I actually don't care about much of the pickup, and women psychology posts in here,

BUT THIS IS STILL, BY FAR, THE MOST RATIONAL SUBREDDIT ON REDDIT AND I DON'T WANT IT BANNED!

I have belong to the Subreddit for two years and this "Quarantine" is just ridiculous!! I have GREATLY benefited from the material from this subreddit and I am going to be look into how I can expose the ridiculous origins of this quarantine.

Happening today:
"The Good Censor"
Google bans free speech because Trump won.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-leaked-google-briefing-admits-abandonment-of-free-speech-for-safety-and-civility/

This is why it's all political. In an effort to demonize an anti-establishment president, Google (and probably all main stream social media), want to curb "free speech" for safety and civility. Which we all know is a crock of shit when politicians and media incite violence with their own rhetoric.

I won't go on about this, but if google censoring is true, as the leak reveals, it's the excuse social media is using to justify banning/quarantining/censoring any voice identified as wrong think.

If I was an Orwellian overlord, I'd censor all your asses so I would remain in power. Also, if social media was regulated like the financial industry, they would be under massive regulations to ensure each country had their own flavor of regulations. This would have a devastating impact on profitability (compared to now). What's their solution? Censor everything.

You know the saying "Fall Seven Times, Stand Eight". I really appreciate that you wrote this, let's not give up on this sub!!!

Reddit is shit-testing TRP and the response hasn't been textbook, at least not in a good way.

I didnt understand why I couldnt access this page on my mobile until reading this post. Its quite odd that this happened and a friend of mine is going thru the exact same episode with his job. Where he made a comment to a female coworker, she complained and he got a 2 week suspension and hes stressing cuz he may loose his job. All the while the "boss" never asked my friend for his side of the story, and just suspended him and is causing him grief.

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Im not understanding or liking this "PC", libtard agenda that is happening within our society. Why is everyone so damn SENSITIVE!? Kids need discipline, the fact that children these days and millenials never got spanked or yelled at for doing something wrong or some other form of discipline has created this age where everyone feels entitled just because they are alive. Get off your high horse come back to reality and realize that life is tuff, its honest, its brutal, its hard and it never quits.

Being overally sensitive and not disciplined is ruining society and people are becoming well useless really. Being a single strait white male these days is the hardest thing, everyone shits on you just for that reason.

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I wanna go build a log cabin in the woods and throw away my mobile device, than I dont have to pay attention to these idiots

I personally feel this sub should be kept private, why do we want others to know this knowledge? And quite clearly these are blue pill cucks who do not even know the definitions of misogyny and rape, they just follow suit when women push them to. Who gives a shit? Let's focus on a small community with secret knowledge. The less competition the better.

Very well-written response that touches on every issue with this quarantine. Thank you.

There's something truly pathetic about a social order that depends upon absolute monopoly control over public opinion formation merely to survive.

I see so many unhappy men around. Not just here; in all walks of life. And by and large it's women creating their unhappiness. Women see it as a war they've been losing, and they're picking battles everywhere they can. It's a popular cause and they've rallied many behind it.

The trouble with this post is it's designed to appeal to reason. Reason says that men and women should not be at war; I learned that on the playground in third grade. But reason isn't being heard, in this place, in this century; popularity is what wins.

I think this sub should not try to win a popularity contest. If the idea that men should govern their own lives by those principles that matter to them is highly offensive - and it is a highly offensive idea, make no mistake - then we should embrace our highly offensive lives, and live those lives with integrity.

No matter whom we offend.

I know this is late, and I'm not sure if I should add this to the pile of modmail that is already present because of quarantine. But I also want to note that the sidebar, probably the most important asset of this sub, is GONE when viewing the sub as a logged-out user on the new reddit's desktop site. This is not the case for those subscribed to r trp, which may be why I haven't seen discussion about it. I don't know what it looks like for those unsubscribed who have reddit accounts.

It goes without saying what this means. But it's not just those new users and lurkers who are curious about us after the red pill is somehow come into their life... it's those who are now checking us out BECAUSE of the quarantine.

I hope the mods know about this already.

Edit: Comments are also invisible viewing the same way.

Tragic and all of a sudden, where do we go from here bothers? Damn it

I think this practice of banning The Red Pill selectively is unconstitutional and further in violation of the Unruh Act which prevents from discriminating on the basis of sex, gender and gender based points of view. This is a lawsuit against Reddit and those who participated in the ban waiting to happen. I have lawyers looking into this already as would happily serve as a plaintiff in this case.

It's sad that this sub was "quarantined" (or rather, had a thinly veiled attack against it) in the first place, but this appeal is beautifully worded and seems effective enough to either reverse the quarantine or prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Reddit censors and removes dissenting opinions against their own liberal agenda if they choose not to appeal.

I hope that TheRedPill can continue to grow and spread valuable information to men who need it now more than ever, but I am also prepared to move to TRP.red if the admins decide to silence us again for simply disagreeing with them.

Overall, I think we all need to come together as a community to support its growth no matter the response given to the appeal.

1. I am an abuse victim and felt attacked and invalidated by the admin's actions

2. TRP and related subs helped me turn my life around and understand some of the abuse and hostility I have suffered

3. I am a free speech advocate and believe thought control and censorship are the tools of totalitarians

4. I generally follow egalitarian principles and give just as much respect to my female colleagues and friends as males

5. I believe people can learn from each other and work out their differences, but only when there is a safe place for honest communication

6. The mod team is reasonable and I can see why I got a few warnings for breaking the subreddit's rules

7. I have been studying and discussing gender issues for over two decades and do not need help filtering out wrongthink

I'm more of a MGTOW kinda guy but I think this whole quarantine is complete bullshit.

Rest assured that there's people from all of the 'manosphere' subs that have your guys back. MGTOW, MGTOW2.0, MRA, PUA, MSN, PPD and many more. I thought MGTOW would be targeted wayyyy before you guys tbh. I come here on occasion and I don't think I've ever seen any rules broken. This place is like church when compared to the woman hating, anger, mod abuse and incels we have invading the main MGTOW sub.

We may have our slight differences but at the end of the day we're trying to do a similar thing so we stand with you. It would be a real shame to see this quarantine stay. Really speaks volumes about Reddit as a whole with its frontier justice, mob mentality and bias. It's wrong for Reddit to just decide what ideas and information is okay and what isn't.

Best of luck to you.

EDIT: Shows how good the filtering is on this sub that my post got removed for linking to an unapproved sub. You guys run a tight ship. The admins shouldn't have anything to complain about.

Michael Kimmel currently under investigation for sexual harassment. Obviously there's due process and burden of proof to be considered, but if he's convicted..

Jesus christ Reddit, what a train wreck that would be. Endorsing a rapist as an example of positive masculinity to a sub that you claim is full of misogynists, it would be funny if it wasn't so fucked up.

Misandry is fine on reddit, anything but 24/7 fawning over women is considered misogyny and will get you banned. I don't think you're going to have much luck appealing to the admins rationality, they are agenda driven. SJW agenda that is.

It bears pointing out that:

• At no point in this entire process did Reddit administrators reach out the mod team, either in public or in private, and attempt to open a dialogue.

• Reddit has never publicly made clear what precise decision making process goes into bans or quarantines, who makes such decisions, or whether there is a formal process at all.

• Reddit as an entity has never troubled to explicitly define many of the terms such as "misogyny" or "racism" which it bans entire communities for. Without such a formal definition, communities cannot anticipate what standards they will be held to.

• This lack of transparency leads to the strong appearance that Reddit's gradual process of creeping censorship is not the result of any sort of articulate plan or formal, objective standards, but instead the result of a series of subjective decisions by Reddit staff, made based upon their own personal values and opinions.

• "Don't do anything that upsets /u/spez" is not a set of guidelines... it is the lack thereof.

Obviously, the goal of this "appeal" is not actually getting Reddit to withdraw the quarantine. The appeal begins with a threat - "We're making this process public!", casts shade - "Maybe you want to deliberately keep people in the dark with unclear policies!", stamps its feet with self importance - "This is a bad way to run things and without users you'll fail!", and instead of focusing on the non-offensive nature of content in The Red Pill just lists a bunch of other subreddits with bad content and accuses the Reddit administration of bias and favoritism. Then, this "appeal" throws up its hands declaring that it expects the whole process to be a kangaroo court anyway.

The real hope of this "appeal" is to try to draw attention to the fact that the Reddit administration is biased, partisan, emotional, reactionary, arbitrary, etc., and to discredit their policies and appeal process.

I don't think that's going to get anybody anywhere, because hardly anybody on the internet outside of The Red Pill's readership is actually following this story with interest and casting judgments on Reddit over the outcome. Nobody cares if Reddit is a kangaroo court that arbitrarily enforces vague policies except the people who are already reading The Red Pill, and maybe the people who are against The Red Pill and happy to see it go.

LOL! You thought that an appeal would get considered!

I have, after only two bans from other subs, maybe 3, realized that when one is banned, especially for tenuous reasons, one may as well go masturbate into a potted plant. It will get better results.

Not for nothing, but if this kind of thing continues at the steady pace it's been happening, expect a complete information lockout 3 to 6 months (probably won't be earlier, as they won't want to allow for a significant regrouping period) before Election Night 2020. All these bans, de-platforms, service denials, etc. across the entire "Not-Left-Country" landscape are related, and are a long game being played by the people who got BTFO in 2016 and haven't forgotten it. Don't fool yourselves into thinking this move isn't a smaller part of that whole. TRP may seem further removed from political subs like T_D, but in the minds of the people waving these banhammers and attenuation tactics, It's not.

The appeal is too long and that takes away the focal point.

The claim of misogyny is the one that baffles me the most. Just go on askTRP and see what happens to men who try to victim puke about their situation and blame women for their troubles. They're always told that THEY are the problem and that THEY need to step up their game.

Maybe it's concepts like AWALT that rub them off the wrong way but AWALT isn't a commentary on women, it's a defense mechanism for vulnerable men who just started their journey and need black and white rules to follow. No one would claim that a woman who just got raped and refuses to be alone with a man is a man hater. So why are they saying that men who just got divorce-raped, got cheated on, maybe multiple times by multiple women or maybe even got literally abused are called misogynists when they follow AWALT??? Sure, it doesn't shine a good light on women as a group but they need to face the reality that women are human: some of them are pieces of shit, some of them will lie, cheat and rob you. Some will show a complete lack of decency. In other words, AWALT means destroying the pedestal SO many men put women on and finally treating them like equals on a moral level. This isn't misogyny, it's common fucking sense.

On a personal note, when I found out the manosphere, I started hating women a little bit. I saw them as evil and deliberately bad. When I found the Red Pill, my burgeoning hatred died off in a matter of days when I understood that women weren't bad, they were just different. I understood that I had been playing a game years while following the wrong rules. I became at peace with women and my relationship improved exponentially, so did their relationship with me. I stopped being pissed off like a bitch a my girlfriend because she didn't folllow the covert contracts I made up in my head. I stopped resenting the fact that she didn't fuck me the way I wanted when I understood that choreplay doesn't work and that the only way is to be attractive and not be unattractive. This is all thanks to The Red Pill.

This witch hunt against TRP is purely ideological and if Reddit wants more unhinged beta males like Eliott Rogers, then go ahead, ban us. The blood will be on YOUR hands.

We aren’t your enemy.

That's the strangest thing about this whole saga. This is one of the tightest run ships on the internet. The site wide rules are ruthlessly enforced. Racism, advocating violence against women (and men) and blatant politicking is immediately crushed. Sure, we say things that are uncomfortable, but brigading is explicitly disallowed by the mods and we are entirely tolerant of a huge swath of reddit that does not agree with us. This place is an example of how an orderly, safe sub should be run.

And that gets put in a box...

Reddit has become more cucked each passing year

Why would you write that massive paragraph when it can just be boiled down to:

"You’ve presented us with no evidence for your accusation, simply an assertion of misogyny. And yet your prescription is to change and modify this undocumented problem, What is the problem?"

Why write anything beyond that?

Hell I think the official TRP response should just be:

"k"

Why do we even want to get unquarantined?

Instead of a trickle of new members, it'll come in waves which make things easier as there'll be value for money in posting information.

oh... so they are trying to IPO. NOW I understand why they are getting rid of us. I expect the subreddit counts to go from a few 1million to a few thousand.

I love you mods. However as we all know the admins most likely aware of the aforementioned hypocrisy. They most likely are going to enable the inheritantly marxist SJW cause. In fact, they may double down and ban us. If this is the last comment I make on this sub, may it be this, long live free speech and God Bless America.

CEO is conducting an AMA currently

Out of curiosity, have any outside legal avenues been discussed? I am continually amazed at the number of conservatives such as Laura Loomis, Milo, and the numerous Red Pill authors who have had their livelihoods impacted by Twitter bans and other social media censorship who have not filed lawsuits. There is a huge following of “everymen” like myself who have been silenced on social media who would gladly sign on to a class action lawsuit against Twitter and Facebook. And with this nonsense I’d happily sign in blood on any lawsuit against Reddit.

Is that an option?

Glad I missed that front page shit porn. Don't be surprised if your response to this idiocy is severely lacking. Deplatforming people and groups for wrong think is the new safe space moderation. There's a reason why 4chan /pol/ is one of they last places online that allows free speech despite it's content. Reddit is just part of the technocracy that polices non-existent aggressions that go against their own dogma. If you're in the supposed aggression group, you will not receive a trial, you will be pronounced guilty with extreme prejudice (no pun intended). These sites are nothing more than an approved exchange of ideas.

You're attempting to apply logic and reason to a group of people who have none.

Here's the issue in a nutshell. The left believes that men are all powerful, and that they use that power to subjugate women. TRP sees the reality that women have most of the power in the sexual marketplace and do what they can to attempt to increase male power in the sexual marketplace so as to adjust the imbalance. But the left finds any increase in male power to be objectionable: they want it reduced, preferably to zero, not increased.

They don't want equality, any more than they are now objecting about the reality in South Africa, where whites are being murdered and financially castrated. They pushed to eliminate apartheid on the basis of its lack of equality, but the reality is they never cared about equality. They want whites and males to lose their power -- all of it, so they have totally ignored the current total lack of equality in South Africa where it was cause #1 in the 1980s and 1990s. TRP is fundamentally at odds with that, and so they see TRP as mysogynist, because of their belief that anyone who doesn't believe in the annihilation of all male power everywhere must be a misogynist.

You are arguing their stated point, which they don't care about at all. What they care about is the elimination of male power and anything that doesn't further than cause is horrible. Instead, you are arguing that you don't hate or degrade women, but that isn't enough for the left, and so you have failed to understand their definition of misogyny, and therefore you are arguing apples while they are arguing oranges, and never shall the trains meet.

So your appeals will fall on deaf ears. Either you build a site of your own or die. Sure go ahead and appeal, but as long as the issues here are fundamentally at odds, I see very little chance of success. In the meantime, we all need to make a point to vote in the elections.

This is written very well and I want to see the response given by Reddit.

Strategically, the appeals only purpose IMHO should be to buy time.

Imagine TRP as a man and Reddit as the woman. TRP's "your turn" with Reddit is close to over. Like a woman, Reddit wants TRP gone and only wants to give the perception of some kind of due process so they don't have to deal with how any of it feels.

You can't save a relationship with a woman once it starts to fracture. Logic doesn't work. Appeals don't work. Reason doesn't work. She wants out, for whatever reason. If she can't find a good one, she'll just make one up.

My suggestion would be to formulate a timeline on a calendar and start to clock it. Four weeks and out. Have committed current members each get a list of people who did subscribe and contact each personally by PM. Maybe 10 names for each person. Get them to reach out and get people to TRP.Red. Structure deleting all content here, all posts, all sidebar progressively and porting everything over to the new site.

When the false appearance of due process is over, Reddit will drop the hammer.

Since we are encroaching on the holiday season, and people are busy, the powers that be might wait until the New Year to roll this subreddit out. Or they might want to get it done before the Thanksgiving rush. IMHO, this place should be emptied out by Halloween.

The only power you really have is to walk away.

Stoicism means outcome independence.

Nothing endures, it's only "Your Turn"

"A man can be himself only so long as he is alone; and if he does not love solitude, he will not love freedom; for it is only when he is alone that he is really free."

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

• Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)

Good luck to everyone.

the hypocrites can see that they are loosing ground for just being plain wrong with everything, thus they go stalinism in order to keep their power. these "moral" people are not moral, they are deeply unethical; they think reason, logic, an argument are only used to get power. they do not care about human civilization and humanist values and achievements.

the regressive left has lost all moral position, the people of the regressive left have to be redpilled or politically defeated, for they are totalitarian people.

a humanist would be happy to find a "wrong" position and show that it is wrong with facts and logic. a humanist would not "quarantine" text and try to make it harder for counter-arguments to reach an audience. shamelessly immoral people.

You got me with the /r/fragilewhiteredditor bit.

What would happen if the admin posted a message at the top of TWOX claiming that women’s abuse isn’t nearly as high as reported and that men’s abuse was much worse? Well, I’m pretty sure you’d call that misogyny.

So what’s it called when you do it to men? (It’s called misandry.)

Another great point. Your arguments were well laid out, but the passive aggressive jabs

Looks like you guys just love shit, piss, and rape.

aren't going to persuade anyone.

I am willing to propose a compromise.

They hold all the cards. And this community actually prefers to stay out of the limelight. If T_D is shut down, they will have hell to pay. RP, not so much.

I say let them burn it down. We know it is an injustice. It won't go unnoticed by the large number of redditors who have been keeping tally of Reddit admin bullshit and censorship across the internet.

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I understand that "fuck dem lol" autistic approach is a tad bit childish, but why not just pack our things and go to trp.red? Those who want to learn will find a way, regardless if TRP is a subreddit or another website.

I think one of the major things that led to the quarantine is people trying to politicize the red pill, while in reality, red pill has nothing to do with politics. Red pill existed before politics, it existed while man was still in caves. Red pill theory by itself is a biology lesson but pairing it with shitty commentary from T_D, it takes on a whole new meaning. Ban politics and keep this sub pure.

You guys should mention the fact with examples of how /r/twoxchromosomes is way way more toxic.

Anything for you Serena......

Well said. Very reasonable with sufficient evidence of the “picking sides”.

Can’t wait to hear the response...I am not hopeful of change though.

Hear hear.

If the admins read this post, good. I was the biggest beta cuck loser you can imagine. Without getting into it, TRP didn't make me hate women. It helped me understand what happened (virtue signalling, trying to negotiate attraction, etc) and suddenly I stopped being angry at women, or the woman in this case, and move on from it. TRP isn't misogynist. It's just reality.

Did you actually tell the admins they are racist and sexist? LOL good luck with that. I expect that part to backfire.

First off, Its no secret that men come here angry and in search of answers. Red pill doesn't turn these men away but instead gives these men the actual tools so they don't end up BITTER but infact get BETTER as men. Its understandable to see angry comments from the new commenters, but rather than letting these men's feelings fester. The Red pill helps these men improve their lives and improve their interactions with the men and women around them.

thank you.

I really disagree with your tone and overall argumentation style here. This isn't a debate, this is an appeal. Please keep that in mind. This doesn't represent the issue well, and has literally zero possibility of accomplishing anything useful. Your writing is full of ad hominems and whataboutism, when it should be about TRP, and the compromises we are willing to make.

I really hope that you didn't send this yet, because this is ridiculous. I completely misses the point of appeal, and leaves nobody unaware of the fact that you don't understand the issue here. Just accusing the Reddit admins of beign injust isn't going to help. Doing so is important, but if you want results you still have to "prove" that no misogyny is allowed in this subreddit.

Our moderation team has gone to great length to ensure our members follow reddit’s terms of service. We see no terms in the content policy that we have violated. And yet you allege we have broken this unwritten policy. How is it that you expect moderators and community to follow such rules is beyond me. Perhaps it is because you prefer to keep all communities in the dark about the unwritten rules.

This is the good part.

To me, this seems like an immeasurably bad way to run a social media site which depends on its users for long-term survival. Perhaps it’s not in your interest to ensure Reddit stays around. Maybe you’re using censorship and quarantines as a means to redirect discussion into the direction you prefer. Maybe you’re trying to sway an election? I don’t know, that’s above my pay grade.

Not useful. Not constructive. Just a useless and largely irrelevant insult.

Hatred (by your definition) is okay as long as the target is against white people.

Wording this in a bit more polite tone might actually make it a good point. Now it's just an angry man shouting about the world not beign fair.

What about towards men? Here are some lovely sentiments floating around reddit that the reddit admin tacitly endorses by not censoring or quarantining:

Whataboutism? Not useful. Not really even constructive. As sad it is, hatred against men isn't shoking or highly offensive, and therefore not subject to quarantine. Moreover, the referenced posts are not very popular, and usually the problematic content wan't even in the post, but in comments.

To make matters worse, when you quarantined us, you put up a message directing our users to Stony Brook University Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities whose executive director is Michael Kimmel. The same Michael Kimmel who denies male abuse victims. I see since then you’ve had the presence of mind to remove it- but without so much as an apology to our community of men who had to witness this. I would absolutely hate to know that the well being of abuse victims on / r / theredpill have been affected, or worse- hurt, by this event.

A good point. However, whining about male abuse victims isn't really that relevant. I know that it is a real issue. I know that somebody might have been hurt. But still, maybe this could be worded to sound like a legitimate worry, and not just pretentious victimization.

We know the quarantine process isn’t simply about keeping the front page clear of controversial topics. There’s literal shit porn, women getting pissed on, and detailed rape fantasies which have gotten the pass from your administration. Looks like you guys just love shit, piss, and rape.

Once again, ad hominem isn't really the way to convince somebody they are wrong. Those subreddits are marked as NSFW and aren't even nearly as popular as TRP. They are not beign linked. They do not have a political side. They do not discuss ideas. They aren't even a bit shocking, since everybody knows what to expect when entering such a subreddit. And I think they do not negatively affect the ad revenue of Reddit. Or even the public image of it.

If you want to present an example case of hypocrisy, I suggest that you compare TRP to T_D, since T_D has not been banned or quarantined, even when they break multiple rules of Reddit. But then again, they generate money. We don't.

But I’m willing to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Let’s say all of my well documented and evidenced accusations are simply wrong. Let’s say you really are just trying to make reddit a nice beige happy-land for new users and advertisers, and your goal was not to tacitly endorse all the hatred on the internet that you have chosen not to censor.

Please. Do not go and insult them when you are trying to appeal to them.

We would be happy to comply with reasonable requests that help you with your advertisers and future IPO. We aren’t your enemy. The way you’ve gone about this was a big mistake and I think we can both agree on that. Let’s work together to move past this event and get the admin and users back on the same side for the benefit of reddit.

Now, this is what you needed to say.

It's funny how you mention misandry because it's not like anyone even knows what that means especially feminist subreddits who post about misogyny all day.

MGTOW suffers from analogous BS charges because of all the TFL-ers and INCELs in it pretending to be MGTOW (and frankly acting like children).

I don't get what the big deal is: any man deterred by some slack-jaw site admins saying "this sub is eeeeevil" isn't ready to swallow the red pill anyway. It's pretty bitchy to whine about it, much more effective if it just had been ignored and seen as an example of an ineffective hindrance to men. The only differences that I see are:

1. Little exclamation mark upper left. It's adorable.
2. "Quarantine" notice where the number of subscribers use to be. I think I read somewhere that mods can still see the number of subscribers, but ordinary users can't. Some people care about that sort of stuff, so the mods might consider updating the top link/text in the sidebar with the subscriber number. Or not. Shrug.

Operationally, it's not all that different than something being marked NSFW.

It's not about credibility or cash. It's a last desperate system-wide attempt to control the narrative at all costs. Fuck their IPO, their advertisers, and their hypocritical cuck bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

This is very well written, thank you u/redpillschool for mounting such a vigorous defense of this subreddit. You do us and the movement proud.

You know what "implicit bias" is? It's when you don't know you're being biased.

Given we cannot prove "implicit bias" then you must be guilty of it!

Fix your "implicit bias" which you cannot, by definition, know about!

Whatever, it's not like we haven't seen this coming. All these chicks care about is some rich guy molesting another chick 20 years ago. Other women come and say "Yeah that happened to me too!! Men are pigs." and try to all feel the same about the problem. Not even knowing what happened before. We're both different females won't understand our viewpoints the same way a lot of us still don't understand theirs.

The fact of the matter is that females spend 70-80% of all the money in the world and the world runs on greed. Females hold all the controls. Just start a website far away from Reddit, lead a small group to it and rebuild. Ignore the weakling Males that scream " misogyny".

Fact of the matter is: Women like successful men. They always admit that, they want someone with a good job, a nice house, social skills, bed skills, social group and whatever the fuck else some girlfriend has found in a man. This takes time. Work on yourself and ignore the rest. It's basically a Reddit shittest. No little forum beta's discussing and self-help isn't allowed, how dare you say that about our little angels. Problem is: Reddit is the owner of the platform we post at. It's like being hated by your boss. It's like fucking a prostitute with HIV raw. It might work for a while but you'll die in the end, there is nothing to gain.

Ignore move on. They don't understand society will self-destruct if we continue the hyper feminized way living. Either when a big war comes or all the weakling males simply won't be attractive to females anymore and the birthrates plummet (peculiar that Japan, Germany and other first world countries experience this right? Fuck it, let's import loads of immigrant men!).

Red pill is purely selfish at it's core. You work on "yourself" to better "yourself" out of it comes money "you" spend. A body for you to enjoy the benefits of. We'll continue to grow in silence, just stay on your mission, enjoy yourself and also enjoy a females company if she offers you the ability to experience it. Your close friends will detest you if you try to help them. They'll poke fun at you for trying to get better at something they also do not understand (yet). Just stay on your mission do not discuss the red pill make your accomplishments seem effortless.

All of this political bullshit is unwinnable. Arguing like girls about semantics. I'm white and people hate me on a daily basis in this political climate, I don't give a fuck. My best friend was Black growing up, I've been basically adopted by a Turkish family while being a kid, I practically lived in their home. Am I going to say that when I get accused? I laugh and roll my eyes and just continue with whatever I'm doing. Frame is everything. Muslima girls like me, they'll chat me up, they'll try to reason why they like me. Try to guess which country I'm from, ask if I had other Muslima girls. Don't play their game be smart. Is there a sub about hating white people? I don't give a fuck. These people are weak anyway. I'm working on my own mission. Crabs will get you down. Growing too much will make something implode. And staying on this cancer infested website will make this self help forum die a slow and painful death.

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tldr;

Women and men are different, conflict of interest.Money talks, females spend the bulk of it.

Women like successful men they'll admit it. However they don't want to know about the struggle. It has to be effortless. Otherwise you are a faker to them. Lesser men will hate you, they don't understand the struggle. They're too tired to self help or self improve. They see bad boys grab their Women all day long over and over. Discussing and debating with these people won't help. It's negotiating a relationship on a free platform. Ignore the shittest.Redpill is selfish, helping other people will attract reckless people, hate and ridicule from all parties.And last but not least, fuck politics, we're the 20% we won't ever win in numbers and competing in a game that's rigged against you is dumb. Hate will always exist, just hold frame, ignore, laugh it away and continue your mission.

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Let me just say, I love women.

I've been around since the sub was 50k as a lurking reader for years consuming it daily at first and tapering off over time. If there is a ban coming, I just want to thank all the commenters who have posted their testimonies/stories over the years in response to posts. Testimony is really powerful and I've saved many of them.

After reading the side bar and the rare major postings, that was really the main reason to return to the forum and read; the experiences that leaked out here and there from people in the comments. I know that the internet has LARPers, but I know they can't all be false and they match and give light to my own relationships, my parents, and watching my friends relationships and their parents. It all adds new nuances to seeing what is really going on underneath in situations and I've been able to help myself and some friends avoid folly despite not really being able to give them the full pill.

This community has been a great resource in moving my worldview to a better place despite the bitter pill at first. My lifestyle has been much healthier because of it. If the community continues here or trp.red finds its footing with a better format; please keep posting your stories.

As usual the truth needs a warning label.

RPS used logic!

It wasn't very effective!

Is there another site this will migrate to in case it gets deleted?

Geez. Hate to put on a tinfoil hat as it clashes with my neckbeard but this is starting to make that Qanon stuff look legit. There's certainly a lot of censorship going on nowadays by these tech companies.

they are not going to read all that, just be concise and to the point.

they want us to beg, plain and simple

This is pointless. They will never un-quarantine this sub.

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You still don't know how leftist people do things? The Red Pill is a great danger to the enslavement of men, so they will try their best to get rid of it.

Eloquently said. And yet somehow the reddit admins will lose this battle either way. They either fashion together a straw man argument and get publicly exposed or relent with their tails between their legs and admit defeat.

Is it possible for a quarantine to be overturned? I have no idea how this works

Like a fucking boss. Stand firm for the good that is done here. Don't back down against the morons that run Reddit.

I think its time for some tech savy people to get together on a MGTOW/Red Pill, Pro Man forum, on a dedicated website, and let reddit pound sand like Myspace did.

Good job calling out the hypocrisy.

Something tells me we're not dealing with due process, but rather appealing to an emotional ratioalization which someone said, "I'll be the one to take them down" for some internet points.

I'm sure this was very cathartic to write out, and I sympathize with your anger. But insulting someone is not the best way to get them to listen to you. You're lobbing sarcastic insults at the people you need to convince, that is not how you win an argument.

Pointing out other subs that also ought to be quarantined under the new policy is also not helping. It's like trying to talk your way out of a speeding ticket by saying, "Look at all the other people who are speeding!" It never works.

This is not a kangaroo court. It's not any type of court at all. This is a website that is not collectively owned by the users. It's as though we are all guests at someone else's house. If someone starts saying things that the vast majority of the guests consider to be offensive, the host is going to have them take it outside (or in this case the basement). The fact that the person saying it doesn't consider it offensive doesn't make a difference if everyone else does.

I'm not a regular reader of this sub, I've just been watching the quarantining of various subs with interest. So, I took a quick look at the top posts of all time, just like a new user would do. Right up there in the top ten is the Red Pill Cheat Sheet. Here are just a few of the things it contains that the vast majority of people would consider to be misogynistic.

Dangerous Vibe. A masculine factor. You are unpredictable, mysterious, you take calculated risks. You are bold. You live life on the edge. You pin her down, you wrestle and play fight with your girl. You choke her. You threaten her.

Make the girls feel emotional. Not make them feel good, make them feel emotional. That means happy, sad, sexy, plain, excited, disheartened, calm, anxious - anything but letting them not be emotional.

They lie about themselves and assume you are doing the same. They cannot act/feel on the basis of anything verbally communicated. If she steps out of line say "don't do that". But don't sit down and communicate to her - it will weaken your position and strengthen hers. She will act on absolutely nothing that has been discussed even when she swears on her grandmother she won't (or will) do whatever the problem is. The only exception is putting her in her place when she does something not to your satisfaction.

As long as stuff like that is front and center you're going to have a very tough time convincing anyone.

I'm not holding my breath. When confronted a beta cuck's favorite weapon is censorship. They get off on silencing those they disagree with while unironicaly calling them fascists or in this case misogynists.

Pointing out shit from r/GenderCritical would make a better point. It's a pure hate sub and was even on the banout list.

If this subreddit gets shutdown, do we have an alternative location to head to?

This was well written, as many others have mentioned, thank you.

If this subs gets removed which I hope it does not. Is there an archive where we can view the sub and it's posts?

Well presented, with a minor exception.

You may call it tone policing, but since you have clearly taken pains to establish a tone...the stuff about shit and piss and porn was unnecessary and inflammatory.

Regardless, I predict the admins give either no response or an arrogant bite such as, "The quarantine stands per our previous communication."