I’m also 27 years old, and I’ve worked hard to get to where I am today, in every aspect of my life. However, I don’t believe I can compare my experiences to those of a woman, or anyone else, for that matter, because we are not equal.

For most of my life, I’ve lived in a religious country, even though I’m non-religious. That environment meant a higher number of virgins, and I was fortunate enough to experience a "red pill" awakening while I was there.

I was the first for three women during that time, and I can say that I tend to prefer women who, as you put it, "enjoyed themselves." Knowing that a woman held back for a while makes me appreciate her more, because it signals that she understands her value. If I’m being honest, it also makes things simpler, as there’s no comparison to past relationships.

That said, I connect more deeply with women who have experienced life, regardless of whether they’ve held back or not. The one thing that matters to me in a woman’s past is whether she has ever been unfaithful.

What I’ve come to realize is that a woman’s past; whether she’s held back or not; is just another indicator, like a religious upbringing, the absence of a father, or past trauma. On its own, it doesn’t bother me.

Nah man I've had the same thoughts as you. You're still thinking as if women and men are equal. Men have to work hard for their value and women are born with it. They lower theirs by sleeping around. You have to view a girl saving herself for marriage as equally difficult as you building yourself up. It shows self-restraint, self-respect and a pretty hard thing to do in this society.

You seem like you're disgusted by the woman's past which is rightfully so. So if that's the case why are you dating girls with baggage anyway. There are younger women out there without it; you just have to decide if you want to put in the work. No bodycount is infinitely better than low bodycount. You don't need to see a shrink for these thoughts. It's male nature to not want to share. It's bp conditioning saying that retroactive jealousy is not natural.

Females start at the finish line when it comes to dating.

Ain't fair, but it is what it is.

If you wanna blame someone, females grew up in the same cultural system we did, they didn't create it and females are mostly retarded sheep who go along with what they are told to do. Most females remain mental children their whole lives.

I blame the Boomers who let the 1960's happen. And the Beatles. Fuck the Beatles and hippies in general. Drug addicted hedonists with god complexes. Worst generation by far.

If you want to go deeper blame their college professors, who remain useless simps to this day and promote toxic cultural mores to a captive audience of gullible youths. Bunch of cucked and spiteful mutant nerds, 95% of em.

Can any of you relate or am I that fucked up?

Can relate.

We have to work so fucking hard for so fucking long, and get everything right, plus a huge chunk of luck.

All they have to do is not get too fat or fuck too many guys.

Meh, it's fine..... I don't really care, I have my fun and it's not hard to get girls. At my age my SMV is so laughably ahead of when my age that they don't seriously try. It's over for them, it's not for me. That's a pretty good deal in many ways.

But...... family....... fuck knows man, fuck knows. If you don't land your virgin bride at 18, I can't see how it stacks up to be a good or fair deal.

Much younger woman, and get yourself lawyered up to hell and back. Don't expect it to work - get full legal assurances of what it looks like if she doesn't pan out to be the angel you deserve.

Can any of you relate

I believe we all can

I grew up a skinny-tall nerd

Better than being a skinny-short imbecile

So I cheat and do degenerate stuff

You contribute to perpetuating the vicious cycle that created you

And I know life isn't fair

That's all it is. Don't worry though, all will be settled.

grind for a long time to get access to high quality women & when you get there you find they have just been enjoying themselves since 16 and waiting at the finish line

that's really not a high quality woman.

[stuff about seeking an LTR]

Have you read the sidebar? Specifically HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches?

Relevant excerpt:

2) A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.

Men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Since a relationship is what you have to offer, you mustn’t just give it away. It must be a reward she earns in small doses for inspiring your trust and devotion.

I understand that many of you want a LTR with a good girl – sometimes a series of flings isn’t enough to fulfill you. Believe me, I sympathize.

But winning a LTR is HER problem, not yours. Handing a girl your devotion won’t magically make her worthy of it. When you WANT a LTR too badly, you place your focus on the idea of having a relationship instead of evaluating the girl. You become fixated on your fantasy relationship and selectively ignore the things happening right in front of you: her deep character flaws, her indiscretions, and the red flags.

You must regard women as candidates applying for the job of being your girlfriend – a supporter, a lover, a comfort away from the everyday battles. Don't just hire a bitch because you want the position filled. Make sure you vet your candidates fiercely and hire the right girl for the job.

Several years and several men's experiences at the MRP subreddit have borne this out; even when you're already married, being more fuckable and thus getting sex is the man's job, and keeping the marriage/relationship is the woman's job.

I have a hard time convincing myself that any girl is worth my commitment.

Most of them aren't.

The thought of them having loved someone gotten railed by someone else before me eats me. So I do it just to get even

Seems you still have some growing up to do.

Women are usually going to have a past. It just is what it is.

How she behaves and how she treats you is what's most important.

We are living in the world we are born into. This is a problem of our age and it cannot be entirely solved. If you look back across history, you will see that often people had different challenges specific to their times -war, disease, puritanism, debauchery, new technology making old ways of life obsolete, the virtual impossibility of escaping a social class and so on.

Our ancestors are the people from those times who coped and still reproduced.

Our main problem is liberalism and feminism. If you want to become an ancestor, you need to cope. You don't have to marry, you don't even have to have a relationship that endures but you do have to pick a woman and knock her up.

Family ain't what it used to be. You may still be able to have a happy version of something like the traditional family but a lot of guys are held in it in misery and are ruined by women. The best thing is to look at the bottom line -do you want kids. Then be prepared to be flexible about how that works out. This will take the edge of the problem. If you are not marrying you won't be worried about divorce. If you are prepared to quit if its not right, then you won't be terrified of forever with a woman you don't respect or who does not respect you.

Look to the goal. Find the safest route there. Forget your father's map. The landscape has changed. Mountains have fallen and rivers dried up.

Bro, You're still young. It's hard to see any positives when you're just getting started. I had one girlfriend in highschool. I never got past grabbing boobs and ass. She was flakey and I got my heart broken quickly. I was extremely shy with women and social with the guys. My girlfriend ended up ditching me, riding the cock carousel and getting knocked up at 18.

Young girls have it easy. They have all the options. It can make you easily angry or even jaded. I've been there.

As a society we are told some Disneyland bullshit that everything is sunshine and rainbows. You get the sweet loving wife after putting in your time and doting on her. It's all a lie to keep you tamed and docile.

Once you get into marriage or spinning plates, you will realize all the legal advantages women have too.

I'm not saying this to make you mad or sound nihilistic. There is a very harsh fact that most guys forget about women: the wall. You as a guy will have a shit ton of options in your 30's, 40', and 50's. By that time, SMV for women is declining or spent.

I'm older (mid 40's) and I have more options than time. And yes they can be as young as 18.

You aren't fucked up. The dating game is fucked up and it's a joke that's hard to find humor in.

Cheating and degenerate shit are just a part of life. People will tell you you shouldn't do that. Honestly, you wouldn't do it if it wasn't rewarding. Most people won't admit to infidelity, but it's actually rampant in society.

People fuck each other and fuck each other over. Not putting a ring on that isn't fucked up, it's simply not being foolish.

Way I see it like it’s the other side of the “double standard” of guys getting mad hoes = stud vs chicks getting ran thru = slut.

It’s a tradeoff. Be aware of it, accept it for what it is, and move accordingly.

I, like many others before me, stumbled into redpill trying to get my bitch back. What I’ve learned since is redpill isn’t a cure or a fix - it’s a guideline and kinda almost philosophy for how to navigate these hoes in today’s modern era.