Thought this may be a good reminder for all.
Real life situation. Friends daughter is mid 20's , with a live in BF. He's a "nice guy". He's late 20's. She's pretty, at least 2+ SMV above him, but she's high maintenance for sure and she knows it. He's a total 4-5 in every way, doesn't work out at all, a bit overweight/flabby. She's a 7.
They've been together a few years, all is good, he's a "nice guy". And the sex is on her schedule from what I've heard. Yes guys, Girls talk about everything.
She's from an affluent family. He's not, he makes a bit more than her, but it's not that much and his prospects for increasing that aren't good for sure. she's gonna inherit money, he's not.
She's realized , she likes money, likes to travel. May want kids and wants to be a SAHM.
Strangely, all of a sudden. She is not satisfied with their relationship.
This guy is gonna be wrecked when she dumps him, he's done everything he could for her. She's the best looking girl he's ever had by far and knows probably will ever get. But, she's a major headache, very high maintenance and he deals with it as the trade off. I wouldn't last a weekend with this girl.
He was just a holdover, he was good for her in this time in her life. Now she's looking for more and it's time to move on.
Now, I like to be fair. Guys do the same thing. I've done this with FWB, FB's who, at that time in my life, that worked well for me. Then I moved on, or almost always they pushed for more and I had to move on from them.
Whats my point?
It's just your turn and don't forget about it.
Stay in shape, lift, work on your life goals. Work on making/earning enough money to live the lifestyle you want.
If you want a LTR or kids,etc. Don't push above your target.
What's my target? IMHO, it depends.
A girl who's no more than my SMV, even if I have money. Why? Because I want her to realize I'm the best she could get. I want her devotion, I want her sexual attraction to me and want her and her hypergamy to be satisfied. Her hamster to respond, you did good girl. Now go empty his balls.
Sure, if you have money, we all know you can get a girl that's +2 your SMV, trophy wife.
I know quite a few couples in this deal. I can't see even one of them, where there's a true sexual attraction from the women. They are in it for the money and country club lifestyle.
So, recognize what you want and don't be surprised with the outcome.
A trophy wife with no sex or once in awhile dead fish sex, a girl on your level who wants to and enjoys emptying your balls or a girl who's just using you for a place holder.
Good luck to all
Einsamer 3mo ago
Good points.
But how about that: let's say you are rich and can afford a trophy wife (and make some beautiful kids with her, since she's got good genes right?) AND also afford side girls with your money. You probably have to accept that your wife has something going with the pool boy, but what if you really just want to get some kids with someone like her out of it?
I'm not that rich, but sounds like a possibly valid strategy.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
If you are rich enough to afford a trophy wife - don't get one. They will ruin you.
"Afford side girls with your money" - you mean whores?
you paint a very bleak life - a rich man with a trophy wife who you pay for but she just fucks the pool boy, and then fucking whores on the side, for money.
What kind of life is that? It's the life of a host that is being sucked dry by parasites.
Whatsnext 3mo ago
Id rather have a 6 that is obsessed with me and has no wealth from a foreign country that barely speaks my language than a 10 who is filthy rich who has no respect or love for me and im constantly on eggshells with
Einsamer 3mo ago
Yeah me too. But not everyone thinks alike.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3mo ago
For me, that's not what I want. That's a recipe for disaster.
If I have money, and I'm cheating etc, divorce and the money. Oh, what about a prenup? Throw that in the shitter when you have kids guys.
Her cheating on me? Same thing, I divorce her but she still gets my money and my kids.
We all have different wants and needs.
for me, I want a girl I can count on, who enjoys keeping my balls empty.
Is it a guarantee it will work out? Hell no. But the only thing in life that is, is death in the end.
First-light 3mo ago
Remember this -do not invest in women. They can betray you with a turn of the hamster wheel. She is not yours, its your turn boy. So, though it saddens me to the core to say this -drive her like a rental. Don't even fill the tank right up. You can't even decide how long the lease is.
It goes against the humanity in me but experience has taught me that you have to invest in yourself and women will come for you. They will then moan at you that you are mean but they came because you are solid and quality. Invest in them and odds on you will be left with a handful of ash, if you are lucky you will just be moaned at that they don't have enough from you.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
Post stuff like this in TheRedPill Forum, it's neither asking for advice nor a question
Durek_The_Bald 3mo ago
But but but how am I supposed to maintain frame when guys are laughing at me behind my back because my GF isn't an 8/10?
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3mo ago
Exactly Durek, that shit never bothered me.
there's always a prettier girl. I'll take the one who's sane, and enjoys taking care of my needs.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
I agree with most of your post, but you are dead wrong about a couple of things.
You write
You can get a girl +5 on your SMV with zero money. I have seen it done many many times. Good friend of mine is 57, is a nurse, makes no money, and has a hot live in LTR that is 31. He's ok looking, not fat, works out.
You do not need money to get chicks - I don't know where this idea comes from. Maybe andrew tate? the internet gurus? have a look around IRL - the brokies are smashing like there is no tomorrow.
Women fuck tingles, they marry money (and then don't fuck the husband). The want the pool guy for fucks, and the banker to pay for the house, pool and rover. But the banker gets no sex. If he's lucky, he gets to watch his hot wife getting railed in the pool house, while he jerks off.
Money doesn't get you chicks.
the other thing you are wrong about is this;
That would have been a good idea before the internet. Now that all women are officially 11s, this will never happen. Women now all believe that they are special and different, that they are 11 out of 10 (even if fat, or especially if fat) and that they deserve way hotter and better men that you.
if you have ever been in the presence of male celebrities, the one thing that will absolutely shock you is how the women fans behave. Totally average and below average women seem to really actually believe that if they could just say hello to super chad millionaire celeb, he would drop what he was going, get rid of his LTR, and fall at his knees to worship this below average chubby slob woman. They actually believe it. The fans you see screaming at hollywood hunks think that they are on the same level - once you see it, you will see a fascinating glimpse into the mind of the average woman. They think that they are all princesses. They are brought up to think that way. Nobody ever says no to them.
I have been with all kinds of women - from very hot to quite average. I'm fairly chaddly - 6"3, well built, educated, wealthy, good looking. I've got good game (can always get laid with a min of effort, zero dating), have great convo skills etc. I'm not being big headed, but I know where I stand on the scale.
And here's the thing - I have never ever met a woman that didn't think she was above me. They all think that they are settling. or compromising. Every single women is waiting for ultra prince and they all believe that they deserve ultra prince.
Humility, realism, and humbleness is not part of the female mindset.
Slay kween! Yas!
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3mo ago
You can get girls by being good looking. You can get girls by being a fun guy. You can also definitely get girls by having money and spending money on them. Do you have to have money to get them? No, but it definitely checks one of their normal requirements, especially for LTR. For fun, most don't care much about money, they want hot and fun.
Not sure where you are at Lone Ranger. I'm in the US, sure most girls today have a very high/inflated view of themselves. But I definitely meet women who come out and say that, you are above me, you could get any girl you want, much younger girl,etc. Some girls live in la la land, some don't. Like I said, I stick with girls on my SMV level or lower, I don't even look at girls who I consider higher SMV than me. I don't look at girls my height or above for example, they are invisible. Unless they approach me of course. I have had your experience, but it's not ALL girls, is it a majority? I don't even think it was a majority. Most of the women were most worried that I was good looking enough to be a player. They didn't want to get pumped and dumped.
Now, I am old, like 60, so the girls I'm talking about are 40's and above. Even way back in my day, the younger the girl, the more she thought she was a princess. 18-21 yo pretty girls think they have the world by the balls. In fact they do in a way, you have to admit they have legions of thirsty guys falling over themselves. I'm sure today it's much worse with the social media.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
you hit the right chord with social media...and I would add into that OLD (which has become a form of SM).
Women that have grown up with SM addictions seem to think that they are all 11s, even when fat and ugly. The internet tells them they are beautiful, and that can't be wrong.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 3mo ago
well, the cat population is exploding.....
I know older women who've stated , they are "done" with guys. What that means is they have a few quick flings a year.
Have to admit, the girls I know, their standards are too high, IMO.
But, then I think about it.
If I'm over 40, Fat , out of shape, not attractive, not mr. personality, not loaded with money. What would I do as a guy, regarding girls?
Would I try to find a fat, older harpy, that probably wants what remains of my money?
I think I'd travel to Thailand a few times per year, TBH. Rather than deal with that scenario.
It makes you think, so, I can't blame the girls in that situation. You can't force attraction, it's not negotiable (unless you got $$$) and that's only fake attraction.
These "below" avg girls, don't want to put any effort into (below avg) guys, who they aren't even attracted to.