I've done some tests online, although they're not as reliable, I personally am selfish and self-centered a lot.
Everybody seems to say that being a narcissistic jerk is the best tool. My whole life everyone, even my family tried to change this personality. But it doesn't work on a bigger level. I should be empathetic, care for others, even though they don't care about me.
I never do something out of care or empathy for someone, I always expect something in return. Tbh, everyone nowadays seems hyper-selfish.
How didn't my narcissistic personality work wonders with women in the past? I maybe think it's because I was afraid that being selfish is "bad" and that if I unleash it, I wouln't be able to communicate with others. But that goes against the masculinity right? Not being who you are, even if you aren't a saint is just projecting something you're not to others.
I can keep friends and all that, it's just that as long as they're good to me and I have worth from them, we'll stay good. As for the females, I wont even talk to them unless they're average or really useful in some areas.
I did ramble too much here, but I can't explain it in detail as much as I want to.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago Stickied
Is it too hard for you to stick the basics dude.
Are you able to post a single major victory about the basics before expanding into the rabbit hole?
You also need to try to answer your own question in this post, or it will be removed
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
What basics? Go out with a chick and call that a victory?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Have you even done that yet?
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
You always talk about basics. Are you reffering to all of the 100 pages of trb sidebar in a nutshell?
I do want to improve, but it seems I'll need to reread it again.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
You have 31 posts and just about nothing to show for it.
That's unacceptable.
If your next 10 posts aren't field reports you're being banned from AskTRP for life
I've banned people from AskTRP for less, comply or goodbye. You will have to resort to asking all of your questions on trp.red instead where the page is less structured and the questions are harder to answer because I'm not going to let you clutter the forums with zero to low progress mental masturbation
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Jesus fucking Christ dude I'm about to ban you from AskTRP. I'm sick of your passive aggressive attitude every time i call you out on your shit
"I need to reread it for the 100th time sorry i made you upset mod"
I can't stand it. Own your fucking shit instead of this childish reaction. this is now the 4th or so time you've given me this reaction. I'm not going to let you hit 200 posts like imtranscending did because you can't wrap your head around basics.
Dude gave the same whiny no progress attitude and hit 200 posts before i site banned him for passive aggressiveness towards me for basic critiques. I'm going to count how many posts you have.
Go learn pick up art. I told Mascun or whatever that name was to better write field reports for the next posts and you are circumventing mod orders to write field reports
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
Okay will do. Where exactly is pick up art. Is it a book, essay or a posts about this?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
How the actual f have you been on trp for as long as you have and don't know what pick up art is
How on earth do you think it's a book title
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
I've seen day game and night game so I thought it was that. What is it then?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Game. Pick up art. Same difference.
There are unlimited game resources dude. Find one and try them
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
Ty. I'm honestly tired of looking at what works best and implementing it. I hope I'll grasp something out of here.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
You don't need "works best"
You need works for you.
No wonder you're stuck at square zero. Endless mental masturbation. Very little trial and error
10 field reports. On this account only. Not some other new account or other account to evade a mod directive
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 2d ago
Okay, but after a field report remove the label. No one will read if they see the label.
I actually like to approach and engage in coversations, but my friend group is totally bullshit and afraid. I need to go out with them or myself or nothing will get done.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
I'll remove the label when you show you can think for yourself, this post didn't even follow the new AskTRP rule.
Think for yourself on your posts and I'll remove it as I see fit. Patience is already being extended to you well beyond what was warranted as is
First-light 10h ago
Briffault always wins in the end. If you deliver value women stay with you. If you look like you will deliver value women consider getting with you.
Are you delivering enough value or at least pretending that you will or are you exuding self interest? Women want you to bring them something. Either you have to be very handsome and successful and show your value is genetic and in your social success or you need to bring something else on a more personal level or at least fake it well enough to get into their pussies.
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 8h ago
Tbh when I see myself I feel like I'll say I bring something generic to the table like other guys would say. That's a really deep question. Wdym by personal level? What value is there?
coolsocks00 1 2d ago
There’s nuance to it. Being selfish is critical, you need to be your own mental point of origin, your own man. A touch of arrogance is also good, because if you are a king you should act like a king.
But there’s something about being good natured, not putting others down, and having your shit figured out to such an extent that you have good vibes left over for others.
It is a tool. But it is communicated through indifference game and amused mastery. Pure narcissism on the other hand can be jarring.
Like a lot of game strategy, you have to be able to read your target girl. Is she a 9/10 Stacy? You can neg her, be a real dick and she wouldnt have it any other way. Is she a more well adjusted chick? She might see through negs or take them too seriously, and think the same game you used for Stacy was some real horseshit.
derdeutscher 2d ago
It did not work because belief that narcs do well with women is a stupid myth. Some do, for sure. But its a minority.
Most of women are repulsed by narcs, just like anyone else is repulsed by them, at least anyone with basic human reading skills and intuition.
Why am I reffering to "them" and not you? Because it is unlikely that you are narcissist. Proper narc would never think of himsef as a narcissist.
No offense, to me you seem just like immature guy.
This whole stupid myth of dark triad has to die. Its cancer of manosphere. Girls are attracted to normal guys with some dark triad traits. Nobody in his right mind is attracted to proper full blown psychopath or narcissist.
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 8h ago
I'm not clinically narc ofc, but I do lean on the side of not caring enough sometimes. That's what I meant to say.
Overkill_Engine 2 1d ago
In a sane, reasonable world, they aren't.
We don't live in that world. Otherwise there would would be no single moms or the steady stream of material that gets posted here regularly of women that clearly reprised the role of Icarus and flew too close to a man that didn't care if she lived or fell into the sea, despite it being achingly clear to a rational observer what outcome was going to happen from doing so.
And then they show up on dating apps either looking for their next Dragon to chase or a Chump to play cleanup to the mess they allowed to become of themselves.
So there is definitely something in the basic hind brain programming that is damn near universal, the question is if an individual woman is smart and socialized well enough to override it.
Many are clearly not.
derdeutscher 1d ago
Yes, but lets not think of some aloof guy as of same thing as a full blown narc. I agree that chicks have spot for idiots, me being one as well, but I pull a hand break when we immediately think of assholes as narcissists.
Full blown, last stage psychopathy, sociopathy, or narcissism is a serious pathology, and these guys are usually not attractive and not so common at all. Why every other guy in manosphere thinks he is a clinical case, is something I dont quite understand.
99% of them are immature guys acting though out of desperation/hurt ego.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
They're definitely attracted to each other
derdeutscher 1d ago
Maybe. But its complicated topic.
I know there is clear data proof that BPD and NPD disorders always date each other. Also empaths and NPD. But for rest I dont know.