So my friends started inviting this girl out in the club and other places. They don't understand RP at all and things closely related to it.
She's very tall, taller than most of us, has nice body, the face is average. No one of us wants to do anything romantic with her.
And ofc, she doesn't have almost any female friends, except one which is rly pretty and much shorter, but she doesn't go out with us as much which is logical since she can have as many dicks as she wants.
What do you guys think about our SMV when we go out with her? (tall one). The ratio is 3-6 men and her alone.
My friends like to bring her out since they think the likelihood of meeting other girls is higher. Idk about that personally.
Idk how girls view us. She isn't sleeping with anyone of us, and everyone can clearly see her as our female friend.
Would it be better if only we men go out without her? My friends think other girls would join us at the table since the 1 girl is with us so they are more relaxed. I personally think she ruins our SMV. I think it's better if the whole group is male, I think we could game better without her and I know most girls don't like other girls (jealousy etc.) and they don't want any competition around, it'd help if the ratio is 6:3 females, but not 6:1.
What do y'all think?
mattyanon Admin 4d ago
Any girls at all in your group helps you.
no
yes
I think it makes no difference to SMV but hugely helps the "these guys aren't dangerous" fear that all women have.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 5d ago
1) when are you going to stop asking strangers on the internet to make every little decision in your life?
2) female friends can provide social proof.
3) kicking someone out of a group without his or her having done anything wrong to anyone is pretty messed up. If I were in the group, and you suggested this, I'd counter-propose kicking you out instead. You'll quickly gain the reputation of an unreliable user, if this is how you treat people.
SSBPikkon 4d ago
I just want to maximise my success in every way. She isn't even that funny or attractive to me. I was against it bcs she doesn't bring anything to the table. Yet my buddies keep treating her like an option by buying her drinks and not letting her pay. If I'm the one being asked, why should a female friend not pay sometimes?
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 4d ago
1) This is important info that should have been included in your OP.
2) yeah, good luck kicking her out if everyone else likes her enough to simp on her like that
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4d ago
The OP never includes the pertinent information
the OP: my girl is perfect in every way blah blah blah
The replies: she's a single mom BPD with an OnlyFans
SSBPikkon 4d ago
Yeah I didn't mention it. That's the problem. The treatment of a gf but she's not a gf
Vermillion-Rx Admin 5d ago
You don't provide a single ounce of necessary context despite the level of detail you provided.
Is she a plus or a minus? Clearly you keep inviting her out, and clearly she keeps going. Is her behavior plus or minus? Does she make the night better or worse?
That is all that matters. You do not need her to run any game and unless she is actively or inadvertently sabotaging anyone and you enjoy her company no one cares. No one is reading into her participation.
No one at a club has any idea what relation a woman has to a group of men unless she is clearly exhibiting PDA or interest with someone, in which case they may merely take note
P.S. there are so many times at my swing dance venue in which i genuinely have no idea why a girl is in a group or who she might be with, if at all. The relevance is that I have no idea of i should ask her to dance or not, and often times it's not worth it compared to easier decisions. But my point is, no one is thinking that hard about it other than possible uncertainty. But again, that's from the male perspective, men avoid approaching women with men near her, women do not shy from men whom a woman accompanies
SSBPikkon 4d ago
Yeah I didn't mention why I'm so against it. She gets the treatment like someone's gf. She never pays for anything. I may be crazy, but why does she or any other girl like her get the best treatment for her: not paying anything, while not providing anything?
She's not funny, interesting, nothing does. And all that attractivenes she has doesn't serve anything. I'd rather have a good wingman that can actually contribute to something.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4d ago
Why would you NOT add that to the post??
Stop inviting her out
cundardunfinished 5d ago
why has no one tried to bang her? 3-6 guys and she's attractive enough and no one wants anything to do with her?
SSBPikkon 4d ago
Tbh where I live no one wants to deal with tall women tbh, she exhibits some male behavior and she doesn't show any IOI's. Also, my buddies aren't strong at game at all. They mostly rely on me to have some chicks which is ungrateful to me tbh, I can't put all work to get the same reward as them.
No-Stress-Cat 4d ago
So what's stopping YOU from pulling her in?
SSBPikkon 4d ago
She doesn't interest me
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Musicgoon78 2 5d ago
You have the most autistic way of thinking. Go out and have fun. Why do you waste so much time and energy on this absolute bullshit? Being around a tall girl simply means that you are around a tall girl.
I guarantee that if you are writing this garbage you are also projecting this garbage and your insecurities into the world.
Musicgoon78 2 5d ago
Another should I post.....
SSBPikkon 4d ago
And also why am I getting such a negative feedback? I'm here to learn something new. To improve myself, I may be right or wrong, but honestly idk why some of y'all with more experience jump on guys here who ask sincere questions.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 4d ago
I downvoted your OP because it's a silly "should I?' question that someone who has read the sidebar and/or has a modicum of social skills would have never asked.
This decision was reinforced by the revelation that you had buried the lead in your replies to me and Vermy.
I downvoted your comment to which I am currently replying because you're whining, and because I'm a dick.
Musicgoon78 2 4d ago
You're getting negative feedback because you're not learning and you're not acting like a normal human being. I feel the negative feedback shows you how low quality and poorly thought out your questions are.
No-Stress-Cat 4d ago
Why haven't you fucked her yet?
SSBPikkon 4d ago
Tbh too much work and she isn't attractive to me
First-light 4d ago
If she never pays for anything, she is NOT YOUR FRIEND. She is leeching off thirsty simps. Make it clear that in your mind friends buy rounds. Say when its her round. If the simps kick off take them up on it. Why is it not her round? Is she everyone's girlfriend? Don't make a big thing of it or the simps will defend her and their simping, just keep it constantly in the background, just say it neutral and light hearted. It may get through to them if you can keep it light and an open topic to avoid them defending. Once their get their little white knight capes on, there will be no salvation for you as they vie in gallantry for the lady's non existent favour.
Probably she is just too tall to be interested in most guys. Unless she is that very rare and maybe mythical creature -a female friend- then why is she out with friends?
SSBPikkon 4d ago
In my country and culture it's somewhat normal to be buying drinks (you are a "man"). I've had buddies who agreed with me. Idk I can ever explain to them to not buy her drinks.
First-light 4d ago
Fair enough. I have a lady from such a country and she is never really happy with the western solution. She will put up with it from me but loves it when all her male relatives buy her stuff and pay for her food and drinks.
But what do you think the girl is getting from this? Is it just the free drinks? why is she wanting to hang out with a bunch of guys she doesn't appear to want to bang? The answer might be illuminating.
SSBPikkon 4d ago
IG she wants attention? She probably doesn't find it easy to find new guys as easy as her competition can. What do you think?
First-light 4d ago
From this distance I am wary of making judgements.
If a woman is regularly hanging around men, its unusual if she wouldn't bang one of them. There is normally a good reason beyond just attention. If there isn't, she probably would actually go out with at least one of them if he asked.
EmpireCrimson 3d ago
First of all, if you’re relying on a group to relate SMV you’re doing it wrong. Unless you’re in a wheelchair there’s no reason you need friends to go out with you for the sake of picking up women. I always enjoy a night out with the boys but I’ve done my “best work” flying solo.
After reading the comments it’s clear that she’s using your collective resources.. which would be OK if she was banging one of you. If she isn’t bringing value to the group and it’s a problem for you, then leave them. They’re more interested in orbiting her instead of getting laid on their own.
Stop worrying about the height thing. My first wife was four inches taller than me (and I’m 5-11). I was not intimidated by her height. While you may want a shorter woman, there’s nothing wrong with the taller ones.
The problem here is that she’s freeloading and providing little value. Treat her like one of the guys since she wants to be one of the guys. Let her know that next time it’s her turn to pay. You may get your (desired) outcome if she flakes out.
SSBPikkon 3d ago
Yeah the value thing worries me. I'm not going to babysit someone than pay for her also. As you said we or me aren't un wheelchair. We don't need a chick to have fun or to burn our wallets.
The height thing is bcs she is way taller than me. Not too attractive and that's why I don't want to deal with her.