Tuesday night
Tuesday this week was unique, I'd finished a huge successful project at work, so I felt good. I caught up with a single mate of mine for a beer and burger after work, and decided to go down to one of the backpacker (Hostel) bars for a few drinks. We get down there, it's trivia night and a live band setting up. I've fucked 9's before in my prime... but tonight my self confidence was low... not an attribute that gets you 9's. And I'm a 7 really... but I can bullshit my way to 8/9 territory when I'm sharp minded and wearing the right clothes with a good haircut.... anywaay
We follow the trivia night without playing just talking about women, life, cars, the next holiday trip...
It'd been a few weeks of intense weights training+healthy diet for me, so my sex drive was through the roof once again, and some of the girls were looking fantastic in their short shorts, long legs, perky tits, fun loving mood.
I'd been so busy with work lately I realised I had no game, and my buddy was more useless than me with the chat. But these two foreign girls had been sitting near and eye contact looking us up and down for a while. I said to my mate I'd get some convo started with them, but couldn't get the balls to do it.
A dude by himself walks over with his drink, strikes up convo, and seems to hit it off with them... They eventually walk off outside...all three of them. I say to my buddy "They were really eyeing us up too... this is what happens when you have no game". It really pissed me off that I didn't even try for fear of rejection... it was a fight or flight moment... I didn't want to go home having not even tried to get laid with arguably the easiest type of girl to get laid with that there is... the backpacker on her overseas experience.
I see on the dance floor the sexiest girl in the room (Lets call her Lisa), sexy hip dancing with a guy the same height as her with a scruffy beard in a greater circle of people, clearly quite young, possibly a boyfriend, possibly met at the hostel. My buddy and I transfixed on her dance moves, "I say I love girls that can move like that".
So we get another drink, low on morale wondering if I shouldn't just go home and get some sleep...cut my losses...
I see another pair of girls, one of them is a 7 the other a 5. The live band is blasting acoustic medleys of MGMT, The Kooks, and the arctic monkeys at this point... we get talking, they're scottish, anyway these girls know the sexy girl and scruffy dude on the dance floor, so we get naturally intro'd into the 'dance circle'.
I strike up convo with the hot girl, not because I thought I could get with her, but because I wanted to game the scottish 7/10 by at least appearing like I have the confidence to talk to a 9.
She's really genuinely friendly, and "I say I love your dance moves!"
She says, "Thanks I teach dance back home".
I know salsa/bachata, so I kind of riff on some of the basic dominant/masculine moves spinning her around, pulling her in closely, but riffing on it to be more club type sexy dance moves... anyway as I do this I note that I'd totally just taken her from scruffy beard dude who'd been dancing around the idea of doing any kind of sexy move with her before... like a good friendly friendzone fulla.
So he chimes in, mid dance to point out that Lisas friend Erin(27) was hooking up with his friend who was 18. And so our dance is interrupted to all cheer on the sexy hookup going on the dance floor.
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Scruffy beard is now really trying to turn this thing around at this point, he pulls Lisa over to whisper something to her, they laugh.
She soon gathers that we're older and not backpackers, and asks "Do you come down here regularly to pick up backpackers?"
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"I say, this is my first time here, but thats a good idea... I think I will do regularly in the future.
I go to the side of the bar to get some water, She then comes back over to me, she's clearly in to me at this point, so I pull her in close, right hand in her hair, she's looking down at my chest so incredibly submissively...like she's relented all decision making... I pull her hair, instantly bring her head up, and her lips near mine and kiss her. This goes on for a few minutes before we look over at our friends, my buddies talking to a dutch girl, and bearded guy is walking off up the stairs to the dorm rooms... My buddy and the dutch girl look over to us, we wave from across the d-floor before heading outside to hook up some more. I really want to get laid... so I say "Lets uber back to mine".
"She says, I really want to but I can't tonight, hows friday night?"
I persist for a while, but she has to be up at 5.30am for a 4 hour bus trip on some kind of 3 day trip up north. So I eventually say goodbye to my buddy who'd managed to escalate things with this huge titted 7.5/10 dutch girl... I uber home, have a cold shower to try to ease my permanent hard-on she'd given me.
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Friday night
I'd been at a show, then drinks with friends and she's at a different backpacker bar with the people she'd been on the 3 day trip with. As its getting late, I message to see if she still wants to come back to mine...She says shes keen and ready to go but I have to come say Hi to her friends, before she's allowed to come home with me. I wanted to get laid, and I thought it would be a couple of nice foreign friends of hers that would give me the tick...
I walk in, and she's at a round table, her girlfriend Erin whose not hot (Her other girlfriend had already gone to her dorm to sleep) and 9 guys at the tethering ends of a huge night out on the booze.
9 younger backpacker dudes including bearded guy...
I'm in my work attire suited and booted, these guys are in singlets and shorts drinking Guiness and Ciders.
Trying to manage the awkwardness of the fact that I literally just rocked up to take 1 of 2 of the girls away from these guys making it a sausage fest, I go around the circle shaking hands, trying to make small talk but the bar is too loud.
I have a bit of friendly banter with her girlfriend before she says "Ok, he passes the test, you may go". Bearded man says, "do you always go for the younger girls?" I laugh and just say "...Yeah"
Lisa laughs, takes my arm whispers in my ear, "We should Uber".
We get back to mine, and she comes like 3 or 4 times before I come once, mainly cause she was easy to eat out to climax. I place my hand on her throat to 'lightly' choke her and she moans in ecstasy and says "Do more of that, much more and much harder".
It was strange to me to have this beautiful innocent looking girl next door type below me as I half cut off her air supply while I drove myself inside her, but the feeling of control over her absolutely drained my balls and she came uncontrollably moments later...
I told her in the morning... the awkwardness of the situation at the table last night and how I'm pretty sure bearded guy is into her. "She's like thats really weird, I really don't think so, he's just a really nice guy... he even paid for the 4 of us (her friend and his friend) for an airbnb next week while we find jobs and places to live more permanently...."
I'm like, "yea, he sure sounds like a nice guy" in an earnest as sounding way possible :) Before changing the subject.
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Patric_MasterBateman 6y ago
bearded guy will end up being Chad's kids step dad when the backpacker 9 is fat and out of her prime after riding the cc getting choked by OP
Wolveryn 6y ago
Lol not with my sperm will she be having kids
classicverdant 6y ago
Enjoyed reading the FR. You may want to learn how to use quotation marks though.
strikethrough123 6y ago
None of this happened folks. Don’t be fooled.
derrtderr 6y ago
Nice one. Way to manage beardo.
There were a few major hurdles but you handled them with class.
Taking the cold shower instead of pushing hard for the close. As you proved, it’s often better to back off and re-engage later than push a bad position.
Well played.
RevolutionaryPea7 6y ago
I love this... Do you think they really believe it?
100% of interactions between men and attractive women are at some level sexual. Every man is always trying to increase his chances of sleeping with her, no matter how small the odds are. But women either can't see this or delude themselves into thinking it's not true. I'm not sure which.
SimilarHamster 6y ago
They don't want to see it imo if girls understood the meaning behind every action they did they wouldn't be able to live happily.
destraht 6y ago
That is only because it contradicts their modern worldview that everyone is nice to each other, or maximum illusion. If their worldview was more compatible with "I tried and did it because I wanted to and I could" and that other people operate on the same conditions then reconciling the difference generates less emotional distress. Otherwise every interaction needs to be compared against complex interlocking wold views and any new information threatens to topple the entire framework. Women have the utmost difficulty in overcoming this and so they largely remain default just as they arrived in each culture. I really get this since I'm from California where the emotional and intellectual scene is completely locked down among polite company. I learned freedom of thought in Nicaragua and freedom of emotion in Eastern Europe. Otherwise as an edgy Californian I'd still be quite limited because the box is so small, or maybe I'd be at the place I'm now at the age of 70 by having to figure it all out myself instead of simply observing and integrating very different behaviors. So back to women, they aren't and never will be brave so they pretty much do anything to avoid emotional distress from contradictory world views and observations, but I propose that if they have more realistic world views then they will do the insane hamster spin much less to the point that they can even be reasonable and calm like a man as long as everything is going according to plan and their world views aren't being challenge. IMO they have very real cause to be distressed since they should have been given something better than a head fuck of an understanding of the world and it was never their role to figure everything out but just to receive it.
Iamthespiderbro 6y ago
I think in an effort to not feel guilty they compartmentalize it as “he’s just being nice”, when deep down they know they are essentially using the poor sap to get free shit.
Antivora 5y ago
Ding..ding.ding...and you found the point here. She does know exactly what is happening, and she feel a little bit guilt, but not more than she can supresse and still enjoy the free shit she gets.
Wolveryn 6y ago
Yea when I looked in her eyes I could see I was making her uncomfortable bringing it up, which was when I realised I shouldn’t have and changed the subject... let her compartmentalise it, got nothing to do with me :D
Iamthespiderbro 6y ago
Exactly. Where is it that you live?
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MrCongeniality1 6y ago
Congrats, brother. It sounds like you stayed relaxed and played things well.
The main thing that caught my attention was agreeing to go out so that her friends could approve of you. I probably would have done that back in the day, but I think I give few enough fucks now that I would have told her what I wanted to do to her over text and that her uber would be there in 30 minutes and she could take it or leave it.
Wolveryn 6y ago
Yea tbh I did try that, she pushed back with a take or leave it on me. Meet my friends or no deal...
If she’d mentioned she was with 9 drunk dudes I probably would have skipped it...
Talk about a shit test... the guys looked so drunk though I think they didn’t piece together the dynamics of the situation til Lisa and I were actually waving goodbye and heading out the main exit
hard-to-swallow 6y ago
Excellent FR, the round table bit in particular as it left me pondering how I might handle a similar situation. Not to get too bogged down in specifics, but I'm curious about
- your age vs the group
- number of the guys you knew from the previous night
- time spent shooting the shit w/ the boys before approaching your girl
- where you chose to sit
- your plan if you were met with hostility or indifference from the group
I suppose the age gap and the fact that none of the 9 dudes were actively gaming your girl simplified the ordeal. Still, it's an interesting spot. It sounds like the frame you chose was "be the fun older guy and befriend everyone". As a thought experiment, I wonder how your success rate would change if instead your frame was "be there to charm her and any gatekeepers (e.g. her gf) and pull" while glossing over the rest of the circle.
Wolveryn 6y ago
I’m 32, Lisa 27, my mate 31, beardo was 29, the rest of the circle were 22-24 apparently...
Most of them had only just met the week prior, except for Lisa’s 2 friends who she was travelling with.
I only recognised Beardo.
On the Friday night, I would have been there for a total of 10 mins max... I’d come from a bar with my mates but couldn’t convince them to join me as wingmen as they knew I just wanted to get there, then leave to get laid... plus they knew the backpacker bar was a dive bar
I sat next to Lisa at the table... it was pretty fucken awkward as I don’t think they were expecting me to rock up...
I had no plan, as I wasn’t even told that her ‘friends’ were dudes nor that there was 9 of them.
My plan was to be a happy friendly dude, and get Lisa to leave with me ASAP I guess...
I didn’t need to really charm her at this point, as we’d already hooked up at the bar on Tuesday night... and she really only wanted her friend Erin to give the stamp of approval...
I guess she didn’t want to appear slutty... going home with a random dude who wouldn’t even come inside to say hi... which is fair
SuperCrazy07 6y ago
LOL I thought you were going to say you’re 45 and she was 22. 32 and 27 is almost not worth mentioning as a factor.
hard-to-swallow 6y ago
Thanks for the replies, bud.
I agree w/ another comment below that the age difference seems negligible.
Since you say you've already charmed her, what do you think would have happened if you simply ordered her an Uber via text and told her to come? She could make up any excuse to leave at that point and it would avoid the potential clusterfuck.
This reminds me of the choice between "let's go find your friends" when you move a girl who's insisting on finding her friends vs "okay, but come meet my friends real quick". The former seems like going backwards since it's merging you back into her friend group and the latter just escalates an existing isolation with a venue change. One is clearly better than the other.
Cheers.
Wolveryn 6y ago
Haha I actually thought she was 24/25, I remember her saying in reply “oh I’m sorry, am I not young enough for you? Do you normally aim for the under20’s...?”
I replied, by pausing to think about the question as if to imply she’s right... but clearly I was joking... but I say “yea... unfortunately you’re too old”
She replied “ok cool, I’ll go back to my friends then” before I pulled her into me and kissed her
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SimilarHamster 6y ago
Its for reflection and learning. Some of us have never been balls deep in a girl. This guy did so maybe if we emulate his behavior patterns we too can enjoy success.
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frognads 6y ago
Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it aint possible kid. This kind of shit happens sometimes, and it's fucking glorious when it does. So what if the guy went down on a girl the first time? That's totally up to him. I personally avoid it for most ONS's but I'd be lying if I said I never did it.
You just come off as a younger guy without much experience.
Wolveryn 6y ago
Lol how old are you? Are you a teenager yourself?
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RossDDMarshalls 6y ago
It's a field report displaying game in action. That falls under the purview The Red Pill. He gets to organize his thoughts and experiences, share it with others, and get feedback. What sort of content would you deem more appropriate for this subreddit?
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Wolveryn 6y ago
I swear it’s accurate with no embellishments. Some girls love BDSM, choking, pulling hair, spanking , slapping... they love it all... I mentioned the choking because it’s something I’ve struggled to understand myself... and I suspect many here are in a similar boat... the concepts of BDSM don’t typically come as obvious to a guy... especially when you’re with a cute/beautiful woman... why would degrading her be something that drives her wild? It’s taken me years to really understand the basics of it
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P91XXX 6y ago
Dude, nothing about this story is out of the ordinary. It reads as European for sure, but nothing absurd. I've pulled off similar stuff myself from time to time and I'm way younger than this dude. Check my post history if you want, I don't comment often for the amount of time I spend on this site. This FR is not bullshit.
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P91XXX 6y ago
So what? Is the story implausible? Or this just a comforting lie to keep you company.
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Wolveryn 6y ago
Want me to send screenshots of our WhatsApp message exchange?
P91XXX 6y ago
At this point you are concern trolling. And I'm not sure what you think you mean by "plenty of people."
Zoltiel 6y ago
This was an entertaining read
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RossDDMarshalls 6y ago
This is quality stuff. More good things are coming out of the comments, but your post would have improved if you provided some of your own post game analysis in some fashion. Even if you feel you have more to learn and grow and want feedback, any distillation of take away points will make a post more cohesive and valuable.
As it stands, this reads like a raw journal entry. It's a nice read, but due to the format the nuggets are delegated to the comments.
xaos9 6y ago
Lolz the bearded paid for their airbnb definitely expecting to buy his way into her pants. I genuinely feel sorry for that dumbass. Someone pliss introduce him to trp
Wolveryn 6y ago
When I looked around at the 9 guys at the table, I was thinking this reminds me of me in my mid 20’s... they could definitely use some TRP knowledge in their lives