I thought it might be useful for some guys to know about women in different regions of Europe. Most of the PUA/TRP material was written 20-30 years ago (hundreds of years in terms of how tech changed the game) and most of it is no longer useful or as applicable, specially the PUA parts, besides the basics.
The zoomers and millennials have to share notes for their dating cohorts since they cannot truthfully rely on boomer/gen X advice. Very different times.
Western and Northern Europe: Perfect for hookups, if you are young and all you want is to fuck, go to Western EU. Assuming you are not a trad cuckold and a decent man, you will get laid. If you are looking for an LTR and have at least some common fucking sense, at least a hobby besides not working or coming home from work and burping beer on your couch, a pint of testosterone in you and you want your woman want to share expenses or not be a gold digger the likes of Eastern and Southern EU, you have the most chances of finding a woman like that here.
Central/Eastern Europe: Central EU is the middle ground between hookup culture and decent women. People still date in Central EU and the economy is still good.
Eastern EU, however, is a fucking shithole and you should avoid it not just because of the horendous economic conditions and low IQ people, but you will find here the most ruthless gold diggers and manipulators. Women in eastern EU appear very tradwife type so that they can attract and settle a beta, whether local or the jackpot, a foreigner.
Eastern Women will have 5 gangbangs in a week and still come home cooking you dinner and they will still look innocent, like nothing happened. Soulless devils. You should not expect these women to share any expenses with you, in fact, most hot chicks will look down on you for considering that.
Southern Europe/Balkans: Southern EU is good for tourism and partying in the summer. Lots of hot women, many are DTF, vacation sex and cheating is very common here. Poor area besides Spain and Portugal.
Balkan region is also a shithole, much more comparable to Eastern Europe, but the people here are more rude and most hot young women are down for some type of sugar dating, specially in Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia. This region also has the most population loss due to poor economic and social conditions, Romania lost like 10 million people in the last 20 years and most young people are fleeing the country for the Western World. A bit worse in Serbia because they are not part of the EU, you will have a bit more russian type of dating here, which you want to avoid.
Also, I found Romania to be the most feminist place in the Central/Eastern European plane. Many gen Z chicks here are fucked up in the head and are open or practicing some form of sugar dating. Hot corporate boss babes also practice sugar dating here, so be wary. Many gypsies in this region, high crime rate, but not comparable to UK or France. Shit economic and social conditions, sad and rude people in many places.
Now in regards to the age bracket, here is my experience:
18-25: These are the women that are the most DTF out of all the brackets. They are curious, fun, some of them agreeable and some won't mind an LTR with a good guy.
25-33: These are the most insufferable women that are out there. Late gen Z/early millennials. Many have their bitch shield up 24/7, they are mad cause they rode the carousel and guys that they wanted did not commit to them. They are "recalibrating" their life and dealing with "big traumas" so most of them are in some form unavailable. Many will play the game of flirting, licking, kissing and sleazeballing but when the opportunity to seal the deal arises, they will retreat from having sex with many guys. This age bracket is the definition of left over white girl blood.
33-40: This age bracket is another good bracket for casual sex, as I found that many hot women around this age are actively looking for 24-28 yr old jocks. They are more pleasant and open to have conversations with since they have to lower their standards and bitch shields if they want to get fucked. I've had lots of good, fun sex with these women.
So I think if you want to get laid as much as you can for a period of time, 18-25 and 33-40 are the golden brackets. However, be aware that social media (TikTok shit) plays a huge role in the mind and the attitude of these women.
Realize that women now learn about how to "love" men via social media. TikTok teaches them how to "love" men, which we all know what a fucking shithole of brainrot TikTok is. These aren't the 80's or 90's no more. You will deal and need to learn how to deal with these gen Z chicks based on their brainrot from SM. TRP is not a one size fits all and needs to constantly evolve and adapt to an ever-changing world and dating scene.
As an extra, I find that many women are leaving the clubbing scene, since they are flooded with inferior third world immigrants. The new dating/hookup scenes are social activities/events/sport during the daytime so night game will serve you almost no good and you will need to learn how to calibrate and to be better at daygame.
Lone_Ranger 2 1w ago
I don't get guys who think that the passport bro thing is a good idea.
Guys that grab their passport and go to poorer countries looking for chicks are litearlly setting themselves up for being divorce raped. Think about this carefully - when a western dude with a passport, a job and US/UK residency walks into a poorer country 'looking to date' they literally put themselves on a hit list for gold diggers.
It's beyond naive.
And its pointless too. If you live in the USA, you already have access to millions of poor desperate third and second world women. Just flirt with the cleaner in your office. She is a poor mexican / latam girl, with big dreams of 'landing the whale'. The whale is you. She will bat her eyelashes and pretend to be virtuous (I've never done things like this before). What she wants is the lifestyle, not you.
Women can fake it pretty good. Passport dudes get what they deserve. They think they are being clever, they are not.
lambOfGod 1w ago
yes. Same applies to dudes who live in Western Europe and go to Eastern/Southern and Southeastern Europe
Lone_Ranger 2 1w ago
I recommend every guy to try the experience of being broke. I've been a broke student, and I've been rich. When you are broke, you get schooled. You will meet all kinds of women, and you will quickly see that kinds of women are not into you. And if you are lucky, you will meet a girl that is interested in you.
When you are rich, you will never really know if they are interested in you, or what they think they can get from you.
If you are rich, I advise you to conceal it. Stealth Wealth.
Going to a poor country and then 'going on trips' with women is retarded. That very same woman that agrees to come on trips with you would not spit on you if she thought you were poor.
MrSupreme 1w ago
True about the being broke experience, learned it the hard way.When i had a decent living all sorts of women would at least chat, when broke they wouldn't even look my way, some "friends" would ghost as well.
lambOfGod 1w ago
Maybe if they are going on trips with them solely for fucking them, knowing it's kind of a pay for play but with traveling, that would do it. But it has to be crystal clear in your mind that this is just a fuck buddy, more of a hybrid of a sugar babe and that you should not invest emotionally in her like that.
Some dudes prefer to do that and I think it's fine, if you have that money to throw around
Lone_Ranger 2 1w ago
can you not see how sad it is for men to be paying for the gf experience? It's the ultimate humiliation. It's far worse than just going to a prostitute.
lambOfGod 1w ago
Yes, it is sad. But for some men that is their only option, or so they perceive it. You can't red pill other people. If that is how they choose to get their piece of ass, let them have it. Life is short, sucks and then you die. You might as well do it if you want to, no one cares. Depends on your values or context.
I bet you wouldn't say this if you were 65, with lots of capital and resources, closer to death due to age and a hot piece of 20 something ass - that is not an escort but wants to live some experience on a yacht or an exotic country because she want to capitalize on her beauty while she is young - would come to you and say she'd let you do what you want to her if you go on a trip to a foreign country with her.
Guys, leave your fucking ego at the door cause you will loose a lot in life. I know that if I would be 50-60-70 in that scenario, I'd do it, fuck it, I don't give a fuck about what others think.
You don't want to die of old age in a hospital with your 401k still intact. Might as well blow it on some hot piece of ass god damn it. Haha
derdeutscher 1w ago
As someone who lived in few countries in Europe, this post is big bullshit. Few good points and rest is bunch of generalizations. And good points being lucky guess, instead of a proper opinion.
There is bigger percentage of gold diggers among eastern European women compared to western women, but its a small difference.
These two things are correct, rest if bunch of assumptions that may or may not be true depending who do you meet.
I have been traveling to Croatia, Czech, and Poland last year, and after these three countries west Europe looks like a very massive shithole. So I do not know what are your criterium for "shithole".
Anyway..
lambOfGod 1w ago
I never said Central Europe was a shithole. Croatia, Czech, are Central, not balkan or eastern. Learn some geography.
By the way, Germany sucks ass and every european hates germans. Wait until Poland and Sweden get nuclear weapons this year and see germans tremble. Saddest and most rigid people in the world.
MrSupreme 1w ago
The way you describe the Balkans sounds like the shithole I'm at. Massive exodus of people,mostly between 25-34, a lot of old people here, women are very hot but most looking for sugar dating. Except people here are the "happy caribbean" type. I understand european women are very hot but the best places for european and north american men are still southeast asia and latinamerica, both for beauty and It seems there are still plenty of more conservative women that can be decent wife material.
Newbie-Casanova 1w ago
I've had dudes who spent time in both areas of the map and majority say Latam women are just for fun. Slavics are more wifey. But like OP said, master manipulators
Newbie-Casanova 1w ago
Thanks for the share. As someone who spent time in LATAM. I was looking to diversify my experience more. Latinas are straight whores unless they're from and still live in a small city.
Is Poland considered EE? If so you would consider them gold diggers and whores too? I heard they are the least gold digger type compared to Ukraine and russia
lambOfGod 1w ago
Yes, compared to the eastern europe (Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Baltic states) Poland is good. Poland is Central Europe. However, you have to have your shit in order and be a man. You have to have a good pint of provider these european women. Not too much tho.
You americans need to understand one thing. Life in US is still the best on the planet, specially economically, fun and opportunity wise. Life in the rest of the world is tough, including Europe. So when you americans go in the 2nd and 3rd world, women will play nice and act wifey because life is tough for them in those shitholes. You have to understand that you are a target and you must know this.
Unless you met her as in immigrant in your country, you having to go there, in her country, puts you on a "list". However, there is a way to come out victorious in this and have a woman that is genuinely attracted to you in that country, but you have to know women really well and have a solid, complex and diverse experience with many types of women, which most passport bros don't have.
Also, to a certain degree, more or less, every relationship is transactional. It's up to you as a man and your frame to determine how much of that is beta-based transaction or something like that
If you can't get laid, pull, or can't get into LTRs with women in your country, don't even think of going overseas. You will be an ATM.