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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 7mo ago Stickied
Oh look, a Keep-a-Man baby gambit FAILED YET AGAIN.
Women really played themselves by loosening all the restrictions on premartial sex and divorce. Sure they thought it would allow them to try to perpetually trade up, and it does, but the inseparable flip side of that coin is it also means Chad/Pookie/Ray-Ray/Kyle from county lockup can perpetually trade them in or discard them.
Dumb sluts.
And before any dude even thinks about playing Cap'n Save a Hoe, he needs to realize that she has already demonstrated a taste for the kind of guy that will nail and bail - so if you ain't that, you have gotten a preview of the kind of man she's going to cheat on you with once she secures your resources.
Caveat emptor.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7mo ago
Why get the milk for free when you can just buy the whole cow?? Answer me THAT, gentlemen!
Maturin_nj 7mo ago
The takeaway from this is that They have no shame when it comes to getting what they want. The guy that they foolzone for 7 years, she will ask that fool to marry her it it suits her best interests. And she'll tell the guy that she secretly loved him but was afraid of ruining the friendship. And the fool will buy it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
If one of my fellow mods would xpost this to that other platform, I'd appreciate it.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 7mo ago
Done. I'm locking the comments there, however; should I unlock them?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Your call. I'm OK either way.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Quite a find there, they are rarely so blatantly honest.
First off, I congratulate her on not aborting her baby but seeking a beta instead. At 21 with no obvious tattoos and only one child, she is actually a better bet than most of the ladies we see pass this way. There is a lot of mileage left in this one and she only brings one cuckoo to your nest.
You would just have to get past a mega ton of settling (that might wear off on her side once she got ensconced and into your wallet) and being effectively a massive cuck.
Still to be fair she is a much better buy than the others I have seen recently. To me the massive red flag is the absence of a smile. If she can't even smile for you when she wants a total bailout, you might be lucky to ever get a smile form her no matter what you do for her. This is a desperate woman who will do anything.
There is always a price point at which the beta strategy will work and the price point is dynamic. I would love to see how this one play out. One imagines white knights will offer but will she be desperate enough or will her parents bail her out?
AbusiveFather1 7mo ago
Jesus, the sorry state of America
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
It's like going to your local shops to buy milk and your best option is the one that is only 1 day past the used by date while all the other ones are at least 3 days over the used by date.
Time to shop elsewhere.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 7mo ago
Well, she should have kids from someone who is actually willing to be a father. Or use contraceptives. But hey, nothing says romance like playing russian roulette with the future of an unsuspecting kid.
Yet.
chunky 7mo ago
Best to not think of it as abortion. Think of it as "giving God full custody".
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RPU_mike 7mo ago
Would you be smiling if you were a 21 year old pregnant single woman with no place to live?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7mo ago
If I knew that you'd be there to rescue me, I'd be smiling ear to ear. I always secretly loved you back in high school when I never looked at you.
Now take me out. I feel like getting one of those chilis where the bowl is made out of bread.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Yep, is she willing to take a guy who’d she would vomit on under normal circumstances? If so, she could absolutely find someone, if not, she will have no chance. If she is perhaps going to be homeless, you’d think she’d be smart enough to take what she could get and play housewife, but she might be the type to go in trying to run things.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
And play housewife?
Not on your life. She is going to play divorcewife.
She wants a disgusting beta male with a house. She can then divorce rape him (because he touched her child). She'll get the house and she can go back to the CC, and pay for the baby sitter with alimony.
She's a hermit crab.
BB beware.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 7mo ago
Oh, excellent portmanteau. Adding that one to my lexicon.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
You're welcome - it just came to me. I haven't heard it anywhere before, so I guess its 'new'.
The hermit crab is probably the wrong analogy. A hermit crab is unable to create its own shell, so it hunts around to find a discarded one to make it its own. She's more like a cuckoo chick. The cuckoo mother lays her egg in the nest of a stranger bird. The cuckoo chick is then treated as the chick of the stranger. Eventually the cuckoo chick gets larger and larger, often tossing the other chicks out of the nest to their death, so it can have all the food. Eventually the chick is larger than the surrogate mother. The mother may die in an attempt to keep the cuckoo chick well fed.
This woman is like that. She wants to move in, and pretty soon, BB will be moving out, with nothing but a suitcase and a life time of alimony payments. The nest will be hers, and she can revert to the CC.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
I think this is a fundamental shift in the Overton window. Enough single moms and red pill videos have gone viral that this woman probably went online and saw them and realized her best shot is to be upfront about her real intentions and treat it like the transaction that it is. Sex in exchange for room and board and fathering.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Yup. I mean I can’t imagine how much more clear it’s laid out. “I’m desperate for security for myself and my child. Who’s desperate enough for sex to agree to this?”
As far as I’m concerned, it’s a value proposition. If a dude thinks this is better than hitting the gym, well, fair enough.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
I think it's just a return to normal. A long time ago a single mom would shack up with an undesirable man with cash. Usually the fat landlord or banker.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Yes, I think you are right about a shift in what is acceptable. Red pill has actually helped people to start talking about the truth. In the late 20th century it would be a story about being disappointed in love, left pregnant and looking for someone to mend her heart.
A smile still would not have hurt her chances, she didn't have to be that honest about her bringing no joy to your house.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
haha
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 7mo ago
Sadly even being that upfront is still them being very selectively dishonest. They gloss right over how there's no enforcement mechanism to make them uphold their end of that transaction once they have a man on the hook for the rest, which DOES have enforcement mechanisms aplenty.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
I was recently studying this. It turns out that my wife and I are not legally married in my state. Since we've lived together for more than a year without getting a marriage license, we're not even a domestic partnership or legal union. We're just room mates with kids (legally speaking).
So if this woman were to move in and leech off a guy without providing sex, he could just kick her out.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Sex in exchange???
The poor deluded BB that takes on this skank is not going to get any sex. What he will get is divorce rape.
Then he will lose the house.
She is looking for housing, not sex.
She said so clearly in her profile.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Well clearly she puts out. How else would she get pregnant?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
She puts out to unsuitable men (Tyrone), not to suitable men (beta bucks), you dum dum.
Tyrone for the sperm, BB for the housing.
Are you new to this wayhmen thing? Still learning?
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 7mo ago
She has standards, and the BB doesn't meet them. She is willing to marry, but no touching.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
She eagerly puts out for Chad/Tyrone while Billy Beta at best, might get some starfish action in the hopes that will lock him down.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Yeah she should make that clear up front. Maybe she'll be able to get a guy with no testosterone.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
It's a start, when they start posting ads like "quiet, submissive, loyal housekeeper and sex slave for life" I'll start taking the shift seriously. Until then it's just posing or desperation.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7mo ago
What, you want a "pick me" girl that you can force into your Ozzie and Harriet fantasy? HAH! Ridiculous. Now get to work. She needs you to earn money to extensively remodel the kitchen so she can refuse to cook anything in it.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Well, I wasn't sure how long they were going to double down for but it looks like the single moms are the first break in the line of defense.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
The tradwife movement is interesting. While still a bunch of attention-seeking bundles of red flags that usually are not that traditional OR wives, there's a subconscious awareness there.
Many younger women are looking at the world too, deciding they don't want to compete in a man's world after all, that they want a husband and children.
I predict the shift will happen slowly, then suddenly. Women are like fish. When they shift course, they do so as a school - together, and there is very little introspection about the 180-degree turn, or remembrance of what came before. "We were always like this, teehee!"
I'll raise a toast to the day this site is obsolete, because wayward women are either executed or so ostracized for misbehavior that they all fall in lock step with other beautiful/loyal/submissive housewives.
Don't be too excited for that day, fellas, it will first of all require lots of blood to get there, probably a new government, and it will mean men are responsible again - to raise virtuous daughters and keep our women in line. With our power will come great accountability and the need for good men, or else feminism will take root again.
Sorry for the rant, been reading a lot of Vox lately and it's rubbing off on me (in a good way I hope).
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Until men stop being emasculated by an educational system that view boys as defective girls.
Until the laws concerning marriage and children are truly equitable.
Until young women avoid increasing their body counts and damaging their bodies and minds.
Until society enforces the idea that men are the head of their families again like before first wave feminism began.
Men should not indulge in marriage in the West.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
I heartily agree - but there are two types of marriage. State and Religious. I have zero faith in the former, but hold on to some in the latter. Why? Because I've seen it work well, even today. Women can be taught and are malleable when put into the right groups.
My wife doesn't obey me because she is told to by the State - she obeys me because she strongly believes that is her duty to God. I hope you can see the difference. I was stupid back then and did get the State contract, but if it was easy I'd gladly divorce her in that sense, because I place no value in that horrible third-party contract. Doesn't do anything for me.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
The problem is that in the West, the State can still get involved even if you never signed a marriage licence, if she wants to divorce you from your religious marriage, she can go to the Family Court, prove she is married to you, and before you know it, the State is very much involved in the divorce cos there are huge financial incentives for the courts and divorce lawyers to make the divorce their business.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
This is absolutely a problem in some states, but not all. Common law marriage is less than half of states IIRC.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 7mo ago
In the US, common law marriage exists in about a dozen states. Among those states, the laws that specify the circumstances that create a common law marriage vary according to state law.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
I think it will just become a polarization with hoes and housewives at opposite ends. Two worlds existing simultaneously. Like it always was before feminism. Hoes just won't have this entitled attitude because they know what they are.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Once a woman becomes a single mother, she stops trying to date the men she wants and starts trying to date the men she needs.
Oh she'll still fuck the men she wants, but she has to secure the resources.
Never date single moms
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
They're great for a bit of fun. A little mutual-satisfaction-of-urges.
But they are generally not relationship material by any stretch.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
My ONLY exception is
If the kids are functioning adults, I'll do monogamy with one (provided she hits the Five Fs - Fit, feminine, friendly, fun, and fucking)
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Whoa. I never said anything about monogamy!
But if I'm ever single again, I might make a similar exception.
chunky 7mo ago
That can backfire, too. Rayray Junior can suddenly lose his job and need to move in with Mom and you. In your house. For years. Even grown, her kids will always come first.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
No.
If the whelp tried, I'd just tell it no. If the mother doesn't like it, she's free to date a man that will allow it.
No-Stress-Cat 7mo ago
In other words, she's 8 1/2 months pregnant, is about to burst any time now, and needs a beta male provider with an extra room ASAP.
My question is, where is she living now?
So many questions...
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 7mo ago
And none of the answers are good if you are a guy who has their shit together and are looking for something long term and worth your time and effort.
And these women will haplessly wail and moan and fail yet again to take agency for their own outcomes.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7mo ago
Hahaha, I wonder what this chick is like at a drive-thru?
Speaker: (crackle) ZZZ- Welcome to BachelorBarn, can I get your order? (pop)
Her: Yeah, I'd like to order a tall single man with good job prospects. With gym-body. And he must love kids.
Speaker: (crackle) Sorry, we're all out of gym-bodies. Regular or fatty? (pop)
Her: Oh... ... regular sounds ok. ... not my favorite, but ... yeah, okay...
Speaker: (buzz) How tall you want? (squeak)
Her: 6 feet. ... are you TOTALLY sure you don't have any gym-bodies left?
Speaker: (crackle) Sorry, we're totally out. (crack) For 50 cents extra, you can get 6 foot-4. You want that? (snap)
Her: Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker: (crackle) Car or motorcycle? (squeal)
Her: Car, please. I had plenty of motorcycles last week. Uhm, And a side of respect? But just a little bit, I don't want it too sweet or anything. (GAG) I just hate those.
Speaker: (crack) What kind of intelligence do you want? (fizz)
Her: Doesn't matter, really. Whatever.
Speaker: (snap) Ok, regular. And what skin you want? (pop)
Her: Light skin, extra crispy.
Speaker: (pop) That'll be $12.98, drive around.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 7mo ago
Heh, shades of Solomon II there.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 7mo ago
You know... I was reminded of that item about halfway through. Then I was like "...I've seen this gag somewhere before, huh? Ah, nonetheless..."
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
The only way to deal with women like this is to pose as a beta bucks that wants to settle down with a dumb hoe that got chucked off the CC. You more or less tell her 'Yes, I'm very interested, but I am going to need a sample'
She wants housing. BB wants pussy.
BB should fuck her and then ghost.
If I were in the market, I would reply to her by saying
"I am very interested in finding a woman exactly like you - but I have a lot of interest because I own a house outright, am solvent, tall, ripped and good looking. I am currently interviewing potential candidates and have a slot available this Tuesday evening. If you want to be considered, you will have to come over, clean the house, cook a meal and then I will fuck you. You will then leave.
I will notify the best candidate by email when all candidates have been interviewed.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 7mo ago
There was a time - not that long ago - when a girl like her would be sent to “visit her aunt” for a few months, and come back afterwards… alone.
Nobody in their right mind would allow such an irresponsible person to raise a child, so the baby would either be adopted out or raised by a responsible relative. It’s a bad situation all around, but it gives the kid a fighting chance, minimizes the shame on the family name, and allows the girl a chance at some sort of normal life.
chunky 7mo ago
I went for a time to a state University, which had a large teaching hospital on campus. The history of one of the older dorms was exactly that, it was where wayward pregnant women stayed, while they came to term and delivered in the hospital. The building had been converted to student housing in the 60s.
chunky 7mo ago
Give her a false identity, rail her till a bit before she's due, then vanish. Rent a Vrbo or something, that's just a bit too small for her to move in, and promise to find something bigger.
Of course, if you had a farm so remote there's no cell service, you could take her there and put her to work. And the kid, too, once it's old enough. That's real trad values!
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 7mo ago
Tapeworm looking for a host.