Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago Stickied
Men want women, women NEED men.
Women are human beings, men are human doings.
In nature, women cannot survive on their own. They need a man for their basic survival. Men OTOH, can survive on their own. They don't need a woman for anything. They want a woman for love, sex and to build a family.
In today's western world of modernity, it may sometimes not appear to be so. It may appear that women are self sufficient and a very small percentage of women truly are. However, if you look closely at the true dynamics, you'll see that this is still the case for the overwhelming majority of people. That men want women and women need men. Demonstrating this point can take up an entire post, so I'll leave it out of this discussion.
As a result of these dynamics:
Men want to be needed, women need to be wanted.
To women, a man who needs her is a turnoff. Because that's the female role. It's repulsive to her when he needs her in any way - even legitimate ways. She wants a man who wants - but does not need - her.
She assumes that he too, ought to be wanted ,but not needed. This is projection and it ruins her relationship value.
A man needs to feel like the head, the leader, the owner, the boss, the final say, the one who his wife and children look up to, the man who is NEEDED!
When a man is not needed, he feels useless and redundant. The relationship rots from there.
Many feminist men and women have tried to negate this "old fashioned, sexist" dynamic. Some have succeeded, most have not. Because this is human nature.
When a woman says "I'm strong and independent and I don't need no man", it's repulsive, isn't it... Now you know why.
Listen to what this bitch is saying. Her life is perfect and complete. She doesn't need anything. She just wants a man.
She's projecting masculinity and that's disgusting to men.
Cheers!
Scorpion69_ 2y ago
Well said. Ive been thinking about this exact same subject for the past days, and reading this completed my train of thought and made it easier to understand.
Id really appreciate it if u could answer one question:
Why does feminism exist?
It makes both males and females unhappy, and it fucks society up. Some say that feminism is a shit test, and others say it is a projection of their real needs. I agree with both of em, but these arent conclusive answers.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
It's my theory that feminism is merely an inverted rebranding of chivalrous patronage for women which was a virtue signaling luxury for the nobility. Back about 400 years ago, the average peasant didn't have the luxury to indulge a spoiled wife so for the leisure classes, it was sort of like a fashion statement. Consider the 1950's housewife that many regard as "traditional" sitting at home surrounded by servants and labor saving devices by a "lucky" man to provide for her. Most working class men couldn't afford that so they were shamed "Your wife WORKS!?!? You must not be a very good provider then!"
The ultimate in luxury for upper class women who had tons of spare time to gripe about how oppressed they were was to demand so-called equality while, of course, allowing men the "privilege" to still support them. This is the modern thinking of most of them. Ultra successful men truly can afford this and I know a few of them in corporate America who spouted off feminist platitudes while being ruthless in business to provide for that delusion.
Feminism, like western chivalry, is a luxury of class and social affluence but then again, so is obesity, addiction to luxury goods, materialism, etc. It's also centuries old and seemingly a necessary institution.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago
Because women desired autonomy. To have authority over their own lives.
They demanded more rights from their men. The men thought that the women would also become self sufficient. That they'd take responsibility for themselves. This is why they gave rights to women.
Up until industrialization, life was really difficult. Men had to take responsibility for their women and women had to submit to the authority of their men. There was no other choice. It's only as life got easier, that we have the luxury of being able to afford the very expensive larp that is feminism.
You see that now, but most people didn't see this 100+ years ago. They thought that everyone would be happier with feminism.
Eventually, people actually bought into the narratives. Now it's ideological and much more difficult to turn back without a major catastrophe.
As to the response from @Problematic_Browser who said:
This is patently false. This is rookie red pill thinking.
Yes, it's true that ugly women clamor for feminism. Obviously.
But it isn't true that pretty women aren't feminists. This is a big mistake that might be very costly to you.
Every woman is a feminist. Every last one. Because feminism is merely female nature and female self interest, codified into law and culture.
Ask the most traditional "anti feminist" woman, which rights she'd be willing to give up.
The answer is none.
They want traditional men who will take traditional responsibility. They do not want to give up the authority that feminism gave them.
There are no red pill women.
There are no anti feminist women.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Feminism is an escape for unfeminine women. Do you hear pretty, attractive, desirable women out here fighting for feminist goals? No. They're busy soaking up the perks of "tHe PaTrIarChY".
Why has feminism succeeded? Two things:
The number of undesirable women has skyrocketed because, frankly, it's easier to be fat and lazy than it is to actually put in the effort to be feminine and cooperative
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
She has become masculine. Most women do and then they wonder why they can't find a masculine man. Masculine men are not attracted to masculine women. A masculine woman can only get a feminine man.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Rule 1 - we don't shame men here.
Al_Walter_Chadwick 2y ago
It's the usual story. Her mom raised her to be a Strong, Independent Woman. Since knowing how to cook or otherwise take care of a home would completely undermine her strength and, somehow, make her dependent on a man, Strong, Independent Women were not only never taught anything related to cooking, cleaning, doing laundry etc, but many times even were actively discouraged from doing such things or having any interests in those directions.
Basically, the explicit goal was to produce something akin to the common caricature of the male basement dweller whose mom had always taken care of everything for them and never learned to do anything for themselves.
At most, these Strong, Independent Women were allowed to do mostly useless activities, like making desserts and baking cakes. See also: How come most women these days outweigh line backers?
It was also drilled into them that it was bad, bad, bad to do any household tasks "for a man", that it would instantly transform her into weak slave and a disgrace to women everywhere.
The funny other side of this is that most mothers, in a blow for "equality", would start offloading house care and cooking tasks to their male offspring pretty much as early as they could handle the tasks, so that by the time they were in their teens, they pretty much handled all their own laundry, and possibly some or all of the rest of the family's (Often single mom + siblings.), and similarly with other household tasks, often including cooking at least a couple days a week.
So in the end, we now have many young adult women who do not know how to take care of themselves, either fully or partially, and many young adult men who are perfectly comfortable and capable of taking care themselves and their homes.
Now add that even in traditional societies, while men typically want women (for love, sex, companionship), women usually need men (to feel/be safe, to provide for basic needs like food, shelter etc, for other psychological needs).
Except now, these Strong, Independent Women also "need" men to not keep eating garbage and to not live in a freaking dump. Meanwhile, for the men, an already skewed deal has gotten substantially worse, where if he moves in with a woman, rather than offloading some of the household tasks he used to do for himself by sharing them with his live-in partner, they almost doubled since he now needs to do them for the both of them.
Of course, he is still expected to handle all the "manly" tasks and responsibilities, because no matter how equal and independent a woman is, when the bill is due or there's hard work that needs to be done, the vast majority of women all of a sudden turn really traditional and have no clue what you're talking about, when you mention equality or their strength and independence.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
This applies on multiple levels other than domestic chores - modern empowered womyn expect a man to just show up on demand and be both halves of the relationship while she reaps the bennies.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
My ex used to get mad when I'd come home and expect dinner to be ready. One time she got mad and called me lazy, and I almost short circuited.
I just worked 12 hours today, drove over 150 miles, and you're calling me lazy for wanting my dinner to be ready and to have a couple of hours to relax before I go to bed and do it again tomorrow?
Now she's working for a living and I'm not busting my ass supporting her. Feels good.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
If you listen to them talk, even the more “reasonable” ones seem to expect that a relationship will be neutral in terms of burden at worst, and a benefit at best. That their boyfriend will allow them to save all sorts of money, lessen their burden of chores, and increase their social life.
Men know full well that there’s a cost to being in a relationship. Take, for example, time with my girlfriend. She’ll want to go have “fun” on weekends. Even if they want to go “50/50”, what used to be girls night out for her is now just a night out with her boyfriend. For you, it’s going from kicking back and watching sports to paying for stuff. And if you’re paying 100% of fun costs, watch out.
People used to understand that if the man was shouldering most of the burden around funding and maintaining a household, that a woman should be making his life easier in other ways.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
They basically expect men to be slaves is the shorthand version. Mistress will deign to bestow upon him some pussy if he's been an especially pleasing slave. Maybe.
DextroShade 2y ago
Getting older and more desperate but somehow I know that settling down with Joe Shmoe who is 5'10" and makes $50,000 a year is completely out of the question for her. My MIL is the same way and she is 60. That they would choose to die alone over being with a regular dude shows both how entitled they are and how little they think of us. In the near future when there a lot these women are too old and wretched for even regular guys and are thus forced into the gutter because their OF money has been long spent and their bullshit pyramid scheme "business" failed to make them rich I will laugh at them.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
To be fair, most of us would rather die alone versus be with an “average” woman, too. Difference is, we generally admit when the women we want are out of our price range. Women are out here, mid 50’s, looking like Gollum, competing with women 20-30 years younger for the same men, and are shocked when said men don’t see them as the prize.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
(women mid 50's looking like gollum), LMAO
Very true though, most women my age, lazy, fat and huge entitled mentality. They think they "deserve" much better than reality, and end up with cats.
Most are feminist and it just goes along with all those teachings. But they haven't figured out it's not getting them what they want and why are they not happy? But they aren't gonna change
DextroShade 2y ago
Yes, but only because the average woman now weighs more than the average man. Most regular guys would be fine with a woman who has a plain face but is at a healthy weight and is feminine. In previous generations this was the majority of women, now they are rare thanks to the mind-virus known as feminism.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I tell all my female associates that the reason they aren't getting better men is because they don't do the things that men want, to include losing weight.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
ok, wait. I believe you tell them they don't do things men want, but I don't believe you tell them to lose weight. Girls go physcho with that shit
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Oh I absolutely do.
I don't give a fuck if they like it. The most they can do is socially shame me, and I'm already called a "mysogynist".
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
careful,
they can socially shame you and more. If you are a professional, it could get back to your employer/etc. In general, the more you have, the more careful you need to be.
As I've got older, and accumulated more, I just keep more of it to myself, sit back and smile at the situation typically. ;)
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Must be nice to be tall haha. I know that I’m forever limited on the basis of being 5’7”.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I'd be lying if I said it wasn't good.
But I go to the wall for my short bros when these skets try to shame y'all.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
"Again"?! Why didn't you hold onto him when you had him the first time?
Do you only care that you're single because of everyone else not being single?
Such herd mentality.
Combining this with your use of the word "again", it seems to me that you regret being foolish enough to have let someone go.
Cry me a fucking river.
@moorekom or @goodmansaysfuckyou, whichever of you sees this first, can you x-post it to that other platform? Thaaaaaaanks!
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
Posted on the socialist shit storm showcase.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
Thx bud
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Because hawt girls think they'll be hawt forever. They treat men as disposable because, usually, there is always the next one in queue waiting to shoot his shot.
The problem is that there comes a hard and abrupt end to this, like the last Kleenex in a box. When the wall hits, the DMs dry up, the texts stop getting returned, the Tinder matches get lower and lower quality and then one day... It's over.
Men understand that every relationship may be their last and move accordingly, only treating sexually promiscuous women as if they're disposable. Women see men as disposable regardless of their quality or intentions. Worse, the more honorable a man is, the more he's seen as disposable.
But you can't tell these broads nothing.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
(men understand that every relationship may be their last and move accordingly)
I think it should be, men understand that every relationship "won't" last and move accordingly
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2y ago
Bold to assume she is or was hot to begin with
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 2y ago
This whole diatribe about woe-is-me but nothing about how huge she is or who did the dumping (and why). Been searching for the vagina tingles and can't locate a man who make that twat vibrate AND will sign the papers. Bitch be stupid.
It's shit like this that make me wonder...if we (most) choose to mutilate male babies' genitals at birth, then why don't we tattoo a
sellget married by date on little girls? They apparently aren't capable of figuring it out on their own.Scorpion69_ 2y ago
Its funny because for a woman, finding the best male possible (alpha buxx) and having kids with him is her one and only real purpose in life but, still, these chicks are unable to do this simple task.
The natural drive we men have for wanting sex, its the same or at least similar to the drive women have for wanting commitment. Therefore, these chicks must have an IQ of 80. Its like a guy who is unable to have sex. Female incels. Complete retards
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
They certainly aren't celibate, so the term "incel" doesn't work.
The female equivalent is an inspin (involuntary spinster).
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago
Thanks for the shout-out. I see that it's been three years since I coined the word "inspin," and while it's gotten some traction it's a shame that it hasn't entered the wider lexicon. It's even unusual to see it used within manosphere fora.
It's a testament to how thoroughly the word "incel" has morphed from its actual meaning into a proxy for "People who criticize any aspect of current year relationship dynamics," that it's even used to describe people who can get sex more easily than they can order pizza (which includes any woman under the age of 70).
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
It's a great word.
And yeah, the misuse of words without regard to what they actually mean really annoys me, too.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Personally, I think that the word spinster has enough bite in it and the word involuntary can be spun in a sympathetic manner.
That said, I think the sub should be moved to forums and it should be opened back up.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I have as much sympathy for inspins as they have for incels.
I have LESS. The incel is usually a victim of a combination of bad luck and skewed standards. The inspin is a victim of her own hypergamy.
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 2y ago
"I'm noticing more and more of my friends are either married, engaged, or in long term relationships, and I'm one of the last single ones."
And, when she was in a relationship, she wanted to be single because she was missing out on partying and being dicked down with her friends. Now they've settled down and she's feeling left out.
Women don't want relationships, they want status. Bottom line: Never get into a relationship and now it's more important than ever that you protect yourself by either going monk mode or bringing your own condoms to casual encounters and making sure you dispose of those condoms in places/ways you can't be sperm jacked.
AurelianWay Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
When all her friends start divorcing their husbands I'm sure she will follow along as well. These women are like the borg collective. Sorry ladies but a lot more men are realizing that resistance isn't futile.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
yup, after the kids are in school, the bedroom will die and she'll be looking elsewhere for tingles. The dad is viewed as an income source and child care assistant. Time to find some "fun" guy. Interesting how it works out that way for many marriages
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
After years of fucking above her weight class (this is evident by none of them putting a ring on it) her only chance is to settle HARD.
And even that approach is fraught with peril as her ego is calibrated to getting dicked by far hotter men than she can get to commit, and she will be almost guaranteed to resent the poor schmuck she ropes in or outright cheat on or abuse him.
And more and more men are figuring out what a shit deal being the cock of Last Resort is and will avoid women like this entirely.
Cope and seethe roasties, it's your fault you chose to waste your best years on the worst possible men.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
yup, the highest risk girls in a relationship. The Casual sex , the more they've had, with higher guys, she's messed up.
She's even telegraphing it in her view. (Even If I don't feel the "spark" after a few dates, I'll give it a try). She's looking for a Provider, willing to settle for a beta guy, a few notches down from a guy she's been hooking up with and getting pumped n dumped by.
She's been dumped a lot and admits it. Damage control
She wants a safe guy to have kids with , she'll then create a dead bedroom, divorce him and continue with hook ups , with hot guys
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I think maybe like 30 years ago, women could be very adept at turning on the charm, virtue signaling "I'm a reformed tradwife now, come get me betas". And most of them would fall for it and wife them up (often not knowing the trap they were walking into).
The difference now is that they can't turn on that charm. They have no idea what men want, what they are looking for, and none of the skills that might make them a desirable wife. I don't even think most women can fake it now.
I think most of us could write a female profile in five minutes that would have betas crawling out of the woodwork. The bar is so pitifully low, yet most girls can't be bothered.
reignoferror00 2y ago
Now most women aren't adept at turning on the charm because they have no charm. They have attitude and entitlement in abundance but lack ANY charm. They double down on the attitude and entitlement I'd say even when their looks have faded - but is likely more true to say ESPECIALLY when their looks have faded. They are like the former feature at the strip bar who walked around with a stick up her ass relying solely on looks, and when those are on the downturn not bothering to up her game in other ways (with a good engaging stage show or a half decent lap dance). God knows it is a very rare one of them is at all like your grandmother or even mother as far as performing any domestic tasks, much less in at least making an effort at showing any sort of respect or gratitude for anything ever.
All this one is looking for is blatantly obvious in her post. She wants "the tingles" plus a guy with enough money to up her lifestyle - and that is it, that is all. She's not going to get a wide on for the type of guy interested in her that has the $, and anyone that gives her the tingles and will give her the time of day will be some deadbeat thug whole will suck her as dry (financially) as much as she used to literally back in her high school days.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
The women who LARPed as traditional are these women’s mom’s. It’s not that they don’t care about what a man wants, it’s that they don’t even know. Because their moms weren’t in position to teach them.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Copypasta.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago
The women in that age bracket have spent their entire lives being told that the worse possible betrayal they can commit is against themselves by giving a man what he wants. They have no problem demanding that men give women what they want, but it doesn't go the other way because PaTrIaRhCy... or something.
I think I just had an epiphany: I've always known that the dynamic changed from when I was in the market (I married when Ronald Reagan was the president), and today. Those were wild times: we didn't have OLD or Tinder back then, but I lived through the height of the Sexual Revolution - after Woodstock and before AIDS and herpes. I've said before that I'm nobody's idea of a Chad, but I could have easily racked up double digits even though I was stridently celibate before I got married. Sex was available to me even though I wasn't chasing it.
Those days are probably gone forever: OLD and swipe apps have rendered the younger version of guys like me utterly invisible to women. I turned down several straight-up propositions, and didn't avail myself of several more sure-fire opportunities in the 70s and 80s, but if I transplanted the 1982 version of me to 2022, I'd be lucky to get a five-word response from an unbeddable landwhale with three bastard kids.
So the epiphany you just gave me is that the difference between then and now is that in my generation, even the sluts knew how to play their roles when it was time to portray themselves as wife-grade women. They saw their mothers and grandmothers wearing aprons and baking cookies, and wives on TV weren't rage-bitches. Today's young women have no personal or cultural references for how women should act to get a man's interest beyond the allure of sex.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Yep I had that same epiphany as I was writing too. Also had offers, also celibate before marriage, married at 20 back in the day. And then a few years ago we had a neighbor, single obese woman, around 30, who we knew for years. She never used the stove/oven in all that time because she didn't even know how. I think that was one of those red pill moments.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Two things that pop out:
She is concerned because her circle is getting hitched and she is the only leftover.
I know what my bet would be on.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago
Funny you should mention that. I was a First Lieutenant when I met my wife. I was dating another woman and it was winding down, but my wife is the one who initially pursued me. I dumped my then-girlfriend the next week and went all-in because I figured I'd found a keeper... at the very least I had proof that I could do better than the woman I was with. There's an old saying I haven't heard in a long time:
Quality women of earlier generations understood the push-and-pull hidden in that aphorism. Some younger women do as well, but the message is no longer supported by the culture. Low quality women whose entire experience in the relationship market resides between their legs end up like this chick: standing at the foot of the wall wondering why her girlfriends are getting married while she's just getting pumped and dumped.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
If a man is high value, there are only two scenarios when it comes to chasing:
He considers a woman to be in his league, he approaches her and initiates. She reciprocates and forms a mutually beneficial relationship of give and take.
The kind of high value men women seek do not chase women to the extent they want to be chased. There has to be respect and reciprocity. If there isn't, they don't entertain these girls on any level. Alpha fucks (aka players/fuckbois) do. They will push the right buttons to satisfy her ego and to make it ok for her to be a whore. But, as we see in their profiles, none of these guys will stay. They will pump, dump and move on. Most of these women do not encounter high value men and when they do, they fail so spectacularly, they will not ever be reconsidered. Yet, this failure rarely registers in their mind because the high they get from being chased is that intoxicating.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Also, when women date a low value F boy, they can take the role of the protagonist when the relationship inevitably goes south.
He couldn’t hold a job. He wouldn’t remember birthdays. He would have a terrible temper. He had no motivation or ambition.
When the relationship ends, she can claim to be the one with value, and he was the one to lose out.
When they date a high value man, that feeling of superiority is gone. They have to qualify. And if things go south, there isn’t a laundry list of character flaws from that man to point to.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
So my college friends and I discuss this a lot.
All of us are, to put it bluntly, fucking winners. We're professional, educated, fit, confident, tall, black men. Easily top 15%.
And we find that skets avoid us like the plague.
We were discussing it, and we came to a realization - women do not want good men.
Dating a good man requires you to be a good woman. You have to compete with other women, you have to offer value outside the default equipment. You can't just be any geek off the streets, you've got to be handy with the steel if you know what I mean.
Modern women say they want good men, but their actions demonstrate that they don't. They want a good man to save them from their choices, but they do not want to belong to a good man. If they truly wanted good men, they would take the necessary action to get one.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
Most of those Women want good men, when they are done having fun and are ready to settle down and have kids,etc.
In the meantime, the fuckboi's are "FUN"!!
I do believe some of those girls do rationalize and figure, that guy is too much, he's not gonna stay with me, he's got his shit together, look at me, I'm a hot mess. He just wants hot, not the mess. I'll stay with the hot guy who's a bit of a mess, birds of a feather ......
But, for sure, when they hit the wall age, they want you and your guys. But, the thing is, you don't want them now or in the future. They don't get it.
wswZtyqNGQ 2y ago
...temporarily. Then, after the divorce, it's back on the CC at double-speed to catch up!
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
They will try. But, well said.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago
Maybe I've mentioned it elsewhere, but (out of boredom during the pandemic months) I registered myself on MillionaireMatch, and I sent in documentation to prove my net worth, placing me in the top tier of high-income men. At every age, the women there STILL expect the man to chase after them as if they're pretty young things. If anything, the attitude is even more intensely of the "at long last, I deserved to be spoiled" flavor. Saying the truth of: "Miss, you have NOTHING that I want" would be gauche.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
How old were these hags?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago
A lot of 'em are in their 40s. And their demands have only become more "refined," which is a euphemism for "hilariously specific."
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
They are so bought in that they oversell themselves.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago
I can only imagine how many red flags she was waving for the guys to smarten up and run for the hills. Mentioning the ex? Explaining why she left the incomparable ex? Talking about marrying in the next year and having babies right after (since she's not getting any younger, after all)?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2y ago
I fixed her quote
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago
Not necessarily.
Every man starts off so horny, he overlooks even the most egregious offenses from women.
However, as he gets burned again and again, he will come to tolerate less and less bullshit.
Eventually, there will be that one special wymynZ, who will turn him off of female relationSHITz forever!
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2y ago
That's an incredibly valid point. He's not necessarily looking for a relationship period. My assumption was more so if I he is telling her he wants a relationship at all, and means it, it's probably just not wity her
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Yup. Dudes don’t just not want relationship. Men know what they want. It’s not like women who will seemingly float around until AB falls into their lap.
UpsideDB Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
She talks about "Her family" which I'm betting means she has kids. It's almost like a guy doesn't want to pay for someone else's kids. With the economy, gas, and food prices many can't even do it and maintain a comfortable living standard. Why would they bother with kids they only pay for but can't even raise? Given her age there's a pretty high chance of being overweight too.
There's a reason dating apps won't let you filter by mother status or weight. Because every man worth a damn would use them and that's not "fair" to single obese mothers.
It's almost like a life of instant gratification (cranking out kids before marriage, overeating) only attracts guys also into instant gratification (bang and ghost).
chunky 2y ago
And yet, they do let women filter by height. And (purported) income. Weird.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Dating apps are for women, that's why.
redblow22 2y ago
I might have to accept that I missed the opportunity to find a life partner
The animal shelter has plenty of cats to become your life partner. Odds are you won't friendzone them like you did the decent men who had interest in you while Chad and Brad Thundercock bent you over backwards. Your future is cat food and wine delivered by the pallet.
TriumphoftheSwill 2y ago
It's not even about a woman's deteriorating looks. Men are used to dating down physically. It's about women being goddamn insufferable past a certain age. They are either constantly sick and whining, have childish fears that keep them from being normal or they just complain fucking constantly. The worst part is if you mention any of those things they get upset and act like it's normal.
It's not normal for a grown woman to be afraid of the wind.
It's not normal to have headaches six days out of seven.
It's not normal to soak in the bath hours a day every day
It's not normal to constantly scream for no reason.
I'll also add that compared to men women's lives are cake. Most of them don't have to do a damn thing and if they do have job it's a joke where they play online and gossip all day while men at their company do all the work. If you have nothing to do in your life the least you can do is be in shape and stop being fucking fat. Yet all of them are huge.
There. Problem solved, ladies. Now make changes and go find someone. You're welcome.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
You're a stupid asshole.
Why do I say this?
You're stupid for thinking that any of these modern women will either listen to a man or actually make the effort to give him what he wants. If they did, they would be wives and not "last Tuesday's mistake."
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Imagine dating in your prime for 11 years with no results.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago
It's hard for me to think of an easier role to fulfill than "woman being courted." You sit there, act decently, look decently, and receive free entertainment. That's it. That's 90% of the job. God help me, I don't know what else they have to do. ("Put on makeup" they say? They put on makeup when they go out with their female friends, so what's the diff?)
No heavy lifting. No driving a car. You don't have to have 2 brain cells and only put money in when you feel like it. And somehow, out of all of her friends, she's the only one unable to do it properly.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I know right? When I go to my bi side and date guys it only requires one word, "yes".
Man: Hi there, how are you?
Me: Horny
Man: Can I come over and fuck you?
Me: yes
After sex...
Man: Wanna go grab a bite to eat?
Me: yes
Man: Wanna hang out tomorrow?
Me: yes
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago
I have to say that one annoying type of experience that comes with asking women out-- leaving aside the worst case scenario of an over-the-top public nuclear rejection, which sort of belongs in its own special category-- is the dithering, boneless, waffling woman who acts as if she can't figure out that you're inviting her somewhere. Like, I was sitting next to a woman at a group event...
She: "so I've only been in town for a few months."
Me: "I've been here for two years. Have you been to any good places?"
She: "Not really."
Me: "There's this Turkish restaurant that I really like. I'd be glad to take you there."
She: "Oh, well I dunno..."
Me: "Seriously, it's pretty good. They've got a great menu, great drink list. Seriously, you ever have Turkish coffee?"
She: "Like, I dunno."
Me: "... well, I'd be glad to take you. You might like it."
She: "I dunno, no thanks...."
Me: (Rolls eyes, mutters "Oi, God")
Other woman: "He's asking you on a date! Do you NOT see this??"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
By the time I was hitting my stride, I had learned not to waste my time on women like her. Anything less than reciprocated interest plus enthusiasm got her dropped as I moved on to better prospects.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I suppose that makes sense if you're spoiled for choice. Do I go to Bob's yacht party or Fred's mansion party?
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
18-29 for a woman is like an 8 figure net worth for a man
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Imagine being handed all your value up front and all you have to do is not get fat and not get pregnant and STILL fucking it up
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
And we all know what a man with the mentality of a 12yr old would do with an 8 figure net worth.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
know plenty of 40/50 yo's that if they were given 8 figures, within a year, it would be down to 6 figures.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I don't know how you get that far in life without being able to manage money.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
I know right? But it's amazing how many people live beyond their means (keep up with the guy next door) , or just make bad decisions.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I wouldn't know. I have a wife and 2 kids who depend on me. Can't throw money away.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I feel sorry for all the guys in her friendzone. They will never know what hit them. She has just realized that she is at a critical inflection point in a woman's life: the time when she must settle for what she can actually get. This is an alpha widow in the making. Any man she 'settles' for will be resented beyond the end of time.
Just make sure it is not you or any of your bros
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2y ago
Oh, you know she's been holding a bunch of worthy dudes at arms' length for years. Cuz it's fun to keep a gaggle of men around to help fix leaky faucets and provide entertainment.
They don't really count as men, so it's okay.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Every time a woman complains about men, we hear "oh, men. Like, all of us with penises?"
That isn't what they mean though.
What they mean is the narrow selection of men that they're attracted to.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
Men they are attracted to (20%) Men they are aware of, nice guys, beta's to talk to (20%), oft chance may have fun with him in right situation , like ($$$) Men that are invisible to them (60%), they don't exist