Okay, I've seen so many requests for texting guides, and the short and simple is that texting is for logistics, so that spergs can fuck up when they get to the date rather than on text (@Musicgoon78 for that line of thought)
If a girl is not into you, it does not matter what you text her, you cannot build attraction over text. Every character of text you type, particularly emojis, without any logistics down, can only hurt you, just like speaking to the police.
Texting a woman with unearned attention like her other 50 sexless orbiters is a foolish endeavor. Confident and socially capable men do not text women for funsies™, they make plans and don't care if they get rejected. Rejection is better than regret and women will generally not reject men they like and want to be around.
To quote @Malardcove, if she is already uninterested in you, every time she sees your name flash across her screen, and you aren't the guy she is eagerly awaiting a text from, disappointment washes over her brain and she associates you with that disappointment.
So don't be that orbiter senseless texting for anything other than plans.
That all being said, texting provides a medium of communication that is much different in some ways than verbal communication. You CAN leverage texting in some limited situations to ignite a chance to meet up or get a girl thinking, but at the end of the day, if she didn't like you it doesn't matter what you say, there is no guide to wet some dry panties over text with a girl you've still never banged.
Silver Platter Text
Now this should go without saying but I know countless men that would and have fumbled this part. If a girl texts you ANYTHING along the lines of if it was awesome meeting you, you were so much fun, or that she wants to hang out/go out, JUST TAKE IT
There are way too many men who take this kind of text and think they still have to work on her over text. NO, you don't. Maybe give some breadcrumbs in between then and the time of plans, but don't become her penpal, or worse, not take up the easy win, which I've absolutely seen men do.
Reignition/Salvaging
Texting does serve a critical purpose if you use it correctly: picking up where you left off with a woman. This is hands down the primary save of attraction and getting her invested IF when you first met her and got her number, you did NOT have enough time to game her or establish rapport.
Now, this doesn't mean be her pen pal or free attention, but if you otherwise vibed with a woman but didn't have much time to work on her it's a save. Anyone who has ran enough game has encountered situations where they said and did everything right and just as you're about to close or a few minutes away from it her friends say "hey we have to go" or some other inconvenience occurs like her Uber she already paid for just arrives, leaving you on a cliffhanger, where it would be awkward to suggest anything else. So you get her number.
So, you are left to pick up here. What you should do in this case is, if appropriate, tell her to text you when she gets home safe (rapport boost, investment bait, interest test). If she responds, say "that's great." Now, oftentimes interested women will add "had a great time with you" or "nice to meet you" or some other opening, in which case just resume there.
If she responds with nothing other than that she got home or it was nice to meet you, save your next reply till the next morning. Send a reminder of something that was said the day/night before that was something on a high note. If she responds positively, transition into the next part:
Segway from text to plans
This can easily usually be done in a few texts, and there is no specific way to do it, but what you should do is gradually make each response you send closer and closer to plans, preferably 3 messages or less. You may need a few more if she's particularly chatty which can give you some more openings.
1) opening text (mutual interest/quality/hobby)
Say something relevant to a highlight regarding an interest/hobby from previous conversation from the day before, ideally something that could easily relate to a similar activity, (maybe it was about how both of you liked wine or an outdoor adventure)
"I honestly didn't expect to run into another wine enthusiast last night"
2) bridge text (activity/destination/goals)
So she responds: "yeah me neither that was a pleasant surprise!"
Now what you should do is bridge it. Chances are if you're reigniting a topic she probably already talked about what her favorite kind was or some relevant detail, so ask something related to logistics or something that could easily become logistics.
You: "I know right, what were the odds of that at? What's a winery in town you've always wanted to go to but haven't gotten the chance to try yet?"
3) make plans (logistics, close)
If she says anything positive or excited she's probably down to make plans.
"I'd be down to check it out with you sometime/ this weekend"
(Avoid asking what her schedule is like some times that's too invested and forced out the gates, just wait for her answer to the original idea).
If she replies to your previous question with "idk" or some other low effort or closed off nonsense like "I don't have time to" she's probably not interested. It's probably good to disengage/ ghost/ fade from the convo or YOLO it with the intention to next if she says no. Don't try to heat up a cold iron if she's not already into you
4) finalize plans
Should be self explanatory but if she agrees just pick a time and day, don't make it complicated. Generally asking to pick them up is risky depending on how interested or what girls in your area are like. In mine they never want to be picked up for some reason, but I have friends in other areas that always are willing to carpool on a first date by stopping at your house or being picked up at theirs.
Etc.
So this is a pretty to-the-point progression that pretty much usually works on an already interested and comfortable woman when you have been socially competent, but like I said if they are particularly chatty you can keep the convo going a bit more than this before progressing through these steps. Some times they give you good ammo for logistics if you let them talk more. Don't be afraid to use this to your benefit so long as you don't get sucked into typing non stop. Always get to logistics
Also, like I said, your texts should always be related enough to plans that you can Segway into plans. Don't just talk about attributes about her for no reason or some other topic that could never become plans in a text conversation. It's unearned attention.
Note: this progression also works on dating apps, you don't need more than three texts from your opener using this progression strategy.
Photos
Hands down this is something you cannot accomplish in person, unless you pull out your phone to show them something, which can be effective.
Now, the good thing about photos, is you can choose what to send and a picture is worth a thousand words. I can't tell you guys how many times I pulled without even having any relevant conversation leading up to an enticing photo text.
My favorites are taking pictures of amazing tacos I've made or spicy tequila I made with the peppers floating in the jar, or a picture of my guitars, picture of a hiking trail I'm on or some food at some nice by inexpensive restaurant or bar. (my favorites for house lays are the guitar, homemade food and drinks)
Now you can use anything that could be related to plans, just don't try to rely on wealth (boats, etc., but it could work, just not for the reasons you are hoping). Same thing with dogs, you can take a picture of your dog but you risk her being more into the dog than you. Just think about whether what you're sending is making her think about you or your possessions more.
If they are interested they'll pretty much invite themselves to check out what you're sending:
"Mmmmm that looks so good"
"I'm jealous"
"That looks fun"
"That looks amazing, what is it?"
"I wish I were there"
"You'll have to make me that sometime"
"I want to try that!"
Again, photos of fun plans or plan-adjacent things are absolutely devastatingly powerful if she's already interested. They will basically give you the Family Guy air traffic controller in the bedroom signal if they're interested enough already.
You don't even need an existing conversation you can just abruptly send it for no reason out of the blue and get plans. If they don't offer themselves on a silver platter do the progression steps from the previous section to try to get plans. If you don't think an immediate house pull is in the cards take a picture of something outside of your house to get her on a first date/casual date.
One thing I've never tried before but could be powerful is taking a picture of you being cozy watching a movie at home with wine, popcorn or whatever looks good. If she's interested she'll bite but that has far more risk than an image that has infinite plausible deniability so you've been warned.
Icebreakers
I wouldn't recommend Icebreakers when you already have better devices at your disposal but if you haven't reached out to a girl and the iron has cooled too much or was not necessarily ever warm to begin with but you're bored and spontaneous you can send a funny meme you absolutely know she'll respond to or say an eye-catching response you know she'll have to reply to. Examples:
"Hey X, what are you up to?"
"Long time no talk, staying out of trouble?"
"X, random question (follow up with random Y plan idea)"
"Hey X, I'm going to Y tonight/ tomorrow/ [insert day/date] are you doing anything that [time]?"
"Hey X, I just got Y want to come try it with me?"
YOLO: "Hey I've got nothing going on at the moment/atm you free?/want to hang out?"
Again, you would be surprised how many women are absolutely bored out of their mind or have nothing to do at the moment or later that day/week despite having so many lay options. Most men are too cowardly, socially awkward, or too socially unequipped to make non-thirsty, sponteous, fun plans with a woman, especially if you catch them at the right time.
I have pulled women I didn't even expect to say "yes" because I didn't give a shit and just YOLO'd the hang out text and they had a lack of dick going on.
Again, if they say no or give a dumb/busy reply they aren't interested or already have options they like more than you, let the conversation fade or quietly next them.
Phone Call
Okay, so you can actually call them, just be sure if they don't pick up you don't call again. You CAN leave a voice mail as long as your voice is confident and nonchalant and you just say "hey X give me a call back when you have the chance" just don't sound like it's anything serious or concerning. If you're a beginner definitely DO NOT leave a voicemail it will only hurt you.
When she picks up just get straight to the point, maybe ask how she's doing but that's it, no other filler. Same things as the above icebreaker suggestions, just be quick and to the point. Can't tell you how many women have responded to the random phone call plan suggestion, women are generally so bored in their lives.
And when they say "no" on the phone you actually can tell in their voice how either uninterested they are or they might eagerly or frantically reschedule because they are interested. Some times calls can be useful for getting better logistics down.
Tone and Voicing
Always, and I mean ALWAYS try to type how you'd normally talk. It's okay to have more brevity on text but don't speak differently or think you need to unlock some special way to text. Type like you talk. They'll pick up on if you're talking differently or putting more thought or formatting rather than your natural personal voicing.
This will also prevent you from overthinking what to say. Respond to and send what you'd ordinarily respond with in person, the same way you don't have infinite time in person. If you must you can always type a "let me think about that for a second" but don't sit there agonizing over and analyzing what to say.
As for text spacing, there really isn't a too soon if she's already interested, since you can't increase interest over text anyway. But if she's taking eons to respond don't be a circus monkey responding instantly after hours long delays. That's rarely a good sign anyway so don't be a clown and respond in a way that makes it look like you're ultra available to an uneager woman.
This is how you can actually employ texting to your advantage because of how phones offer a different medium of communication and you can't always close in person.
However, bottom line, you can't build attraction over text. You can build some missing or lacking rapport over text if you were missing some of that, but if she wasn't already interested texting is only going to lower your chances.
Don't be a sperg, texting is for logistics, there is no pussy password or magical RP wizardry to make a woman interested over text.
Caveat: she learns something about you on text she didn't know that makes her interested (don't count on it. EVER).
Jackmoter 2d ago
On dating apps, I have found the most effective opener to be "x, at this point we should just get married". It is especially good on apps like Hinge where you can say it in response to some weird photo they put up.
It immediately screens to see if they can take a joke, and the ones that agree and amplify are highly likely to give you their number.
The point I struggle with the most, you get their number, you say hey, they reply, you suggest a date, they say yes, you suggest a time and.... then it just falls through. It is a numbers game indeed, and most women will not put any effort into suggesting another time they are free.
Women my age seem to put absolutely zero effort in until they've met you. Once I meet them it's game over, but meeting them is the hardest part.
Asking for their schedule indeed gets you nowhere, asking when are you free, gets you nowhere. Being vague achieves nothing. Gotta be specific without sounding autistic.
What do you reckon about calling after you get a number from a dating app?
MrSupreme 3d ago
That spicy tequila sounds interesting, I had a scorpion tequila shot once,came in a small bottle with a tiny dead scorpion.Tasted like bugs but it had a charm to it-
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
I've probably pulled more with that tequila than I did making them dinner or any other one particular excuse (I've tried a lot of different plausible deniabilities) and I barely texted them anything
ballubhai 2d ago
I am sorry but texting is a losers game. If you cant get her to fuck you the same day or the next then its a abundance mindset issue not texting.
A hoe is gonna hoe with the right man regardless of his texting game. You could be alpha and send her a "Bitch come over so I can fuck your brains out" and have her sucking on your dick in the next hour or you could be a beta chump trying to set a date with her "Hey does Friday work for you? We can go for dinner and movie" which most likely means she has already put you on the provider list. And trust me that provider list is looooooong.
Overkill_Engine 2 2d ago
Yup, like I said on another guide:
If you are a hobbyless sperg with nothing going on for you in meatspace outside of creeping into DM's, get used to dates with Pamela Handerson. Peacocking is way more effective when you actually have some fucking feathers!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Yeah your guide was spot on this one was for spergs who need literal steps since we all need to pull by text at some point
Absolutely
I forgot to mention this in my guide do you care if i insert that thought in there as a section?
Overkill_Engine 2 2d ago
Have at it!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Thank you!