Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
This was posted on Facebook on 9/4/24.. Most of the women thought it was a compliment. The majority of men thought it was an insult. Shows you how the female mind thinks.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I keep coming back to read this paragraph. I get such a laugh from it.
She: I don't want to have wild unlimited orgasms with you, but you can marry me.
She: I can't understand why he is upset? We had sex last month. WTF?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
"Wow, you're totally not the kind of guy I'd normally have lots of orgasms with... ...why are you looking at me like that? IT'S A COMPLIMENT!!"
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
The key point is that women lack empathy and don’t understand why men seek out relationships. Women seek out relationships because even being in a bad relationship is more emotionally satisfying and socially prestigious than being single. Men seek out relationships for sex and children.
So for her, if her man told her that she was someone to marry, not someone to FWB, she would feel special. Because for her, our commitment is valuable. But we want sex. Telling us that other men get more access than us is an insult
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Well, plenty of men would like more than just that, but tend to get taught in some of the most ruthless ways possible that they cannot ever rely on getting it or keeping it.
So they learn to do without which really reduces the leverage women have for obtaining relationships since it reduces their offerings to strictly biological.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 4mo ago
By "Understand it differently" she means "understand it for what it is".
A lot of women think it's flattering to be told you're a provider and not good for sex.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
Yeah, I'm not sure how she thought he would understand it. "I've had lots of other dicks before, but you're more than just a dick. You're a great bill-payer too! In fact, I don't even think I want much dick from now on."
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
You: A lot of women think it's flattering to be told you're a provider and not good for sex.
Funny if a man said she was not good for sex, bur good for making dinner and cleaning, after she gets home.
maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
This is the equivalent of the tape skipping at the Milli Vanilli concert that led to their downfall (Girl you know it's---girl you know it's---girl you know it's).
In my super nice-guy days growing up, I had female friends I was attracted to and obviously they weren't attracted to me and they would hit me with the "If we're still single in our 30s, we should totally get married!" line. Didn't realize I was not only put in the friendzone but labeled as "husband material." I'm so glad these young men have the resources today to recognize modern women-ese and are able to save themselves.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
It shows how bad things in our society has become that when a modern woman call you "husband material", it feels way more like an insult than if she calls you a "fuckboy".
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Quote from land of the loser. His needs are, as always, immaterial. A Good Man is there to provide. It's what he should want to do, unquestioningly, no matter how little there is in the deal for him. It's what he should scramble to do, and if he doesn't want to, then he's not a Good Man. He's not supposed to be acting in rational self-interest, he's supposed to be acting in her interest, like the unthinking, self-sacrificing, non-human workhorse he should be.
smashedrossio 4mo ago
What was her plan? There is NO way she thought that through
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Drunk as she was, it was a powerplay - she was aiming to trigger gratitude / make him feel more lucky to be with her - by revealing he lacks some of the ingredients she wants, she tried to put him in the position of making up for it somehow.
thekagaccount 4mo ago
Why are women such inefficient parasites? I feel like I could do a much better job deceiving a beta bux target (being a registered beta myself). I'll leave the superior analysis to the mods, but I must say:
Upon hearing her divulge her relational preferences, he knew exactly what that meant for him. He calculated his value in her feminine dual mating strategy and concluded that he wasn't appraised in accordance with his self-conception--in an instant! But really she did all the work for him I guess, "he is not someone who I would hookup or be a fwb with but marry." is comically blatant.
The fact that this guy felt uncomfortable is great, and proof that what the mods and people like them are doing is useful. This happened because at some point he came across the ideas discussed here, or concepts adjacent to such. Women are naked now, and their exposure will only become more complete as time moves forth. We are getting as close as possible to a zero-cuck world. Mods and prolific posters: physically pat yourself on the back right now, thank you.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
She was trying to shift the relationship dynamics further in her favor by letting him know he's not fully up to spec, only she misjudged how much of a bitch he was.
Probably she's been bitching him like this the whole time, but this is the first moment he realized that's what it was - before he likely acquiesced to these shit tests by accident and she interpreted that willing submission, and that he was ready for this level of powerplay.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
"he is not someone who I would hookup or be a fwb with but marry." is comically blatant.
She: I don't find you attractive to fuck as with a Chad or FWB, but as a husband, you are good enough. I can't see why he is upset?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
This is just priceless: woman accidently tells the truth, guy realises that he is a beta bux target, hits eject. And she is 'panicking right now'.
Here's the thing chaps - women always tell on themselves. They can't keep their mouths shut. All you have to do is listen. You don't need any fancy jedi mind games, no sleuthing is required. They can't keep help it. Dealing with women is very much like dealing with 6 year old kids.
Not only has she revealed that she views him as a beta bux material, she has also revealed that she is massive slut. How else would she know what she likes for hook up times and fwb times?
Honestly, the only correct answer a guy can have to a his gf telling him that she doesn't really see him as hook up / ONS material is to look her dead in the eye and say
"That's ok - to be honest I don't really see you as GF material"
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
So fucking true.
My biggest mistake was not listening to what she was revealing to me.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I've made that mistake as well. To my big regret and huge cost.
The golden rule: listen to them when they tell you who they are.
All you need to use is your ears. They can't wait to tell you exactly what's going on.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
"That's ok - to be honest I don't really see you as WIFE material, but just GF material"
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
You're missing the point - why would you even GF a girl like that? Strictly plate only, at most.
For me, I wouldn't even plate a woman like that.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I would plate while looking for better.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
No, you told the truth and saved your former boyfriend from almost certain misery. I'd call that a huge win.
I repeat myself often, but this is why marrying a non-virgin (especially in the State sense) is absolutely foolish. The only way the dual mating strategy can be defeated is when a husband is BOTH AF and BB at the same time. And the only way that can happen is an inability to compare. And the only way THAT can happen is never having been with another man.
The self-reported statistical rate of happiness for pre-marriage virgins in marriage is actually really high. There's a reason why it drops off a cliff with even one pre-marital partner.
I believe the only way it can work is if there is no possibility or desire for a wife to put her husband in one of two boxes. Dual mating strategy can only occur when a woman has too much freedom and > 1 lifetime partners.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Simple patch would be that the State only recognizes the first marriage. So women only get one state sanctioned BB chance and that's it.
And men can only be taken to the cleaners once.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
True
Not necessarily. But that does make it much more likely.
AF and BB aren't necessarily a strict dichotomy, and men can make the changes from one to the other and maintain both simultaneously. It's not easy, but it's possible.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I grant that if all other men did not exist, the possibility goes up dramatically :)
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
I happen to enjoy existing, thank you!
Well, most of the time anyway
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
Translated:
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 4mo ago
They can't help themselves
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
you don't turn me on like many other men i fucked in the past. BTW My past is my past. I need to see your paycheck to make sure you are husband material.
hhhhdmt 4mo ago
thank goodness he found out and ran. He needs to go for a younger woman. Why would a 28 year old guy be with a 28 year old woman? Of course she is using him. He needs a 20-21 year old.
JudgeSmales 4mo ago
"We were drinking and one thing led to another ..."
I'm glad this guy didn't rationalize her statement by saying, "That was just the booze talking."
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4mo ago
in Vino Veritas
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
"last night I tried to compliment my girlfriend by telling her she's not someone I would whisk away for a romantic weekend to Paris, or buy a Tiffany necklace for. But she is the one I would ask to fix me supper and keep the house clean for the next 30-40 years. Why is she so upset?!"
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
This guy dodged a massive bullet, and that bullet is dead bedroom!
There are men that women will hook up with and there are men that women will marry - not the same thing.
The men that women would marry but not hook up with are the men that end up in a dead bedroom.
Don't fall for it guys!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
This guy dodged a massive bullet, and that bullet is dead bedroom!
There are men that women will hook up with and there are men that women will marry - not the same thing.
The men that women would marry but not hook up with are the men that end up in a dead bedroom.
Don't fall for it guys!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
I don't think she necessarily would have given him a dead bedroom, but what annoys him, and rightly so, is when he realizes how personal it affects him similar to the phrase "it's only business".
Such women treat "nice guys" with contempt when they're young thinking when they settle down, they can just proclaim innocence and say: "ALL other other women aren't ME so you can't hold me accountable for OTHER women ignoring you". She just outed herself that she is WITH all the women.
Back about 40 years ago, it was upsetting to me that men were largely lone wolves on our own while the women hunted us in packs. They shamed each other mercilessly if they broke The Sisterhood pact while many men even allowed women to get away with one-sided strategy as "chivalry".
Another factor that I think annoys him is that she's admitting that marriageable men are workhorses she withholds sex from to get goodies while she puts out for "hot" men. She admits that she regards sex as a tool to extract resources from men such as him. A chaste woman simply doesn't sleep around to begin with.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I have been thinking of this for a long time, so here is my delayed comment to this.
As a man of science (or as an autistic man, whatever you prefer) - "all other women aren't me" is a skin level comment that does not quite cut it for me.
Given the circumstances that she is trying to settle down with me, what is the probability that she would have been rejected me earlier ?
This answer almost never generates confidence.
Asking this question has previously branded me autistic/incel/too-much-thinking/beta etc in the RP circles, but that is my Baysian thought process. Among women, this question elicits the response that :"If you can't accept the answer, why ask" - but dont think I need to answer that
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
100% he dodged a dead bedroom. Did you not listen to what she was saying?
She is clearly telling him that he is not the kind of guy that she wants to have sex with. She is saying that he is the kind of guy that she wants to marry.
95% of women are like this. They have different roles for different men. Chads are for same night sex. Beta bux are for marrying, then resource extraction, then divorce raping. Dead bedroom is a foregone conclusion.
Women marry men that they wouldn't dream of shagging. Men shag women they wouldn't dream of marrying.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I started to date a girl. A couple of days later she says this to me,"I like you are lot, but if Allen Jackson comes around well that is just how it goes." She told me up front that if she found a man she thought was better, she would dump me. So why would I want to start a relationship with a woman, who in advance, told me that she would dump me for another man.
I stopped seeing her. I gave a reason that it would not work out. I didn't want to say it was what she said to me, for I want her to say it to the next man in her life. Maybe she will make the same mistake twice. No man deserves a woman like that.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
This is why I am a proponent that one of the first things men should learn when dealing with women is "Demonstrate, not Explicate." Or in other words, they should toss most overt/proactive forms of communication with women into the trash. Closure and crap like that are just ways for them to learn how to be more efficiently traitorous parasites.
Or to use a nerdy quote:
"'Do it?' Dan, I'm not a Republic Serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
In answer to your rhetorical question, I'm reminded of a video I saw recently of a woman griping that men put in 100 percent of effort but it drops off by 30 percent as time goes by.
The relationship paradigm is that men and women have different advantages at different periods of their lives and in a relationship. In the beginning, women usually have higher leverage unless the guy is hot or she's unattractive (and most unattractive women would rather drop out than compete like a man). Then after sex the man doesn't get much out of the relationship the longer it continues hence why marriage was (partially) invented in the first place to protect aging women from abandonment.
So in regards to this woman, in answer to your question she's worthy of being in a plate spin rotation or FWB which many of them wind up placing themselves in.
It used to be that it was men who were considered to want casual sexual relationships undermining more emotionally intimate ones, but modern dating largely make sincere relationships difficult from the beginning for men. For our own safety, we need to begin with a sexual objective for at least a few months, even a year, and only then consider an emotional relationship when it suits us.
Ironically, her statement would have helped you keep frame during this whole process. When you started to feel too BP and let her get the upper hand, this remark would come back to haunt you (in a good way).
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4mo ago
This has been perhaps the hardest lesson for me to learn. I still have trouble applying it sometimes. I'm not sure whether it's leftover BP conditioning I haven't fully overcome or simply how my brain is wired. Maybe both.
Casual sex doesn't do it for me. Never has. If the only connection I have with a woman is physical attraction I'd genuinely rather just masturbate. It'll be over quicker and I won't have to hang out for half an hour or more afterward to avoid my penis taking offense at something I said (or didn't say) and launching a crusade to destroy my life because I don't want to fuck it again.
Hell, even if I could just treat it like a trip to the hardware store, I don't want to. I want intimacy, damn it. Sex is so much better when it's part o' the formula.
It took me entirely too long to realize most women are abject cowards. They'd rather live forever in limbo than actually commit to a great deal when it's offered to 'em because they think they're retaining control that way.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Or god forbid, actually make a permanent choice and actually accept the consequences. No, they'd rather piddlefart around for two plus decades thinking they can perpetually trade up and then wonder why they ended up alone.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4mo ago
The Husband Store: it ain't just a funny joke.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
You dodged a bullet there buddy. Doesn't matter if she 'was only joking' or just shit testing you. That kind of disrespect is an instant no.
And good for you for not telling her why.
Justanaverageguy 4mo ago
I had a girl claim she wanted to marry me, she mentioned it SEVERAL times…..even went so far as to send me pics of the ring she wanted and everything. Problem is we weren’t dating and never had sex, you’d think she’d lead with that but nope.lol my answer was “why in the world would I marry someone I’ve never had sex with?” Her answer was “there’s plenty of time for that”. Yeah, no, I’m not stupid, talk about dead bedroom….it would be right off the bat.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago Stickied
Sending a man a pic of a wedding ring for him to buy is like a man sending a girl dick pics thinking they should turn her on. :-)
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
He should have texted her a picture of a bedroom just filled with dead people
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Goddamn I love this forum - that one made me laugh out loud.
You are absolutely correct, but naturally the female bias tends towards behavior that would get a guy punched out or in jail if he tried the same thing.
I often wonder if we have reached peak female entitlement, and I think we are close - the economy rolling over will certainly fuck up a lot of revenue streams the current crop of "independent" women rely on.
JudgeSmales 4mo ago
When income streams like OnlyFaps and others go tits-up (business wise), there will be a lot of women with expensive condos/homes they suddenly they can no longer afford. Most of these women are probably spending as if the money will be rolling in forever.
Pic889 4mo ago
Another facet is that they think they can just vote more "government money" into their wallets. Which is also coming to an end because the US and most EU countries are drowning in debt and can't print any more money without completely devaluing the currency.
Don't get me wrong, men do this too, but I've noticed that women tend to think of the government as the rich daddy they wish the had more than men do.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4mo ago
There's also the fact of plummeting labor force participation on the part of men (young men in particular). Given we're generally the group doing the work which generates the surplus taxation necessary to fund the welfare programs upon which women generally depend, that whole house o' cards is starting to look mighty shaky.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
And men are more likely to be in occupations that produce goods that they can directly consume or barter - how many women are only classified as farmers or ranchers because their husbands are, for example?
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
True, and also as an important component are the guys that enable her entitled behavior.
Not that I wish every man to be broke, but under economic pressure spending on whores takes a hit.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4mo ago
There are no rich former whores. Even Mia Khalifa went back to the business - she needs the money, and she has no other talent. Saving and investing? What is that? That's men talk, and the only men I'm interested in are Chads and Louis Vuitton.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I have a lifelong friend who is a MD. One day we go to a bar to have a few drinks. We meet 2 girls. We talk for a few minutes. I go to take a piss. I came back and my friends says,"Did you tell them I was a doctor?" I said Yes. One of the girls wanted him to meet her parents and she had made plans for the wedding. We left ASAP.