Long story short: 3rd date, I was able to get her to my home to cook (did 1st and 2nd date kinda ok according to what I’ve learned here), but essentially:
- fucked up first with throwing juice by accident on top of her (her face, shirt, pants) while trying to make a joke about how to shake the bottle. Handled the situation with frame (not apologizing, laughing, telling her I was going to clean her with my tongue, getting her stuff she needed to clean herself to show I can handle any situation, etc) but she had to take a bath at my home (it was very embarrassing tho), i washed her clothes and she used a shirt I gave her in the meantime.
- my cooking skills are trash and I didn't make any effort to do anything special, this was intentional to show she is not special / DGAF attitude (but now I'm feeling regret, maybe I should have done something better)
- I escalated hard after the lunch I cooked and she was receptive (not blocking, just putting herself in positions to make it easy for me) but also not initiating shit, not undressing me, etc
- asked me to give her a massage in her body when we were in my bed to watch netflix (and I did it like an idiot instead of fucking her right away like an alpha), wasted too much time on this stuff and kissing her body etc
- spent too much time in stupid foreplay after that, I was so turned on by her body
- fucked up when fingering her, I’m a fucking idiot for not knowing how to, I think she sensed that I didn’t know what I was doing with her clit. Yes I read sex god method but didn’t have a graphical class or anything to teach myself the proper way and it was the first time touching her vagina.
- midway she gave me a handjob going fast (like to get me off quickly), I came kinda fast and she made me bust on her tits/chest (not the best but at least she didn’t block me like with disgust), after that we took another bath together to clean her up and she dressed, like wtf, and started to tell me she had to go due to some pending stuff at work blah blah (which might or might not be true, idk). I didn’t force her to anything but kept trying to escalate with kisses after she was dressed and stuff, however I guess this is the end. She was still receptive (like didn't try to evade the kisses) but didn’t find ways to get her naked again or do piv or get a BJ or anything.
- she obviously saw I have an avg cock with the handjob, which maybe turned her off
One thing I noticed is that she kept comparing me to her dad (foot size, height, some attitudes)
To me it seems I ended up like a beta idiot that has no sexual experience in her eyes (kinda true but who cares), and she did that to keep me as an stupid orbiter, just wanted to see what do you guys think. My plan was to wait 1 week or so to invite her for drinks or dinner and try to end up with her on a hotel (I live with my parents), if she is not receptive/ghosts me just hard next as desire can’t be negotiated and I fucked myself up big time
No texts after, I only sent the typical "let me know once you reach home" and she did but that was it, nothing else.
Is it over? What would you do next in my position?
Sorry if this sounds autistic, I’m still learning, at least I’m advancing, before this I was frozen when talking to a cute girl. This is the first plate that I get this far from the 5 I've been trying to spin since I started talking to chicks 1 month ago.
mattyanon Admin 12h ago
The problem with "IDGAF" is that people assume this is how you live, how you are, and it's just not appealing.
Ideally for cooking you want to create something amazing but make it look effortless.
You don't want to make a woman cum before you get what you want. Like us they can be satisfied and thus not reciprocate/continue after they get theirs.
That's fucking weird
ok
Give her 2-3 days then invite her out.
She's not a "plate" ....... spinning plates means seeing multiple girls.
Good work on getting this far: keep things going with her, keep finding OTHER OPTIONS too.
derdeutscher 12h ago
I think you worry too much. About cock, I have not even average one and many women kept coming back to me for more. Do not sweat it, focus on being relaxed and when it comes down to game, try to give her orgasm with whatever you can - tongue, fingers, cock. Make her come. Try to switch between gentle sensual guy focusing on her whole body and porn star on MDMA who tries to split her in half by fucking her. You will get there bro.
financehardo420 9h ago
This isn’t even a plate yet but solid improvement; your golden nugget of the day:
“This is the first plate that I get this far from the 5 I've been trying to spin”
Much like in sales this shit is a numbers game. Keep meeting more women and trying to plate em. The next one might even let you piv! And in between time w her keep trying w this one (and others).
“she obviously saw I have an avg cock with the handjob, which maybe turned her off”
LOL
“fucked up when fingering her, I’m a fucking idiot for not knowing how to”
A bit behind the learning curve but it’s not that hard. Feel around for a lil ball (usually towards top of the opening” n play around there. Her reactions are your guidelines.
“asked me to give her a massage in her body when we were in my bed to watch Netflix (and I did it like an idiot instead of fucking her”
At least you know
“fucked up first with throwing juice by accident on top of her (her face, shirt, pants)”
You are truly a shit show; do better.
Meet more women.
Fuck more women.
Keep grinding on every other aspect mentioned in the sidebar.
The rest will sort itself
MrSupreme 2d ago
Quit the negative thinking and beating yourself up for stuff that probably wasn't bad at all.Some ladies appreciate a guy that isn't super experienced when they get to be with one and can be more understanding than you're being with yourself right now. What you should be thinking is about getting her out again,making her wet and fucking her. Sex god method is fine but experience is the best way. Just go with the flow and report back
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
You fucked up with being stressed out about the clothes juice and being a sperg. She got naked at your house (bath). A Chad would have laughed off the juice experience and it would have been very funny story. Then you think you have to race to fuck her. The fact she already got naked in your house, even if for just an innocent solo bath in private, was sexually conductive and you didn't capitalize on that vibe
She would have easily fucked you if you were having fun. You weren't having fun. If you aren't proficient at something sexually, wait for a second time with a girl to try to it not the first. She sounds like she would have easily fucked you if you'd just vibed, kissed her all over, and gradually worked to sex whilst having fun with it.
Its unclear if your sexual inexperienced mattered remotely as much as your insecurities and poor outlook and attitude did. Many women will forgive some inexperience, they won't forgive YOU making it awkward
Try to make plans again and stop thinking about alpha beta trope shit like a sperg
pofkaf 2d ago
It seems like you're making good progress as you start on your TRP journey. Keep it up.
Everything you're saying in this post - I've been there, done that. And guess what. I turned out alright.
Don't stress about it too much. Hit her up again and escalate. If she's down, you're golden. If not, who cares? Go pick up another chick.
You got this.
Musicgoon78 1 2d ago
You're so concerned about looking like an alpha (which is retarded) that you look like an insecure retard.
You need to stop taking shit so literally. I've told you that this isn't religious dogma and you haven't changed. When I read your field report you only have one major fuckup. This is the fuckup that is going to haunt you and hinder your success for quite some time:
You're thinking too much about being an alpha. Its a fictional character. You're playing a role and you're a bad actor.
Now calm the fuck down. You got jerked off and got to spray this chick with baby batter. That's a win. Stop being a fucking retard. Ask her out again and don't play faggoty logistics games or alpha larping.
You're doing fine.
First-light 1d ago
What is there to worry about there. You are a beginner. No beginner is ever smooth. None of us knew our way around a woman's body till we learned.
Overall, you did the right thing taking time. If you just banged her before she was fully aroused, it would not have been a great experience for her anyway. Its better to get a woman gagging before you actually start sex for it than get inside her with all the work left to do and then try not to climax before she is out of the starting blocks.
You just lacked practise. So call her up and arrange another practise. Be confident in your ignorance. Don't try to fake what you don't know because at best it comes over as being crap. You are better getting your hands on her and then asking her what she likes -"like this?" "like that?" or even "Show me". They are in many ways all the same but they usually have slightly different preferences.