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Loneliness-inc Mod 2y ago Stickied
Here's the thing. Humans are either retarded animals who are slaves to their biological drives and instincts or we have the ability to make rational choices and take responsibility for our lives.
If you think that humans are retarded animals who lack the ability to make choices. If you think that humans are complete slaves to biology - you cannot blame women for their shitty choices, nor can you demand of men to take responsibility for anything either.
If this is you - you're stupid. Go away. This place isn't for you. There's no point in having a discussion about the dynamics between men and women, if we are slaves to our biological drives. Because we can't choose otherwise anyway.
But if you think that people have the ability to make choices, you must necessarily also think that we are responsible for the choices we make or fail to make.
Meaning, if we're successful in life - that's to our credit. Because we made wise choices. If we fail in life - that too is our own doing. Biological drives are not a valid excuse.
People seem to readily understand this regarding men. When a man fucks up his life, everyone is quick to hold him responsible and to tell him to man up and do better.
But when it comes to women, people - both men and women - come up with a litany of excuses for why it isn't her fault.
What huMAN is essentially saying here (in other words) is that civilized society requires us to rule over our biological instincts. That we take responsibility and not be slaves to our biological drives.
(How to accomplish this and what methods are and aren't feasible or realistic, is a whole other discussion. The general idea is that we don't need to blindly follow our biological drives like retarded animals).
So when it comes to the question of why women go for badbois or why women engage in any other destructive behaviors - it's important to understand the biological drivers behind their choices.
But that should never be an excuse to let them off the hook of responsibility.
This is one of many reasons why men are walking away from women. Because men don't want to be the only responsible adult in the room. We don't want to be in relationships with retarded animals who can't be responsible for their life choices.
Women, if you want to have adult relationships, you need to put on your big girl panties and pull yourselves up by your bra straps. You need to demonstrate that you can act like adults.
The overwhelming majority of you have failed miserably at this.
Enjoy your cats, boxed wine and vibrating dildos.
Cheers!
polishknight Endorsed 2y ago
This video, and your comment, illustrates a theory I've had for about a year or so: That the socio-biological drive of women choosing mates, whether providers or bad boys, was largely a brief period of human existence both in the dawn of civilization and now. For the rest of the time, society (usually The Patriarchy) picked whom women mated with.
To try to explain women’s sexual behavior and mental makeup requires observing almost lab-like conditions: Hyper-chivalrous patronage of women, affirmative action, welfare, the courts, and western nations largely immune from conflict stress. It’s artificial and the western society strains to survive largely destroying itself via ethnic replacement and economic stagnation.
In this petri dish, women are like child actors, or rich kids whose daddy owns the police, courts, and media and spoil her incessantly. Paths to adulthood, particularly for men, are based upon earning acceptance. Such as “boy” used pejoratively where men have to justify their adulthood and even huMANity. We must be above average in looks (which we can’t help) but also literally earn a living and support a family. We are expected to do this on our own while being told how “privileged” we are. We understand what happens if we fail based upon the line given to men who ask for sympathy or criticize the system “Who Hurt You? Tee tee!” If you’re down on the ground, it’s like being in a mosh pit. It’s an excessive rite-of-passage but nonetheless, it at least reminds us that adulthood is something we have to WORK at.
While being a “woman” merely means reaching a certain age, getting voting rights handed to her, and if she doesn’t want to support herself, she can exploit a child to collect welfare benefits and raise it in squalor. Calling a woman “girl” is a compliment since women today need only offer looks and “girls” are young. Heck, even calling a woman “mature” nowadays is considered an insult which is a pity because figuring out how women “maturing” is something men should ponder repeatedly.
Mature women live up to their word as mature men do. They learn from their mistakes and change their actions. They check their emotions rather than act upon them. They see themselves as a part of the world rather than one that the world revolves around their needs. Most importantly: They know how to put their own needs on hold to help others such as their children and spouse when needed. Single mothers gripe/brag “my children are my world!” is a scary statement because the children are more dependent than she is hence she can control and dominate them rather than vice versa. For adults, the “world” is a HUGE, wondrous, and dangerous place that requires continual personal ego checks.
When my 6 year old girl acts like a brat, I’m grateful I have the option to (responsibly) check her behavior by putting her for timeout, taking away toys, and even a spanking if necessary. Men cannot do this with “women” who act like girls. Well, sort of. I find it funny that my use of the “silent treatment” works better on them than vice-versa.