I will try to make this as short and concise as possible.
Basically, I’ve been with my LTR for a year now. I vetted her and this is my first girlfriend. I have good confidence and wasn’t looking for a relationship. I approached her in person at where she worked day time food place.
I have been working out consistently still relatively skinny but I’m working on it. In addition I haven’t been perfect either I’ve had small bouts of frame loss but I don’t think it was anything too major for her to notice. Other than that she’s green flags doesn’t drink or smoke, low social media presence, only been in the states 6 years. Very feminine.
Here’s where it gets ugly so I decided to commit to her because I could see myself long term with this woman. She said I love you first. Anyway problem #1 I went through her personal wallet once and it had love notes and other bullshit with a name on it.
Confronted her about it and she said it was for an old friend and that one of them was a joke and another one was the first love poem she got and she didn’t even know it was in there.
Problem #2 I pick her up and this has happened 2-3 times she has a letter on her wrist with a heart encircling it. The letter says K which was also in her wallet. This is probably where I lost frame but I just calmly said your going home. Started driving home and the fuckin waterworks started she said it’s from her grandpa that passed away and blah blah.
I’m an idiot so I let it slide again.
This has happened before and one time before we were about to have sex. By the way that has died down too. But she claims it’s for her grandpa. Another time I went through her wallet found those same notes she threw it away for me.
Now fast forward another month later she gets phone calls from a person named K on her phone. Literally just the letter K similar to her wrist. He called three times, this drove me insane as I don’t want to commit to a girl that is doing this shit. I asked her about it she said it was a friend who is going through a lot. Asked to go through her phone and she said she wouldn’t give it because he’s told her things that are private and it would be like if I told her something and she told a friend. She said privacy is important to her when friends tell her secrets.
What a load of fucking bullshit. But I want to believe her so bad and this is the problem. So she didn’t give me her phone. She said she’ll stop and I told her she crossed a boundary.
Few other footnotes, I use condoms regularly but one time it broke and it got her pregnant resulting in a miscarriage she’s going through now. But before that the sex was going down and now we haven’t had sex in a month.
Doesn’t seem to have that genuine desire she used to have and she always says she’s too tired or she’s in a rush to get home. She’s making rules for me and women make rules for betas. I want to go through her phone secretly but she’s so protective of it and the fact she didn’t let me see it and the fact she said that what this K person said is important and can’t be shared with me. Like what the hell we’re supposed to be Man and Wife how can there be secrets between us who the fuck is this guy. I don’t know what the fuck to do. Call me a bitch call me an idiot. I just want some slap me in the face hard advice. Things were so good in the beginning and now my gut feeling says I can’t trust her. Every fiber in my body wants to leave her but I don’t want to at the same time because what if I’m wrong. What if she’s telling the truth. I want things back how they were as beta as that sounds. I truly love this girl. She apologized, says she loves me. But it’s all bullshit to me.
I don’t know I’m lost. Any advice would be greatly appreciated sorry for the wall of text.
Some more information. She had a boyfriend for 2 years but she broke up with him because he cheated on her. But he was abusive to her like would hit her get mad she talked to other men and stuff. So she didn’t break up with him over abuse but over cheating which is interesting to me.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Don't go mad. This is the wrong approach.
Correct approach is this: she isn't worthy of commitment so don't do it.
Ok. You need an explanation.
Valid:
That's it.
Tired.... not in the mood..... not feeling it..... "I don't feel sexy"....... all these are euphemisms for "I am not attracted to you".
You're not having sex therefore you are not in a relationship. You are the provider of security.
right
100% she's cheating.
You are married???
Here's the problem.
She's doing this shit and you are letting her.
You are providing emotional security to a woman who is cheating on you and is fucking someone else.
Sorry. It sucks.
What you do now is act according to the circumstances: you're not in a relationship with this woman, so stop emotionally providing for her. Cut her off. Leave. Next.
Of course you can't trust her. Jesus fucking christ, she has someone else writing on her with his initial. Why the fuck are you still in this "relationship" ?
What if you're right.
Trustworthy people do not behave like this. Secret notes, secret text messages, lies about her grandfather.
If nothing else: find out her grandfather's names (first and last, both grandparents).
If she has a close friend who is writing on her, you can reasonably ask for details about this, and should be furnished with proof of what's going on. Honest people will always happily provide proof that you have nothing to worry about. Sure there are secrets, but anyone who is not cheating will provide reassurances and be happy to provide proof.
You can have things back as they were WITH ANOTHER WOMAN.
She isn't fucking you. It's over.
Apologised for what? What form does this "love" take....... secret letters and writing and phonecalls from someone else? That's not love, that's manipulation
You know what to do.
How do you know this is what happened?
This is often grossly exaggerated.
Women ALWAYS claim that they were abused in their last relationship.
"He hit me" is often "I hit him and he hit back but I miss out the first part".
"He emotionally abused me" is often "I was a bitch and he told me to stop it, he was so controlling"..... or...... "I wanted to fuck other men and he said no, he's a controlling abusive asshole".
When you hear what girls say about your relationship with them later, it really opens your eyes about how much they lie about the past relationships that they chose.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Whether you realise it or not, you are in a lot of pain right now, so your decision making is not optimal.
Guys fall in love with women, and they idealise women. That is what young men do. Some call it oneitis. its a natural biological urge, and its hard to resist.
The only think that can help is the passage of time. That, and developing solid frame. Solid frame comes from having self respect. This is something that can be learned and developed.
I empathise with you, because I have been there myself, more times than I care to remember. A few things that you have to remember;
"But she clearly loves me - why would she go out of her way to destroy our relationship? Makes no sense?? Wtf?"
Women make no sense whatsoever.
You're young. You will see this play our a few times in your life. The solution is to set the ground rules as early as possible. You have to be the leader, and you have to drive the bus. Otherwise, this shit will happen over and over on an endless loop.
EDIT: If I were you, I would not waste time on wondering whether she has some other dude or not. That almost doesn't matter. THere are things that you can never really know. What you do know for sure is this;
How she made you feel.
You know that she made you feel jealous and uncomfortable in your own relationship. All of that was by her own choice. She could have chosen to make you feel secure, like you were the king of the relationship, but she chose not to, because it gave her more power and she enjoyed the drama.
That would be enough for me to make up my mind.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
What a shit show. She is fucking someone on the side and it's clear as day. Get the fuck out before you ruin your self image completely.
Permacultist 1y ago
Bro, you are being played.
Man up, get out of there ASAP.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Next her. Your intuition exists for a reason even if you don't know the answers. Often times your intuition IS the answer.
There are a lot of times i made a guess of why a woman did or didn't do something with me and later, after a lot of digging and wasted time (against what everyone else was telling me) ended up being that exact thing I initially suspected.
Your intuition usually is the correct answer, especially for repeat occurrences
TheUnintelligentx 1y ago
I understand this is really what needed to be said. Just a personal question. She’s been texting me I love you and been more responsive. Obviously it’s to compensate. I don’t want to reply with her same energy.
Should I play along until I see her this weekend or break up with her now like demand to see her in person now?
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
how old are you?
sounds like you need to get more experience with plating girls. Oh, and this LTR, should be demoted to a plate, or just move on from her.
The no sex in a month, may likely be due to the miscarriage,etc, either physical issues or mental.
if she's protective of her phone, she should "NEVER" be considered for a LTR.
TheUnintelligentx 1y ago
I’m 22. Yes I think I do need more experience I just don’t like plating to be honest. It’s cool to have one bad bitch to fuck with for fun but for me it just gets old I want a family in the future. I understand thank you I agree with the phone part.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
you may misunderstand what plating can be used for.
sure, a lot of guys don't want a LTR and just want girls on the side, more the better,etc.
Others, myself included, I wasn't interested in quantity, I wanted quality.
Don't rush to get into LTR's, Plate girls, learn about them, it takes time to see a persons habits, persona,etc. During this time you are viewing her and seeing if she's worthy of a LTR. You also freely talk about your "expectations" example I can see her phone and social media , and see if she's got issues with them and can follow them.
You shouldn't be getting into a LTR, for at least a few months, I'd say. I mean, i've seen girls who are whacked, fake a personality on a few dates, but they can't do it for long.
Take your time with them, if they won't wait, well, there's always more girls and you have a long way to go, only 22, enjoy the freedom and work on yourself, don't be in a rush for a LTR.
good luck
jaytionaryy 1y ago
Bro not only is she fucking K she probably got the whole alphabet on her phone. She spreading them legs A-Z
TheUnintelligentx 1y ago
Haha not gonna lie this one killed me
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coolsocks00 1 1y ago
Not only is she not wife material (lol), she is a lying, cheating bitch. OP here still not getting the message, asking how to "play it". Block/ignore is the way.