Alright buds, this isn't meant to be some amazing post with a novel idea or anything. In fact, it's a lot of things people already know. But I just wanted to share a few varied experiences with ya'll.
A little background about me to put things into context. I'm a below average dude in terms of social skill(not looks) who gets pussy from time to time from social circles, or new chicks that I meet from friends of friends, before I discovered TRP. When tinder came out I killed it. Maybe not in the top 1% but I was averaging 20 matches a day(tinder has dried since then, I only get ~ 5 a day now) from fatties to 8s, and my text game and photos on dating sites is strong, every few months I'd manage to get an HB6 to meet up and on a 1 on 1 interaction I'm pretty good, so I usually fuck her on the first date, given these chicks are on there to fuck anyway. I would say I'm decent looking, because I have always acted pretty beta since high school, but regardless put up a good facade and first impression when I meet new people and manage to get lays here and there.
But let's get back on topic: My first social circle lay ever was from a cuban chick that went to my high school that I never talked to, but met her at a party through a friend. I was preselected because the cuban chick's friend really liked me and invited me to a few parties, but I don't like Asian girls so I never fucked with her(don't ask me why). Anyway, after meeting me once, cuban chick invited me over the very next weekend because her parents weren't home, sucked me off and she did some weird pussy rubbing thing on my dick to get me off because she didn't like penetration(weird as shit I know). I was a little beta so I never pushed for penetration and did what she liked.
After a few weeks of that, was when tinder came out. For a long time all I did was bang tinder chicks. Usually chicks I don't know or know any of my friends. So they weren't connected to my social circle. I even got into a few relationships from them, and the ones I did want to date were pretty good(HB7.5 latina, believe my rating if u want or not and an HB8 single mother(lucky I didn't stick with her because 1 month after I cheated on her and banged another chick and told her about it, she got engaged to some other dude almost immediately)).
Why tell you all this? Because I now want to improve my social circle game that I put off for so long, and since tinder is dying down from popularity. Past few months I started trying to meet new people through old friends, and have been texting 2 girls. One of them, after talking to her for awhile, immediately started texting people she knew and asking them "Who's [Russe1lWestbrook]?" and other questions about who I am and what I do. And they told me about her asking them about me. This is actually really fucking surprising and I did not know these bitches actually are so open to asking people in their social circle who the dude she's talking to is BEFORE we even meet up. She is literally gauging my SMV from her social circle. The other one? went through my facebook and randomly texts me a really old photo from when I was in fucking high school and said "omg you look so cute here." Photo is like from 2009 and its 2017, and I have thousands of photos. I'm new to this social circle thing and I can't believe the extent to which these girls research guys they are planning to date or fuck.
Anyway, on another few small notes I know a friend who have been straight rejected after the girl already gave him her phone number after looking up seeing that his facebook makes him look like he is a loser, with no pics with friends, mutual friends with her, or anything showing high value, and weird webcam depressing looking profile pics. I also know an extremely ugly looking dude who has a hot ass girlfriend, because he is hilarious and have developed his social standing through about a decade. Dude is not even an alpha, but just everyone knows and loves him because he has an amazing sense of humor.
What did I get from all this? I know I haven't have a ton of field data points to go off by, but I have a feeling social circle game is alot deeper than we all think. They will ask just about anyone they know about you and investigate all through your social media in a day. I had less problem with chicks I don't know. So my conclusion? If you are known as a fucking loser already in your town or social niche, find new social groups because you won't succeed with old ones. You have a better impression with chicks who have no idea who you are and no way to find out through mutual friends, than chicks who have friends that know you(if you're a loser).
This was is my first post so I apologize if its shit and didn't help anyone.
ShadowOfAnIdea 7y ago
Another example of how the best way to fuck hotter girls is by improving your life.
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You know the saying you are the average of your 5 closest friends? Well that's true for SMV as well, and if you take the average of their girlfriends that's likely what your expectations are unless you're the alpha of the pack
I will strongly advise against finding friends you consider high SMV for the sole reason of joining them like the nerd following around the popular kids. Improve yourself, and your social circle will improve naturally
Imperius__Rex 7y ago
I am in many different social circles and the network I built has been like a spider web for catching plates. I have a big presence on Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat, and not like a douchebag I'm actually a real big weirdo but people love it. (You do you and people will be drawn to that.)
Plates come out of nowhere asking to be fucked because my social presence alone spun the hamster. Before TRP I was super confused by this and it depressed me. My friends would be jealous and I just wanted love and not sluts who would just fuck anyone. Little did I know that these women were doing social media background checks and cross checking with mutual friends. I wasn't just a rando, I was their catch. Few things have gotten me more play than my reputation. (Law of Power #5)
PS This is a great method for attaining plates, but don't use this as an excuse to game passively only. It's fun to have women chasing for a change, but you will go nowhere if you don't hone your skills with active game.
russe1lwestbrook 7y ago
Any tangible advice you have on building your social circle? Right now I'm still in school so its not too bad, but I'm in graduate school and the chicks are 22-30. I want a younger range than girls approaching the wall but that's besides the point.
What have you done to build your social circles? Invite people out alot? Go to their events? Proactively approach new friends of friends and ask them to come hang out with you? And did you do it over the course of 5-10 years or can it be done more quickly?
Imperius__Rex 7y ago
You would be surprised just how fast you can mesh with a social circle. Now building a large framework just depends on how much time you can commit. Really as long as you are fun people will want to have you around. It helps if you share a common interest, of course. I tend to have different circles for my different interests. I just find people I like and spend time with them having fun. People want cool friends and they want to be happy. It's way easier than getting laid and its not too different. In the beginning its easy to discourage yourself but its simple. But once you are in at least once cirlce its easy to use connections to swing from one to another. It's basic social networking really. Going out in public to bars and parties with friends is what helped the most. But you can also find one person in a group to hang out with alone, and then they will help you assimilate. All of your examples are good. Above all else you have to put yourself out there and just do it. You'd be surprised how much you miss just not looking. And the more practice you get the better you get.
If you don't think you can make friends because you present no value : A. work on making yourself valuable or B. take time to realise the value you have.
Hector_Castillo 7y ago
Fuck yeah, brother. You're off to a good start with undestanding social circle game. My journey began in college, so social circle is my background. Became the "King" of my campus.
Reputation is a tool. It might very poorly reflect who you actually are, but what people say about you is everything.
You can escape the recon scouting by girls if you cold approach or don't show your social media.
With girls already in your social media circle, I would advise cutting down your profile to a handful of pictures, rarely post, and just "like" or share stuff. Get a girl to like or comment on something then open her. Great way to use Insta/FB/Snap.
How good of friends are you with this dude who has the amazing sense of humor? he's a good dude to associate with. Who you associate with defines who you are.
russe1lwestbrook 7y ago
Thanks for the social media tip. I've been wondering if I should just deactivate it and lay low for a year(social media monk mode lol) because I've been posting alot of dumb memes that gets like 5 likes from the same losers, and my profile looks low SMV rn. Nothing shows that I'm having fun doing cool things or hanging out with a group of friends or chicks. What's your advice?
The guy with the sense of humor is a church friend, I stay in touch with him, we've been friends for 15 years so I'm solid with the guy. Thing is I'm probably one guy out of his 10 social circles, he has alot of close friends who respect him from other circles I don't even know about.
Hector_Castillo 7y ago
No problem, brotha.
I'm pretty "fuck it" with my Facebook and still get hot girls messaging me. My secret is that I post really savage, anti-PC shit. It doesn't get a lot of likes, but it gets attention (people message me about it privately and even tell me they want to like it, but can't for reputation reasons).
Girls know this. But when I do post something nice and PC? Tons of likes, and I keep my friends list small. I remove bad leads (girls) and losers (guys). Only people I consider important, for the most part.
I'd say start doing cool things :) I travel a lot and am somewhat politically involved (I post a lot of Pro-Trump shit), so I'm always involved in something. Plus I'm a writer so I post about that, too.
Have an exciting life and posting exciting stuff is natural.
I'd say try and get closer to this guy. Provide him value. Invite him out to shit, pay for dinner, buy him shots, etc. Or if you're slick, just be his friend so you don't have to be a friend-provider to give value. You'll absorb his traits by osmosis and even can pick his brain from time to time (but not too much; naturals hate when dudes ask too many questions. They like to keep their strategies secret).
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russe1lwestbrook 7y ago
That's pretty insane that you mention that, because there is a guy who knows me(I would consider him one of my best friends but is actually an enemy, although I haven't expressed my distaste for him). He is exactly as you described. I used to be the 2nd tier emotionally punching bag in our group when our fat friend wasn't around, and in front of girls he would introduce me as "this is our gay friend" and proceed to start making fun of me. Recently I made enough money to buy a new luxury car, and I mentioned it to him. I had always driven old cars and this dude gives me "advice" to stick with an old reliable car even though I can actually afford to buy and maintain a nice new one. I swear just like TRP says your closest friends are enemies that do not want you to be better than them in any way.
aanarchist 7y ago
i don't like women that gauge their attraction based on what other people think, it's slave mentality it means she doesn't think for herself. people so deeply entrenched in slave think are impossible to have a good time with except by fucking with them, it's like playing with a limited selection of legos there's just little gain in it, and all you're doing is feeding her your valuable time and energy getting pretty much nothing in return. gotta set higher standards for women if you want things to get better. otherwise good luck with being a beta slave for the rest of your life taking the scraps your government feeds you.
theShowstealer 7y ago
Very tough! Alpha dogs! Arooooooo!