I don't want to fuck 30 year old women. The world is different than it was a few years ago. It seems like young women are never at bars and it isn't a good place to meet them. Is it only possible to meet 18-24 year olds on Tinder or Insta now? I don't know what's going on, I spent the last five years working on some important shit to me thinking that I would just have a higher smv at 30 and life would be easier but it seems like I just have a lower smv from getting older and I don't know how to meet "young ladies" anymore besides dating apps. I'm not doing dating apps right now because there is no point in a town of 10k. The women aren't on there. I feel like guys in their early twenties and shit are very defensive against older men going after younger women and don't want to let you into their social circles so please tell me, what the fuck am I supposed to do? I don't feel comfortable approaching hot girls in public because I can't tell the diference between a 21 year old and a 16 year old. Anybody care to explain? Do I absolutely have to go digital now? What are you doing? Life was easier when I was a 21 year old loser! It feels like I was sold a lie by the red pill. How do I fix this? I don't know how to be 30. Everyone in my small town my age either settled down and got married or got into drugs, I cut off all my old friends because they were going nowhere and toxic people.I'm afraid I'll move to a city and still be isolated. This fucking sucks bros.
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noidea 7mo ago
10k town is a tough one and then also get younger girls.
The getting a lower SMV from getting older is not true I think, there are girls who like older guys, quite a few even. And, I know it doesnt feel like it, but 30 is an attractive age. Wear it proud. You have to be kinda fit tho. You could try to use your age to your advantage. Guys in beginning of ther 20s are fucking reatrded you are probably not, shouldnt be too hard to show that.
I wouldnt even try to get in the circle of the 20s somethings. You could try day game. Everyone goes to the store. Still 10k is hard, how much chances to approach do you even get. You could also try passive game like getting a reputation in the town for something. Simplest would be sick car maybe? Become an antisocial pyschpath who gets in fights constantly?
I have one friend who stayed in the hometown and became very social at some point like chit chatting with everyone, store clerk, cashier, contrators, everyone...He has like 2k people in facebook now. That too could lead to success.
Post of you figured out a way, its an intersting "problem" I think.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Stop overthinking this shit and live your life dude.
I'm early 30s and played a fuck ton of catch up and I've fucked (since my 30s) anywhere from 23-38 yo
Honestly, the 38 yo was pretty fuckin fun and good in bed. She did better than a lot of the young ones. We split for unrelated reasons.
My favorite lays of all time were 31, 31, and 28. The 38 was close but not my top 3.
I'm currently fucking a 23 yo and she isn't that great but a plate is a plate and it's enjoyable enough to maintain when she's available. I fucked another 23 yo who likewise wasn't super good in bed either but her body was probably my favorite out of all of them. Again, her bedroom skills were... Eh.
Fucked a 25 yo who was okay. Fucked a 24 yo who falsely accused me and was mid in bed.
Lemme guess, you're one of those spergs that sees 50 posts railing about 23 years old being peak sexual amazingness and now you're depressed. C'mon dude. You're suffering from lack of experience and wisdom and instead masturbating tears into an internet post.
None of what you typed is how real life works. Most of it is online tropes. Get valuable and meet women everywhere.
I've pulled so many young 20s women at my early 30s. More than I could have when i was their age. Stop bitching and start being awesome.
Edit: not my full list of lays, i listed the youngest and some of the oldest ones. Had other post 30 women and 20s women in the mix and i didn't list them. Pulled 21-22 to as well and i just didn't feel like fucking them.
kingthing33 7mo ago
sounds like you can't get teens
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Ya no i don't want to fuck girls below drinking age. Maybe if i were on vacation and would never see them again. It's just not really my thing.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
No, you're just a sperg. A sperg with scarcity mentality and who (i guarantee if I saw a picture of you you wouldn't be hot shit) swallowed the red pill on an empty stomach and has yet to get his shit together.
Ofc if you found red pill and did next to jack dick getting ripped and higher SMV and good at social skills and game and worked on your dang career this whole time you're gonna be on the loner/loser end of the spectrum
What the fuck were you expecting when you found TheRedPill, the pussy password buried in the 5th paragraph of a post?
EurasianChad 1 7mo ago
We live in the social media era, which is bombarded with false information/propaganda, creating a paranoid dating atmosphere.
You're putting too many road blocks on yourself, bro. I approach girls in real life & find out their age. You don't have to go super direct, unless you're in a bar or night club environment. You can be a cool, social dude in the right environments. Join a gym, take up classes. Many things you can do to surround yourself with women. Be sure to actually be interested, so you're not some creep there just hounding on girls lol
kingthing33 7mo ago
I appreciate the response. You're right, I can be indirect and just social and I have just gotten in my head about this. I'm serious though, I don't know what people in their 30s do and I don't know what it is like to live in a big city. I live in a small town and it was pussy heaven in my teens and early twenties but now all of the women my age left are alcoholic bpd whores I have known for years who have fucked multiple people I know and I can't possibly get myself excited about it. I literally don't know where to meet young women. It's literally not even safe to fuck bpd chicks here because you can't just pump and dump anybody, everybody talks to everyone. I got falsely accused in my mid twenties at the height of my popularity and it really fucked me up. I'm getting over it finally but I go to the bars here and chicks don't go to the bars anymore and when they do the whole bar is hitting on them. I take some classes at the community college but it's so small it's hit or miss if there are hot girls around me. This semester there aren't any hot women in my classes. Last year I fucked a 20 year old who lived next door to me in the dorms and she was so fucking hot and had a huge ass. It is just so unsustainable and hit and miss. If I move to a big city where are the women? How does shit work there? I had a good life 6 years ago but I feel like I need to start over somewhere else, but I really don't know how shit works for people in their thirties. When I go on trips to big cities it is usually for a concert and then I don't meet women there. The times I have tried to go to bars it seemed really cliquish and not like people were open to mingling. It's not like it was in my early twenties where I felt welcome everywhere. So honestly dude, just tell me what the environments are. I have social skills, I have a job where I talk to people all day, it just so happens none of them are college aged women. I was going to go to university in a real city but how much stigma is there against 30 year olds? I haven't had an issue at my community college with younger dudes but I also haven't made friends, and I know frats can be weird. Thanks for actually answering my questions instead of getting triggered, making a bunch of assumptions and projecting. I cut everyone off that I was friends with because they were toxic and unambitious and I was busy inventing a new genre of music and learning the skillset of a dozen people. This was my plan for getting pussy but as it reaches the point where I am ready to market it I am maturing and losing interest in being the guy 18 year old me thought was cool and I'm looking for a different path.
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
Much to learn you have.
Your SMV is only now starting to increase - you need to be patient.
I don't have your full details / information, but I can smell the incel of you. It sounds like you are having a dry patch, not getting any pussy, and this in turn is causing the dry panties in all the women you meet.
The solution is always the same: you need to start fucking. Stop being so picky - being picky is a feminine trait. At 30 years old, you need to stop talking and start fucking. Fuck all the chicks you can. Fuck older chicks, younger chicks, fat chicks, thin chicks - just stop being a picky princess.
Then, when you postively reek of pussy because of all the fucking you are doing, when you do meet a top draw woman, she will know that you are chad. She will look deep in your eyes and realise that you have fucked half the town, and she will want you.
At the moment - even if you did meet the woman of your dreams, you would most likely fuck it up. Because you reek of incel. The one thing women are really good at is spotting desperation. they know a chad when they see one, and right now, you aint it.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
Genuine question, is it actually sexual market value or a mix of relationship value as well? Meaning, are the early 20s girls more physically attracted to the 30 year old or do they just want his attributes like money, stability, etc.?
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
Men don't get less fertile as they age, so age is not an issue in terms of SMV the way it is with women. Sure, some 20 year old women will not want to shack up with a 30 year old. But plenty of them do. It's pretty common for young women to go through an older guy phase. I have a friend who's daughter is a model, and she shacked up with a guy of 50 when she was 19. When I was 43, I had a great relationship with a 24 year old woman.
Lots of young women will try the older guy thing. Some stick with it. My 24 y.o. girlfriend told me that she found other 24 year old guys 'like children'. She loved my grey hair. The silver fox fixation is real.
Are they more attracted to 30 year olds?? that really depends on you. You need to not be a whinny little bitch faggot, for starters. You need to act like a man, not a boy. that's what they want.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
I’m asking about if they wanna fuck your brains out more than the younger guy. I’m not sure if that’s what you mean by shack up. I’m not talking about a girl dating Leonardo DiCaprio who doesn’t look good anymore. Those girls are doing it for the lifestyle and clout or something, not raw sexual attraction to his looks. This is a question about sexual attraction based on looks alone.
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
You are asking? Are you OP? Is @wintergreen a side account for @kingthing33??
First of all, women don't fuck mens brains out - its men that fuck womens brains out.
And yeah, women will often prefer an older guy. You sound a bit retarded when you say that LDC 'doesn't look good any more'.
'Looking good' is not what makes women wet. You making the time old mistake infering equivalence. Because you want to fuck women that look good, you think that women are turned on by men that 'look good'.
Men and women are not the same. Women are not really attracted to me because of their youth or looks. If you've ever shared space with a really powerful man (but ugly) man, you will know exactly what I am talking about. Women are attracted to men that rule the world, not pretty boys.
I don't think I am going to be able to explain this to you, because you don't seem to understand the basics.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
I’m not OP.
I’m not sure what you’re going on about… women can and do cream their jeans over hot guys. You never hear women coming in droves to say that Kevin Hart is hot, and he’s powerful as all fuck.
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
Kevin Hart fucks more pussy in a month than you will in your entire life.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
…yet no one thinks he’s hot. Come on, are you not getting what I’m saying or are you just coping? If you don’t want to directly answer my question then don’t, but dancing around it just makes you look foolish. I’m really unsure why you’re flaired, because every single interaction I’ve had with you has made me think less of you.
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
You sound very young when you write 'Women can and do cream their jeans over hot guys'.
It sound to me like you don't have much idea what women want. It sound like you are listening to what women say rather than observing what they do.
Women will never say that Kevin Hart is hot, but he can fuck hotter women that you can dream of every night of the week.
Honestly, you do sound as if you have feminine logic. You think that women want to fuck 'hot guys' because men really do like fucking 'hot chicks'. This is the false equivalence thing I mentioned. Women do it all the time.
You're not much different from women that think that men are turned on by women that have a high paying job, a masters degree, a house that is fully paid off and a fancy car. I see and hear these women all the time - and they are asking WHY CAN'T I FIND A MAN?
The reason they are making such a fundamental error is because they are assuming that what turns them on in a man will turn a man on when the tables are turned. They simply cannot understand why men lust after women without a single dollar to their name, with no degree that waits tables but is beautiful.
You have so much to learn.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
I think you’re basically making the false assumption that being able to compensate with power is the same as just naturally being hot. Which is not true. If the hot guy had the same power he’d run circles around the guy who has power but isn’t hot. Anyway, I don’t agree with the idea that women are squirting over Bill Gates so I’m not debating any longer, thank you for your time.
I will say though that Kevin Hart isn’t ugly so that example wasn’t meant to say he’s ugly.
orbilius 7mo ago
Rock climbing clubs are full of women in their 20s.
Remember the cardinal rule of clubs though: never try to pick up a girl during a club activity - i.e don't show up to your Wednesday night climbing class and ask for Becky's number. That's likely to get you a bad reputation in the club.
Instead, you make friends through the club, expand your social circle, get invited to (or set up) social events, and that's where you ask women out.
Musicgoon78 2 7mo ago
Well honestly the first step it to fix your attitude. It's defeatist and it sucks. You're never going to get anywhere with that kind of mindset.
Now here's your action plan:
Take all those things that are holding you back and hand write them down on an 8x10 paper. Once you're satisfied with what you wrote, take that paper and read it out loud then whipe your ass with it and light it on fire.
That's about as much good as those ideas are.
You're at a crossroads here. Do you want to be a successful guy or a celibate loser that complains?
If you want the former, you are going to need to sacrifice your defeatist attitude. Something tells me that you're one of those guys that loves that attitude. You might not be ready to let that go yet.
This is ok. We need people in society that are good examples of what not to do. Some guys will put up every obstacle they can find to sabotage their success. It's a lifestyle that you're free to choose.
Just know that no one here feels sorry for you and women don't get the tingles from inaction.
I suggest you put in effort and try. This type of stuff isn't really difficult unless you want it to be.
MrSupreme 7mo ago
You're being a bit dramatic about age, I'd you were 55 I would get it but 30 is nothing bro. If you can't find 20 year old then look for fresh out of college 25 year olds. Your main issue may be the low population where you live but what you can work in is your attitude. Take your time, scan the market and see what's going on,who's giving you attention and who isn't.
kingthing33 7mo ago
My attitude is fine, I'm here looking for solutions. I can't get the solutions if I don't explain the problem I'm facing. I guess I need to accept that I have to leave the area but I haven't really gotten a lot of answers besides joining some kind of club which isn't really a thing here. None of the answers here are really getting me excited about my options apart from becoming famous or something. I'm waiting for somebody to come here and tell me where they're meeting 18-23 year olds in their thirties before I start going to theredpill and tell people not to sacrifice their twenties for their thirties and to fuck as many teens as possible before it's not an option anymore.
kingthing33 7mo ago
Matter of fact I want everybody to stop telling me about the 21-23 year olds they have fucked and tell me about the 18-19 year olds. I spent my early twenties tearing through 18-19 year old pussy and I am not ready to give that up. It was better. I have experience and I know.
Einsamer 7mo ago
Dude... I recently hooked up with a 20yo. She looked like 25 so I was surprised. After the second round she asked me if I would be open to do some porn... and I was just like wtf are you talking about hell no. She was cool with it, but then I started talking with a her a bit and ofc she was ranting about all her exes (or men she was together with.... and girls she was together with). Well, tbh, she might have had more girls than I.
So, fuck age. It doens't many anything. Like ANYTHING nowadays. And even IF there were some magical guarantee that # of cocks depends on age - why the fuck would you care? With 20 they already had so many (statistically speaking) that it doesnt really matter anymore. Pair bonding is then damaged one way or the other. And the rest is just in your head my friend.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
If you can’t tell the difference between 16 and 21 then what is the difference between 21 and 18-19?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Underrated reply.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 6mo ago
And I was its first upvote.
I beat you.
Nanny-nanny boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
Thanks bro it was inspired by the white pill (Adderall).
/jk
kingthing33 7mo ago
the amount of dicks that have passed through, for one. second, nobody on this page can bang 19 year olds I guess
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 6mo ago
That's the dumbest shit I've read on here in a while. I didn't think you'd top what I'd read last time I browsed this, but you did.
From my exes:
Back in 2004, I had 2 different women I'd been fucking (not concurrently) press me for my notch count. Both conversations were eerily similar, despite their not knowing each other (different states). I was a burgeoning player, just starting to come into my own. Their concern seemed to be that I'd be just another player dude who fucked and chucked them. After I revealed my notch count to each of them and it was substantially lower than either of them had expected (I was still single digits at the time), I turned the tables:
Both of them had to silently think for a moment, which I knew wasn't a good sign.
When they were done with their mental tally, each of them (again, independently of the other) gave the answer "more than 30, less than 40".
The first of the two was 23 at the time. The second one was 19 at the time.
I've also gotten with women in their late 20s, in their 30s, and even in their 40s whose notch counts came nowhere near those numbers.
So you're full of shit.
Reading between the lines in much of what you write, I'd almost bet that you're a virgin who's been mired in too much low-quality manosphere content.
Musicgoon78 2 7mo ago
Good God. You really are a myopic entitled asshole. No wonder you're having trouble getting women. You're a combative prick to people who are helping you for free out of sheer kindness. No one owes you any justification you whiny little shit.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
There are 19 year old pornstars, and 25 year old virgins. Also you have to talk to teens to fuck them. Guys on this page are often meeting them at clubs (myself included). While clubs often allow teenagers in, I don’t think they go as frequently as people 21+. Try approaching the girls you see out day to day and see what their age is.
Edit: When I say “meeting them”, I mean women in general, not 18/19 year olds. My point was that 18 and 19 year olds probably don’t go to clubs as often because they can’t drink.
kingthing33 7mo ago
Do you mean 'the club' or like 'rockclimbing club'? How does one find these clubs?
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 7mo ago
I’m talking about nightclubs, most don’t have many 18 year olds I don’t think, but I’m not positive.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 7mo ago
You have so much wrong in your post, in your mindset, in your mental models, and in your grasp of the Red Pill that I scarcely know where to begin.
I was going to do a long writeup, partly roasting you and partly pointing you in the right direction.
However, after reading your replies to others who tried to help, I'll keep it short so as not to waste my effort.
1) do you even lift?
(seriously - did you expect some kind of magical "glow-up" at 30, and not to have to put in any work? Do you even fucking lift?)
2) are you fucking retarded?!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
This is one of those guys whose first post is a very strong indicator it will be a quick reg to ban pipeline.
I hope it isn't, for his sake, but so far this rivals all the guys that happened to, including the demanding we give him his preferred answer that flies in the face of other things he asked
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
You're opening sentence confirms in my mind that you are whinny little bitch faggot. That or retarded. Or maybe both.
What kind of man says "I don't want to fuck 30 year old women"
That is retarded AND gay.
A normal well adjusted 30 year old man wants to fuck all the women, all the time. How did you get to be such a picky princess? this is very female behaviour.
kingthing33 7mo ago
A very good deal of effort is spent in the manosphere talking about women hitting the wall and all that shit. Have you ever actually met a 30 year old woman? And you wonder why I would prefer to fuck young ladies? When it's what I became used to? You become picky when you have options. I don't think you've ever fucked anybody under 30. I think you are projecting your faggotry onto me. Normal well adjusted people don't get off on trying to bully people on the internet.
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
Have I ever actually met a 30 year old woman? God no. Pray tell me, what are they like? do they have horns?
What a fucking question.
You have options? I don't think so buddy.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Some of this is in response to your disrespect at @lone_ranger but also your tone to just about all the other people here.
The way you are speaking to all the flaired users (even the non flaired ones) is insane.
What options do you have? You strongly indicated you barely had any.
This is your first post and you've nearly completed the register to ban pipeline on one post alone. That's some impressive shit, i would knock it off, because I'm not going to let our users smack their heads against the wall trying to undo the sheer amount of incel brainwashing arrogance and entitlement you have. And yes, a site ban, not just from this particular forum.
Yeah honestly I'll probably just do it anyway, you have no respect for our users and already crossed the lines of being an unhelpable prick.
Yeah this won't fly here. I don't know what to you were thinking participating here at all when all you wanted was a confirmation bias circle jerk in a room full of mirrors.
As evidenced by 80% of replies, no you aren't. You want a magical pussy password for an extremely narrow age group while also lamenting that you don't want to fuck a different age group and then going on to lament everything in between as well. You came here to be indignant and delusional.
This all in addition to coming on here saying TRP lied to you and vilifying the community out the gates.
Honestly man if you don't show any humility NOW your out. Don't have time to babysit a rowdy little inner child on here.
Cc: @Typo-MAGAshiv
Lone_Ranger 2 7mo ago
I'm not usually in favour of banning, but OP is so retarded that it almost feels like coversing with an Ai troll.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
There is definitely a line. If your first post is an Unsaveable mess (i.e like TryingToDeform) I'm just gonna give one or less chances
mattyanon Admin 7mo ago
As a man you should be creating social circles, not joining others.
This is a major fucking problem. You need to not worry about this and talk to these girls - you're not on dating apps, you're not socialising and you're not daygaming, so that means you are meeting zero women.
Go and talk to them. If they're young, you can easily just bail. Find out about their life........ school or college? If school, say "wow, I had you pegged as 20 years old" and she'll tell you her true age.
I don't know the answer here, but if women near you are not on the apps (as you said), there is no point in you being there.
Try it.
30 is a great age for pulling women: you are attractive, still young, in great shape (if not then fix this), and financailly established.
Find a way to make it work for you.
redhawkes 2 7mo ago
You reap what you sow.
The map is not the terrain. TRP and the guys here can't lift or talk to chicks for you. This is the internalization part and you need to go out and test it.
If you're low SVM, you're invisible to hoes, no matter you age. Being older means jack shit, if you're a loser, it game over and you need to do something about it. Being mediocre won't yield you any results. You won't fuck hot chicks if you're low SMV. It is what it is.
On top of that, you bitch that TRP has failed you lmaoo. You're not entitled to shit. Go out and take it. No one's gonna give it to you.
Bahahaa, at this age, you should tower those faggots with your SMV. It's always the betas that do that. I shit on them on daily basis in the gym and outside. It's amusing af.
Start taking actions today, move to bigger city if you're stuck in scarcity. Talk to people and join clubs, get a hobby or two. Use ig and SM as a tool to market you SMV. If your SMV is shit, work on that, don't put the cart before the horse.