Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Saw undead chronic roast this bimbo earlier. So many things to unpack
1) she seems to hate men. Yet she is upset that she’s facing down being forever alone? If the women I qualified for weren’t good enough to add value to my life, I’d just be single. If I really had to, I’d go find some foreign girl so that I could start a family. But I wouldn’t be online posting cringe about the dating market.
2) peak solipsism again. She’s focusing on “career, hobbies, and self improvement”, thinking that this should be attractive to men. Because it’s what she find attractive in men. Zero regard to what men actually want.
3) related to #2, would she marry a man who has about the same career development, about the same skills in his hobbies, and the same focus on self improvement? Or does she want a guy who is better than her at these? Because if the latter, than she is offering an unfair deal for any man that she’d deem worthy. In exchange for his work as a man, he gets in return a crappier version of himself who can’t fix a flat, shovel the driveway or clean the gutters.
4) has she looked in her friend zone lately? Has she actually honestly stepped back and evaluated why she is single? She isn’t ugly. She looks like she is in shape. There’s no shortage of men for a woman like this. How many of them were some combination of too short, too unathletic, too Republican, too ugly, too shy, or whatever other stupid reasoning that she used to disqualify men? She simply doesn’t get it. Any woman has the ability to get sex, and women in decent shape under the age of, like, 40, can get sex from some serious Chad’s. But girls like this are not wives, they’re side pieces. They’re the ones who get the CEO slammajamming her in the V on a regular basis, as he constantly reassures her that he will totally leave his wife once the kids are older.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
Like your summary.
1) doesn't hate men. Hates that she can't land the type of men she wants. The ones she doesn't want, don't matter of course.
2) yup, MSM doesn't tell them to take the man's view, it's all about her, so they have no idea.
3) you know she's only looking for a guy, (better) than her. And, she's not having luck with that
4)self reflection, damn man, that could hurt her feelings you misogynist (sarc squared). she's not willing to (settle) she deserves it all of course. So, she'll continue to have hookups, quick relationships with guys above her, with the hope that one of them is actually "smart" enough, "man enough" to keep her. barf
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 2y ago
Single for 3 years =/= Celibate for 3 years.
She's been getting plowed and pumped and dumped by guys she wants for a relationship that only want her for sex.
I for one continue to benefit from their bullshit and will continue to do so for as long as possible.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
yup, celibate for 3 years, that made me laugh
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I've been seeing this a lot. This woman is clearly fuckable. She's clearly got the long hair, nice teeth, fair complexion, and is fit. I even got a little wood looking at her. I used to chase women like this in my 20s when I was a starving college student. She'd clearly check off all the boxes on my blue pilled list: hot, intelligent, age appropriate, no tattoos, no piercings, no short blue hair, etc. She should have no problem attracting most men. Hell, she's got the whole "girl next door" thing going on.
What I learned is that I was invisible to these women and would get harshly rejected. The better I treated them, the worse they would treat me. After I finished college(e.g. "bettering myself") I got married to a similar woman but from a different culture and she treated me nice despite me being a blue pilled beta nice guy with average looks. So I find it hard to believe that she's been single for 3 years because she can't find a decent man. They're out there. She's just not dating them. They're in her friend-zone.
Fast forward 20 years later and they're all coming out of the woodwork in their 30s. Suddenly I'm not invisible. Too bad I already have a wife and 2 kids. Sorry ladies. You lose.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
she's just an avg looking girl, with a BIG ATTITUDE.
I'd pump and dump these girls in college, because of the attitude, she just can't hold back on the drama/emotion. She "DESERVES" a top guy, because she's a top girl , of course. She's avg looking, the problem, she doesn't want an avg guy, and she's pissed at that. Men need to step up, that means, these hot guys need to stay with me, not just dump me.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
I have absolutely no difficulty believing she's been single for 3 years. As @sleepyweaselisawake noted, however, single =/= celibate, especially for reasonably attractive women. She's still getting dicked down whenever she wants it, they just aren't sticking around after the fact, both because she's doubtless batting out of her league and she obviously has nothing to offer a man that he wants beyond her physical appearance and a wet hole.
As you noted, she's plenty physically attractive enough to land a good man tonight if she were so inclined. The problem is she's not looking for a good man. She's looking for an AlphaBux.
Intrepid_Place53900 2y ago
single for 3 years, never said she wasn't taking chads home a few times a month.
Think that's the problem, she views herself a LOT higher than she really is and has been with Chads and is not willing to "settle".
With her attitude, it's clear and good for guys to see, it's like a flashing neon sign, Not LTR material, but can be fun for a quickie.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
After watching the video again, I realize this a "men need to man up" meme. She says "I can't find a man that I want to be with that treats me how I want to be treated". So after you get beyond the fact that it's her choice in men that is causing her problems, you come to the "Is there some kind of movement of men bettering themselves?". Like as if there's some kind of red pill community where men go to learn how to serve women better. I don't have the heart to tell her the truth.
So considering all that, here's the thing: there is a fuckton of women coming out and saying this: "Will I just have to be single forever?". You see it on almost every fresh and fit show. All over the internet. We even have the SHEconomy article predicting most women will be single and childless all their lives.
I just think of it like evolution correcting hypergamy as these women self-delete their genes from the gene pool. It makes sense to eliminate a population of females that hate males. Meanwhile the ones that don't are already married and having kids in their prime fertility window.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
All you need to know is right in that video. You don't need more. Don't ask for the source.
Pic889 2y ago
Someone should tell these women that the kind of men they have eyes for (tall, attractive, a lil' bit of bad boy) don't need to become "the best version of themselves", because they are already drowning in pussy as they are. And they are likely to have some job like DJ or bartender that pays the bills just fine, so financials are also taken care of.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are men out there who have the qualities mentioned above and also have the range of the other "commitment" qualities that women like her are also looking for, but such men are exceptionally rare, and they are almost certainly in a relationship with some alpha woman since the age of 21 (at the very latest).
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
And I assume by “alpha woman” you don’t mean a woman who has the traits many would consider alpha in a man
I think it was Rollo who said that an alpha woman is a woman who is very feminine, attractive, nurturing etc. “Wife Material” basically. And that the mistake most women who call themselves alpha make are trying to be alpha men (which isn’t attractive at all)
Pic889 2y ago
This, thanks for clarifying that. Basically, Alpha women get an alpha grade in the qualities relevant for women, not men. If I may add, unlike "kweens", alpha women don't have to gold-dig and in fact avoid it, they "naturally" activate a man's instinct to want to stay with a quality woman and, the man "naturally" becomes their other half and then "naturally" builds his life around them without the woman having to take or ask for a penny. This happens irrespective of how much the woman makes. Of course, alpha women also know how to weed out men who avoid committing by choice (note: I am not necessarily talking about marriage, though it may be in the long-term goals, typically with the man proposing without "pushing"). BTW I have seen this happen IRL, so such women do in-fact exist.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
What do these women mean when they repeat phrases like "best version of myself" or "finding myself"? These are things men do not say or understand.
Perhaps it's a coping mechanism to deal with missing the purpose in life they were created for (and the depression and loneliness that accompanies this).
The stark truth is that this woman is losing value every year, sees the writing on the wall, but comes to exactly the wrong conclusion. I was hoping for a "well, maybe we should try something different and see if it works," but no, it was blame the men for not doing really vague things to keep up with her self-proclaimed awesomeness.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Not true.
There IS a difference though. When men say "become the best version of myself", we usually use that to describe the actual work we are putting in on our bodies, minds, or finances. When women say it, they're using it to justify doing nothing except whoring around.
PoopBeast 2y ago
So she's saying that women are focusing on their hobbies, and bettering themselves, etc... but she's concerned that men aren't doing these same things to become better versions of themselves....even though this idea is completely derivative of MGTOW...which is a movement that those men started...
...this is stupid, right?
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I assume the big difference is that the women still want the men and still want a relationship and think that doing all the above will make them more desirable to the top tier (when it really doesn’t). And that is the reason they do it
Whereas true mgtow are doing it for themselves only and eschewing women.
So it has taken an idea and tried to warp it completely away from the intention
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
Yes. Yes it is.
The even shorter version is she's become the man she wants to date and is now shocked, absolutely shocked, I tell you! to discover men don't want to commit to women who act like men.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
In a manner of speaking, the opposite has occurred in that men today need to be the best qualities of our fathers (income generation/self-reliance) but also that of what women used to bring to the table (social skills.) Back when women were "oppressed", they focused on getting married before their mid 20's by developing basic game: Making approaches and starting conversations, social networking, emotional maturity and self-control, social grace and elegance. I remember 40 years ago that modern women considered such women to be "pathetic" and that a real (masculine) woman would be gruff and demanding like they thought alpha males were because they shouldn't have to care about others. Older women also had a good judge of character looking for potential. My father had some rough edges on him but they were easily buffed out unlike the way that modern women pick bad boys who are "bad to the bone" and try to fix them. All my mother had to do with my father was pick out some nice clothes for him (something she rather enjoyed actually.)
I saw the difference between a MILF I was seeing 30 years ago and her 20 something daughter. The MILF smiled, was kind and appreciative to men, and dressed and moved in a feminine manner. She also knew how to keep her mouth shut when it didn't help her. The daughter was like a nerdy guy including her lack of social grace and poor dress sense but her income was 'hers' of course so she had literally nothing to offer men except a sourpuss attitude.
About 15 years ago, I saw a woman colleague about my age skulking around and being cheerful said "Smile. I hope you have a nice day." It's something I would have said to male colleagues as well but she got all nasty because as a "liberated woman' she didn't want men caring about her (made her look weak and unmasculine in her view, I guess.) She told me sternly "Please don't say that." and I complied. She had a sour look on her face EVERY time I saw her even years after I had left the firm and I saw her at corporate events.
Social grace means that even if you don't feel well, you put on a face as if you do. You control your emotions and learn to handle rejection and even hostility from the world around you. I don't see that she even learned the basics on how to do that which most men acquire by their pre-teens.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
Makes me think of the song Mama's Broken Heart. Which is about not only doing precisely the opposite but decrying the above as weak.
The song itself is catchy as hell despite that but every time I hear it on the radio while making my deliveries at work I can't help but think "Y'know, if you'd just listen to your Mom and do what she says you'd have a much easier time of things."
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago
Wasn't it Betty Freidan who said something like,
back in the 1970s? But yeah... it turns out that men don't like masculine women any more than women like effeminate men.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
It’s only got worse since then. Women taking the jobs and the university places of the men they would have married triggering “The Question”
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
I'm all for women competing with men. Why?
Because I want to watch it all burn down.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago
Yes, and part of is is not dating women like you.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Beat me to it. Cheers!
See the irony? Strong and independent, don’t need a man, but what is this TikTok all about??? Needing a man in her life. The irony is apparently lost on them.
Also, I have a feeling that the things she is doing to “better” herself are just normal things that all functional adults should do, which is why she didn’t elaborate.
Congrats sweetheart, you’ve become the man you’ve wanted to date.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Cross post to Reddit please.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
Done. And a bunch of extra bullshit to hit the character limit for commenting.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago
lol
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
Thank you.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
The better men you're looking for are with women younger than you.
Scorpion69_ 2y ago
this chick is retarded. becoming the best version of herself doesnt mean to become the man she wants to date. masculine men arent attracted to masculine women
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
They don’t care what we want or prefer. Having preferences as a man is “patriarchy” and “toxic”.
Watch a few Kevin Samuels videos where he straight up asked women what they think men want. The answers were illuminating.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Women don't know what men want because they don't want to listen to men.
They think they can tell men what we want and we're supposed to happily nod for a crumb of pussy
TriumphoftheSwill 2y ago
What is she ten years old? She can't have been working that long. She's a baby.
I remember when women got burnt out and bitter by their early thirties. Is it hitting the preteens already?
TriumphoftheSwill 2y ago
The worse women get the more they think they're amazing.
Here's what's happening, toots. Women are getting lazier, more dishonest and more selfish and men...just stopped playing. Fewer and fewer men care about impressing you. If they look like garbage or don't bend over backwards for you it's because you're not worth it and they stopped doing more and not getting reciprocation on you're end.
The most garbage women I ever met all thought they were the best
reignoferror00 2y ago
Here's your first mistake. Making life decisions based on what you watch on TikTok - of all things.
I think you've confused women pumping up each other egos ("lifting other women up"), doing things you care about but most men couldn't care less about ("get hobbies and be these bad ass women"), giving attitude as the default ("no longer taking shit from men"). "Women being the best version of themselves" best for who? does "best" now mean most self absorbed in your insular little 'you go girl' groups?
"Men didn't ALSO start treating people better"???? I'm guessing your definition of people either doesn't include men or doesn't include most men. Do you honestly think women are treating men better?
You don't want a man who will treat you the way you deserve to be treated. Getting what you truly deserve would be a curse to you; you couldn't handle a fraction of the karma. Try to get your head out of your ass for just a second and get away from whatever corner of that of TikTok, that shining example of a platform of deep and profound thought, you've fallen into.
The men who have take large steps to be better are either WAY above your level, or have mostly or entirely opted out of dating and relationships. They've done a cost/benefit analysis and either way you don't come close to making the grade. Name three things that make you worth a long term commitment for a man. Coming up blank? Go ask your grandmother for some ideas and tell her to be brutally honest.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
Nah, she'll be able to give you plenty of answers to that challenge. None of them will be things a man looks for when deciding whether to commit to a woman but that's not her problem - so so she believes. And that (and Chad chasing) is precisely why she's single.