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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Dual-Mating Strategy

Woman gives a brutal redpill about stepdads. This is another warning for men who are considering bailing out single moms.
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kevin32

Posted 1y ago in Dual-Mating Strategy - Permalink - Locked - 18.8K Views



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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied

it wasn't maturity that changed you it was reality that caught up with you

Related reading: The Maturity Myth by @moorekom.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

Dammit... I wrote a lengthy and brilliant comment expounding on that and it disappeared.

Screw it... today is leg day and the gym beckons.

Edit: I haven't done heavy legs for three weeks because of travel (some business and some vacay with the wife). I wasn't sure I'd be able to meet my 1RM DL, but I did. I do that once a week so I don't lose it.. I also had a cutie come up and talk to me out of the blue. We're both regulars but we've never spoken before, and I'm probably older than her parents. Now I'm not vain enough to think she was making a play, but it's intriguing to see how women react around men who trip their triggers at the lizard level. A while later another regular made eye contact and her face just totally lit up... like a Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center. I've never spoken to her, either, so it was unexpected. Later she sat down to use the abductor right next to me even though it didn't look like she was doing legs today. She's probably 20 years younger than me. Maybe it was just a coincidence... or maybe I was firehosing pheromones because of my big lifts.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago

I was going to plug it. Thank you.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

Beat you to it, fucker!

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

God damn he sent her to the fucking dark world.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

she's going to have to get used to living there.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Looks like the dude at the bottom redpilled some 304s, too

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

Dropping red pills on 304s is about as useful as pouring champagne on rocks.

The rocks won't care, either.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

Touché

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

with age comes wisdom

She knew all along that the bad boy was not husband material, but she had a baby with him anyway, she also knew that good guys are suitable husband material, but she only sees them as cleanup and an ATM once their CMV (Chad Market Value) drops, classic AF/BB.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Way back when TRP was active, there was a thread on the pitfalls and to stay far away from single mothers. One guy posted how wonderful his life is with a single mother. She is traditional, cooks and cleans, regular sex, she is beautiful, so what if she was a single mother?

I caught a lot of hate from him when I asked: would she have married you, dated you or even have given you the time of day if she wasnt a single mother and had options? You were NOT her first choice. You were the guy that saver her from a hard, lonely life. If she wasnt a single mother, you wouldnt have made it on her list.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

There's little to be gained by passing out red pills to bloopies, especially when they're heavily emotionally invested in the correctness of their worldview.

It's not like you're going to convince a guy you don't know that the hot chick who cooks his meals, cleans his house, and drains his balls is just prostituting herself to secure provisioning because she can't be with the guy she really wants.

Who knows? Maybe a single mother is the most he qualifies for and she was his best option. Let's fact it: the guy obviously isn't a Chad. Getting attention (and sex!) from an attractive woman is not something he had much experience with.

Not my cup of tea, but some guys would rather take the lay-up than do the hard work required to have a chance of getting a better woman. A lot of guys have never been told that there even is an option.

The real test will come when she has the opportunity to cheat or to get the courts to allow her to ditch him while keeping his money. Remember: men don't redpill men... women do.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Agree with all of this.

Like let’s be real, maybe this was actually a great deal for him, because his other immediate options were land whales and irritating boss babes. But he wasn’t the alpha option. And yes, once she’s financially set, will she give the same energy?

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Those old sayings are true, that's why they are old sayings. "Blood is thicker than water." Now I don't care what propaganda they try to fed us, the simple matter is that the kid is NOT YOUR BLOOD. Bio-mechanics is God. DNA is ingrained in out very primordial instinct. The OP is for all the guys out there who think of wifing up a single mother. You were warned.

I remember one of the saddest stories of this poor guy that wifed up a single mother of a new born and 2 year old girls. He really loved those girls like they were his own flesh and blood. Besides feeding, clothing, and putting a roof over their heads; he went into excruciating detail of how he was trying to be worlds greatest Dad.

He was there for every major milestone a child has. Their first tooth, first day of school, taught them how to ride a bike, helped them with their homework. He was there when they were tired, or scared. He was in the audience cheering them on at plays and sports. He drove them to their practices and paid money for all their extracurricular activities. He was their Santa that stayed up late to put candy in their socks. got them gifts and a tree to put them under. He was the one that made sure they had a happy birthday with cake, ice cream and presents. He was with them all night when they were sick. He was the one that took them to the doctors visits. He took his family on awesome vacations that made memories that last for a lifetime.

Meanwhile, Real Chad Dad managed to blow into town a few times a year to visit. Usually on the major holidays or sometimes on their birthdays. He was mostly M.I.A.

Now the girls are 14 and 16. They both put a Facebook montage for Father's Day composed of them and Real Chad Dad using pics of his once a year visits. Along with that are comments of him being the Worlds Greatest Dad and how there is a special connection between a father and a daughter and how much they loved him

NOT ONE FUCKING MENTION of the man that took care of them all their lives. I could feel his tears through my computer screen. He was completely heartbroken and destroyed. He wasted all his love and resources on the product of Chad's seed and they still loved their Real Chad Dad more.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

There was a reddit post that got really famous about 10 years ago by a guy who had a similar experience. The gist of it was that he gave his step-daughter everything when she was growing up and was always there for her, then he got a red pill the size of a watermelon shoved up his backside at the girl's wedding rehearsal. Not only did the girl betray him, but the mom was in on it.

Fortunately for him, he wasn't legally married to the mother, and the story had a happy ending... for him, anyway (not so much for the woman, the daughter, the groom, or the biodad).

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I remember that post! He was suppose to just shut up and PAY for everything with Zero participation. He really thought he was a part of that family until it came time for the wedding. He found out the hard way how the mother and daughter really thought of him. After all he did, they never really loved him, he was a wallet to them; a Beta Bux with an emphasis on the BUX part. Luckily this was the Red Pill baseball bat upside his head. He pulled the funds, canceled reservations, withdrew all his financial support and dumped them all.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I see that some word has been censored and replaced with 'dudes'. We all know what the word was, right?

It's clear that we are listening in on a convo between the lowest tier of society here. The ghetto dwellers.

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DextroShade 1y ago

This is why baby mommas are trash and unfit for anything but being a cum dumpster.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

careful where you dump your cum dude!!!

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sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Hmm

Recognizing the obvious, and changing your taste in man isn't wisdom. It's change of circumstances.

Your inability to skip your current circumstances doesn't make you attractive.

Wisdom is a multifacted thing, and it does not entitle you to our interest. If the only thing you got going for you is your "wisdom", after being creamp d then you are not interesting. You are supposed to realize your failures. That's not special.

Your attempt to resell your realization of failure as "wisdom" if anything, is insulting. Your baggages are unnecessary. As such. regrettably, I will go with a younger fresher woman, even if she's unwise in your terms.

My sentiment to you now is the same as your sentiment to the kind, nice, genuine men has so far been before getting the child.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

These modern women remind me of a child who refuses to listen to their parent when they tell them that the stove is hot, and that they shouldn’t put their hand on it. Then when they burn their hand and have to go to the hospital, they feel smarter than the other kids because they know how bad it hurts to put their hand on the stove.

Or, you could’ve listened to people before and never had to learn the hard way.

Rather than hoping a decent man accepts you with child in tow, you could’ve simply come to him in the beginning, childless. Your odds of success would’ve been far better.

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IceNineWithLime 1y ago
  1. It's not a phase.

  2. Guy in the last post nailed it.
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nicknack 1y ago

Sometimes I get tired of all the single mom content on here because I don’t even consider them an option whatsoever, it’s basically like dating a grandmother, a man or a tranny. Totally not on my radar.

However, I forget just how many men actually do this. And for them, this content can save their life

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago

Be the change you want to see. Post content about the other types.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

They get so beaten down by the unfair dating landscape, that they’re led to believe that anything is better than nothing. But if you’re a dude who takes decent care of yourself and has a decent job, you’re worlds better than most of these women that reject you. They can’t even support themselves without help from others, who cares what they have to say?

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Truth. Average men are on average, not wanted by average women, until those average women are post wall and looking for a bailout. By the the time an average man gets to 30, he is so downtrodden and gaslit by woman kind that he starts to think that he has to take what he can get, so he looks at single mums and thinks, well, its not my first choice BUT....

Message to all the younger guys: You're going to find it hard to get laid until about 30, if you are average. Try not to take this to heart. Focus on you, your goals, hobbies, career, education, connections with other men and your network. The bountiful years are coming. Trust me. They are coming.

In your 30s, you can pose as a kind, thoughtful guy that is looking to settle down. Then take all the free samples you can get. There will be hundreds on offer.

But never, ever consider a single mum. Just don't do it.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

@hornetsfalcons12: "who cares what they have to say?"

Even single mothers have SMV that translates into RMV if they play the game right or adjust their expectations to reality, but what makes this board so amusing are the profiles from the ones that don't. Sometimes they engage in "copium" that she now "prefers" these guys, but this is certainly better (for them) and even the guy who buys into that if he wants to believe that she really likes him versus "settling".

It's interesting how dual mating strategy has changed. A Boomer psychologist who wrote a dating book told me, as if she invented the idea of dual mating, the ideal was serial monogamy for women and she advised women to sleep with the hot guys in college, then land a beta bucks and spawn off children for him, then divorce rape him while she's still reasonably pretty, then with child-support go out and party in her 40's and then, this was her plan, to marry a silver fox for retirement. I checked up on her 2 decades later and she's personally single.

I don't have anything against women who are honest about settling. After all, the smart thing for women to do is consciously decide to pick a less physically attractive mate as reliable father material than breed for bad-boys and hope for a bailout later. All this talk of "this is what's natural" assumes that natural is best, but it's also natural for people to overeat, be lazy, irresponsible and so on. Women shame men who aren't strong and providers as "boys" for not making an effort to improve, but our society teaches women that it's ok for them to effectively be mentally children for their entire lives.

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MelkorHimself Mod 1y ago

"With age comes wisdom."

Wisdom is learning from the mistakes of others and not letting deadbeats impregnate you in the first place.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

She already knew that good guys make for good husbands, she just wants the hot bad boys cos that is her preference.

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