I'm upvoting you matty - I agree with you. My first 3 were in jest.
But to be honest, I would ever have an LTR with a woman believed in star signs. Because the purpose of an LTR is reproduction, and I don't want my children to be mentally retarded. And if you are born in the first world, and you have had access to education and libraries, and you still choose to believe in star signs, then you are retarded. Not as in the insult 'retarded', it means that she is literally mentally deficient.
With women you always have to add - for you at the end. These are not the requirements for super Chad, she’s been sucking and fucking super chads for the last 20 years that’s why she’s like 35+ and single. Because for you and me she has all these requirements.
I can't even count the number of times I've heard "you're usually not my type" (or my favorite "I've never really been into a black guy") before a woman is getting pretzeled in my bed.
Remember, if a woman is into you, she will quietly and quickly abandon all her "standards". If she isn't into you, you have to meet all of her "standards".
It's quite common for "career women" to have these requirements. Unfortunately, many men that meet just the income requirement alone are smart enough not to commit to women like her. There is also intense competition with younger women. This has resulted in a global societal shortage of men that these "career women" want.
yup, its' always been the case that women want Chad, the looks and the money to go with it.
But, with women now having careers and actually making more than men in the 20-30 age bracket which will only increase. These women are going to have a hard time of it. You can't negotiate with Hypergamy
She wants a top looking guy who makes more than her
the more she makes, the harder that will be, she''ll have to "gasp" compromise. That's not going to turn out well for her, and especially for the poor victim in this scenario.
In my early 30s, I would encounter 2 major groups of women at social events
1) Late-20s - 30s women, most with degrees and some with 'decent careers'. These women would be sitting pretty, near the center of the room and smile when making eye contact, expecting me to approach them for conversation.
2) 18 - 20s women, typically college students or recent graduates. These women would be in t-shirts and shorts/jeans and would come and sit next to me to chat, or approach me when I get up for drinks/food. At 1-3 hour social events, I would encounter perhaps half a dozen to a dozen of these approaches.
So, the Group 1 girls, are gonna be angry crazy cat lady's it looks like
that's probably the toughest age for these girls, ,late 20's into 30's. The "I didn't hit the wall yet, did I"
Once they get into their 40's, they'll end up approaching guys they find attractive. The problem is they guys will have fun with them, but not LTR them.
I'm old, I have friends who's kids are in the 20/30's range now, good careers, 100K plus/year.
The girls are a bit over weight. They complain they can't find a guy.
One of them said the last guy who approached her, she was out at a bar and she was saying that he was a really nice guy, not bad looking but Damn he was close to 50, she's 30.
That 30 year old woman that is spurning the 50 year old guy - what she doesn't yet realise is this: that is what is on offer for her. That is her target market.
Guys start making decent coin at 35 (around abouts). If a guys is sorted at 35, with a decent career, owns a property, car, no debt, is not fat, is above average height, has hair on his head....then he is GOLDDUST in the dating market. He is dynamite. He is what every woman is looking for.
She needs to ask herself - what is she? She is an average, normie, pudgy 30 something year old, with a string of failed relationships, a so-so career. There are MILLIONS of her. She is basically an NPC.
That 50 year old dude that was hitting on her. She doesn't yet realise this: he was actually compromising. She was not her first choice. In that same bar where the older dude hit on her, there were many many younger, hotter, thinner, fitter birds that were more fun, had better bodies and were better in every way. The whole reason he hit on the pudgy 30 year old is BECAUSE she was lower in SMV, which he reasoned, gave him a higher chance of converting.
Source: I am that older dude that used to target mid range normie girls for a pump and dump (married now).
I agree, she's a fun girl, good attitude, good career. But she's fat and at her age, it's only gonna get worse.
I'm old, I wouldn't even hit her up, fatties just make me limp, always have.
So, she's gonna have it tough. She makes real good money, she is probably willing to get a guy at her SMV, but he's gotta make as much as she does.
But those guys can get prettier girls for LTR.
So, we all know there's plenty of heavier guys out there with good looking wives, cuz he's giving her the country club lifestyle. She's not wet for his looks, she's wet for his wallet.
Yup. I think that there is a short supply of men that they are looking for. Most of these men have wised up with age and simply filter out these women, even if they haven't completely adopted 'red pill' thinking. Many of these older women have complained quietly that there are no eligible men in their age range, in their social groups.
Some of these single 40s (and 'religious') women can be quite unpleasant, when I was a teenager, one late 30s woman used to constantly tease me that I looked 'fat'. This teasing continued for over a decade, until one day I got really pissed and when the now 40s woman teased me again, I retorted that she looked 'old'. The woman was shocked and she never teased me again.
I fell like sitting that girl down and explaining it.
Look sweety. You are 30, you are looking for a guy who's between 30 and 35. good looking and successful, making as much as you or hee hee, maybe 1.5X what you make.
You are cute in the face, but you are over weight.
So, this guy has options,
1) he can choose the successful girl who's 30 and a bit overweight (probably gonna get much more so if she gets a boyfriend). Who thinks of you as an equal, maybe even a bit lower than herself
Or,
2) he can choose the 25 yo hottie who's an aerobic instructor, who thinks you are the lottery (she just doesn't know he's not gonna put a ring on it yet ;) )
Fine, I get it. But she's cutting out a lot of men who would be more inclined to tolerate her fuckshit. That's cool, she's secretly saying "I want a traditional masculine man." Let's see how that plays out with the rest of her "deal breakers"
Atheists
Fine. Same as above. Now she's angling for religious traditional men. That group is notorious for being very permissive and flexible about gender roles. /S
No higher education
Uh oh. Most of the men with higher education tend to skew liberal. Already coming in hot with the conflicting demands.
No successful career
Classic modern woman. Dumps all her stat points into things that she wants in a man and then expects men to out-man her. The problem here is twofold: first, she thinks her money adds SMV. It doesn't, and it comes with things (i.e. her bitchy attitude) that detract from it. Second, those men who make more than her that fit her other deal breakers are not looking for her. She is fucking invisible to them.
God I can't even go down the rest of this list because I don't have the time (the pre-workout is giving me the itches). This woman is essentially pricing herself out of the dating market and into spinsterhood.
Her money would add some SMV, if she was willing to at least support the family 50-50 or better. Unfortunately, it is more than offset by the loss of youth, unwillingness to fulfill feminine roles, and potentially student debt. In addition, in many of these cases, her money/earning capacity just leads her to have higher expectations/requirements of potential men for LTRs.
I've met many 30s women like her, with average looks, which are further depreciated by age, yet having higher expectations than the 18 - 20s women I was dating. These 30s women actually think that because they can buy me lunch and gifts sometimes, have more work and life experience etc., that they are more attractive than 20s women.
My thinking was, the younger 18 - 20s women I was dating will also eventually reach their 30s if we decide on an LTR. So why not just enjoy the best of both worlds?
Now that she had been dumped by all kinds of men, she is looking for safety and forgiving nature of a religious guy. The bs thing is that unless the guy is redpilled, most of them will easily fool the religious guy by appealing to his sympathies and lack of experience.
The good thing is there are enough 'religious men' who have enough exposure to redpill and her criteria are so specific that it filters out basically anyone on the planet.
Arcturus 1y ago
You can ask $50k for a used 2003 Hyundai with 150k miles on it. Doesn't mean you'll get any takers.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Exactly.
My demands are a brand new Bentley for less than $40k.
Why is nobody fulfilling my demands!!!!!
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
She is stating her list of her deal breakers, and is asking for ours. Come on guys, lets join in.
I'll start the ball rolling:
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Not a deal breaker.
Not a deal breaker.
Not a deal breaker.
Dealbreaker.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
I'm upvoting you matty - I agree with you. My first 3 were in jest.
But to be honest, I would ever have an LTR with a woman believed in star signs. Because the purpose of an LTR is reproduction, and I don't want my children to be mentally retarded. And if you are born in the first world, and you have had access to education and libraries, and you still choose to believe in star signs, then you are retarded. Not as in the insult 'retarded', it means that she is literally mentally deficient.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
:)
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Here's my deal breaker:
Having a list of "deal breakers" that aren't tied to a man's character
nicknack 1y ago
With women you always have to add - for you at the end. These are not the requirements for super Chad, she’s been sucking and fucking super chads for the last 20 years that’s why she’s like 35+ and single. Because for you and me she has all these requirements.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Exactly this.
I can't even count the number of times I've heard "you're usually not my type" (or my favorite "I've never really been into a black guy") before a woman is getting pretzeled in my bed.
Remember, if a woman is into you, she will quietly and quickly abandon all her "standards". If she isn't into you, you have to meet all of her "standards".
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Yep. The good ol' dual mating strategy.
If you are a chad, pound away for free.
If you are beta bucks, you'll need to provide plenty of money and don't expect any sex either.
AsianDude 1y ago
It's quite common for "career women" to have these requirements. Unfortunately, many men that meet just the income requirement alone are smart enough not to commit to women like her. There is also intense competition with younger women. This has resulted in a global societal shortage of men that these "career women" want.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
yup, its' always been the case that women want Chad, the looks and the money to go with it.
But, with women now having careers and actually making more than men in the 20-30 age bracket which will only increase. These women are going to have a hard time of it. You can't negotiate with Hypergamy
She wants a top looking guy who makes more than her
the more she makes, the harder that will be, she''ll have to "gasp" compromise. That's not going to turn out well for her, and especially for the poor victim in this scenario.
AsianDude 1y ago
In my early 30s, I would encounter 2 major groups of women at social events
1) Late-20s - 30s women, most with degrees and some with 'decent careers'. These women would be sitting pretty, near the center of the room and smile when making eye contact, expecting me to approach them for conversation.
2) 18 - 20s women, typically college students or recent graduates. These women would be in t-shirts and shorts/jeans and would come and sit next to me to chat, or approach me when I get up for drinks/food. At 1-3 hour social events, I would encounter perhaps half a dozen to a dozen of these approaches.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
So, the Group 1 girls, are gonna be angry crazy cat lady's it looks like
that's probably the toughest age for these girls, ,late 20's into 30's. The "I didn't hit the wall yet, did I"
Once they get into their 40's, they'll end up approaching guys they find attractive. The problem is they guys will have fun with them, but not LTR them.
I'm old, I have friends who's kids are in the 20/30's range now, good careers, 100K plus/year.
The girls are a bit over weight. They complain they can't find a guy.
One of them said the last guy who approached her, she was out at a bar and she was saying that he was a really nice guy, not bad looking but Damn he was close to 50, she's 30.
That girls gonna have it tough
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
That 30 year old woman that is spurning the 50 year old guy - what she doesn't yet realise is this: that is what is on offer for her. That is her target market.
Guys start making decent coin at 35 (around abouts). If a guys is sorted at 35, with a decent career, owns a property, car, no debt, is not fat, is above average height, has hair on his head....then he is GOLDDUST in the dating market. He is dynamite. He is what every woman is looking for.
She needs to ask herself - what is she? She is an average, normie, pudgy 30 something year old, with a string of failed relationships, a so-so career. There are MILLIONS of her. She is basically an NPC.
That 50 year old dude that was hitting on her. She doesn't yet realise this: he was actually compromising. She was not her first choice. In that same bar where the older dude hit on her, there were many many younger, hotter, thinner, fitter birds that were more fun, had better bodies and were better in every way. The whole reason he hit on the pudgy 30 year old is BECAUSE she was lower in SMV, which he reasoned, gave him a higher chance of converting.
Source: I am that older dude that used to target mid range normie girls for a pump and dump (married now).
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
I agree, she's a fun girl, good attitude, good career. But she's fat and at her age, it's only gonna get worse.
I'm old, I wouldn't even hit her up, fatties just make me limp, always have.
So, she's gonna have it tough. She makes real good money, she is probably willing to get a guy at her SMV, but he's gotta make as much as she does.
But those guys can get prettier girls for LTR.
So, we all know there's plenty of heavier guys out there with good looking wives, cuz he's giving her the country club lifestyle. She's not wet for his looks, she's wet for his wallet.
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
A minority of them also end up as born-again religious women. Seen plenty of them in religious communities.
AsianDude 1y ago
Yup. I think that there is a short supply of men that they are looking for. Most of these men have wised up with age and simply filter out these women, even if they haven't completely adopted 'red pill' thinking. Many of these older women have complained quietly that there are no eligible men in their age range, in their social groups.
Some of these single 40s (and 'religious') women can be quite unpleasant, when I was a teenager, one late 30s woman used to constantly tease me that I looked 'fat'. This teasing continued for over a decade, until one day I got really pissed and when the now 40s woman teased me again, I retorted that she looked 'old'. The woman was shocked and she never teased me again.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
it's true
I fell like sitting that girl down and explaining it.
Look sweety. You are 30, you are looking for a guy who's between 30 and 35. good looking and successful, making as much as you or hee hee, maybe 1.5X what you make.
You are cute in the face, but you are over weight.
So, this guy has options,
1) he can choose the successful girl who's 30 and a bit overweight (probably gonna get much more so if she gets a boyfriend). Who thinks of you as an equal, maybe even a bit lower than herself
Or,
2) he can choose the 25 yo hottie who's an aerobic instructor, who thinks you are the lottery (she just doesn't know he's not gonna put a ring on it yet ;) )
who's he gonna pick?
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
I just realised that there is a down arrow.... I assume clicking on that would reveal a few more pages of demands!
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
my list of demands.
1.) You must not be a bitch
gonna end it right their with this girl
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
I only have 1 deal breaker: Greater than zero body count.
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Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Let's go down the list one by one:
Fine, I get it. But she's cutting out a lot of men who would be more inclined to tolerate her fuckshit. That's cool, she's secretly saying "I want a traditional masculine man." Let's see how that plays out with the rest of her "deal breakers"
Fine. Same as above. Now she's angling for religious traditional men. That group is notorious for being very permissive and flexible about gender roles. /S
Uh oh. Most of the men with higher education tend to skew liberal. Already coming in hot with the conflicting demands.
Classic modern woman. Dumps all her stat points into things that she wants in a man and then expects men to out-man her. The problem here is twofold: first, she thinks her money adds SMV. It doesn't, and it comes with things (i.e. her bitchy attitude) that detract from it. Second, those men who make more than her that fit her other deal breakers are not looking for her. She is fucking invisible to them.
God I can't even go down the rest of this list because I don't have the time (the pre-workout is giving me the itches). This woman is essentially pricing herself out of the dating market and into spinsterhood.
AsianDude 1y ago
Her money would add some SMV, if she was willing to at least support the family 50-50 or better. Unfortunately, it is more than offset by the loss of youth, unwillingness to fulfill feminine roles, and potentially student debt. In addition, in many of these cases, her money/earning capacity just leads her to have higher expectations/requirements of potential men for LTRs.
I've met many 30s women like her, with average looks, which are further depreciated by age, yet having higher expectations than the 18 - 20s women I was dating. These 30s women actually think that because they can buy me lunch and gifts sometimes, have more work and life experience etc., that they are more attractive than 20s women.
My thinking was, the younger 18 - 20s women I was dating will also eventually reach their 30s if we decide on an LTR. So why not just enjoy the best of both worlds?
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
Now that she had been dumped by all kinds of men, she is looking for safety and forgiving nature of a religious guy. The bs thing is that unless the guy is redpilled, most of them will easily fool the religious guy by appealing to his sympathies and lack of experience.
AsianDude 1y ago
The good thing is there are enough 'religious men' who have enough exposure to redpill and her criteria are so specific that it filters out basically anyone on the planet.