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tl:dr; Basically the author of this article/video gives the same crap advice of 'appreciating her' and the tone is so weak and apologetic to cheating women its frankly disgusting
First, some thoughts about this issue as a chinese american immigrant Truth is TRP is mostly about western men having issues with their partners. My relatives in China have strong family units because the women are taught and trained well to listen to their man. Most Chinese women (in china) who have arranged marriages would not cheat at all. Their culture/family would (rightfully) shun them for life. Same goes for vietnamese, Indian, and Middle Eastern cultures. Possibly African as well. So when it comes to this link, understand that the smaller pool of western women who date and have not had arranged marriages are most likely going to have much higher rates. Most people in TRP are dating/marrying in this pool
Now that that is out of the way, I wanna rant on a few things in the video:
"39% of women have said that they have physically cheated" As explained above, the numbers are likely higher. On top of that, he puts emphasis on "physically". If we included cybersex what would the numbers be? What would the numbers be if women told the truth? A number of women are likely full out lying. That one time was anal. I was drunk. It was a one time thing. It was rape. We were on break. We weren't official then
"Combination of emotional and sexual dissatisfaction"
"Three areas of emotional distress"
okay lets see where this goes...
"Time"
"Lack of appreciation. Make two appreciative gestures daily"
"Women feeling that they aren't heard"
"It's about the romance. The one thing all women care about is the size of a man's heart" Bullshit. A large chunk of men on Red Pill were sensitive and romantic. Thats probably why they got fucked over by some girl on started reading the sidebar. If anything its the opposite. Dudes who don't give a fuck have women on their dick. Majority of men on here I would bet placed their "mission" in behind their woman. Bad move. They listened to her bs, appreciated her a lot, and probably stop working as hard when their GF complained about not having time together. I mean thats the reason we are all here right? Because we listened to mainstream garbage advice like this and got cheated on/lied to?
My mom has been happily married to my dad and listens to him. Tries to keep the family unit together as much as possible. She isn't sitting there bitching about how she isn't appreciated. This man works his ass to support his family. Sometimes he doesn't have time for that. And she understands this. She understands a man's day can sometimes be hard, and just tries to be there and loyal.
the tone of the overall video was that it was sort of the man's fault she cheated in the first place
Which is utterly stupid. If a woman cheats in the man's job to take care of her/fault? How about women start taking responsibility for your actions?
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-men-drive-women-cheat-can-prevent-husbands-wives-2016-2
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Unholy_VI 8y ago
Well it is the man's fault.
Not for the reasons stated though. It started when he get oneits for her. Continued as she tested him to see if she was in complete control of the relationship (she was) parlayed that into a marriage where she had all the leverage and he had none.
The final act was that she realized he was her little bitchboy and that she needed (not wanted, needed) to be fucked by a man that was strong masculine and most importantly, could take her or leave her and not give two shits. So she made that happen and why not? She knew if the husband ever found out he'd blame himself and she would come up with all kinds of ways to reinforce that idea.
In the end they'd do some counceling, maybe she'd shed a few crocodile tears asnd let him have a little starfish sex (after all, her anus needs a rest from her chad's cock) and things would go back to normal.
So yeah, tells you right there at least 40% of men who get into LTRs do it the wrong way for the wrong reason and get the only possible result from that. blame the women for being women all you want it isn't going to change them.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Women cheat for three reasons.
All three being cunt moves which should only confirm your suspicions and prime her for nuclear hard nexting.
Also, women that believe they are somehow 'winning' when they are getting pumped and dumped by Chad. They are not, they are losing every single time. Women "get fucked" after all, it's in the words. If a guy bounces after nailing the girl she essentially lost it all whilst getting nothing in return. Don't be fooled gentlemen. The sluts you observe in life are bellow you, not above you.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
You forgot the main reason a woman cheat: for feelz. The excitement, the novelty, the adrenaline of the forbidden.
All the other reasons are secondary
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
In a way, validation equals feelz. The rush of getting the time and attention of Chad. The novelty of it being 'forbidden love'. She'll tell herself all these dumb ass things.
Whilst Chad just uses her as a container. So much for winning.
omonicor 8y ago
And after being dumped they return with you saying you're "the one" haha.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Typical yeah, by that time you should know you LTR'd a low value loser.
omonicor 8y ago
Why they always return when you next them? I'm in this situation where she was preparing to branch swing, the guy dumped her, and now she cries for an opportunity.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Because you showed them they didn't mean allot to you. When you next them you move on. It's insulting to them. You take away all commitment.
It's like guys wanting to fuck their exes still. Women want the commitment of their exes.
Don't get weak and keep on the hard next until she's ready to jump of a bridge bro.
omonicor 8y ago
I must admit it's hard bro. But I'm in the right path, being a recently unplugged one.
meninistMD 8y ago
Those are not reasons, those are excuses. women cheat because they lack the moral compass and society gave the carte blanche with freedom of responsibility.
beginner_ 8y ago
This isn't outright wrong. If she cooks you a nice meal and gives you a bj, show her your appreciation.
The problem is the lack of things women to for men to even deserve appreciation. These women think they deserve it just because they exist.
warm20 8y ago
well they are illogical and emotional so it does make sense
mractivo 8y ago
We all cheat and we will continue to cheat. Period.
karpathian 8y ago
Remember they're like cheeky children, you have to watch them like children, and are responsible for them like they're your kid. Sure you have to keep working hard but don't forget to spend time with them like they're your little girl so they can have that "daddy cares about me!" Thought in their head, try to appreciate what they do like you would appreciate your kids doing chores so they're encouraged to continue working hard, give them a challenge in the kitchen even and pretend to like it even though if they mess up.
In all the strongest families where the wife is still head over heals the girls still do house chores as does the wife and the men don't lift a finger because it's a woman's job, the men tend to do outdoor related chores and fix things. When it comes to older kids in their late teens/ adulthood the wife is no longer an authority parent figure but one of the kids that has some more control over money and permissions of things but the husband is the boss.
mightythickdick 8y ago
What's the biggest cause of divorce? Marriage. What poor retard even gets married anymore?
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DiebytheSword666 8y ago
I lived in Shanghai, and I'm in Shenzhen now. I can't believe how rampant cheating is over here. Since you're Chinese, you probably know about the social media app.s WeChat and TanTan. When I use the "look around" feature for the former, I get faceless women who befriend me. After they send a pic. and I probe a bit, I find out that they're married.
But then again, you did say "arranged marriages."
kaiwanxiaode 8y ago
Lol! As someone who also lived in China, he sure is seeing his homeland through some rose tinted glasses. Cheating is rampant in China.
MichiganManMatt 8y ago
As a single, childless man in his late 30's, I've been with more married woman than not. I cannot tell you how easy it is to sway an even happily married woman into my bed and I've been doing it since I was 15. I don't trust any women aside from my own mom. AWALT
d0lphinsex 8y ago
Under The Influence by D12-Bizarre
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bluedrygrass 8y ago
And here's your contraddiction and mistake. You mom is like that too, you said AWALT yourself, remember?
MichiganManMatt 8y ago
That was an intentional juxtaposition since the vast majority of men aren't trying to game their own mothers. I think a good mom-son relationship is about the only place a man can hear it straight from a woman, but I understand even that can be a false hope.
Joseph_the_Carpenter 8y ago
Doesn't happen, if you are talking about getting advice on women from your mother. They are just as clueless as the rest.
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How do you do it without hitting on the wrong woman that is faithful and tells her husband (leading to a confrontation perhaps)?
Askada 8y ago
I actually laughed out loud on this one.
Women love free validation. No woman ever will turn it away. They just don't like unattractive guys hitting on them, everyone else is free game and they fucking love it.
lol
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If you push the envelope enough (from flirty to hitting on her hard) some women will tell, if not simply to make their husbands jealous.
So, I guess you just continually escalate while maintaining plausible deniability.
Noctis_Cloud 8y ago
Silverlining-
You have a 40% chance of fucking a married woman
topdog82 8y ago
haha true. Probably more tho
mightythickdick 8y ago
Glass half full! I like it! Hmmm, undersexed, horny woman desperate for discretion and no strings attached? Sounds like a gold lining to me! That's if you can find a married woman who's worth fucking. Ah, there's the rub. Also, you stand a chance of being killed should the husband find out.
buli145 8y ago
Awesome.
I never approach a woman that I know it's married. I used to think: "Oh, she's married, she will never fuck me because of that". Reading your comment made me rethink this.
And 40% is the percentage of woman who admited cheating. I bet this number is higher because a lot of the interviewed woman won't tell the truth.
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It's not silver lining. It's the only material point.
a4b 8y ago
Only if she wants to do it with you.
mr_nate_ 8y ago
"She say she only fucked like 4-5 niggas, So you know you gotta multiply by 3." - J. Cole
0xdada 8y ago
No wonder women suck at math, any number they are presented with they automatically divide by 3 by instinct:
It's all becoming clear.
d0lphinsex 8y ago
People that are procrastinating are told to multiply their time estimations with Pi. I think that the reversed should be the case with women as well.
AlerioX 8y ago
Damn, now I know why my ex couldn't stay together with me. She was a virgin when I met her and she was unable to divide 1 by 3.
low_key_like_thor 8y ago
Dated a chick a while ago. This conversation happens. "I've really only been with 4 guys" by the end of our relationship there were at least 10..
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MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Women get support, men get blame. Regardless of who is really at fault.
When a man does something, he's responsible and guilty by default.
When a woman does something, the boyfriend is blamed first, immediately followed by any men in her past, immediately followed by her controlling father (if she was raised in a two parent family) or her absent father (if raised by a single mother).
The social need to protect-the-women is now "protect women's feels" and "protect women's self-respect and dignity even where none exists". Anyone doing otherwise is a traitor (if female) or a bully (if male).
dr_warlock 8y ago
Any time the facade of the feminine mystique is pierced, the blame is displaced elsewhere. Often reframed as men's fault.
The real reason women cheat: because they can.
TheReformist94 8y ago
They're just fed up fucking the same man.surprised any of them manage to remain faithful at all with the ease and lack consequenxe.women have extreme desire for variety.l
dr_warlock 8y ago
Long term monogamy isn't natural.
Cunt_Robber 8y ago
Damnit I feel like I'm re-entering my anger phase reading these comments
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mojo_juju 8y ago
Accept the model and move on. You think you'll change it/her/them? I have news...
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference."
- Reinhold Niebuhr
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NoNotoriety 8y ago
Again, this number is pretty useless unless we get the number for men too. Yes, women are inherently unfaithful and will fuck an alpha if they are so inclined, but men will fuck women outside their relationships too.
PEOPLE are unfaithful. Stop putting men on pedestal and perpetuating this 'woe is me' victim mentality. I've seen enough people cheat from both genders to not trust anyone with genitals and a sex drive.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Wrong. This number tells us exactly what we need to know, since it is what the study and OP is about. You are confusing the issue.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
give it a rest. Everyone already knows men cheat, its like a pillar of soceity.
However, many people are raised to believe women dont cheat, and that is where this anger comes from.
vandaalen 8y ago
Just apply the 80/20-rule and you've got your numbers. You are welcome.
NoNotoriety 8y ago
that's because women are the gatekeepers of sex. i don't think anyone would argue that 90% of men would cheat if a hot young 10 approached them when they were out and about. so, in reality, the only difference is that while men desire to cheat as much as women, most women won't let them stick their dick in them
bluedrygrass 8y ago
Then you're far from understanding the whole picture. Yes, men are less likely to cheat, because they're naturally more logical, have more self control and more loyal.
Oneitis is the best manifestation of that. When men with even very high smv desperately fall in love for mediocre girls, and wouldn't change them for anyone else. Those girls can even repeatedly, openly cheat on them, and nothing, they're still fixated on them and them only.
there's a biological reason for that: men have been selected to respect bondings, while females have only been pressured from external forces, thus never developing it.
Now that those forces have dissipated, there's nothing keeping a female loyal except the initial feelings, that can turn at any moment.
NoNotoriety 8y ago
Logic has nothing to do with it. Look at gay guys, they are a great example of what happens when there is no gate keeper of sex. Why do you think gay guys cheat so much and have risky unprotected sex? STD rates are higher in the gay community for this reason.
When men are horny logic goes completely out the window. How many successful and rich men have thrown away their careers and lives over a stupid affair or sex scandal? Im sorry, but I just don't but that argument.
JackGetsIt 8y ago
He didn't say men are perfect. He said 'more' logical, 'more' self control. Of course men are capable of making shit mistakes and hamstering logic away. You're just not seeing the high profile women cheaters because they rarely get punished.
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the whole gay thing disproves the notion that men are more loyal and have more oneitis. gay people are slutty af, and cheat constantly. i generally accept the red pill truths about women but i cant accept the "oh and btw men are little angels" part lol. bullshit.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Wrong. Being gay is an aberration, so one cannot make a sound conclusion about what normal men would do, using that population as your sample.
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thats not a very solid argument lol. whether you agree morally with it or not is besides the point. seems like you're hamstering to maintain your "women are bad but men are little angels" theory. thats the one thing i hate about redpill, while i agree that women are shitty in general, you guys think that men are "more loyal, more capable of love" etc etc. its quite hilarious. men are pretty much just as bad but in different ways.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Its not an argument-its showing a flaw in YOUR argument.
fuckedupintentions 8y ago
Basically, a woman claiming her man drove her into cheating is like a rapist claiming his victim drove him into raping. With that being said: Women will never not cheat and they will always find some way to rationalize it to themselves later. It doesn't matter if their arguments are complete BS because society will forgive them and there'll be tons of men willing to fuck them and work their ass of for them regardless of their cheating history. Their arguments are just for themselves. Deep down they know what scum whores they are but by finding shitty explanations for their behavior they can keep on doing what they do without having a bad conscience ever.
newName543456 8y ago
You can't prevent cheating. You can do everything right, and she can still run away with new, sexy Chad she just met, treating you as if you never existed.
All you can do to be sure is not making arrangements where sex with another guy is cheating. Whether that means polyamory or MGTOW (and giving up on sex altogether) is up to you.
mightythickdick 8y ago
"or MGTOW (and giving up on sex altogether)"
I don't know where the notion that going MGTOW means abstinence came from. I take it as "men going their own way from women's bullshit drama". If you want to fuck, then go fuck; if you can't play 'em, pay 'em.
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But you can reduce the likelihood that she will cheat by living a red pill lifestyle
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I dunno, I can pretty much tell if a woman is going to cheat or not. I just don't go for sluts. You can't unplug a slut. Yes, sluts look hot and are attractive but they're sluts. Just don't fall for it or give it the time of day. Bang one out with a rubber on now and again, but you're crazy to go any further than that. Let the coming onslaught of Muslims deal with their bullshit, I guess. Who cares what happens to sluts any more than who cares what happens to Gypsies and homeless people? They're not in my life. I ain't no "savior."
You can't do anything with sluts. You can't talk sense into them, you can't convert them into housewives, you can't do shit with them. Just let them go. Catch and release, at best. Sluts are just horrible, horrible women that will do whatever they can to manipulate men with their bodies. It's stupid.
All the PUA and RP theory in the world isn't going to do much to "change" a slut. And even if you thought you'd converted the ho into a housewife, HOW THE FUCK would you even measure your results? What are you going to do, hire private detectives for the rest of your life? Yeah, those guys will bang her too and not tell you. You can't change people. Cock is like a drug to sluts. How are you going to cure a cocaine addict with your private stash of cocaine? Lol.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
You have to high expectations for non-western women.
The rates of cuckholdry outside the 1st world are astronomical.
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Society isn't blaming men, the media is. The media is a business and it exists to sell a product to consumers, which are mostly women. So of course they are going to wrap their articles up in feminine imperative, then spin them in power talk. Because women understand PowerTalk and beta consumers don't.
Treat them like the trolls they are. Ignore.
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topdog82 8y ago
lol read my post closely. The numbers are likely wayyyy higher
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bluedrygrass 8y ago
They are mathematically higher. If women cheat 39% of the time, this means men cheat 61% of the times. With who? How is it possible? Do they cheat with each other?
DareToZamora 8y ago
39% of women cheat, he interviewed 400 married women and 39% admitted to cheating.
Your assumption that men cheat 61% of the time is incorrect.
RedPillHorse 8y ago
It wasn't that women make up 39% of infidelity, it was that 39% of all women cheat. Men can cheat in any amount completely unrelated to this one.
max_peenor 8y ago
80/20. Work that into your equations.
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Walt- 8y ago
How the hell this had negative votes, easily the best comment of the thread.
matthew8367 8y ago
Because the entire premise of the comment is completely wrong.
RedPillHorse 8y ago
You have the exact same janky grammar as /u/bluedrygrass, I'm like 80% sure you're the same person shilling yourself on an alt account.
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Offhisgame 8y ago
You dont think some guya get cheated on for a reason and others dont for a reason? Sure it may be selfish on their part but if you dont provide what they want they will get it elsewhere. If she isnt cumming it is your problem..
StillRedder 8y ago
To be fair, when a woman cheats on her man it IS his fault; he is at fault because his game got tired, he stopped lifting, stopped being aloof, turned into a beta faggot, or any number of SMV-lowering reasons.
We tout this here all the time!
So, this article is a double whammy of BP truths: women can't be held accountable for their actions, and the man is always at fault.
Edit: just noticed I'm a little late to the party and that others have said the similar things to me.
TheReformist94 8y ago
Women cheat emotionally,from that dance before the sex. If we include all the flirting in the office,accepting drinks,about97% of women cheat.
topdog82 8y ago
haha I didn't even notice that
Selentest 8y ago
Lol, i'm always wondering if those articles are serious or just straight up 4chan-level trolling.
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Something just clicked in my brain reading this; several notable examples of failure on my part come to my mind.
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Interesting gender difference is that women would rather seem ineffectual or weak or idiotic than malicious. They will always prefer being seen an airhead than a snake to be feared/avoided. I guess airheads were less likely to be kicked out of the tribe to die alone.
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Holy fucking shit, it's so true. They want women to not be held accountable for their actions like children, but don't you dare call them that.
Literallyoprah 8y ago
While white men are held responsible for EVEYONE ELSE's actions.
sleevet85 8y ago
In the words of the great philosopher, AIDS skrillex... YOU'RE FUCKING A WHITE.... MALE!!!"
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The universal oppressors, as viewed by cultural marxists
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Wonder what the backlash would be if the article was titled, " how women drive men to cheat "?
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Oh my god, forget about it. You couldn't get that article published.
beginner_ 8y ago
the article would be 1 sentence long: They get fat and bitchy.
no_face 8y ago
The word 'more' is missing somewhere
sleevet85 8y ago
Only varying degrees of fat bitchiness.
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[deleted] 8y ago
That might actually make slutwalk halfway interesting
CQC3 8y ago
I think the toxins released from that event happening enmasse in one location would harm the atmosphere greatly.
WarmApfelPi 8y ago
I'd consider it a terrorist attack with chemical weapons
epp56 8y ago
to preface, I do skew liberal/progressive in many areas, but I hate extremism in either direction and I don't disagree with the idea of a basic biological difference between the sexes, which is why I read TRP. so I do have plenty of friends who are on the liberal/feminist end of the spectrum as well as conservative. while many feminists are awful, I think many of the feminists I know would find the title/premise of the article problematic as well, in fact I just showed this to one of them and she responded "I hate business insider anyway, all their stuff is a fuckin joke and it doesn't surprise me they would publish crap like this" just b/c there isn't a sh*storm about something doesn't mean ppl are ok w/ it, no one is aware of everything being published ever
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I fucking hate the new use of the word 'problematic'. Uh oh. Better feel ashamed. Nah. The only person who has a problem is you. You're either correct or incorrect. Problematic is a dismissive term that assumes some authority and higher ground. SJWs and feminists are so annoying, even the moderates... maybe especially the moderates since their poison is harder to detect. It's all equally toxic though.
epp56 8y ago
so you agree, then? you think that men drive women to cheat? that's fine if so
my point here is not to say that it IS problematic, I'm only saying that most feminists would in fact consider BOTH versions problematic and therefore it's not a biased 'double standard.' even if you think there's no reason to get upset with either version, at least realize they would probably take offense with BOTH versions so it's equal opportunity offense
[deleted] 8y ago
Stop saying problematic about what people say or think. That's retarded. Freedom of speech is not "problematic". That's what makes it free speech. Censorship is what's "problematic". It's such a pussy word. Tell people they are wrong and provide facts to prove it, tell them they're stupid, tell them they're an asshole, but you don't have the authority to tell them that their speech is problematic. No one does.
epp56 8y ago
you're still missing my point. I'm not saying whether it is or isn't. I'm saying this double standard everyone is yelling about doesn't exist
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[deleted] 8y ago
Its interesting to see a flaired poster take this stance. I have seen several others advocating the opposite stance, to take responsibility for your SMV-loss/decline that drove her to cheat. Is there a dichotomy here?
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It's the cheaters fault for cheating, but a man who has been cheated may want to reduce the possibility of a repeat.
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bluedrygrass 8y ago
There's no dichotomy. The red pill isn't monolythical. Many posters, even endorsed ones, have a lot of blue on them. Unfortunately there's always some blue in any of us.
Some of us refuses to admit our moms were as slut as any other bitch.
Some of us refuses to aknowledge our bitch isn't a unicorn. Some of us refuses to aknowledge men are physically and mentally superior. Etc., etc.
So, a poster saying contraddicting things is not strange, especially considering some official red pill statements are obviously wrong, like believing all women love children. This is one of the most sacred blue pill principles, and maybe the hardest to remove. Men need to have this romantic vision of the maternal whore. While facts obviously deny that vision.
DiarrheaHelmet 8y ago
Men are not superior to women. We are also pieces of shit. We started most wars. We destroyed the environment. We enslaved people. Plenty of hard working and educated women out there to prove they have the underlying mental hardware to be brilliant as well.
My sister is an example of someone who is super super competent at her job. Rp truths definitely still come out though. She constantly hamsters her problems onto other people (as does my mother) when under stress and they both try to bully and take it out on my dad. I also see so many rp truths with her relationships. So yes, red pill truths are out there but to say men are superior to women I would argue is a very closed lens and makes too big a swing from rp observations to sweeping unrealistic generalizations. The world is a complicated and place and the human experience is even more complex. Don't praise men. They aren't worthy of it either. Be weary of them.
I think a lot of this idea forms because as western men we've grown to value things like industriousness and we see men as the leaders of that sphere. There is so much more to add to the argument in terms of intelligence and in terms of our ugly and self destructive qualities than just this little thing we use to measure superiority.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
The diarrhea infiltrated the skull apparently. If you think women wouldn't do even worse in the same positions men have been in history. There's a lot of blue media braiwashing in you still. Everything that's good in this world has been created by men. Men are the artists. The music composers. Men are the ones that created the bit of good laws we have.
Meanwhile, if men reasoned and behaved like women do, we would still be stuck in small tribes in the stone age.
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There is an Australian sex therapist, psychologist and author, Bettine Arndt who wrote a book and supporting articles about how men need sex and wives should just go ahead and give it to them, even if they do not feel like it. It was met with the usual howls and whining by the feminist set. As she was a female though they could not really take full measures against her. They were triggered and ranted on about the usual gynocentric approach to sex and life. Society and the media is a fucking joke. Always it is mens fault, even if the poor guy got cheated on. Women say they want equal rights, but they want zero responsibilities
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meanwhile, listen to women who's husbands refuse to fuck them. man do they not like the reverse. I'd probably go ahead and say to any man not getting enough sex from your woman, just start jerking off to porn, all the time, let her know you're doing it, let her find it on your pc. The amount of women over in nofap, or noporn who whine about their husbands wanting porn more than sex is prove this tactic works. they you can start making demands about how often she has sex, and what she does sexually, in order to be more exciting than porn.
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Battle-Scars 8y ago
Blasphemy you Misogynist Shitlord! 30 days in SJW jail for you.
vandaalen 8y ago
Isn't that called "college" in the USA?
PraetereoBonobos 8y ago
You joke but if they had their way 30 days wouldn't suffice.
Battle-Scars 8y ago
Thumbscrews and forced sex with Lena Dunham?
juliusstreicher 8y ago
"How Men are Driven to Suicide".
sleevet85 8y ago
I'd crack, Shawnshank style, would definitely have to crawl through a river of shit to escape clean on the other side.
angryomlette 8y ago
Hey, it is supposed to be 30 days of jail, not death sentence from the super collection of STD's.
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Askada 8y ago
Jokes aside, imagine the hellhole that place would be, if real.
sleevet85 8y ago
Ever seen that South Park, "The Death Camp of Tolerence?"
bluedrygrass 8y ago
But it would be a place full of cool prisoners
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AlerioX 8y ago
If I would have to choose between Guantanamo and Toronto, I'd choose Guantanamo.
DiarrheaHelmet 8y ago
Yeah holy fuck. I have done a solid amount of travelling. Can confirm Toronto as the second worst place for women on places I've been. So damn rude and entitled. Whatever, I got good at their game at art school where that kind of shit is maxed out . It is mostly directionless kids with no real ambitions or love for art for that matter spending all of their time climbing a social hierarchy and drifting through their twenties complaining and convincing themselves they are completely above the world and their peers. Just a breeding ground for loneliness and narcissism. Good practice for the rest of Toronto. Being a straight male I was also a minority so that was a good aspect.
Even though you can definitely get laid in Toronto, the amount of work you are putting in is significantly higher and the quality you get in women is laughably lower. Like I'm laughing writing this shit now as I think about it. My god this shit is so true. I do like the diversity of races and cultures here both for women and food. I Wouldn't want just white women all the time so that's a plus for Toronto, but shit, the quality for the work you put in goes down the tubes.
I know a guy from Scotland however who says he is doing well here. I think his foreign accent adds a sort of excitement to the boring lives of Torontonians so it probably helps. Scottish women aren't known to be the most attractive either so maybe that adds to his perspective.
Living in Holland for a year was amazing.Had some ONS's with beautiful beautiful women. Very little dancing around. When they feel your vibe, they will take you home. No gender games. Just two people having a good time and it naturally turns into two people fucking. I would even be asked often if I wanted to come over to her place without asking to come. That has only happened a few times in the past for me here, usually by older women who are slightly more over that goody shit. I always have to do the typical, "hey do you have drinks" or "I want to see that thing you're talking about" or "come over I want to show you my studio" crap.
So yeah Toronto is a terrible place to date. Bar scene is fine in terms of options and events, but you can't even smoke on a fucking patio. Total nanny state. You don't come to Toronto for fun, you go there if you need to work or visit family. Wouldn't see a point in going for anything else. Art scene is also disappointing. It's maybe okay for Canada, but in terms of other places I've been it is way way down on the bottom end. Still love it though for some strange reason. I guess home is home.
123456789012345a 8y ago
Yes, people cheat. Both men and women cheat, there are women who cheat and blame it on her husband/boyfriend, and there are men who cheat who blame it on their wife/girlfriend. There are shitty humans beings and non-shitty human beings. This post doesn't mean shit, other than to stroke the e-peen of men who feel wronged by wimmin.
[deleted] 8y ago
I think it was Scott Adams that came up with a "rule" about cheating.
If the ability to cheat is there
If the likelihood of being caught is low
If there's a benefit to it.
Then it's irrational to suggest that cheating is not occouring. It was in relation to business and laws but the same thing applies.
[deleted] 8y ago
That's a terrible title, but the statistics if they really are 39% then that actually isn't so bad. However, if like how OP suggested - that this is under reported, then it could paint a much worse picture. Ultimately, I know well over 39% of relationships that frigid, if not openly toxic where both partners hace no emotional connection, are not in a relationship they take seriously, or otherwise hate each other.
There's much more to this subject than the percentage of infidelity. If you don't have children and don't get married - I hardly see how it would matter. To the rest of you, sorry for having to dodge bullets a daily basis.
[deleted] 8y ago
From what I understand it only represents women who
A) Physically cheat, or in other words fucked the alpha. He sounds to be purposefully excluding some segment of his data here.
B) Have admitted to "physically cheating". There's probably another large portion that never admitted.
That said, I can't find the research, and these women are the ones who go to couples therapy. So I can't really get a read on how accurate this information is, or how useful it would be even if it was accurate.
epp56 8y ago
where's your family from? my family is from Shanghai and one of my female cousins is 32 and the last one still married out of her group of college friends b/c all their husbands cheated on them w/ younger women. then he cheated on her and wanted to leave her for the other woman (AND take their kid with him - on what basis?), but his family who loved his wife wouldn't let him. she took him back b/c she realized her prospects were better with him than divorced :-/ do you defend men like him? do you think she is just being a good wife? genuinely wondering. all theory and TRP-ing aside, I just think he's a POS and I feel bad for her
bowie747 8y ago
A point that isn't often raised here is cheating men. Men and women both cheat because they can. Men have traditionally been the main offenders, but these days women can get away with murder and they know it. So they're cheating in record numbers now.
I think the 80/20 rule is valid here. The top 20% of men will always be likely to cheat because they can. The bottom 80% of men will largely be faithful, and probably don't have many cheating prospects anyway. For a woman the story is a little different. More women can cheat because they have greater sexual prospects at any given time. So if we assume that 80% of women are fuckable, then 80% of them can cheat.
Traditionally women haven't cheated as much as men, but now all shaming constructs are obliterated and a divorce will always end in her favour. This, coupled with the fact that women have many more sexual options means that women now significantly out-cheat men.
Also most men are honorable, where women are not.
ItsTheHomeWrecker 8y ago
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epp56 8y ago
I don't necessarily disagree, but do we have numbers on respective cheating besides this clickbaity Business Insider headline? I don't trust BI ever, really
bowie747 8y ago
I don't have numbers, but would love to see some.
[deleted] 8y ago
Were all these men cheating with single women or all fucking same bitch? I think not. The number of cheating events is likely roughly equal between genders. Think about it like handshakes where it has to be a man shaking a woman's hand, and you'll see it.
So the number of cheating events are equal when pooled across genders. However, as you noted, women have an easier time and all go after the top guys. So, switching to percentages, I'd wager a higher percentage of women have cheated than men.
bowie747 8y ago
There's no reason to believe this is like a handshake scenario, at all. People can and do fuck single people when they're married/LTR.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
So, single women fucking married men don't count? Here we go again, females are never responsible
[deleted] 8y ago
Sure, assume a simple model and then see how far you'd have to push it to replicate your claim.
My thought was that for the percentages to be largely different then men would have to skew toward "shaking hands" with single women to a relatively large degree.
The average cheating guy doesn't. The rich fat cat with a mistress pining for him likely can. Most cheating men are fucking some married woman from their work or social circle.
Also, to be cheating, you don't have to be married, just exclusive.
Where are all these cheating men finding all these unattached women (read: butt ugly, if anything cheating men might have to be fucking the same slampigs)?
The reason why men were thought or counted as cheaters more in the past is because more were willing to admit to it and also the idea of a cheater was some handsome or rich guy with mistresses and women clamoring for them (which is a rare case).
bowie747 8y ago
Plenty of young single women find rich, older (possibly married or LTR) men very attractive.
[deleted] 8y ago
Yeah sure, doesn't change anything. My point is that this effect is not enough to support your claim. There simply aren't enough rich guys to shift your numbers and each rich guy would have to be fucking a shit ton of single women.
[deleted] 8y ago
Can anyone find the research on this?
Luckyluke23 8y ago
it's funny at one point you talk about guys sitting and listen to a women's problems.
I went a level deeper and thought. " what emotions would be running in her mind if I just sat there and listen to her problems?"
the on answer i could come up with is " bad Emotions".
that's why, Next time I'm going to try bring out good emotions instead of the bad emotions.
thansk man
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piccolo3nj 8y ago
I've been to China. Women cheat there just as much as in the West.
ironrape12 8y ago
Been treating everyone like ants since senior year of high school and my life has only gotten better. Thank you red pill.
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ErenYeager91 8y ago
You are right, everything comes from a family. Family values are one thing we shouldn't let be destroyed. But image how things are going to be when all these kids raising by single moms grow up.
[deleted] 8y ago
Our society is fucked. Hopefully I can find a wholesome community when I start a family.
Limekill 8y ago
If a woman cheats, its the mans fault.
If a man cheats, its NEVER the womans fault. (but usually it is).
fuckedupintentions 8y ago
People cheat. They cheat for their own fun, there's no such thing as someone giving his/her partner a reason to cheat (unless you're a swinger). People (and especially women) like to blame everything on everybody else but themselves. I got cheated on and luckily I wasn't too attached at that moment so I immediately dumped her ass. There's neither any justification nor any excuse for cheating. You cheat, you're out. Simple as that.
mojo_juju 8y ago
Not that I doubt OP (but I do) but can I get a second opinion here from people from these communities? Do you agree or disagree with OP on this?
Limekill 8y ago
I know in Africa women who cheat tend to get beaten, sometimes to death, by their husbands; similar to middle east (and India) with honor killings. And because a lot of the marriages are more tribal (i.e. everyone knows each other, grew up with them, the families are from the same village, etc) than in the West (knew each other 1 year and got married when girl fell pregnant) then a women who was found to be cheating would be hated by the grooms family and looked down upon by the rest of the tribe.
Vietnamese is still pretty culturally conservative to a large degree (well compared to thai I've heard), but Im unsure about cheating there.
Yakatonker 8y ago
Honestly social and economic liberty is far better then living under the CCP, or other facsimile of a feudalist system. Family is nice but the elder structures controlled the manifest destiny of men. As in Each generation was made subservient to the family, the city and the state. The monopolies of old didn't give men freedom or liberty, just made them slaves and allowed the tyranny of the few and the mob of the weak to harvest their surplus powers of productivity. Such a thing degenerated and slowed the progression of economic systems, a system which is slowly progressing away from an economic environment of scarcity, and adjoining control of those corruptible forces in society.
As well when those women come to North America or any other western nation they become exactly as their western counter parts. In fact in Japan as a relative anomaly the salary man is cheated on in the same fevor as his western counter part despite the prevalence of conservative outlooks on women there. Once China starts giving the people a greater degree of social and economic liberty the delusion of an RP China will liquefy as it has in every advanced economy.
Areu4realm8 8y ago
and 90% of men cheat. next