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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Leftovers

Funny how older women encourage younger women to be independent and make their own choices except for when they date older men. Man exposes how this is infantilization.
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kevin32

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago Stickied

This fake concern for younger women is to ensure that every slut who wants to whore around gets to spend her time riding the cock carousel to her heart's desire under the guise of becoming mature and that that choice does not come to bite her in the ass later in her life. You'll get to know where their concern is if you ask any of these girls about what age a girl should marry and whether a girl should marry young and chaste as religions and societies used to enforce. Needless to point out, any woman who has this belief is an aging slut who just wants to eliminate competition by not taking ownership for her own actions.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Older women do not want to admit that not only are young women their competition, young women have more of the very things all men want most from women.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

So very true.

The faux-concern for the younger women is just hiding the knives behind their backs. They know what it means when men choose the perky tits, good demeanor and firm asses of younger chicks. As they age they become more desperate, all the while not admitting to themselves that the years aren't kind -- so OF COURSE its the man "preying" on younger gals, it couldn't be that he doesn't want their stretched out catcher mitt pussies, hanging tits and tendon-lined turkey necks.

Aging sluts should have an expiration date, and I'm all for men making the POINT that younger hotter women is what turns us on, not some fucking bitter harpy with an axe to grind.

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reignoferror00 2y ago

What IS this twitter campaign called? Could it be #allslagsmatter ... nah, too upfront.

What does a 30 year old guy have in common with a 23 year old woman? All too often dating "mileage". In fact she's likely got more experiences and good experiences in that department. And if she is one of the rare mature for her age, they have a hell of a lot more in common than you'd think.

The 30 year old guy might be tempering some of his bitterness after finally getting some half decent experiences after passing the world of shit that is often his teenage and early 20's years, but for the 30 year old gal it is just ramping up time for the bitterness - exponentially more so with her expectations and bloated sense of self worth.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago

Yep. The years from puberty to 22-23 are brutal for any young man unless he's either a "natural" (which is genetic), or is above-average in looks and makes it into the "Cool Kids Club." The only other way is to be one of those very rare guys who meets the love of his life when they're children and stays together for life.

Meanwhile, any girl who takes even moderate care of herself can spend those years getting more attention from the opposite sex than any man who's not a literal rock star or action movie hero. That's her primary window of opportunity, and if she misses it, it will begin the shut. The day she graduates from college it immediately gets much smaller. Every year after that it narrows a bit more, and the day she turns 30 it closes a lot more (Articles have been written about the massive drop in quality matches that women get with dating apps and online matchmaking services when their age switches from 29 to 30.)

Now compare those two trajectories: a man who spent those years grinding away in the desert suddenly finds himself the object of desire of the very kind of women who never gave him a second glance... and those women are the younger sisters of the women his own age, who also begin to express interest because they wish to "settle down" now that they've had their fun.

What a dilemma, right? A guy like that can have a parade of young hotties who want to have fun with him, or pair off with some older gal who had her fun with other guys and is ready for him to slip his head into the yoke and start pulling the plow for her. Tough choice.

Or she could have done what women like my wife, her eldest sister, and a couple of our neices did. They each picked one quality man when they were in the 18-20 range and went all-in when they had the most to offer. Not one of them would trade places with their sisters or cousins who failed to play their hands right when they were in that age range.

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Lionsmane8 2y ago

They're just jealous of the competition.

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redblow22 2y ago

This is the God's Truth, right here. When you can't compete, demean those you're in competition with.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

And they think they can shame men into wanting their nasty worn out sleeves and paying for Chad's dine n dash buffet tab.

They're the ones that let him feast for free, they can deal with the bill, the stupid sluts.

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Lionsmane8 2y ago

Hey, don't shame Chads! Most girls don't have the privilege to taste Chad's cock. If they were so amazing Chad would have already cuffed that.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Hey, don't shame Chads!

He's not.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Even most low-tier women these days have fucked a Chad when he was dumpster-diving, but very few non-Chads has ever had a Stacy.

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Stacy's Mom trying to get in on the action.

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Lionsmane8 2y ago

They do, if they are rich enough. But they usually have to marry them.

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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2y ago

Only if the man became rich before taking the red pill (which happens often enough). In that case, yeah, they're so amazed by the attention they're now getting, that they're worried it's a fluke and get dazzled into marrying the first halfway decent thottie that smiles at him.

But if a man understands red pill truths before he becomes rich (which is happening more often now), he can easily play the game (if he wants to), without ever having to marry anyone.

That said, even rich men at some point frequently tire of the game and want to find one person to have a family with, and that's when some lucky woman ends up getting a ring on it.

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EastEndMontrealer1 2y ago

But even then, they don't get everything. Just the bear minimum in terms of intercourse.

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OPPTRP 2y ago

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I think it is hilarious about how these 30+ women attack men for "preying" upon 20-something women. If these inspins really cared for their younger sisters, wouldn't they spend their time warning these impressionable youngsters about those predatory older men?

Oh, wait. This is just the latest volley in the intrasexual competition. I guess they had to MoveOn after their 'beautiful at any size' campaign beached like a whale.

Keep poundin' the shame button laydeez. It will wear out sooner and then you will have to find another tactic to get attention.

(Edit to add air quotes for clarity.)

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

It must be tough for the older vulture chicks when they have to support ' YOU GO GIRRRRRRRL ' at any cost, even to their own sexual ambitions.

Too fucking bad, I have no problem with their stupid slut-loving bullshit being thrown back into their faces.

There is nothing more delusional than a former hot chick aging out rapidly while she still demands treatment as if she's in her 20's. I see a few like that in my area, still trying to prove they 'have it', but every dude only lasts a week or so -- and for good reason. Good enough for a pump, and not much else, these whores.

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Pic889 2y ago

I think it is hilarious about how these 30+ women attack men for preying upon 20-something women.

Men aren't preying upon 20-something women. Those women are adults capable of making their own choices.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Ah,. I will add air quotes for clarity.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

If these inspins really cared for their younger sisters, wouldn't they spend their time warning these impressionable youngsters about those predatory older men?

That's because they know those "younger sisters" won't listen to them since those "younger sisters" understand that older men are often more desirable than most men their own age.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago

The "younger sisters" have been taught that there are no legitimate limits on expressing their sexuality, and would accuse the "older sisters" of trying to impose patriarchy on them... maybe even trying to turn, "The Handmaiden's Tale" into reality.

In fact, the "older sisters" believe that for themselves, and would have no issue with the younger women acting accordingly except for the fact that they feel entitled to "right of first refusal" over the men the younger men (edit: women) are dating.

Feminism is only and always about what benefits the individual woman under consideration at that exact moment. But occasionally there is more than one woman, and sometimes their interests conflict (like in this case). Since it is antifeminist to criticize the sexual choices of any woman at any time, there has to be some way to make all the women innocent so that all the fault may be attributed to men. Thus we're left with the logic-pretzel wherein older women criticize men for giving younger women what they want.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

over the men the younger men are dating

lol

Feminism is only and always about what benefits the individual woman under consideration at that exact moment.

Ball-busting aside, damn right.

The same individual feminazi will hold polar opposite views at different moments in time, based solely on what is convenient for her in the moment.

They have no values or principles whatsoever.

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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2y ago

Like turning around the next day and saying men are so immature and juvenile and never grow out of being Peter Pan. So wait... If I'm a 30 year-old man behaving like an immature 23 year old, isn't my ideal mate a 23 year old woman? Wouldn't I share more with her than with a "mature" 30 year-old woman who's grown sick of dealing with all of my stupid childish shit and is looking for a Real Man(tm) who gets hard thinking about the color of paint on their future picket fence?

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Ok - so women at 25 are not really able to make proper decisions, but I'm guessing boys at 15 should be tried as adults if they commit a crime, especially if that crime was sleeping with a woman that then changed her consent retrospectively? Got it.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2y ago Stickied

Underage boys are routinely ordered to pay child support to the adult women who raped them. It has happened in at least a dozen US states. The youngest boy was 12 years old.

TWELVE. Not 23... not even 16. His inability to prevent himself being raped by an adult woman was all it took to hold him legally responsible for the child that his rapist bore, but somehow when a 23 year old woman decides to be with an older man, every feminist turns into a neurologist with expertise on the development of the cerebral cortex of young adults.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago

but somehow when a 23 year old woman decides to be with an older man, every feminist turns into a neurologist with expertise on the development of the cerebral cortex of young adults.

Well put.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

thats beyond fucked up.

Here in the UK its normal for female teachers that sleep with male children to get fired or perhaps they might resign and go work somewhere else. Reverse the genders? Jail.

I'm tired of the shite we have to put up with.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Right, and along the line of what the dude in the thread in the screenshot pointed out (and like many of us here at WAATGM have been saying for years), that sub-25-year-old woman is capable of voting, driving, owning property, joining the military, buying firearms, etc. etc.

Yet somehow they are supposedly incapable of making their own decisions when it comes to dating.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

And the 600 lb gorilla in the room: if she is old enough to unilaterally decide to have an abortion, she is old enough to decide who she can date.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

I had actually considered editing my list to include that, but got distracted lol

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago

And that's why the best female movement is still the movement of their hips.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

"I hate seeing you leave, but I LOVE watching you go...."

Fuck yeah.

I'm an irredeemable woman-lover, I just hate the current ideology permeating the hivemind.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

“What does a 30 year old man have in common with a 23 year old woman?”

Shared values and future relationship goals. Seems like a biggie to me.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Similar MMV (Marriage Market Value), a woman's MMV is at her peak once she become legal, but it starts to sink by her mid 20s, while a man's MMV is seen as quite low at 18 in this modern era, but if he works on himself and his career, his MMV can become as high as a woman in her peak.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Mutual sexual attraction. That is also important.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Yup. Fact is, Margot Robbie pushed for changes to “Babylon” because she wanted a reason to kiss Brad Pitt. He is 59. She is 32. Find me the 32 year old man who would go out of his way to get a kiss from a 59 year old woman?

In many cases, the women are MORE attracted to those older guys. Or at the very least, aren’t put off by their age.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

You know what else they have in common? Equivalent SMV.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Nah. Because a man still has a few years to go before his peak. Hell, some men peak at like 50.

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chunky 2y ago

My own parents were 7 years apart. Mom was 2 weeks before her 22nd birthday on her wedding day. Dad had done 2 years in the Army, then 4 years of engineering college, then a bit over a year working. Mom had finished teacher's college, too, and then did a year student teaching. They moved to a new town almost immediately, and both got jobs. Mom got pregnant with me at 24, dad was 31. My two sibs followed. We moved around a lot, as dad took better and better engineering jobs. Mom taught only until I was born, then returned to it when her youngest was old enough. They retired in 1999, dad was 65, mom 58. They were married till mom died, at 77, so 56 years. Dad lived 3 years more, missing her every day. I could not have asked for better parents, selfless to the very last.

But these cows would not have it, my mom apparently was too young to decide for herself.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

Your parents enjoyed what I would refer to as the golden age of women's equality/chivalry: Women still had educational opportunities but with men getting just that much more, they could engage in that hypergamy if they utilized that power intelligently. She met your father probably not while he was at the finish line, but still doing well in the race, and locked in while she was at maximum value. She probably also knew to put effort into the relationship from the beginning rather than just throwing him demands.

Women even back in the 1950's were starting to get entitlement attitudes and each year it got increasingly worse and with full fledged victim-feminism kicking off in the 1960's, that's all she wrote as things just degenerated year-by-year. The boomers mock the millennials as snowflakes but the seeds of doom were planted by the Greatest and Boomer generations.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

The boomers mock the millennials as snowflakes but the seeds of doom were planted by the Greatest and Boomer generations

That whole generational blame-game is a big waste of time.

There were (and are) decent people in every generation who were (and are) against the civilizational rot, and they are of course always outnumbered by the people who suck.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I agree with the statement that the generational blame game is a waste of time - its also well put.

The whole 'boomer' 'genX' 'millenial' thing is stupid. It just sets one age group against another.

All the while, the real problems are being masked. The reason why we are living in a Femocracy are varied and complex. The chief reason is that there are enough females that are willing to be 'single issue' voters. That is, they are willing to vote for any party at all as long as they are convinced that they are 'pro woman' . Farmers are another example of single issue voters, which is why they have disproportionate representation. But there aren't that many farmers, so its not a huge deal.

The reason why single issue women voters is a huge deal? Because 50% of the population is female, and if enough of them are single issue voters, its enough to tip the balance so that you end up with a Femocracy. This is what has happened in the all modern western democracies.

the result is that we end up with political parties that are terrified of touching the skewed divorce settlements that favour women, or the fact that women get away with murder (sometimes literally) in the legal system or have enjoy open discrimination which is expressly forbidden by the constitution (enjoying asymmetrical retirement benefits for example).

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Sounds like a wonderful marriage. Also seems like doing the “wise” thing makes later life a lot better. Imagine these old bats when death begins to be a prominent part of their life, and they have no husband or children to care about them, or cheer on in life.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Your mom sounds like she was a Real Woman. In other words, someone who was feminine while being strong and caring while being dutiful.

Outside of the Amish community (and that is being spoiled rapidly) any woman like that would be lynched by The Hive.

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

RIP Mom. (and dad).

And damn, that sounds like the kind of wife that powered the rising economy of the USA in the early years. Nuclear family, there is no substitute.

I'm envious, I doubt that I could find a woman like that today, honestly.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

You can find them overseas, but bringing them back to America does carry risk. But it’s playing Russian roulette with normal rules versus Russian roulette with 3 chambers loaded (by marrying an American woman).

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Also, by the time a woman is 23, it’s likely that she has had around a decade of dealing with men (if she is attractive). Boys go crazy once the girls hit puberty. A lot of 7’s in high school get treated like royalty as a result.

A 30 year old man has likely dealt primarily in rejection. Many men don’t even start dating until their early 20’s. I didn’t until I was 24.

So, in many cases, the woman still has more experience than the man. Even with a 7 year age gap.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I been seeing lots of these types of women trolling Lori(anti-feminist youtuber trad/con wife). They're getting really desperate. They no longer have exclusive control of the narrative like they did on reddit. Everybody knows women were made to be fully ready to reproduce by ages 14-16 and men by ages 16-18. It's just biology 101. With the age of consent laws and statutory rape we just allowed women to avoid accountability for their reproductive choices. This post is just a continuation of that line of thinking. Now we are expected to believe that they can't be held accountable until they're 90.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

What’s funny is that the world is holding them accountable. It’s why they’re so obsessed about “their” men going for younger women, foreign women, etc. They can still lie to themselves, as long as they can still get sex. But sex without marriage is not the goal of women.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

They thought they were the only option for men. The lesson in all of this is to always have options. Scarcity breeds malcontents. Abundance breeds compliance.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

And I guarantee without exception the loudest of these slags was perfectly content to play musical dicks in their teens and 20's, and now that music has stopped, they cannot accept that they do not own the men in their age group and are not owed a damn thing by those same men that they themselves owed nothing to in their 20's.

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Isn't that the truth. "But I had hopped on Chads' dicks for 10 years! YOU owe me for that sacrifice. I was victimized and groooooommmeeeddd. Man up and pay for his children and my care"

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Was it Sweden or Norway that wanted to ban Thai brides? One of those countries had such an influx of foreign brides that the laydeez were scared that their men were abandoning them.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

It was Sweden

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

....which is hilariously hypocritical, since those same Swedish wahmyns had voted overwhelmingly in favor of allowing Middle Eastern rapefugees to come into Sweden over the past decade or so.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Hot take:

The women knew full well what the refugees were going to do, but they are so starved for masculinity that they will eagerly choose rape to have something close to masculinity and male sexual assertiveness.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Likely true, but all subconsciously.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

And then it’s the job of the men that they say are misogynists to “protect” them.

From what? The diversity that they love?

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