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kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 1y ago Stickied
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UpsideDB Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Guys are already looking at 50% chance of getting a divorce if they commit. Are they really going to take that chance on a woman who obviously prefers variety?
You stacked the cards so guys would lose more often and would lose far more a majority of the time. You made guys start bringing their own snacks and drinks to your get togethers. Guys stopped having fun coming over for your poker night so they stopped coming over for your poker night.
Now you've got a weird game night with no snacks, no drinks, no games happening. Just one old hag stomping her feet screaming "WHY ISNT ANYONE HAVING FUN?! I'M HAVING FUN!!!!?"
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Basic economics. The value for heavily used goods declines over time. Let’s be honest too, regardless of her edit, those goods are heavily used. Yet another example of women thinking they can put sex tokens in the machine and a relationship will pop out.
Doricel 1y ago
Why would you buy what everybody rented?
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
News flash! Men want sex. If only there was some way of getting them to stick around afterwards...if only the billions of other women who managed to do it could let us in on their little secret...
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
But if all women held out for marriage before sex, the vast majority of women will never get to bang a Chad or Tyrone as the Chads and Tyrones will not jump through commitment hoops to have sex with anything less than a Stacy, the only reason average and sometimes below average women get sex from the Chads or Tyrones now is because they are giving sex away because they sexually desire the Chads and Tyrones.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Well, if the goal is to bang Chad then yes. If the goal is to get a man to stick around then no. I may have the goal of putting my dick in every porn star and prostitute I like, and I can do that, but it doesn't mean I'm going to get genuine desire from them. What this chick is doing is putting her dick in prostitutes and expecting them to fall in love... over and over again... and then wondering why prostitutes don't fall in love with customers.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Hook-up culture gave women the social permission to give their sex away which allowed them to bang hotter men than they are likely to ever enjoy back when sex only after marriage was the norm, the problem is that those hot guys don't have any incentive to commit because they have so many other options and in many cases, they would not have bothered with most of those women in the first place if commitment was required first.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It's wild.
If you say to a man "look, I like you enough to only let you put your penis in me" most men would put up with a fair ration of shit and stick around. If a woman is finding that men leave her even though she's offering sex, it means one of two things:.
The sex is trash.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
There's also the fact that the woman can turn off the sex spigot any time she wants to, and if that happens after the man has committed to her in some way, the legal system will hold him to his end of the bargain. We've actually accepted the idiotic notion that spouses don't have sexual obligations to each other, but that husbands (and even ex-husbands) have financial obligations that cannot be discharged without the permission of a judge.
Since most women are willing to give up the goods without securing commitment... and society considers the promises that women make to men to be unenforceable anyway... and women who are not virgins when they marry are very likely to initiate divorce... men have adjusted. The men in the top 20% of attractiveness who have no moral compunction about fornication are spinning women like plates and getting laid like tile, and the rest are either taking what they can when they can get it or going without.
Oh well... this is the arrangement that women said they wanted, and the masses of average men foolishly gave it to them under the mistaken belief that they would be among those who reap the sexual bounty. The Apex Fallacy isn't entirely restricted to women.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This is exactly how it works with prostitutes, btw.
nicknack 1y ago
Every woman has a different reason her fuckers leave after the get the only thing they want, but it always boils down to themselves no matter which way the cookie crumbles.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago Stickied
One bargaining chip women used to be able to bring was that she could give a man exclusive access to sex with her. And by exclusive, I do not mean just within the relationship. I mean she would not have had sex with any other man (or men) before the relationship. The arrangement would be her exclusive sexual access to his also exclusive commitment. This arrangement provides benefits to both the man and the woman, though with some accepted tradeoffs (he has to provide for her with his commitment and she has to be a virgin before marriage).
Right now, most women cannot honestly offer this sort of thing as they have abandoned the idea of keeping sex exclusive to marriage (or the equivalent of a highly committed relationship), so they have a much more difficult time having men want to commit to them. "If a woman gave sex to who knows how many other guys before him, what makes her giving it to me special?" That question is the reason many men leave right after the sex, as they see no added benefits to a relationship. Such men are often not looking for a relationship, especially with these sorts of women, so women who give out sex too freely are playing a losing game if they want a relationship. And usually, these women want relationships at some point in their lives. Even if they do not want them immediately, they eventually will seek that out, though often in vain when they discover that leading with sex has not honed them for seeking a proper relationship.
So yes, it is the woman who is the reason for why the man leaves, though often that reason was determined well before there was the encounter in the first place. Most men do not prefer to commit to sluts, even those who would actively seek them out for sex. And it is rather easy for a woman to prevent herself from getting pumped and dumped. She simply needs to have restraint from such men before there is any pump that happens.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
It is easier to become an athlete earlier in life than to become one after having become extremely lazy and fat later in life. These women are destined to be pumped and dumped because that is what they have been raised to be. One cannot fault men for looking at a product for what it is and only paying its worth.
Doricel 1y ago
Men who respect themselves and worked hard to improve themselves aren't gonna choose a woman that "rides the entire amusement park" as they say.
Successful men have far better options.
reignoferror00 1y ago
You've gone out with guys from work, school, and friends groups. Guess one thing all these guys have in common? They already know you somewhat and are even more aware of your reputation. You've exhausted all your known men, you'll have to try strangers. Work on changing yourself before attempting that.
Bet you dollars to donuts at some earlier time one or two of these guys may have had interest in you, beyond sex, "as a person" but them showing interest very like devalued them in your eyes. You also thought you could do better and didn't realize they were what the pinnacle of what your level/value was for a relationship - even a short one.
Here's a hint - messages don't mean shit. If being around you seems like work to them when sex isn't part of the deal, you should start looking at you. What would a guy might have beyond a fuckbuddy if they wanted to stick around with you? An unbiased appraisal of your personality, expectations of men, and habits/lifestyle would be a good start. That's just the starting point; real work begins after that.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
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