Been browsing the side bar and there's not much out there. There is something important about how she's created and shaped by the man to a degree.
I know we discuss high value men a lot, what is a high value women?
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Been browsing the side bar and there's not much out there. There is something important about how she's created and shaped by the man to a degree.
I know we discuss high value men a lot, what is a high value women?
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Intrepid_Place53900 1 3mo ago
Old guy here
A high value woman will be slightly different for each guy.
but don't make it too complicated.
1) She's Attractive , to you
2) She's low maintenance. What's that mean?
She's stable, doesn't have big ups and downs. Not on medication, doesn't have trauma from the past, doesn't have a lot of baggage that you have to deal with in any way. Doesn't try to get you to change your ways.
3) She "gets it". Guys want , peace, a full belly and empty balls. She knows this without any explanation or reminders
4) She Doesn't have debt, can support herself.
5) she has healthy habits, food/diet/exercise/hobbies
That's my definition
sean_karaya 3mo ago
Neither has any objective meaning.
I came across the the word high value man first in the videos of the late Kevin Samuels. In my understanding he coined the term as a marketing strategy to differentiate a successful man in a constructive (which in itself can be subjective in meaning) field from a random Tyrone and Chad, as the word alpha male can be and indeed used for both of them by argumentative woman.
Now this actually can evoke a sense of meaning to women, as women tend to wait at the finish line. A high value man is a man who has crossed the finish line. For any woman, there will be a stage of life, where such a man will be very fulfilling.
Equally, the high value woman also does not have any objective meaning.
Women tend to use this to mean a woman who also has material assets, and they tend to use it to rebrand a woman who has lost or is losing her physical prime. The implication here is as if the material assets can compensate for her decaying physical prime and body count.
However I have not come across (yes, this is my anecdotal testament) any man that wants to wait at the finish line and pick a highly ran thru woman. So the definition women use for a high value woman is not useful. The exception are the BP clowns who believe that they should be attracted to those things, yet can't articulate why (which is OK. there is no need to articulate it. That is just how they are)
On the other hand, tradcons/jordan peterson and the ilk/a significant portion of the RP circle tends to call a woman, who is willing to attach herself with a man at the end of the finish line, also a "high value woman" as long as she is average or better attractive, and has lower than average body count and does some chores things like cooking and cleaning in exchange of the same man handing her over a readimade life. This is quite literally appointing such a woman at the deputy CEO post of the life the man himself has built.
Many a man indeed accept such definition, and act accordingly (i.e. pursue such women)
Many a man (myself included) also does not consider such to be particularly valuable- and does not find fulfillment in pursuing such women.
Edit: There is a tendency, that if the demand exceeds the supply then the product is high value. Therefore, a woman who is wanted by many men tend to see herself as high value. This however is applicable on an average in a statistical sense. Not in an individual sense. So indeed she might be high value to many men, but she can't use that to manipulate an individual man. The individual man does not owe her conformity to statistics. Indeed this often leads the woman resorting to SIGN language against the man for not falling in line, for being an outlier.
Also, some woman think that be demanding more from a man will make them 'high value', because the man who gets her is willing to pay for all the additional things. That makes her high price. Not high value. There is a difference.
mattyanon Admin 3mo ago
AWALT.
Don't fall into the trap of using red pill theory for blue pill ends.
If you're looking for a high value woman without knowing what that means, you're not going to find it.
NeoSpartan 3mo ago
Low maintenance, high attractiveness and pleasant to be around.
That's pretty much it.
Musicgoon78 1 3mo ago
That's a highly subjective question. So the question I have for you is what qualities do you look for in a long term partner?
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 3mo ago
No such thing.
No such thing.
1) They're both what Rian Stone calls "container words". The concept is that when someone is using a container word, they take a bunch of their own personal thoughts, feelings, hangups, beliefs, etc and shove them into a container labeled (in this case) "high value man". They then throw that container at your feet and expect you to know what's inside.
2) ever notice how every grifting retard on YouTube who uses the phrase "high value man", whenever they're pressed to define it, they always:
2a) if female: define it as someone who best serves her
2b) if male: define it as some dude who meets an arbitrary set of traits that just happens to be similar to the speaker. I spoof on this in one of my favorite shitposts.
It's a crock of shit.
Become the kind of man you want to be, and develop the skills that you value.
Make decisions based on what you want, and be ready to accept the consequences of those decisions, ie own your shit.
Don't allow women in your life who don't enhance your life in some way.
Hugo_The_Great 3mo ago
Obviously, there is no such thing as a universally, objective high value man or woman in terms of characteristics or traits. Because that depends on individual preferences and cultural context. But we can define it in the sense that it's someone who has many desirable traits and few undesirable ones. Hence, they are highly sought after by the opposite sex.
MrSupreme 3mo ago
What do you think a high value woman is. Just a bunch of traits that make her desirable and she can definitely lose those traits.
whytehorse2021 3mo ago
A woman's value is determined by the men she can attract and keep. Key word there is "keep". I would say someone like Trump's wife is high value because she got a rich guy to wife her up and have several children and stay married.
That being said, every guy will value something different in a woman he wants to keep. Most guys will say they value looks and they want a woman without a bad history. Then it boils down to deal-breakers like: tats, piercings, personality, etc.
DragonNuts 3mo ago
For something to be high value, it needs to have demand that far exceeds the supply.
This means, a HVM would be jacked, handsome, rich, and near perfect alpha/beta (tingles/security). That demand exceeds supply and it's every woman's fantasy to have that, so they can finally be "understood and loved correctly."
HVF would simply be Great tits, great face, great personality, loyal, knowledgeable in nesting, home care and child care.
Being HVM is hard to obtain and maintain. The latter is easier to obtain but does not maintain.
That's my take on that.