November 17, 2021
A couple of days ago I put up this post entitled Don't Help Women: This Advice Might Just Save Your Life. I told the story of Michael Bankston, a well meaning but misguided man who tried to play White Knight and got murdered for it. His life was stolen from him because he tried to "help" a woman being brutalized by her punk criminal boyfriend. Mr. Bankston didn't recognize that said woman wanted to be there and picked that punk criminal all by her bad self. Unfortunately, he paid for that misjudgment with his life.
I pointed out in my article that men should stop "helping" women because women don't want help. Women fought for the right to fuck whoever they want. Women said they were "strong independent women", so we should let them suffer the consequences of "strength and independence" - one of which is that when you fuck up or it doesn't go well for you, you own it, you fess up to it, and you live with the fallout.
The usual hue and cry rose up from women and from their sycophants: "WTF is wrong with you! Our society is falling apart! We have to do something! You can at least call the police! It's your DUTY to defend women!"
Nothing's wrong. I don't care that society is disintegrating. No, I don't have to do anything. No, I don't have to call the police in defense of others. And no, I have no duty to defend anyone.
We are tired of helping women and then getting shit on for it. We're tired of their ungrateful entitled attitudes. We're tired of women demanding that any man just leap to any woman's aid, whenever that woman feels like she needs it. We're tired of them treating us like public utilities they can simply use whenever they feel like it or they need us. We're tired of the shaming, the insults, the guilt trips, the arguing, the contentiousness, the fraud, the deceit, the entitlement, and the ingratitude.
I personally am tired of helping women at work or out in public and then not getting even so much as a "thanks" in return. I personally am tired of women thinking they can summon me at their option to move this, lift that, carry this, fix that, or solve the other problem, merely because I am a man and I happen to be in the vicinity.
I've stopped helping women. If I'm not related to them or banging them, or getting paid for it, they get nothing from me - not even if it will not inconvenience me to help them. They're "strong and independent" - let them move it, lift it, carry it, fix it, or solve it themselves. I won't even so much as call police or others to help them. They can stop posting their idiotic videos on TikTok for 30 seconds and call police. They can close out of Tinder for a minute and call Triple A. They can fix their own flat tires, lift their own suitcases on commercial flights, and do their own work.
I'm also not putting myself in harm's way for any woman I'm not related to or banging. They picked that punkass abusive boyfriend. They sure love fucking him. So when he shows his true colors, they can deal with that themselves. When he starts smacking her around in public, she can deal with that herself and figure her own way out of that mess. They got themselves into those situations because that's what they wanted. They can get themselves out of it, on their time, their dimes, and their own asses.
It's not going to be my ass on the line when Mr. Thugnificent decides to get fistalicious with his flavor of the month. She can deal with that herself- after all, she's "strong and independent". I don't have time to deal with her mess. I'm on my way to make bank, or relax, or do my own thing for myself and mine. She's got Thugalicious smacking her around? That's her problem.
Why should I intervene? Will I get a "thanks"? Will I get anything for my trouble? No. I'll get yelled at or beaten myself. Or I'll get robbed. Or I might end up like Michael Bankston, who no one will remember and will be forgotten by Christmas. And then I'll just get scolded that "it's your duty" and "you're supposed to help" and "you are supposed to call the police" and "you're a man and she's a woman and it's just every man's duty to help women all the time everywhere".
Well, I'm not doing it. I'm not even going to so much as call the police to intervene for you. Solve your own problems, "Strong and Independent women". I'm tired of your ingratitude, your entitlement, and your abuse. Take care of it yourself. Because we men are done.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
The reactions on feminist and bloopie subs to your original post about the late Mr. Bankston fucking prove that most women (and sadly, some men) view men as mere disposable objects, rather than living people with their own needs, wants, and rights.
They can all go fuck themselves.
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
Was there other reaction from feminists and bloopies? Where? I'd love to read the pearl clutching.
I already know what they said. Inb4
"You don't want thanks for helping. You want your pee pee touched."
"The only reason you won't help is because girls won't suck your dick afterwards."
"You won't help a woman who's getting beaten up in public? Pussy. Coward."
"Shame on you!"
"It's your DUTY!"
"You're men. You're bigger and stronger. If a woman needs help, you are required to help her."
Sure, I'll take a blowie. But really, I'd really rather she would just say "thank you for your help" and then I can be on my way.
I'm not a public utility. I do not exist for the sole purpose of serving women. I'm not here to serve women. I'm here to serve ME and take care of me and mine. If you're not one of mine, I owe you exactly jack shit.
Not intervening in a domestic violence situation isn't cowardice, it's self-preservation for those who need me and depend on me. I need to stay alive for me and mine. Are you one of mine? Are you fucking me? Are you related to me? Are you paying me? No? Then fuck off.
You're strong and independent - take care of it yourself. You got yourself into it with Mr. Thugnificent; you can get yourself out.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
I'll say it here.
Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOWBan/comments/quu149/dont_help_women_from_domestic_abuse_because_they/
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marriageisntworthit/comments/quvsjz/mgtowban_women_think_other_men_need_to_come_to/
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
That poster is banned from our sub.
Search his name in the modmail. Dude was trying to AMOG as well as hurl insults in what was supposedly an appeal.
That's a good post from him, however.
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
I wouldn't say "she deserves it". I'd say she put herself in that situation. She chose the shitbag, KNOWING he was a shitbag. You take the good with the bad. He's hot and fun and blows her back out good. He's also violent and dangerous. He got violent and dangerous. Take the good with the bad. Take the consequences of your choices.
That's not my problem.
It's all fun and games with Thugnificent, until Thuggy gets violent. OK.
That's not my problem.
It's not "don't help women getting brutalized because they deserve to get brutalized." It's "don't help women getting brutalized, because it's not my problem".
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
And also "don't help them because I can fucking get killed for doing so".
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
So from looking at AHS and MGTOWBan and these other antimanosphere anti-man subreddits, I see what's going on here. They're talking past us and to some extent we're talking past them.
I'm not saying this woman deserves to get the shit kicked out of her. I'm not saying she deserves to get brutalized or beaten.
I am saying that her getting brutalized or beaten were foreseeable consequences of her choices.
I am saying that she chose the men she fucks, and she takes the good with the bad.
I am not saying she "deserves" these consequences. I am saying that these consequences were foreseeable and avoidable.
I am saying that it was not Michael Bankston's responsibility to relieve her from those consequences.
I am saying it was the woman's responsibility to deal with the consequences herself and figure out ways to get herself out of them.
These subreddits say "We are NOT saying that men are obligated to help women", but well, yes, they ARE saying that. They are basically saying that when a woman is in peril, it's men's job to save them from it. It's men's job to "call the police". It's men's job to "not be violent". Well, fuckity fuck. Are you women strong and independent, or not? Are you adults who can make your own choices and accept all the consequences, or not?
These subreddits claim we are saying things we're not saying. They claim we're saying "It's this woman's fault that her boyfriend murdered Michael Bankston". No, I did not say that. I never once blamed this woman for Michael Bankston's death. What I did say was that she chose this guy. What I did say was that she should be required to accept the consequences of her choices without male intervention. What I did say was that Michael Bankston, not she, took the consequences of this woman's choices.
Michael Bankston died for nothing. Other men should take this as an object lesson and should not intervene for women they don't even know.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
Those bloopie subs just lie. They don't misunderstand. They fucking lie.
sevencarrots77 3y ago
A common phrase from feminists is "You're not entitled to our labor".
"Don't help women" is the corollary to that.
Funny, though, how furious women get when the latter is spoken or enacted. Remember the Philadelphia train rape from a few weeks ago? There was feminist screeching for miles about how men are scum because they didn't intervene. Sweeties, you're not entitled to our labor.
Besides, women wouldn't help you.
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
Women: "You're not entitled to sex."
Men: "OK. You're not entitled to my money, labor, time, attention, or resources. You're not entitled to protection or defense from me."
Women: SEXIST!! MISOGYNIST!! He's being a big MEANIE PANTS!
_bryan 3y ago
These same women think Kyle Rittenhouse is guilty. I'm never helping a single one of them.
Chadfish 3y ago
A solution seems simple enough: when a woman sees another woman in need, that woman can resolve it. She can intervene, call the cops, etc. When a man is in trouble, a man will help.
Now we can have a civilized society where people help each other. How could you get more equality than that?