I'm still amused at the unintended consequences of all of this. The Streisand Effect is real. TRP has largely been apolitical, but in one grandiose example of shooting themselves in the foot the left has damn near turned a 300,000 strong subreddit into a veritable Political Action Committee.

And not just ours, but several other subreddits who are aghast at the censorship that's happening. We're talking about 300,000 here, another 250,000 or so at /MensRights, a fuckton at /Mgtow, and the list goes on. Hell, even some subs that hate the strawman they believe we are have taken to our defense. Way to energize the base of your opposition!

This is why I don't think we'll see a blue wave in November. Every attempt at shutting down conservatives, or really just anyone the left disagrees with, is making people realize just how bug nuts insane the political left has become.

I don't think you should insult them for admitting they were wrong, always encourage people to admit mistakes and don't punish them when they do otherwise they get resentful. Good luck.

Dropped in to say that I subscribed just because I heard this sub-reddit was "quarantined" (see: censored -- I couldn't access this on mobile).

I never subscribed because, back when I looked through this subreddit, I agreed with maybe 10% of what is said in here and say maybe 25% of posts are hate speech or borderline and I don't want that negativity in my life. But people deserve to read and decide for themselves. TRP is also a gateway to various male right movements (MRA, Asian Masculinity, MGTOW, incels) where those who don't exactly agree with TRP can go.

Anyway, I'm sure one of you guys have said it better than me and I already know y'all have backup plans for when the other shoe drops. Just dropping in for support. Proud now to rep "Yeah, I read TRP", to anyone who dares to ask.

/u/Sp3z is possibly a bigger cuck than Trudeau which is quite an achievement

In the Reddit Admins minds, your takedown only reinforces their beliefs. Exposing their errors and backwards thinking will only make them more sure about their "correct thinking" because only a truly horrible person would question their beliefs.

The quarantine is ostensibly a result of moral judgement by the admins that this sub teaches evil. Their utter lack of commitment toward addressing the supposed moral iniquity, first posting a half assed rebuke in the form of an poorly vetted talking head, then removing it, deepens the sense that they aren't quite sure what part of the communities content they are meant to disagree with.

It is their duty, their absolute moral obligation to shine a public light on what they see wrong with our speech before they snuff it out.

Remember when Reddit's co-founder bragged about free speech? When asked what the Founding Fathers would have thought of reddit: "A bastion of free speech on the World Wide Web? I bet they would like it[...]" - Alexis Ohanian

...only to make a complete U-turn later on? "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen." - spez

I remember, and it's what brought me to this site in the first place.

I won't be surprised if they make another U-turn and argue "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a place where open and honest discussion can happen."

I messaged the admins about this the day it happened and got a 3 day suspension. I am now following up on why I was banned for 'harassment' when nothing I said met the Reddit TOS for harassment, unless 'messaging an admin something they don't like' is now harassment. No /u/bsutansalt there will not be a blue wave, it will be a fucking red tsunami.

plot twist Reddit is run by women

Long time RP lurker here.

This subreddit has helped me come to uncomfortable, but useful and transformative conclusions about my own life and society at large. It's helped me become a better version of myself and create positive momentum not only in my own life, but also in the lives of several people around me.

That being said, is there any way we can take some action against this quarantining? Whether that's signing an open letter or a forum where we can share positive transformations that young men have experienced as a result of this forbidden knowledge; I feel compelled to contribute what I can to combat this shortsighted, inane act of censorship.

There's been a lot of talk in this thread and others about the Streisand Effect and the effects censorship has on energizing a dormant base. I can unequivocally say that this has lit a fire for me. But how can we actually help?

The truth is that reddit staff didn't give this more than thirty seconds worth of thought. Some butthurt intern wanted to answer back, using root access instead of a regular comment or post, and googled the first thing xe could find that contradicted us.

Lo, and behold, it turned out that this was composed of the ideas of a creepy harrasser, a genocide advocate, a man hater, and a domestic abuse apologist. And that's just two people.

Anyone think that's a coincidence?

100% of our ideological opponents are morally bankrupt. All of them. The ones who appear clean just haven't been caught yet. Everything they accuse us of, they themselves are guilty of.

DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. This is what they do.

/u/spez doesn't care about any of that, of course. He's not truly ashamed because the possibility has never entered his tiny, self-absorbed mind that he might, just might be wrong. No, he's not ashamed, he's only embarrassed.

He just doesn't want to look bad.

That's why the link silently vanished, with no retraction or apology. He doesn't have the courage to take responsibility for his mistakes, or those of the team that reports to him. He is every inch the disgusting spineless manchild that his physical appearance would suggest. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

That is why there can never be a debate or open dialogue with this sort of leftist human headache. Not simply because they lack the imagination and mental discipline to imagine someone else's worldview, but because they are so lacking in courage that they bear to sit and listen to someone contradict them, even for long enough to await their turn to speak.

Being contradicted fills them with such pain that they cannot imagine the source of it to be anything but pure evil.

• This will never be resolved.
• No reddit staff will ever address this community directly in any medium that permits a response, unless that response can be shamelessly ignored.
• The ban, when it happens, will happen silently and without warning.

The good news is that we don't need them. We only ever used their resources out of convenience, not necessity. We have among us all the expertise and initiative required to build for ourselves whatever we need.

All you have to do is show willing.

Apparently I don't exist, no such thing as male abuse victims and I am one if the '0' subscribers.

Eat a hairball, reddit.

I guess y'all want me to keep sliding conservative? If this is the new "New Left" I'm out. Liberals were supposed to be about embracing freedom of choice and diversity, not mass shaming based on transparent bigotry.

If I call myself a liberal or Democrat these days will people think I support a totalitarian thought control culture and corporate state? I thought that was supposed to be a Republican ideal. Ehhh, it's all crap now, they don't support the people. They bicker in public, fake fights, and then rob us in secret.

Political parties won't save you.

Who here thinks the admin have the proper judgment to be able to tell them what they should and should not read?

More like, who thinks that ANYBODY should be able to tell them what they should and should not read? If you're into that sort of thing, just go start a review blog somewhere.

I can't say I agree with everything on this sub, but this Orwellian nonsense is probably going to red-pill more men than anything in your sidebar...

Funniest part of that: The woman that said she believed that the population should be artificially set at only 10% male or some shit. Can she not see that that would lead to the ultimate patriarchy? Almost every dude would be living like a fucking warlord. They would literally give zero fucks about the women. Every woman would be part of a harem and would do literally anything their new daddy wanted.

Second funniest part: The idea that a civilization composed of 90% women would actually be able to sustain itself. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good luck doing all those jobs that don't involve policing men's tone at work, indoctrinating children, or pushing paper around government bureaucracies. By day 3 the garbage would be overflowing onto the streets and shit water would be coming out of the pipes into their bath tubs.

Edit: Third funniest part: Leftists are now arguing under the banner of "it's a private company and it can do whatever it wants. You have no rights here." Gotta say I definitely did not see that about face coming.

The worst part is I always thought that MGTOW, MRA and TRP subreddits are eventually going to get purged, because of the eventual turn to family friendliness of companies that want to maximize their profit.

But all this time I thought TRP will be the last light to go, since it deals "only" with social skills and self-improvement.

I am still trying to wrap my head around why out of "openly political" MRA, "pointing out women are dangerous" MGTOW and "be the best you can, and become attractive to women as side effect" TRP, reddit decided to go for TRP's neck first.

Where does that leave us? Did they try to test the waters of the manospehere, by pick up seemingly least political sub, to see what the reaction would be? Or do they see us as the most dangerous one, because we point out uncomfortable truths about female psychology?

I always thought I would never involve myself with the political aspect of manospehere, sticking to self-improvement aspect of TRP, and self-preservation aspect of MGTOW. It always seemed to me that the "forces that be" only really had problem with the vocal political aspect of manosphere. Treating the self-improvement part of it with indifference, or at most as a butt of their jokes.

But right now, it is starting to dawn on me that what they have a problem with is the idea of masculinity itself. Or rather, that no matter how progressive women want to be, they still find masculinity attractive. The MRA and MGTOW being a manifestation of that masculinity.

Is it perhaps because they couldn't change women, they decided to change men?

As it seems, we may not have the luxury of choosing to sit this one out.

I'm glad you are our moderator, dude. Thank you for all your hard work.

In response to your question, I currently do not believe any of the Reddit admin are in any position to dictate to their users what the "truth" is, or how to be a "man". Both are subjective.

The reddit admin need to understand what it means to be impartial and be able and willing to see multiple angles of a discussion before attempting to push their personal ideologies on their users.

Edit: a word

I'd chop my dick off if the Admin actually left a decent apology.

Why dont we create our own website and transfer all our community and the great knowledge that has been dropped here over to the new site and we can do our own thing. That way we own our voice??

Stony Brook, NY? And you actually thought i was gonna read that shit? brah

I'll say it again, the Liberal/Progress Democrat agenda is about enforcing conformity with their ideals and vision of what society should be. They are couching it in other terms like equality and justice, but it's really just them fooling the masses and getting the masses to conform to their agenda by appealing to the greedy side of human nature (wealth envy and class warfare), and fooling people with emotional arguments not based on fact (modern feminism).

I'm starting to see signs people are waking up though, especially with just how outrageously and obviously false these Kavanaugh accusations have been. The masses are at least scratching their heads, seeing something's not right. Now might be just the time when they're open to other ideas if someone can present it in a way that doesn't come across as just another angry, male, racist woman hating guy.

Siwwy wabbit, you can't abuse men! Men are the abusers! /s

Hey guys, i just found out about the quarantine. And got VERY worried when i tried to see the subreddit on my mobile, to only find it unlisted.

So, I am a bit late to the game here. What is the plan? It seems to me, that we are rapidly losing the fight here. Mostly because we do not see free-thinking as somethign we should have to fight for. It is truly truly worrying times for men. When social spaces for us to interact and share ideas die out.

Personally, i am in a difficult time in my life. And the fact that censorship and the shutting down of ideas and anythign resembling masculinity online and in the media, only makes me more isolated in my social and personal life.

Anyway, what is the plan? What are peoples thoughts? 300k subscribers is a LOT. Are we going to just sit here and wait until the subreddit is banned? Roosh is leaving too. The manosphere seems to be dying. What is going on?

We need some leaders, badly. Ones that are not afriad to stand up and speak out and suffer the consequences against the tide.

I don't think the reddit admins have the ovaries to admit they are / were wrong for this..

I've been a victim of domestic violence. /u/spez doesn't believe in my right to be heard or exist

This may sound weird, but I actually like that little quarantined tag. It kind of makes the sub look badass.

Personally, I am not political. Oh I have my opinions, but they don't have anything to do with left or right, top or bottom. To me, all this arguing about parties and left and right is just political rhetoric to keep people fighting amongst themselves and have the stage set for them to do what they want, as usual.

There is a small group of people who actually make decisions about what path the world is taking. Whether inadvertently or in collusion, it always boils down to real power is always based in a small group. Does anyone here think that the people with real power give a shit about who we like and don't like? The left and the right?

The left and right are simply terms that are exploited to keep the flock arguing about nothing while the decision makers are left alone to decide for the rest of us. Look at the big picture guys. The big picture is what it has always been. If you don't look out for yourself, nobody will do it for you.

Only the weak must censor. Only the weak are afraid of ideas. Only the weak are afraid of the free exchange of information. Only the weak stifle dissent through authoritarian heavy handed tactics. Only the weak are afraid of strength.

If any of you motherfuckers vote for the "pussy hat"/SJW/Antifa representative candidate, expect much much more of the same. This is some Orwellian Bolshevik level bullshit going on.

Who here thinks the admin have the proper judgment to be able to tell them what they should and should not read?

I'm still shocked >unnamed sub< hasn't been banned. After Charlottesville there was an endless stream of calls for violence against "Nazis".

Many people, including myself, made calls for calm, that having an activist group present throwing items and injuring protesters was more likely the reason behind one individual feeling aggrieved than some ideology. And we were permanently banned from >unnamed sub< for being, according to the moderators, "Nazi sympathiser".

You can't make this up: arguing against incitement of violence resulted in bans from >unnamed sub<.

The administrators, of course, must know that >unnamed sub< is an active hate sub which condones incitement to violence. Yet there's been no quarantining of that sub. Even though that sub breaks a major rule of the site.

u/spez is a fucking homo, he gets butt fucked by Tyrone every night

I see this differently. I think there is a REDPILL admin Mole or two at heart that secretly decided to act as a double agent and place that particular tongue and cheek link for two-fold reasonings. This tells me the ban does not come from the lower admins but from those even higher up and the admins themselves more than likely men have read as much information and are advent readers of REDPILL. Thus secret followers of the ideaology. So reading between the lines, the link/line was purposely put there as tongue and cheek against reddits higher uppers by a redpill Mole only to force it back down quickly. Which is what they wanted anyway. Thanks Admin. This is "Q" level espionage. I like it. We have some insiders but I fear its not enough...

Some things are subjective. The existence of male victims of abuse is not subjective. Fuck you, Reddit admins.

I think that the removal of that stupid link wasn't the Reddit administration "recanting", but correcting an obvious error. That link to Stoney Brook made the quarantine of The Red Pill look very obviously personal.

If Reddit just did a general content review and made a list: "Here are 27 subreddits that violate our non-quarantined content policies and qualify for quarantine", then quarantined the list of subreddits, that would appear professional and impersonal.

But when somebody sticks a link to a liberal, feminized, healthy masculinity university program on the quarantine page for The Red Pill, that demonstrates that the quarantine wasn't some professional, impersonal enforcement of content policies. It was personal.

Whoever posted that link wasn't some office administrator who was enforcing content policies. It was somebody who intimately knew what The Red Pill was supposed to about and was posting an alternative source. Essentially saying, "Yup. I'm quarantining you assholes. And here's a link for how to be real men, instead of being losers like you."

With the Stoney Brook link on the quarantine notice, it was clear that the quarantine wasn't mere administrative content enforcement, but a very personal attack from someone who knew what The Red Pill was about and disagreed with the viewpoints.

I don't think the removal of the link is the administration recanting. They're just backpedaling from an emotional response by whatever administrator or intern pushed the quarantine button and typed the notice, to try to make the quarantine appear more official and impersonal, and less of a personal opinionated attack.

This is all just sjw admins throwing a hissy fit over Kavanaugh. I really hope there is a supreme court case that bans this kind of censorship by companies like reddit, Facebook, Google, etc. and the ruling is written by Kavanaugh.

Grotesque lack of critical thinking. Really.

I mean, hasn't reddit always kinda been a joke? this is just further confirmation.

I’ve been here for a long time. All the way back since 2013 or so (over the course of several different reddit accounts). There were a few years in between where I was unsure if the ideas here were right or even morally true. But this has basically solidified my stance. Every young man needs to learn the knowledge we have here. It is so undefinably valuable. Not only with girls, or careers but with life. Before TRP, masculinity was slowing fading away and being redefined by people with destructive motives and often those who weren’t even men at all. This is one of the last few places on the internet, and maybe in all of western society, that places truth and reason above emotion and political correctness. The things I’ve learned here have already benefited me and will continue to benefit me for the rest of my life. Lifting, learning how to lead, understanding the importance of having goals. Learning how to deal with women was only a small part of it to be honest. But the powers that be want us shut down because of “misogyny”? What bullshit. Ironically the men here are probably around women alot more then those who decided we were misogynists. Women and men are different. Is recognizing a scientific truth misogyny? Should we ignore it? Cover it up and act like the sexes are completely identical with no differences? Society has sunk so low when lies are now favorable to reality. I don’t hate women. I doubt many men here hate women. I’m sure there are some who do, but there are also plenty of women who hate men in feminist circles. I don’t see any cries of outrage to shut them down. And I’ll support their right to hate men if they choose to do so for nothing other than the fact that I value free speech above forced good-think. I have no interest in banning ideas of any kind. If what we are saying here is so dangerous that it must be locked away and kept out of sight, then there must be something truthful then. Because why ban ideas that hold no sway? At the very least I’m looking forward to this: being one of the last real men in a feminized society full of the ignorant and blind.

Is the quarantine gone? I can view this on my phone. Wasn't possible when quarantined

Everyday, Trump is a bit more re-elected.

Recant isn't the word I'd have used...

Damn, easy on the guy. He might get mad and press the button delete by a mistake lmao. And yes, I know we are ready for it but man, I love our reddit redpill community.

Meh. I can't be the victim of abuse. This whole pity party shit doesn't fit our MO. We aren't MRAs; we're fucking vikings. We're the assholes that niceguys who consider themselves "victims" like to complain women always pick over them.

At least we used to be, back when I used this sub frequently. I guess I shouldn't presume what it's become in the past year.

To think I almost attended Stony Brook.. Granted, engineering is not "men's studies", but still.

That said, I do not think anyone has the moral authority to declare their viewpoint correct without any supporting documentation from multiple, repeated experiments. And even then that doesn't give you the right to shut down opposition because your view may not hold forever as new evidence may come to light.

The line between people shitposting insensitive jokes and discussing sensitive topics is fine but both should be allowed in their respective spaces. Your speech is free, but if you shout n-bombs in a predominantly black neighborhood, expect consequences. Shout it in private or among friends? No one should care.