Preface
Hello gentlemen, in this post I will be discussing the outlying behaviors of women that I’ve been with. I am still young (21) but the women I’ve been with since I lost my virginity two years ago are plenty. Not all women I’ve been with have exhibited this behavior, but the women that have are noteworthy. I know, I know, AWALT has already been beaten to death, but I enjoy reading from other people’s experiences and applying the knowledge into my own life, and I hope you all do as well. So let’s put on our blindfolds and beat the AWALT piñata some more.
Kathy
Kathy was my first girlfriend, and the girl I lost my virginity to. Long-story short, she she created the ultimate facade: Cheating on me for the entirety of our relationship (6 months) while convincing me that she was madly in love with me. I actually only fucked her after we broke up, and after discovering TRP.
There were multiple signs for her behavior:
- Projection. She would always accuse me of cheating.
- Evasiveness. She would change the topic when it came to what she was doing when I wasn’t around.
- Lying. She lied about who she was with.
There were many red flags to begin with, but I was desperate.
Lesson: Trust your instincts. If something seems off, something is off.
Lina
Lina was a good girl. She claims she has only been with two people before me, and she was my 5th. She also created a magical facade, hence the first sentence. The red-flags were:
- Fucked her raw on the first day.
- She was loud and obnoxious with her friends but quiet and reserved when with me. I can attribute this behavior to multiple factors, but it ultimately taught me to stay away from women that are blatantly two-faced.
Lina is a first hand example of the light-switch effect. Long story short, she disappeared one week after I told her I loved her. Note that she sacrificed plenty of her time in order to spend it with me. I barely spent a dime on this girl. She was an FWB that I became extremely attached to, and this attachment backfired. She found a better dude.
Lessons: Congruency is important. She got too close, and realized I wasn’t the guy she first met. Opening up put the icing on the cake. She left.
Lindsey
Lindsey was freshly 18, still in high school. She was sneaking boys in her room at night when her parents were asleep. She was my 7th. She was only a plate.
Her shamelessness astonished me. She looked like a good girl as well.
Lessons: They’re all getting dicked down. That innocent looking college freshman.. who knows what she’s done.
Tanya
Tanya is a bold-faced slut. Her father and many of her friends think she’s still a virgin. She has been with 20+ dudes, and she is only 19. She lost her virginity when she was 18 (not to me). She was my 2nd.
This is an example of how easy it is for women to find dick, although mediocre. This plate hasn’t cracked yet. She worships my body and is absolutely amazing in bed. I have not failed a single shit test, and have created a facade for her. She is a prime of example of how important it is to using a woman’s imagination to serve your agenda (she thinks I’m a drug dealer, lol) In our one year of on and off fucking, I bought her a burger. The particular reason why I keep this plate around is because she is self-aware, she knows what she’s attracted to, and is brutally honest with her intentions.
Lessons: Find a woman that is aware of TRP truths. It’s quite different hearing it from the horse’s mouth.
Amanda
Amanda was a virgin with giant tits. She said she was saving it for marriage. We made out and then fucked. Her current boyfriend thinks she’s still a virgin (lol). I fucked her a handful of times. She was my 8th.
I failed a shit-test, then extreme flaky behavior ensued. She told me she was on her period for two weeks. Needless to say, I dropped this plate.
Lessons: Don’t tolerate flaky behavior. Three strikes and she’s out. Many here will not tolerate even one strike. But let’s face it, sometimes something actually comes up.
Gina
Gina is a college girl that will do anything for good dick. The first time we fucked was the best sex of her life (sex-god method, read it). She drives 40 minutes to my place within a day’s notice. She was my 11th.
Lessons: Fucking them good is the only thing that matters in the end. If she knows she can’t get fucked better elsewhere, she’ll stay. However, she will leave if you betaize yourself to the point where she loses attraction.
Samantha
Samantha was a coworker. She’s an example of how women can’t keep their mouths shut. Long story short, her kissing and telling got both of us fired. Don’t shit where you eat. She was my 4th.
Lessons: Don’t shit where you eat.
Jane
Jane was a Tinder hook-up in a new city. After we fucked, she answered her boyfriend’s call and told him she was about to sleep. Her voice didn’t even show a tinge of remorse, and her boyfriend thinks she’s tucked in at home.
I have no doubt been the boyfriend in this situation. It’s absolutely eye-opening to witness this from the other side. She was my 16th.
Lessons: Don’t be so quick to promote them to girlfriend. Vet them properly.
Angelica:
Angelica was on old friend that friend zoned me. She hit me up out of the blue saying she wants to hang out. I was not the same guy that I was, and have been doing relatively well for myself. We hang out, she calls me shallow and says not to treat her like one of my bitches. I chuckle and spank her. We fuck in my car before her friend’s birthday.
Lessons:The girls that may once have rejected you may come around. The only way to escape the friend-zone is to forget about the ones that friend-zoned you. Do not let anyone have power over your mind.
Conclusion: In these two short years, I’ve had sex with 22 women. It’s not much by today’s standards, but out of these experiences, I’ve learned a lot, and my old BP views are absolutely shattered.
When you take a walk in the minefield, you will inevitably step on some. You can either be shown where the mines are, or step on them yourself.
Frenchy100 6y ago
You call some of these sluts, but don't forget that you're one as well.
strikethrough123 6y ago
“A key that unlocks many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets unlocked by many keys is a shitty lock”.
I love fucking sluts. However, I wouldn’t commit to one. I don’t mind being a slut, and I don’t expect any of them to commit to me.
Most men have to work to get pussy, so it’s recognized and seen as an accomplishment. Women can get dick just for existing, so it’s not seen as much of a feat. I wasn’t born with a commodity that instantly makes me valuable to the opposite sex, I had to develop myself in order to get it.
Frenchy100 6y ago
Yeah that's the thing. It's pretty sad if you developed yourself just to get sex. There is much more to life, what you're describing sounds like glorified masturbation.
strikethrough123 6y ago
Now you’re just nitpicking. You clearly have nothing of value to contribute.
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joner888 6y ago
Amazing post , can correlate alot of your experiences to a situation ive been in recently.
Its cool to learn from other peoples experiences so you can view your own from a different perspective .
Sciptr 6y ago
Man love to see experience lists. How do you turn a tinder into a first day smash? Any posts on tinder game, etc? I get matched w high HB but can’t pull through.
clausternn 6y ago
Same. You won't find a guide that helps you with that, because really it's an art. It's a crapshot. Mallardcove's guide helps you get matches in my opinion, not so much turn them into dates.
If you look like Chad it's easier, just make sexual innuendos and escalate (but don't be aggressive).
If you just look like an average or above average dude, then I don't know. Be funny. Make conversation. Try to connect with them, as hard as that may be when you're simply words on a screen.
TRP advoces texting for logistics only, and getting that Tinder date ASAP. That doesn't work for me where I live, like at all. A more successful strategy for me is that I turn into their texting buddy for a couple days before any of them will agree to a date.
ozfish83 6y ago
So true texting only for logistics just doesn't work for me. Takes a few days off witty texts back and forth before I can lock anything down.
Andgelyo 6y ago
Escalate immediately. Get her number within 5 messages. Text, send and receive nudes. Establish a "hang out" at hers or your place. Smash like you wouldn't live to see tomorrow. Thank me later.
space_bees_101 6y ago
Ok, newb to the nudes game. How do you like to escalate to sending nudes after they're opened.
I match, open with a neutral friendly line not too complimentary about them (probably still nice guy shit), they respond back "hey :)" ..
From there I seem to give them just enough about me to be interested, but I think it comes across as a beta relationship guy, rather than a top 20% guy response. As if I preclude myself from the club. I am a decent guy (looks, my own business, interesting hobbies, but still skinny).
I think if we were to send nudes it would make for a more fun first meeting for the both of us as we know what each other are looking for at that point, and cue radical acceptance of sexual innuendo from that point on.
clausternn 6y ago
I'm guessing you look like an average guy while /u/Andgelyo looks like damn near a male model. Tinder is just a completely different ballgame depending what you look like.
space_bees_101 6y ago
Well, fair guess. I actually look pretty good, I'm just too skinny and incredibly insecure with my interactions. Hence, my question.
clausternn 6y ago
Too skinny may mean you don't look good enough to pull that shit off. I don't know.
Point being, if the other guy is getting left and right and establishing a hangout at his place, that doesn't mean you would too.
I'm an average guy and I have to talk with them for a couple days before starting to set up first dates at a neutral location. I ditch the ones that seem flakey/uninterested (which, to be fair, is the vast majority of them). I've tried the escalate immediately approach and get a date quickly approach, it never worked for me, not once. I don't even bother trying to get nudes.
Looks is very much a confounding variable when discussing Tinder strategies.
buttgoogler 6y ago
There's a Tinder game post somewhere by /u/mallardcove, check it out.
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itzReborn 6y ago
Man this. I'm a college sophomore whose a virgin but every time i see a decently pretty girl on campus I always assume she getting it from someone else and physiologically scare myself and not approach (plus approach anxiety as well)
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kez88 6y ago
Then you need to stop thinking that and stop using it as an excuse not to approach. Just because you may be right that she's getting dicked down doesn't mean its a helpful thought.
jonpe87 6y ago
Son, you still care too much, one day you will be angry at yourself of how much value you put at something that has not even half of that value
615bachelor 6y ago
I graduated college a few years ago and got redpilled fast once I realized how much sex women were having . The sweet girl who has a 4.0 Gpa in honors chemistry has a body count of ten the first semester. College was just a huge fuckfest. I seen girls who came from two parent conservative homes with no tattoos still get smashed by a shit Ton of guys in one semester. It’s a hard pill to swallow but most women of our generation aren’t girlfriend material. A lot of them will have more sexual partners than we can dream of. I know that sucks but it’s the truth.
I would say that the average body count of a women who just turned 20 is at least 20 if she went to college and that’s a huge underestimate. I was in a frat and seen girls have threesomes with random guys each weekend. Best thing for you to do is to improve yourself and just pump and dump. 90% of the women you will encounter will just want to ride the carousel. Today’s women want to fuck a shit ton of guys while most guys just want the one girl to be with lol
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
I drove for Uber for a bit and I gave this one ride to a college freshman who was on his way home from his frat’s party at some private club that could be rented out. It was for some event.
Anyway he said he fucked 6 different chicks in the vip of the club that night. He wasn’t even a studly guy either. Pretty average freshman. I don’t think he was lying either. I just think the cred that a good frat provides will make these women into absolute whores.
itzReborn 6y ago
yeah but without joining a frat how would i meet girls who just wanna fuck? Just go to parties?
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ex_addict_bro 6y ago
Creating rejection buffers
space_bees_101 6y ago
Can you elaborate? Just build confidence/smv?
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Well, you are aware of the problem, so just fix it. Approach.
blackleaf31 6y ago
Being aware of the problem and being able to fix the problem are two totally different propositions.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Just hung out and exchanged numbers with an innocent looking girl (college freshman) that she herself mentioned she was an introvert. Asked her what her body count is and she said "10, give or take. All older guys by a couple years. Found them all on Instagram". Rejected her as lightly as I could as a precaution. As soon as she said "I have trust issues" my gut reaction flared up
It's so surreal when you hear about this then experience it firsthand. I did not feel good at all. I take solace in knowing there are still virgins out there that fit my standards (probably wont be lucky to find a few though)
Arthas93 6y ago
Virgin girls? You mean the babies still in their mother wombs? Because reality today is that after 15 no woman is a virgin no more. I can't think of any woman that is still a virgin at 18 let alone past that.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
I can so you are incorrect. You are far too extreme
space_bees_101 6y ago
IDK bro, I know of a lot of Christian girls that use their faith as a buffer from their promiscuous behavior. Hamster hamster hamster, but I would hope I could find one.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Very hard to find although they're out there. I know of the same situation although they are out there, not some sort of extinct species
blackleaf31 6y ago
22 women is a shit ton a lot from my late 30s point of view, so good for you I guess, but some of us are well behind you over here.
vicvyper04 6y ago
Where could I read more about this sexy god method??
buttgoogler 6y ago
It's a book by Daniel Rose. I have a pdf version of it, so hit me up if you won't find anything.
space_bees_101 6y ago
Hey man, I found the book online but can't find the link anymore. Can I pm you for the pdf too??
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vicvyper04 6y ago
You are a saint, I’ll have a gander now. Cheers pal!
buttgoogler 6y ago
Good luck with your naughty shenanigans, Sir.
ThiccNiggaGeorge 6y ago
What the title of the book?
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Leave behind this common, bluepillish lookism idea. Looks, such as facial aestethics, are fairly far down on women's check lists, for evolutionary reasons. The majority of qualities that women appreciate (abundance, frame, status, game...) you can aquire, no matter the starting point.
This topic has been beaten to death, read the sidebar, buddy.
jacked_degenerate 6y ago
not bluepill, that's blackpill. That ultimately looks, something you have minimal control over, are everything.
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Excuse me if I come across as harsh, but: Work with what you have, or don't, buddy, it's your choice. Nobody forces you to be anything. You can dwell in self-righteous limiting beliefs for the rest of your life, that's fine. Yes, some of us have it easier then others, it's not fair in this regard. But there is no mommy to comfort you that you did well anyway. Work with what you have, or don't. Again, read the sidebar, brother.
clausternn 6y ago
You're both wrong. Looks is very helpful, yes, if you have average looks you'll be invisible to women. If you look like a male model you're a billion steps ahead.
That said, if you have average looks but solid game and/or status, you'll be pulling women left and right. Just like looks, game and status are also very very helpful.
If all you have is looks and no game no nothing, you can easily get cucked, and you can easily strike out with most of those hot girls you're pining for.
I get it man, I'm sorry for that. We all have problems. All we can do is ignore the problems we can't change and fix the ones we can. Tinder's "most swiped-right man" is black.
hepahepahepa 6y ago
Can confirm im handsome as fuck and turn heads everywhere I go but I have pretty bad game and Im monotone. Possible aspergers..
Im not even doing anything that awkward really but once the girls can detect im a bit "eccentric" they ghost me. Its very common to me that girls are initially very interested then in wanes almost after one or two encounters.
But yeah you can be very handsome and not get laid looks really only get you so far.
falconiawillfall 6y ago
Same bro. I get the same looks, especially while clubbing and I've had girls tell me I should model but I've only ever fucked one girl, my ex. My game is non existent, was a huge nerd growing up, had a diverse social circle and partied but man when it comes to escalating I am clueless. Only got with my ex because we met up at a rave when we were friends and I was on mdma so my confidence was through the roof LOL
VolatileEnemy 6y ago
It's not easy to account.
By the way, you can fail as: an attractive person with no game.
You can fail as: an average person with a lot of great game.
But the looks & height are #1 factor, because it's really one of the main ways to get a phone number or a date.
clausternn 6y ago
That's just wrong. All three are very important. No way to say which is 'more' important. But usually, you can't be great at one but terrible at the other two.
strikethrough123 6y ago
That’s a lot of women depending on who you ask. I hang around a lot of dudes that 22 women is a fraction of what they’ve had, so from my perspective it doesn’t seem like much. Certainly, from my 17-year-old me’s perspective 22 women would be off the charts.
I’d say I’m fairly good-looking. Good facial aesthetics and a cut body. I’m 5’7 though so I’m on the short side, but height has never really been a problem. I will say that I’ve been disqualified before due to my height, but everyone has their preference.
Don’t think that all these women are hotties either. I’ve fucked a few fatties.
rurall_4life 6y ago
Haha OP that’s great. “A few fatties”. I’m 5’7” as well. Good looking dude with a naturally cut body. Between ages 19-25, I’m approaching 50 on my body count. Like you say, some people aren’t an option because of being shorter, but I’ll tell you right now, the game is that much more fun with limitations! It feels awesome to score so often and not be a total Chad. Some taller girls can’t resist when your game is strong and your smv is constantly improving. You’re doing great OP. Keep it up!
InDepthWeThrive 6y ago
I’m definitely average and have fucked more than 22... I’m a bold faced liar and women love that, I can and will say the right things to get into their pants and ghost them.
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You are triple the worldwide average before age 22 - certainly not representative.
https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/average-number-of-sexual-partners
"The average number of sexual partners in all their life for men and women in the United States is 7.2, reports a recent Superdrug survey. ... Louisiana residents reported an average of 15.7 sexual partners, while Utah clocked in at 2.6 ... the average differs throughout Europe. Respondents in the United Kingdom averaged seven partners, while Italy averaged 5.4.
According to the survey, women said 1.9 partners was too conservative, while men said 2.3.
On the flipside, 30 percent of people said they were “somewhat likely” or “very likely” to end a relationship if their partner had too many sexual partners.
Women are generally more flexible than men when it comes to their partners’ sexual history, viewing 15.2 partners as “too promiscuous.” Men said they prefer partners with 14 or less."
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TheReformist94 6y ago
if you have a solid face, 5'7 will get you swimming in pussy
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
Not swimming. Opportunities for pussy but not swimming.
I’m 5’7 and been called beautiful/handsome etc many times, and I’m ripped but I was never swimming in pussy. Did get some reasonably fine ass at moments tho.
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VolatileEnemy 6y ago
OP is probably lying and exaggerating. The whole post stinks of brag.
I know plenty of very attractive men, leading successful lives, taller than him, older than him, with game by the way, not getting that much pussy. They have a whole myriad of failures. He could of course be a 5'7" male model, but he confesses that he does fuck some fatties.
Talska 6y ago
Bro you're braver than I am to fuck landwhales
VolatileEnemy 6y ago
You think you can fuck 22 good-looking women by age 21? No you can't. He's fucked a lot of horrible chicks and fatties. That's the part he's not telling you.
Let alone a short guy fucking all these women, yeah it helps to be in college/high-school, and he seems to think his own friends are fucking way more than him. It's a lot of bullshit (by his friends). If he fucked 22 as he says, then it's probably just mostly fatties/fuglies.
Just the way he keeps saying "22 girls. It's not much by today's standards" -- it's a post about him bragging. Maybe he fucked 10 ugly chicks for all we know. Or 8, since he listed 8 names.
tibikush2012 6y ago
I am as tall as him and fucked a lot of women... I never seem to understand why people find it hard to believe that a non 6ft guy can have sexual success (Actually I know). If you have decent face, body, height all you need is to know how to act with women and you will bed them.
Me apart, I know lots of non Hot dudes who have huge success with women. Character goes a long way (unless you are unattractive).
jacked_degenerate 6y ago
because height is a massive factor with women. I've never met a decent girl who doesn't avoid short guys like the plague.
tibikush2012 6y ago
I agree. Women in most cases are not attracted to short guys.
Only thing is that A REAL 5'7 barefoot guy is not really short (or atleast not short enough to be put in the category of the °ewe he is short"). Most people inflate their height by 2-3 inches so when people think 5'7 they are imagining a 5'4-5'5 guy.
Same as to everyone being 6'+ on the internet while only 20% of the population are that height or taller
BydandMathias 6y ago
5'8 barefoot and I'm typically the 2nd-4th shortest dude in my senior classes out 10-12 males. It's short enough to disqualify you a bit, but not short enough to be unable to get laid. It doesn't help comparatively that most dudes I'm friends with are 6'1-6'5.
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Are you from the Netherlands? Because most dudes I see on the streets are between 5'9 to 5'11
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Sciptr 6y ago
Probably found what she thought to be a chad and ran off. Then learned otherwise?
strikethrough123 6y ago
Never heard from her again.
rebelde_sin_causa 6y ago
Once you get to be an old fart, you'll realize how great that time was
Genius1001 6y ago
Wow I did not girls that flake on you may come around again. Great stories too
strikethrough123 6y ago
I should’ve been more specific. By “flake” I meant that is when plans are made and then she cancels before we’re supposed to meet-up. If arrive at the venue and she isn’t there, that’s an immediate ghost.
jazztaprazzta 6y ago
How did you meet these women? How did you approach them?
strikethrough123 6y ago
Day game, bar game, Tinder, friends of friends. The last few were actually after I mustered up some courage to hit the bars and the clubs alone. I never expected that drunk and tipsy girls were this much easier to game. There’s a night and day difference between night and day game (lol). Day game you have to be much more subtle and smooth, night game you can be way more direct without crossing boundaries. Why? Because the girls in the bars and clubs are there to get hit on, while the ones walking to their classes or shopping for groceries are there to do what they’re there to do.
Luckyluke23 6y ago
how does one stop comparing himself to others?
this is a really BIG sticking point for me right now. especially after reading this post of the dude having sex all the time and i'm not.
how does one reject that reality and live his own?
strikethrough123 6y ago
You can ever truly stop comparing yourself to others. Instead, shift your perspective from “damn that guy’s so much better me” to “one day I’ll be better than that guy” and just keep grinding.
A lot of this has to do with accepting yourself. Recognize your shortcomings and work to improve them, or double down on your strengths. I choose the latter.
The worst thing you can do is succumb to denial. If you see someone better than you, and you know damn well you’ll never get to their level (in whatever facet of life they’re better at) and you convince yourself you will, then you’re fucked. It takes more effort for an average dude to catch up to someone who’s naturally talented than for someone naturally talented to improve on their talent.
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