Her agreeing "yeah, hypergamy happens" changes nothing and is not a greenflag. We don't let serial killers go free just because they confess.
That's high.
"About 20" means a lot more than 20, you know that right?
She might rank herself as a 9, but that makes her a 7 who thinks she is a 9. That is not the same as a 9.
Look...... it's up to you. Your life, your choice.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
(she might rank herself as a 9, but that makes her a 7 , who thinks she's a 9)
Yup and that's gonna be an issue, the girl thinks way too much of herself. She will be high maintenance , she will look for better,etc.
This girl just put herself in the at best a (plate) club, nothing more.