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ASMRisMindControl 4y ago
There was a scandal in the Fortnite competitive community with a woman, maybe mid to late twenties or early thirties praying on the 15,16,17 year old Fortnite competitors
Seagram1 4y ago
As a big kid who was athletic I have been prey upon by older women. The perception that I am somehow 'lucky' or should be THANKFUL is the disgusting part. It is time the world realized women are extremely sexually aggressive. Our ancestors knew it, other cultures know it.
lonzee18 4y ago
there was also a moment in the competitive CS:GO scene recently where a famous caster was accused of sexual assault and he responded within 2 days with proof that the allegations were false
thegenericnameboi 4y ago
henryg and kelly jean right? and then kelly jean had to set her profile to private bc she got disproven lmao
lonzee18 4y ago
yessir
McFeely_Smackup 4y ago
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTF_lISzOx1xQNL-0elKVmitIWpWeoHTPghWVmy_mPKMVUapN6e12gFcbM1sZgMcLISmew-zo-UOngK/pub
She was completely unprepared for her own words and actions to call her a liar
rahsoft 4y ago
I've read it
she was one crazy idiot who was trying to blame someone else for her own behaviour and play "victim".
Sintar07 4y ago
It's disturbing the amount of bowing and scraping he has to do to their movement and even the perpetrator in a post about his own innocence filled with proof thereof. But even with that it's still half luck people accepted it.
Adorablefeet 4y ago
Guaranteed she was never raped to begin with.
AdministrativeSky826 4y ago
Put false accusers on a registry!
henhen129 4y ago
I second this.
People creating rape allegations should be registered.
nocivo 4y ago
There is a metoo moment hapenning in streaming and the gaming community. At least 1/3 of the cases were well defended by the guy but they still have their names in a spreadsheet created by a white night. I still have to say that at least 4 were ban from streaming because they came to public saying they are sorry for their actions because they were kids and didn’t know what they were doing. I think all the cases are sexual allegations by fans or other less know streamers and not rape allegations. The exception is one of the allegations that have s girl saying she didn’t know was “raped” until yesterday. She thought the guy was only a dick yesterday, now is a sexual predator.
kursdragon 4y ago
Is destiny the white knight you're referring to?
ChurrObscuro 4y ago
Woulda been the dream
Maxstrongarm451 4y ago
Seriously fuck you.
ChurrObscuro 4y ago
Mad bruh :v
Maxstrongarm451 4y ago
uh... Yeah. Imbeciles like you make me fear for the future of the human race.
GamePlayXtreme 4y ago
And this is why men being raped is talked about so little. Because of this exact tought that so many people still have.
Micsuking 4y ago
With all honesty back when I was 15~ this would have been seen as a blessing by me (and probably for a lot of other boys around that age), mostly because the hormones override logic at that age. But now it really seems disgusting.
Kryto-Kun 4y ago
thiis tbh.
its why in most cases women just shouldn't get the same prison time. teenage boys typically long to smash their young teachers & when it happens the women gets found out due to the boy bragging. not because he told the police out of fear.
no psychological damage or little damage has been done.
"but it's still the same crime"
women's soccer teams get paid less then men's even though it's the same job. why? because hardly anyone wants to watch it since they aren't nearly as good. they're still doing the same thing.
only thing that needs to change imo is women should get some sort of penalty for lying about rape cases. an attempted false imprisonment charge.
pzm2020 4y ago
Bro, at the time you think you want it or like it but in the end your entire mind matures differently due to an event like this. It’s not normal for a child to fuck a full grown woman who is supposed to be seen as a role model and leader. It will definitely affect a kid’s development and have negative repercussions for their future.
Micsuking 4y ago
I understand what you're trying to say, but that comparison was terrible.
Female football players get paid less because they aren't as commercially profitable as males. On the other hand, both pf these are crimes and essentially the same "sex with a minor" charges.
In the end they are both pedophilia whether the minor wanted it or not. Both should get the same punishment for this crime because whether they raped or manipulated a kid through their raging hormones, they still took advantage of them.
Kryto-Kun 4y ago
I was under the impression that the ruining of the child's life was a factor in the sentence no?
actually are there any cases of a man getting a much shorter sentence due to the girl consenting? ie a 15yo girl & a man in his early 20s. or does he still get life?
if the sentence does get lowered In these cases then I still think women should generally get shorter sentences too.
Micsuking 4y ago
I mean... sure. All I want is that everyone has to get the same sentence for the same crime regardless of gender.
Cambino_02 4y ago
The DotA2 scene right now is in a frenzy over recent evidence of one of the casters being sexually predatorial.
20rakah 4y ago
oh I thought this might have been about the dude in method grooming a 14 year old.
pdmasta 4y ago
Of course there is a double standard. In one case, I can beat the shit out of a older woman coming onto me if I felt physically threatened where as the opposite isn't necessarily true. There is nuance to life
Capt11543 4y ago
As much as I dislike Leena, good for her for using her platform to call attention to this double standard.
NoobifiedSpartan 4y ago
That Twitter feed has some fucked people. One person brought up sexual harassment against men, and someone responded with, I shit you not: “Who wouldnt love to bang a milf. Or ur best friends mom”
Mollof2 4y ago
I feel like many dream of fucking older women but if they were but in the siutation they would like to escape it.
AdministrativeSky826 4y ago
That’s just the meta. It’ll change once enough of us demand it
Egalitarianwhistle 4y ago
Let's be honest, 90% of what is now called abuse is not abuse. I'm talking about people making rape accusations because they had mutually drunk sex 5 years ago. Or someone getting their feelings hurt in a break up.
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When you incentivize victimhood suddenly everyone is a victim.
randonumero 4y ago
90% is way too high (anecdotally). IMO the big problem is that as a country we've been unwilling to have a real conversation about what constitutes sexual assault and now even rape is becoming murky. When I was in college, I took a chick by the hand and led her to my room with no objection from her. Nothing happened and it was clear she was uncomfortable so I walked her out and nothing came of it. By today's standards she could say I sexually assaulted her because I "forced" her into my room. I remember another time I was fooling around with a girl. Her pants were off and so was mine so I slid in. We mutually agreed to stop because there was no condom but by today's standards some women would say I raped her.
Rapes and sexual assaults happen everyday but IMO many of the allegations today tend to be neither. They often seem to be buyers remorse or poor decision making in the face of someone you view in a certain light. As much as I think many casting directors are predators, it's not rape if you fuck a guy in exchange for a movie role, it's you engaging in prostitution. It's also not sexual assault because that guy you were talking to but didn't really like kisses you as long as he stops.
Again, I don't mean to underscore the sexual assaults and rapes that take place but I think people today need to act like adults and/or keep themselves out of certain situations. That goes for the accused too.
squngy 4y ago
I'm so glad you made a scientific study on this, where can I read your paper?
Steve_Bagman 4y ago
The evidence is the fact I can go to the park, flick a kid on his forehead and get charged for child abuse with a 15,000 dollar law suit to pay for “phycological and emotional damages”.
squngy 4y ago
Good thing to know I can flick your forehead all I want for free!
GimmeDaScoobySnacks 4y ago
I did'nt realize hurting someone's feelings was rape.
squngy 4y ago
Straw man much?
GimmeDaScoobySnacks 4y ago
Oh i'm sorry, I thought it was just common sense that hurting someone's feelings is nowhere near rape, neither can it be considered rape. Guess we need a scientific study on this.
squngy 4y ago
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=straw+man
GimmeDaScoobySnacks 4y ago
I guess hurting someone`s feelings is rape.
squngy 4y ago
I guess in your case, reading is rape, judging by how hard you're avoiding it.
Or maybe even after reading what a straw man is, you still don't understand what it is.
To put it simply, no one ever fucking said that.
Show me one person who ever said hurting feelings = rape, aside from insane people like you, that is
yeoxnuuq 4y ago
Truth hurts sometimes.
squngy 4y ago
Yea, you wouldn't be hurt as much by obvious lies or exaggerations.
Maybe that is why some people make up false statistics and post them on the internet, to make them selves feel better?
yeoxnuuq 4y ago
As a law enforcement officer that actually has investigated supposed sexual assaults the public-at-large is not ready to hear just how many of them are out right lies. Federal as well as state and local agencies actively discourage the charging of false reports. DOD investigative elements (NCIS, OSI, CID, CGIS) have blanket policies that prevent charging people with making false reports.
squngy 4y ago
You're changing the topic a bit.
The original claim wasn't that the reports were false, but that people are crying rape over any little thing.
I don't disagree that either of those things are happening, but I would like to have some source before people can just start saying that that is all that's happening anymore.
I am aware of this, but as I understand it is based on solid science.
There were several papers that showed most real victims avoid reporting the crime, because they are terrified of being labelled a liar and getting their lives even more messed up.
These types of crimes are a huge pain for everybody, because they tend to be a he said she said type of deal and getting proof against an abuser as well as against a liar is often impossible.
Making a big show out of charging "the victim" will probably not get them convicted (lack of evidence) but it can make real victims even more convinced they should just stay quiet.
Egalitarianwhistle 4y ago
Or how about just don't tell lies about being raped or abused and you should be in the clear. Sadly this is asking too much.
squngy 4y ago
You can say the same about literally every crime.
Also, why are you even saying that here? I never defended the liars or anything.
Egalitarianwhistle 4y ago
Before #metoo was a thing, the FBI found that false accusations of rape were five times higher for most other types of crime.
If you set up an honor system where you tell people in advance that they will be believed, while simultaneously demonstrating that there are rarely any negative consequences for lying, (even if you are caught maliciously lying,) then of course the number of false reports will go up.
squngy 4y ago
But is the number of false reports higher then the number of legitimate reports?
And how do you reduce the number of false reports without also lowering the number of legitimate ones?
NAWALT_VADER 4y ago
My immediate thought on reading this is that she is about to be "cancelled".
LifeAboutNothing 4y ago
I can see that women don't like other women calling them out on their shit.
Dylpooh 4y ago
They don't like it when others don't blindly follow their narrative.
AdministrativeSky826 4y ago
Liars want others to play along
nocivo 4y ago
Don’t worry, she made 2 big mistakes a month ago and wasn’t fired. The owner of the team was her boyfriend, a current player is the boyfriend and she is on the team since the beginning. She will never be fired unless she wants.
ThreeLF 4y ago
She's in a position she can't handle off of clout alone.
RepulsiveCockroach7 4y ago
My immediate thought was, "where can I sign up for this e sports team?"
ThreeLF 4y ago
She's the president of Team Solo Mid. TSM notoriously mismanages their players and support staff, and was way behind the curve in providing their players amenities that other teams were.
On top of all this, TSM player salaries are less than competitive because the prestige associated with the TSM name gives the org more bargaining power.
Even Leena Xu has done/said some sketchy shit.
RepulsiveCockroach7 4y ago
Yeaaa idk about all that I just want to bang some cougars.
el_doherz 4y ago
Lol she's already dating one of their players.
Micsuking 4y ago
I mean... it really doesn't have to be for that reason. If I were to join an e-sports team, I would like to join one that has a persident that can understand the players and help them in any way they could.
nocivo 4y ago
Go for Cloud 9. Jack is the owner and CEO and his known for being a cool guy to the players.
RepulsiveCockroach7 4y ago
Nope. I just want to bang this cougar.
blausommer 4y ago
Are Presidents allowed to date their players? Isn't that frowned upon? It seems to me, that if you ever hold power over someone's career, it's a big no-no to be romantically involved with them.
el_doherz 4y ago
That relationship was also a cause of a major fuck up on her part.
She had a confidential phone conversation regarding one of her partners team mates career whilst in earshot of his stream. So she leaked publically the state of a players contract issues massively lowering his negotiating power with other orgs.
shaner38 4y ago
No, women are allowed to say stuff like that in support of men and get away with it.
She'll be fine.
KindaSeriousGuy 4y ago
You would be surprised. Often those that help and try to voice the concerns of men are often alienated from their own.
falls_asleep_reading 4y ago
Cassie Jaye would like a word...
shonmao 4y ago
And Janet Bloomfield. They started going after her daughter so she’s been off radar.
Lostvayne12 4y ago
Could I have a link to the tweet?
OhOk89 4y ago
https://twitter.com/leena_xu/status/1276649438484680705
Dylpooh 4y ago
https://twitter.com/leena\_xu/status/1276649438484680705
Goodwin512 4y ago
Oh, Leena is actually a really cool person, she manages the gaming organization TSM! Shes not specific to a single game, so not sure what realm this would be in.
There is a huge outbreak of people coming out about their sexual abuse situations from the streaming service Twitch.tv at the moment, which may be where this stems from. It is very unlikely that she is going to be "cancelled" because the gaming community really don't give a fuck about "omg but muh woomen".
el_doherz 4y ago
She should have been cancelled for the dardoch situation.
TetraThiaFulvalene 4y ago
Not sure how they would cancel her either. She's just an employee for TSM.
Goodwin512 4y ago
I mean shes the president of the entire gaming org
yugeyy 4y ago
Honestly this twitch outbreak it seems fake, why all of these accusations in a short period of time and why do you accuse via Twitter, a social media.
Sophisticated_Sloth 4y ago
It’s often like that. One or two speak out, and then many others get the courage to do the same.
Because it garners attention.
yugeyy 4y ago
Oh, now it's understandable
787787787 4y ago
Wait. Does she mean younger, like under age, or just older women with younger men?
jtbarley 4y ago
A lot of pros, especially in fortnite, are like 14-17 years old and there was recently a situation about a older female manager or team owner or something that was taking advantage of these pro players
Neveah_Hope_Dreams 4y ago
Yeeeesss! Thankyou!
And she's a woman, too. It's great to see women speaking out for men's rights.
LotBuilder 4y ago
Butch lesbians are pros at grooming and picking off crazy chicks. I’m not saying it’s abuse but if guys did it the same way they would be accused of taking advantage of them in an emotionally fragile state.
BulbasaurusThe7th 4y ago
Anecdote. In my old friend group one girl was friends with a typical fat butch lesbian with personality disorders.
Her method was going to girls who just had bad breakups with guys and Trying to convince them men are not needed and being a lesbian is safer.
I would say it's emotionally abusive to play up someone's fears and negative feelings to get sex.
LotBuilder 4y ago
My personal trainer is a butch lesbian. She has actually become a really good friend. We were going through our crazy divorces at the same time so we bonded over that. She butch but fit and attractive. Lots of ink and short hair, Extremely charismatic. Lots of “ignored” housewives fall in love with her and come after her. She said when she was younger she had a field day with them but eventually it got to be so much trouble that she stopped seeing anyone from her gym. She said a lot of the less attractive butch types will find a woman with addiction or mental health issues and flip them. They would cruise AA/NA meetings, online support groups for BPD or bilpolar. They are basically predators but the strait women are so embarrassed about it they just move on.
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BulbasaurusThe7th 4y ago
I felt so weird about the kind of fringe elements of that group, because I just kept having to say "yeah, that's fucked up, I'm not taking part". A lot of personality disorders in one bundle.
rahsoft 4y ago
ok, shall we have a sweepstake on the response from the feminists?
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what excuses or labels will they apply to this woman( that the feminists would consider a traitor to the cause) ?
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I'll start with
Internalised misogyny
Hamburger-Queefs 4y ago
I thought they were called “survivors”
reo2541 4y ago
TSM, right?
paullohmeier 4y ago
Yes!
ColonelVirus 4y ago
She's hot and successful in gaming that doesn't revolve around streaming and dumping men? Boy is she gonna be in for it...
Heterodynist 4y ago
Leena Xu, thank you!! I want to thank her from the bottom of my heart. Why do we live in such a biased culture that it has to be a shock to anyone that females can ALSO be abusers. People are genuinely brainwashed!!
Futurism2097 4y ago
Very honest of her! I like her.
Loumier 4y ago
Wait, who's she and is she talking about her young players?
bettercallconnolly 4y ago
It seems to be that female sexual abuse is usually accompanied by a pretty disturbing age gap. Not to say that the same doesn't happen with male sexual abuse, but it seems like males will abuse females their own age, whereas most of the stories that come out about female abuse is teachers/similar abusing their position to prey on young boys.