I'm a single dad. Here's my horror story:

I had a live-in GF about 10 years back. She was a fucking nightmare. Bitching about everything under the sun; constant accusations of cheating despite the fact I was faithful; etc. She got pregnant (despite the claims of "being on the pill"). As shitty as the relationship was, I decided to try to stick it out. I proposed marriage, but she said "no." I was there for the birth, signed the birth certificate, the whole nine. Within 6 months of the birth, her baby weight was gone and so was she. Took my daughter with her. I started paying child support the week she left so I couldn't get hit with arrears. I established a weekly visitation schedule (every weekend). My social life up and died right then and there and hasn't ever really returned. She has lived with 5 different men in 10 years, marrying two of them and having one other child with a third on the way (all from different guys). I am constantly accused of being a "deadbeat dad" despite the fact that I have never been behind in child support for so much as one day and have maintained a fairly regular visitation schedule (law school made it really hard to head home for visitation for 3 years and she wouldn't let my daughter stay with me while I was in school). I'm currently filling out the paperwork for court to shut her ever-bitching mouth for the final time. Guys, don't EVER date a single mom. I've never met a single mom who wasn't a single mom BY CHOICE. ("I wasn't HAAAAAPPY.") They will NEVER stick to their commitments in regards to a mate. They ETERNALLY LEECH from the government, their family, their ex, their friends, and whatever unlucky bastard they date. You'll see them deny the father rightful visitation time for their own convenience or spite, whichever happens to come first in their little EZ Bake brains. They'll dog that man to death and lie on his name at any and every given opportunity while spending the child support money on "cute boots." I swear, courts ought to automatically give custody to the man in EVERY SINGLE CASE and make that bitch fight tooth and nail for supervised visitation. If you ARE dating a single mom, know this: everything she told you about that kid's dad is a lie of the highest magnitude. In a few months, you will surely see what a bat-shit crazy bitch she is. Don't EVER give that man a shit attitude or ANY flak. He's had enough of that for five lifetimes.

From age 13 on, I was raise just by my mother, my father passed away from liver and lung cancer. My mother was an angel, still is. She's an absolute saint of a woman, however, I can see how it hindered me not having a father. She allowed me to be "ok" and whatever I did was "good enough" which is not a bad thing per se, it just killed a lot of drive I may have had.

I was AAU baseball, all state wrestling when my dad passed away, after that, I gave up sports, became introverted. Ballooned up to 270 pounds in high school at 5'8''. My mother by nature was a nurturer. I tend to think if my dad had still been around, he'd have pushed me to do better athletically and academically if nothing more than to just make him proud.

All that being said, I love my mother for everything she did for me growing up, I can't take that away.

I understand your point. However there are also many amazing single mothers who despite having come out of a shifty relationship still do a great job raising their kid(s) and eventually start looking for another life partner.

Did you get burned, Mr. Illimitableman? By, say, a single man? They're not all bad. They're not all great. Definitely not 99.9% of them are bad. Do you know how many of them have had abusive husbands? Ones that got deep into drugs? You know, real pieces of shit guys? A whole lot more than 0.1% of single moms are in this situation.

Don't get me wrong, a large portion of single moms fit your mold, but a LARGE portion got dealt a shitty hand for choosing a shitty husband/boyfriend/fling.

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This post is shit.

Just angry whining, and contributes nothing to the body of knowledge.

AWALT, everyone already knows that, whether she is a single mom or not.

Are single mothers even worth plating. Assuming you make sure to never see the kid and don't let her move in? Is it worth the risk of someone who is probably DTF or better to avoid even talking to?

Idk why this is still pinned. I owe everything to my single mom. She brought me to the U.S. with her and pursued her masters while working and being a single mom. Never once got child support or benefits for anything. Sure, I didn't get the nice red pill upbringing, but you gotta play the hand that you're dealt.

I have read this thread every day since it was posted. It does not get old. The anger was perfectly portrayed. It really drives the points home.

Your writing style is impressive.

I knew a girl I met shortly after high school that was dating a friend of mine. She had two kids from a previous marriage and told my buddy she had her tubes tied. Not too long after that she got pregnant and took him to court for child support. We used to party in her mobile home :) and her son would wake up and walk out to the kitchen at 3am to see 5-6 guys and his mom drinking and partying around the kitchen table. She would yell at him and tell him to go back to bed. 30 years later the son is a complete train wreck himself. He lives in section 8 housing, collects SSI disability due to stress, and has 7 kids himself. I have also seen very good women trying to raise multiple kids with zero help from the loser father. Not all single mothers are complete losers and not all men deserve a get out of jail free card. I know mothers that work two jobs while baby daddy sits at home smoking weed and drinking all day.

Being a single mother just screams, "piss-poor judgment." The whole, "maybe the dad was a deadbeat," argument doesn't fly, because even if that's true, the woman had to choose to be with the douchebag in the first place. Sure, the father might be scum that walked out on her, but she had to make the decision to be with him and stay long enough (or fuck recklessly enough) to get knocked up.

Pretty sure this needs to stay sticked, forever. In my purple days I made the mistake of dating 2 single mothers. Both hot. Both crazy. Listen to the men who have fucked up before you. Single mothers: not even once.

Longtime Lurker, first post here.

This hits home for me :(. This single mother (B) and I have a complicated history (TL;DR she's had a super unlucky and shitty upbringing, now has a terrible mentality and can't seem to get her shit together for her almost 1 year old baby) and I have been trying to help her break free from the cycle of poverty, but she is such a victim.

I hate saying that, because she IS a victim. I hadn't talked to her all summer (we live a state apart) and sent her one of those "You came into my thoughts, hope everything's going good for you" messages, and her immediate response was, "please help me." Turns out she once again wasn't critically thinking, only focusing short term, got into an abusive household and has been physically and sexual abused all summer. This whole ordeal has left a gut-wrenching feeling in me, and I can't put into words what it has been like to go through all of this.

I did everything I could for her- called abusive home shelters and safe houses, gave her links, contacts, anyone I could- but she won't help herself and it breaks my heart in two but I can't give her anymore of my time. She has ignored me and CHOSE to keep me in the dark and worrying myself sick about her. And this isn't the first time!

In our history, she has:

• ignored me almost every chance she gets for no reason

• offered me sex in return for helping her financially (I grew up some the day I went through those ordeals)

• thrown a shoe at my car and refused to "get in" after I drive us to a fatherly figure's house for advice (TL;DR trailer park hick tricked her into giving him her truck)

• would rave about how much she hates her baby daddy but would pull a 180 and let him in her house (trailer) and leave me feeling confused and heartbroken

This list goes on but I'm getting ready for work and I'm on mobile. God at first it WAS about sex, but I realized she's only ever been used. She has no family (a tragedy happened) so I've been trying to show her what real, unconditional love means, from one human to another, but she has been emotionally abusive and manipulative, and as much as it kills me I can't help her anymore.

She IS a victim. She does NOTHING to help her self. I am DONE letting her in my life. I will never stop caring about her from one human to another, but she needs to grow up, and try to become a decent mom, and I can't have toxic people like her in my life.

Thanks for this post. It's given me a place to express my feelings, something that I haven't been able to do anywhere else.

this will be an unpopular opinion on here, but the origin of single mothers and motherhood has just as much to do with men who shirk the responsibility of marriage and fatherhood. Lets not pretend here like the sole cause for single mothers in the U.S. is this conspiracy of women who eagerly and willingly wanted to lose their husband, and father to their child.

that being said, in law school you learn more women initiate or file for divorce than men do...for whatever their reasons may be. Its hard to draw conclusions or make any valid speculation as to why, but at least it helps to refute this notion that most men are trying to abandon their marriage.

lets stay objective here, guys.

Single mother's never appealed to me, simply because I always went into a relationship with the intent of it being long-term, and the idea of being responsible for raising another man's child never appealed to me. A lot of the men that date single mother's are low self-esteem beta bux types, that allow themselves to get whipped. They have issues needing to be resolved.

The other thing about single mother's is I actually see them as damaged goods. Invariably single mother's and most divorced women come with a shit load of baggage. My good mate Eugene, who personifies the whole beta bux stereotype, ended up marrying his girlfriend, who was a divorcee that rode the clock carousel before being able to find a mark, target and sucker like him who was dumb enough to accept her for who she is with her flaws. Well, his wife Catherine has been seeing a therapist non-stop for the last 7 years now!

Stay away from single mother's, and carefully screen divorced women, is my advice.

I recommend reading the book Thirty Seven by Quintius Curtius. I came across the guy on rooshV forums and was inspired by his comments. He's a great writer.

My neighbor is an example.

She's a 25ish blonde girl, extremely attractive even after bearing her daughter. I've seen daddy come pick up the daughter only twice in the 8 months I've lived above her. I also hear that mom's mom (grandmother) is a scathing bitch. Well, the apple fell close to the tree I guess.

Sometimes I'll hear the daughter crying, and I can also hear her screaming at the girl "WHY ARE YOU CRYING? JUST STOP CRYING!".

Not long ago, for a period of a few months there was a different guy at her condo. EVERY. SINGLE. NIGHT.

Once I was cleaning the condo at 7:00pm, I wasn't being too terribly loud. This bitch bangs on her fucking ceiling (my floor) instead of walking her capable fucking legs up the stairs to speak to me. This of course pissed me off since we are neighbors and it is best that we are civil with each other since we must live RIGHT FUCKING NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER. I put on a jacket and walk down to her door and knock. I try to be polite, and first introduce myself before alluding to asking a question I already know the answer to: what was the sound I heard on my floor? She of course has no self-control and snaps back "My daughter is sleeping blah blah blah". I politely explain that it is only 7pm and she does not own a home (the implication being that you must deal with neighbor noise sometimes goddammit). I told her that if we are too loud that she can "walk up the steps, knock on the door and speak to me...not bang on a ceiling like some sort of pilgrim". This part was gold: Cuz I ain't no bitch, she didn't disrupt frame when she snapped at me very rudely. I deepened my voice and slowed my voice when I responded, and I did so articulately. Her entire body language and tonality instantly flipped from HOSTILE BITCH to responsive. She thanked me as I walked away, even though I hadn't done anything to be thanked. Frame boys, frame.

More recently though, there was a guy who was there daily. I presume he was there to watch the daughter while mommy went to work (or off to fuck other dudes). I'm not really sure. All I know is I could hear shooter video games from 5:00am all the way into the evening, sometimes up to 12:00pm! So after days of my fucking condo shaking from the subwoofer, I go knock on their door, trying to keep my temper under control, and explain that I don't want to have any sort of neighbor conflicts and I'd like to keep a level of mutual respect, and ask if they could at least turn the subwoofer down to keep the bass from shaking everything in my condo. I could see my neighbor on the couch (why didn't she answer her own fucking door?). The guy responds politely and I didn't hear the sub for a while....as in about two weeks. Two weeks later, same shit. I go down again. She's home. I offer to show her how to turn the sub down. She says she didn't know how to do it and that she doesn't even use it. BULLSHIT BITCH because you know how to fucking unplug something you're not using. It should be an easy decision when considering that neighbors will obviously be disturbed. Anyway, I turn it down for her. Two weeks later: same shit.

I ran into the grandmother once (scathing bitch earlier mentioned) and she asked how things were going as neighbors. I told her we had some previous issues with noise and that I could hear video games being played at all hours of the day. I was making light of it, not being confrontational. She stared at me, bewildered, and said "but she doesn't play video games". I reiterated that it was in fact coming from her daughter's condo two more times. She just looked puzzled....LMFAO! This old-time CC-riding grandmother who bear this shitty lineage of daughters can't do the simple math here and figure out that it wasn't her daughter playing the games, but rather Chad Thundercock is ramming her asshole and playing Call of Duty.

I really feel bad for the daughter. She'll learn nothing but nastiness from her CC-riding lineage of single mothers.

This is late but I could use some insight. My dad cheated on my mom multiple times while married with me and brother. Should she have left? I can't figure out if my life would of been better or worse.

I was raised by a single mom for most of my life. Then when my step-dad came into the picture he was a prick and was only in it to be with my mom, he HATES my brother and I.

The only reason I am not like the kids you mentioned in your post is because of the internet.

God speed brother!!!! this is an amazing post!

EDIT: Oh and the recommended books?! Man i think i love you, No Homo. I'm new to the red pill.

My buddy's mom must be in that 0.1% then, because she's a single mom and raised him very well. His biological dad was a deadbeat, so she raise him herself, all while maintaining a healthy dating life.

I agree with a lot of the self empowerment on this forum, but a lot of the "hypergamous, immoral women" material on here is often bullshit. Making sweeping generalizations about an entire gender's character seems like something that should be supported by actual facts, an not just the opinions of armchair psychologists.

I recently came across a woman on Tinder who proudly proclaimed all over her bio that she was the single mother of nine children.

Nine.

Which is why we should support open access of abortions and contraception a to women. Let's not encourage anymore single motherhood. Also, guy pills

This isnt farfetched at all, my sister did the same exact thing word for word of the post above. Ultimately the male is the one who suffers in the end. Guys use a condom at all times, even when your hooking up. Just because she says shes on the pill doesn't mean she is. For really there are some really messed up women out there who will do this without any regard for the future, or a males life.

I can also tell you this right now, my former brother in law life got much worse. It was like watching a diseaster unfolding and being there front row and center. It takes one mistake with the wrong person to have your life dreams and goals go to shambles because of an unstable human being.

I cant make this more clear because the amount of suffering I witnessed was unbarrable at times, and no human needs to go through that at all.

Some ppl arent going to like reading about this, but fact of the matter is, is that this the truth. I am literally traumatized by what I experienced.

Woman are perfect human being, its always man fault. Equality at its best.

Can confirm : i was raised by a victim single mom!

Has anyone thought that being a single mom wasn't a choice or?

I'm not arguing the message but posts like this are way RP gets a bad rep.

Wow, I just wanted to state that for the first time in my life (i'm in my 30's) that I realized my mother was a "single mom" before she married my father. My parents have been married 40 years and they have a good happy life and two of my brothers went on to become pharmacist and mortgage banker.

This was 40 years ago that she was a single mom plus her husband was an alcoholic (as confirmed by my half-sister and half-brother) and slept around with many women. She also refused alimony and let the husband keep the house.

Widows, those that get divorced after having been married in some cases (the longer married the better), and possibly those that get artificially inseminated are fine. Those that have kids young and out of wedlock are almost universally scum, or damaged. I don't need to rationalize it, just recognize it.

I just went to a buddies place and his grandparents were having their 50-year anniversary. Fucking shame how rare it is to see that nowadays.

A girl at work is a single mother. She and the father of her little boy had a blow out argument that ended the relationship. I asked her once how involved her ex was in her son's life. While he is in fact involved there still is no substitute for being a full-time father to your kids. Seeing them once on the weekends or maybe once during the week just ain't gonna cut it.

The kid is 5 and I wonder what she is teaching him about life and how she must be instilling him with a lifetime of Beta beliefs.

She's 32 and I see some poor clueless beta falling into her trap, then the inevitable dead bedroom and eventually a divorce. But at least she'll get some cash and prizes out of the deal...and of course some of Chad's cock behind the clueless sap's back while he's married to her.

Single mother's are a Rent never a Buy. You'll never be very high on her list of priorities. Hit it and quit it. String her along for as much sex as possible. She's playing a game and so should you be.

We haven't got that problem when men are more responsible and/or keep it in their pants. The result of unchecked Patriarchy. More female-favorable and protecting laws/regulations needed. Also more men-shaming articles in the MSM needed. Society needs feminism right now more than ever.

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Hello from Europe, RP brothers! I've been lurking here over a year and this is my first post. It doesn't matter where you live - in the USA, Europe, Nigeria, Japan, Brazil or on the Moon - men need RP wisdom and truth about society everywhere.

I agree with the sentiment when this is true, but don't forget, there are actual men out there who were raised by a single mother after an actually abusive father left. I have a friend who's dad abused him and his mom very badly. Mostly beat his mom, but also him. He remembers it firsthand as well, so it's not any feminist-tainted rhetoric from a lying mother. His dad just left one day and never came home. Through working out, sports, and a very strong male role model in his mother's father, he grew up to be a very strong alpha male. Men who beat women and children to make themselves feel powerful are also subhuman scum. My dad beat me as a kid, and once I got strong enough as a teenager, he stopped. It took me a long time to ever forgive him, but he will never be a man to me. Don't give these beta cowards any room to say they are ok people and it's always the woman's fault. That said, fuck women like that.

That post somehow reminded me of this comic strip

I began to hate trp sub reddit. Because lifting bra.

But this hits home more than you think. My mother is an alpha widow , I am alpha spawn. My sister to. My sister though. She got knocked up by an alpha/chad that was in prison for grevious. She got a crothling because she wanted it. But tries to sell it as the world against her. I don't have a second of it. Nevertheless he is my nephew, he has alpha blood and shares DNA with me. He has things like an Xbox, DS xl. Because of me. I won't do a thing for her but I ended up liking him. And until I have a child, it's the only shared DNA I have floating around.

Fwiw I hate single mother's.

Here's how you can tell that 1% (or less) of single mothers who aren't shitbags like the rest: They blame themselves first and foremost. She'll say something like, "The man is a deadbeat, but I was the idiot who opened her legs."

I've known maybe... one of those in my entire life.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the statistics are for single fathers vs single mothers?

I've long contended that (IMHO) the father is, by far, the most important parent.

I'd like to say 99.9% is an exaggeration, but it probably is really close to the mark. Take a random group of 1000 single mothers and the majority are usually intolerable. My father who is stuck between trp and tbp fails at critics thinking here. He still wants to believe women are special and are heroic for taking the basic responsibility to care for the kid they irresponsibly had in the first place.

I see a lot of people here still in the anger phase but it honestly just makes me a bit sad for the world. Imagine a country run by truly red pill men. That'd be nice.

Child of a mother who divorced my father when I was young here. I was raised to believe my father was a douche bag to my mom when I was young, and that's why they got divorced. Well, I got older and talked to my dad. My mom was fucking crazy at times too. He's not perfect, but yes, she played the victim card to the max. One day she tried to do it again and I went off on her. Shit stopped. My Dad is still kind of an impossible to please POS, but he's there for me when I need him for emergencies. He's RP as fuck, but can't express love at all. Anyway, yeah, they fuck kids up. I was an omega before I came here. My life has done nothing but flourish since I found this sub.

I was raised by a single mother who trapped my biological father by having me. He runs away, and she snags another man by having a baby with him. I even remember growing up and hearing them fight and my stepfather would scream "you had {my step sister} to keep me here!"

I secretly hated her so much for creating this fucked up world im in. Putting me with a step father who wanted nothing more than to get rid of me. Making me live with brothers and sister who are not the same blood as me. I fucking hate single mothers.

I grew up hating men. The only thing that saved me from being a blue pill beta baby daddy is the advice and experience i got while in the army.

Women know better than anyone that single mothers are disasters.

Early in my transformation,. I told my wife if she didnt see things my way about a major child rearing decison then she was free to be a single mom. And we would still do it my way.

The look on her face...priceless.

You would think she saw a ghost.

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I've said this before - want to solve the single mother epidemic? Make child support voluntary.

Once they know the "pay cheques" aren't guaranteed they'll close those legs/start using their brains.

Making child support voluntary might teach them some manners when a relationship goes shit shaped.

A decent man has no issue paying child support, he just doesn't like getting fucked over while he does. Nor does he like seeing his hard earned cash spent on her shoes when its supposed to be spent on his kids.

Heh upvoted for the title alone...lets not forget the single mums who kicked dad out halfway through the kids lives because she was unhaaaaaapy.

I think south park did it best when Stans mum kicked Randy out. Im paraphrasing here but when stan says 'well fine bring dad back and ill be happy' his mum says 'oh no stan ive still got to consider my happiness first'

Here's a topic that I haven't seen much here as of yet: I am nearing my mid-forties, what about ones that have grown or almost grown children? Any pointers on dealing with them? Just about every single female around my age has children.

This hits close to home, as I too was raised by a single mother who still doesn't have a job. (Technically my Grandparents raised me).

It sucks not having a proper father figure, luckily TRP helps soothe the pain.

There was an elephant group where the adult males were removed. The juveniles started acting up and viciously attacking other animals. When the adult males were reintroduced they put a stop to that shit. On mobile so I can't link it.

Edit: http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae/in-the-absence-of-fathers-a-story-of-elephants-and-men/

but most the time he was a horny guy begged not to use a condom and told she was on the pill when she wasn't.

This hits a little too close to home for me in a past life. Wrap it the fuck up, guys.

You want to hear a sad story? Well how about a guy who married a beautiful girl. Travelled around the world with her. Built three successful companies and then had two perfect little kids. Then after a twenty year relationship she decides to flirt online with Chad Thundercock and abandons her two little kids and husband to pursue her online affair. Moves in with Chad then tells her family that she left due to "physical and emotional abuse". Claims she is unable to see her kids due to her ex-husbands "abusive nature". Every word of it a lie, she is simply an evil slut who wants to avoid responsibility for her disgusting actions. Her kids ask to spend more time with her but she chooses instead to spend every spare minute with Chad. Then tells her kids she would spend more time with them but "daddy abuses mummy". She is right about daddy abusing her, but only after the event. Daddy calls her out for her evil and correctly labels her a vile degenerate whore.

How do I know this sad story is true? Coz I am the daddy who has taken care of his two little kids every night while she fucks Chad. Single mothers can most certainly be described as evil conniving degenerate whores. Does the law do anything about it? No. Do people assume that it must have been my fault? Yes. This world is fucked my friends and it is only getting worse. I am surprised that more men do not flee with their kids to Saudi Arabia and seek asylum from the western countries evil laws which support and encourage women to act like sluts and then still get the kids, the house and spousal support.

Single mothers aren't always the scum of the earth. I know a really cool chick thats loyal af raising her daughter alone, but she doesn't play that victim shit. She works a decent job making decent money and takes care of the kid without bragging about it.

My intelligent Sister who has often simplified womens psychology to me also had 2 kids from a man who clearly was going to walk out.

She told me the reason she kept the kids is because of her desire to nurture something and create a family.

She's not looking for child support but the reality of her still wanting to keep children that are obviously not going to be loved by a complete family is selfish and she acknowledges this fact.

Some women feel the need to secure a nest at all costs.

The government can fix this epidemic in one fell swoop..

Make it illegal to give birth to a child outside of wedlock. Watch as women now have to make a real conscious decision of who they sleep with.

Sleep with an idiot, low life scumbag but an alpha nonetheless, you are screwd for life.

TRP: the father I never had. Thank God for the Internet.

My mom left my dad cause he was cheating on her and beating her in front of me so i dont like the title.

Anyway I avoid single mothers myself. Every single mom I've met had serious mental problems.

Five letters.. RISUG.

Let's see to it that this effective and safe male contraceptive gets approved and to market ASAP.

Dear IllimitableMan,

Your writing is still shit.

Love,

A Fan

PS: Watching you hone your craft of words has been an interesting observance. One can easily click back to one of your earlier rants to see how it has matured. +1, dude.