(Edit add: This is after I’ve already got them back to my room/theirs, or isolated to a private area… Hook up has happened, the ‘presumption’ was that sex will be following)
Hello, fellow RP bros.
Here is a problem I have faced on the many occasions and it rather annoys me.
We all know that you follow her actions, not her words… However, when they start pulling out the ‘no… I can’t be doing this…’ (hamstering that she ain’t a slut) etc-etc-etc statements - despite her hand still resting on my cock - I am immediately done as I do not wish to ‘force’ myself upon them.
I don’t care if it’s their hamster defence mode, or being playful, or etc… As soon as I hear the dreaded ‘no’, I stop immediately, thank them for their time and leave (or get them to go).
So my qs is… Any of you have some tactics, or methods that works for you, so that you auto bypass their hamster defence and they don’t event think about uttering the word ‘no’?
Cheers!
whytehorse2021 3mo ago
In addition to the anti-slut-defense posts I would add that it takes about 45 min for a woman to go from zero to "fuck me". I usually grab my wife's ass while she's cooking dinner to start the ball rolling so I can fuck her later. 18 years of experience speaking here. It's just their physiology/psychology.
Problematic_Browser 1 3mo ago
Fuck no
Unless their words and their actions match, I don't proceed. I'm not gonna risk a rape allegation for a bang. The risk/reward there is heavily skewed.
I'll even break norms by telling them exactly why I'm not fucking them before I put them in the Uber.
Musicgoon78 1 3mo ago
Last minute resistance is going to happen with some women. Just handle their shit tests.
You're going to have to simply get used to this part of the game and be ok with hearing no.
The other big possibility is you aren't leading and sexualizing the conversation. This gives them a distinct lack of tingles, which could also be the case.
Pyth0ns 3mo ago
“ You're going to have to simply get used to this part of the game and be ok with hearing no.”
But does ‘no’ not just put you off completely?
Like first-light said below… I too don’t feel the risk is worth it for potential distruction.
Musicgoon78 1 3mo ago
In the kink world this is CNC (consensual non consent). It's the pretending to say no when it really isn't a no. Some of my girls like being bratty just to get a stern correction or spankings. That get them soaking wet for me to show them power and dominance.
So this falls under "don't listen to her words, look at her actions".
I'm hoping you're calibrated enough to read the non-verbal signs.
When she says no, make eye contact. Don't pussy out. Look at her face. It will tell you everything. A real no she will physically pull away. She won't make eye contact back. When she's looking strait at you, she's observing a reaction. This is your chance to act. She says no, you give a smirk, she looks you in the eyes and smirks back. It's on.
"Oh are you being bratty? You might earn some spankings depending on my mood".
That should either give her the tingles or she fucks off right there.
The girls want to play a game. You play your game and you steer the interaction if she wants to play at all.
Have fun with this shit. Guys that apologize, defend or run away are the ones that get me too'd.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 3mo ago
Read up on ASD (anti-slut defense) and LMR (last-minute resistance).
That retarded "no means no!" sloganeering is mostly bullshit, and it's only applicable when they reject you for a date (anything other than a yes or an offer to reschedule should be taken as a no, and next).
If her hand is already on your dick, that's one of those situations where "no" usually means "not yet". She's already gone that far, which means she wants it. She's either just not primed enough (more foreplay), or needs to know her reputation is safe, etc.
Pyth0ns 3mo ago
Yeh. Might just be my age that I don’t care for/have the ‘patience’ anymore to keep going forth to break that ‘defence’ barrier.
Also like First-light mentioned in a comment below… I too don’t want to ‘risk’ it when a ‘no’ has been mentioned…
First-light 3mo ago
In the climate today I think its wisest not to test if no actually means yes. It probably usually does mean yes if she has her hand on your cock but just don't. Pussy is not worth the destruction of your reputation as a human being.
If her hand is on your cock she likes you enough. You meet the bar for acceptability. Her hand might however be on your cock as an apology for her not wanting to take your cock today. The best solution is to back off and give it more time. More kissing and cuddling might change it, another date or two probably will. It might just be she needs assurance that her reputation will be intact tomorrow.
Most women start out in life genuinely not wanting to be sluts but in a world where there are no rules except "she must want it" they find it very hard to navigate liking men, fancying men, enjoying their attentions and not being sluts. Many a good girl lapsed because she wasn't cold hearted enough to say no to something she and he both wanted but which she knew was not the best thing that early in a relationship, which she knew would cheapen her and she knew she was actually damaging herself doing but it was easier to do it than not to.. Girls get into situations where they get started and its harder to back out than carry on, especially when its only what a big part of them wants to do. Women are weak willed. Good girls sometimes over the years turn into regretful sluts who would like to be firmer.
Personally I find the pushy PUA distasteful. It may just need a little patience. If it doesn't come easy, let it go.
Pyth0ns 3mo ago
“ In the climate today I think its wisest not to test if no actually means yes. It probably usually does mean yes if she has her hand on your cock but just don't. Pussy is not worth the destruction of your reputation as a human being.”
Basicallly my exact thought process… Even if she is ‘playing’, it still triggers something within me and I’m pretty much done with trying to go further.