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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago Stickied
Step 1: base your "standards" off what other normie girls like, because you care more about status than actually being happy
Step 2: pursue the same 15% of men that 80% of women do.
Step 3: eagerly put sex tokens into the machine and then demand that a relationship fall out, because you're owed a relationship.
Step 4: act shocked that the man who has options treats you like an option
Step 5: fail to do any introspection, root cause analysis, or literally fucking anything that might alter your decision making process
Step 6: repeat steps 1-5 until you age out the carousel
Step 7: blame it on men
reignoferror00 1y ago
Think you might have to flip step 6 and step 7, or even put 7 in the loop more because you know they'll be blaming it on men a lot.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This should be stickied. Every single point is spot on.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Agreed. Done.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This woman complaining about cat calls.... we all know whats going on here. shes actually bragging. Lets have a look at her IG. Its all pictures of her begging for digital cat calls. Pictures of her ass in leggings, of her in swimwear. I guarantee it. if a woman doesn't want to get cat called....she doesn't.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
One thing also obvious from these women's experiences is their lack of understanding of "confirmation bias". Take the gal who griped about men catcalling her on the street or grocery store and how that's a "majority" of men. It's a perfect allegory for the invisible "average" man: Certainly there are hundreds of men on the street or grocery store, but she only notices the "majority", say, 3 or so, that catcall her on a particularly busy day. An interesting woman youtuber who does interviews with women asked them the salary a man should have to settle down with them and $200K figures were common. It's like they're Rain Man and everything costs "$100".
Don't get me wrong, some of the finest mathematicians have been women but on emotional, personal scale they can be amazingly daft. My wife has gotten better grades at algebra than me, and I said if we won the $100 million lottery, what would she do with it? She said if she had $40 million to spare, she'd want to help the people of her home country, about 40 million, and give them a million dollars each. I tried to explain to her the concept by asking her if she had 100 friends and a 100 dollars, how much does each one get? She said "Oh, that's easy. A dollar each!" So I said "If you have $10,000 and 10,000 friends, how much does each one get?" and she said "Oh, er, I don't know. Can I have a calculator?" I went and made a video. I am NOT posting it but I will show our dearest, trusted friends.
reignoferror00 1y ago
Say what you will about Matthew Hussey, but in this video he makes the point (but I bet most of the audience don't take it home with them; likely mostly there because they have a 'wide on' for him) on the type of guy who approaches them "the loudest guy in the room/street" and what a small percentage of guys that is.
https://youtu.be/C9ONWHXCsrk
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
The fundamental problem with this "feminine" mindset is that it requires a woman be KIND and RESPECTFUL towards men. When I went overseas, I was hit-in-the-face with how NICE women were. I could talk to them like normal people. I felt like I was living in a prison in the states where you had to worry if you said something wrong, you'd get shanked. But being "nice" to men means putting up with awkward approaches, or "creepy meN" and such. The paradigm of the modern era is that women should only be approached by The Perfect Guy with The Perfect Approach and she shouldn't have to do anything.
Something I want to teach my daughter is that with just a fraction of the game that men have to learn to even hope to have a chance of a successful approach, she could get a top grade top level beta bucks. The top of the top. Not alpha chad, but close to it. Just by doing a LITTLE teeny-weeny bit of work. Just not sitting in the castle waiting for the prince to fight a dozen dragons to come and rescue her tatted up, face pierced princess. Just do a LITTLE bit of work.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago Stickied
I have long maintained that for a man to be successful he has to do things... hard things.
Do be athletic.
Do make a lot of money.
Do make smooth approaches.
Do be interesting and engaging.
Whereas a woman's success mainly hinges on her just not screwing up... easy things.
Don't eat like a pig.
Don't be a slut.
Don't do your hair like a Marine recruit or a tropical bird.
Don't get trashy tattoos or piercings.
Almost any woman who goes beyond that and puts in some effort will be an MMV 8 or better. She can do things like getting toned, mastering cooking / baking, and being clean and tidy.
Men are only valued for what we do and provide, while women are valued for simply being. Our success has to be earned, while they just have to not throw theirs away.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I've read this before and I agree. I'll add another observation: For men, the challenge is that when we're most vulnerable, in our youth, so much is demanded of us but yet, we also have time to "do" the things you say. I blew a good 5 years of my life "finding" myself and don't regret it one bit. We still need to grow and do more for our kids, of course, but the first 30 years are the toughest.
For women, the challenge is that if they blow off their youth and develop themselves like a man ("career" "success"), they may still be miserable. Or if they CC ride for their 20's. If they're smart, they get married young and then they can spend the rest of their lives doing what us men did in our teens and 20's: "Find ourselves" or have a "career" and such, but they just have to do it later. When the kids are in school then she can pursue some career ambitions and such. It's quite doable and even necessary in that women today don't need to spend 10 hours at home doing laundry and mending clothes by hand anymore.
For men, the challenge of "doing" can sometimes trap us into become ATM wallets and we should remind ourselves to "be". That women don't have to give away their bodies for free, so neither should us men selflessly help women anymore.
This is the era of OUR liberation.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
My god. Coming back here was like coming back to a DV situation.
At this point, I don't even take shit off American women because they're trash and they're too insulated from the world to realize it.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
What we are experiencing in the States is the feminist dream. Men are self-selecting who approaches them. Men with anything to lose are increasingly deciding to not wander into the minefield of modern dating. Why risk your future on the whim and mood of some screeching harpy that can ruin your life with one false accusation?
Conversely, the exciting bad boys with a prison record have nothing to lose and can pursue aggressively. So, women get to share their alpha male and vote themselves all of the beta male tax dollars.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Minor quibble: It's slightly short of the feminist dream in that much of the beta male tax dollars goes to the elites suggesting that's why they supported women's equality in the first place. Consider: the welfare state is largely a support system for the families of former indentured servants such as cheap labor immigrants or former slaves. It allows corporations to pay low wages and reap higher profits and then dumps the costs of the children of these workers onto future taxpayers.
Including career women or women married to middle class men.
Yes, it stinks for us men but it's not that much better for women. I wouldn't call it a "feminist dream" or utopia.
Sweden was, until recently, a feminist utopia but since it's based upon a false premise of "equality" and leftist alliance with the states, they blew it with white guilt and now it's collapsing. The reason why the Patriarchy persists is that Matriarchies collapse.
reignoferror00 1y ago
It is amazing how often these are the same.
Make a statement and in that statement spell out that you do understand (I know it's Tinder and what it is used for). Then have everything that follows refute that claim.
I can only conclude women have a different definition for the word 'understand'. At best they can logically follow that B follows A, but must be in some sort of weird abstract way that doesn't apply to them and/or the understanding goes one atom deep on the surface.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Easy - for a woman, saying she understands means "I feel that it is true (for now)".
And its exactly as mercurial and temporary as you think it is...
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Most illustrative part of the thread was when that male redditor took his shot, and asked her on a date, just like she had said she wanted, and she blew him off. As a subsequent reply said, her answer was the "haha".
Women are going to complain no matter what you do or say.
You may as well do and say whatever you want, and whatever gets what you want.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
What's funny is the same girls who are like "OhmiGAWWW I get hit onnnnn all the tiiiiiime" are the FIRST to complain about it when it stops.
Humblebragging whores, all of em.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Their complaints are just signaling. When a female friend of mine is all gushing about how some chad hit on her i gently remind her that its men do....we hit on women all day every day because it's a numbers game. They usually take it badly. Truth is a tool of the patriarchy
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
No apologies for women.
I will lie to them, because they are liars and do not understand honor.
I will use them, because men are useless to them unless they provide resources.
I will ghost them, because a mature rejection is met with childish behavior.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
And the irony is that they will not recognize the equality they fought so hard for. This is how women treat men. Now the tables have turned.
Equality is a bitch.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I can guarantee that this is the type of woman that hangs around at the finish line and complains that all the winners are already taken. She would probably also complain that half of all men are below average....../s
Never invest in a woman or change yourself for the sake of a woman. Achieve some success and invest in yourself. Once you see results, women will start seeking you out. Does anyone think she was swiping on Bob the clerk or Jake the waiter?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Only if they are hot, otherwise no.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
If only that were true. The famous OKCupid study showed that women consider 4/5 of men to be below average in attractiveness... 81% in that poll, which is a near-perfect fit for the 80/20 Rule we mention so often. The male version was so close to being a perfect bell curve that it could have been in a math book.
Then consider what Kevin Samuels found when women would call in to his show: sixes who insisted they were tens. So these, "You're average at best" women reject men who are objectively better than they are because they think the guys are beneath them.
Meanwhile Chad and Tyrone are running the tables... they throw out a dozen, "Let's bang" messages and get a couple of, "YES!" replies, and they're getting laid like tile. The other 80% are getting nothing but bots and crickets for all the effort they put into being thoughtful and attentive. Chad spends three minutes copy-pasting propositions to Girls #5297 - 5324 (and scores), while Billy spends 15 minutes composing a personalized message to some Becky based on her profile and doesn't even receive an acknowledgement that she read it
Then they complain that all they get are digital cat-calls..
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It’s almost like humans respond to reward incentive structures. My girl said that she had quite a few excessively forward messages sent to her on Match (you wouldn’t expect Chad to be on a paid app but there ya go), and didn’t get why men did that. I said “because it works often enough for them”. They see how the average dude gets on with dating and see no reason why they should be “more like him”
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Indeed... if women had any idea what it's like to live as a man they would stop wondering why men act as they do.
I'm going to nerd out for a minute here to illustrate my point. I've played through Skyrim a few times, and at one point you have to go on a quest to acquire an ability that let's you knock dragons out of the sky so you can fight them on the ground. It's a spell-like ability, and you're sent to talk to a character named Parthanax to learn it. Then you discover that Parthanax is a dragon. He can't teach it to you because he doesn't know it. He can't know it, in fact, because the "magic" involved in an anti-dragon ability is so antithetical to his nature that it is unknowable to him.
It's like that for women: the mating market for average men is so different than it is for women that they are incapable of understanding what we go through. We can't really now what it's like for them, either, but since we're the ones who have to initiate we've had to learn how to push the right buttons. Probably the only women who have any idea at all are bull dykes who like "femmes."
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Its interesting when women just get a TASTE of what its like to be snubbed and outright rejected/outcast, it puckers their asshole like a plunge into Lake Michigan in the winter time.
Social flows are their lifeblood. The "support network" of orbiters and other well-wishers is what sustains them. The very thought of not having that sunlight in their lives is enough to push them into deep depression.
Want to unleash a atom-bomb nuke in her head? Just ask her how it would be like if everyone she knew just hated her all of a sudden. Even that simple exercise is too hard to even simulate in her head, even for a minute.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Well, the last woman who tried to switch the game from "Tutorial" to "No Future Mode" got rekt so hard that she ended up deleting her save file.
RIP Norah Vincent. No woman that I know of would do what you did. Brave as fuck.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Holy cow... I had to look it up because I didn't know she was dead. She offed herself, and it sounds like it was a lingering effect of her time living as "Ned." (I'm sure there were other factors in play, but it seems that's what started the downward spiral.)
That's a shame. It's too bad nobody will draw any of the right conclusions from it.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yes, her experience trying to date as a man was so FUCKING traumatic that it lingered after her experiment was over.
She would talk about how women treated her as "Ned", totally surprised at the callous disregard and outright disrespect she received as a conventionally unattractive man (and how their attitudes shifted when she revealed that she is a woman, demonstrating that women discount men simply for being men). Conversely, she was surprised at the acceptance she received from men.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I actually had an idea for a post about her milling around in my head these past few months (sort of an homage), but RL kept interfering.
Maybe I can crank it out during my little mini-vacation I'm on...
CC: @lurkerhasarisen
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Please do! It would benefit the entire community.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Please do.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Anyone who's read, "Self-Made Made Man" by Norah Vincent (I have), knows more about intersex dynamics than any Gender Studies PhD.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Ned got shit on by women for...
/Checks notes
... following the feminist playbook and being a feminine man.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Remember that, being a woman and a bull dyke, Norah Vincent was born knowing the cheat codes we all had to learn through trial-and-error... plus she was (slightly) tall even for a man (5'10"), and she was still appalled at how women treated her when they thought she was male.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I don't think women know the cheat codes. I think they believe that you just start on stage 1-1 Jungle with 30 lives.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
There. Fixed for you.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You know what? Its ok to want to feel validated for great achievements. Ive no problem with a scientist enjoying the moment when he stands there on stage and is given the nobel prize. The pride he feels is well earned. The validation he is getting from his applauding peers is justified.
But woman want validation for being an IG attention whore / slut with a fat ass. For being "the best version of themselves" . They want you to appreciate them "for who they really are".
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
That's the stark difference between the genders.
Men think "I need validation, therefore I must earn it." Women think "I need validation, I exist therefore I deserve it.,"
As the old adage goes, "Women are human beings, men are human doings."
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
As someone who has seen his SMV and RMV skyrocket from its incel-level lows of my early 20’s, I can say that these women are hilarious. They will still think they’re in the drivers seat with a guy like me, even though I could go date someone young enough to be their daughter. They’re still also blaming the dating apps instead of blaming their own warped view of what a man should be.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The woes of hoes. Funny, my wife doesn't have any of those problems. Maybe it's because she dresses modestly, doesn't go to bars/clubs, takes her husband with her, stays home with her family, etc.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Shes on tinder looking for romance? That's like me going to a brothel looking for virgins.