Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
Rules for submission:
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago Stickied
This is the kind of advice more young men need. The odds of you turning a girl "friend" in to a girlfriend is quite low, especially when she turns down the idea of you being more than a friend to her. You are far more likely to have prolonged pain and frustration by trying to change this sort of thing.
I will go a step further and say that men and women really should not seek to be friends. Yes, the lies about equality will tell us that men and women have no real differences other than what is socially constructed, but this is certainly not the case. Men and women are indeed different, and this includes how they interact with their own sex versus the opposite sex. This will often create an uneven friendship where the man will provide the emotional support that he normally would to a woman while not getting the sexual reciprocation in return. Whether or not a woman is aware of this, a man is very unlikely to do this same thing to one of his man friends. With male friends, the sexual dynamics are not at play like they would be with women in general.
This is often why men get frustrated when they are providing the traditional boyfriend treatment to a woman while not getting the traditional girlfriend treatment to a woman. It is not that women are obligated to "return the favor" in these cases, but rather that there is a lack of recognition by society (and especially women in society) with what is happening. Rather than telling the man that he should not be placing this sort of investment with a woman who is not his girlfriend, he is told that he should "value the friendship." Well, the other part of the problem is that a woman cannot truly provide the type of friendship a man needs either. That sort of thing requires another man. So when a man engages in "friendship" with a woman, he is providing the emotional validation to a woman while getting neither a proper friendship or sexual relationship out of it.
Those who are too heavily invested in the ideal of equality may find the idea that a woman cannot fulfill a man's friendship needs offensive. But when you recognize that men and women are not interchangeable even when it comes to friendship, you can then move away from the idea that men and women should seek friendship between each other. Men who come to this understanding can help themselves and other young men not fall in the trap of playing a frustrating game where the outcome is almost certain failure.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I have treasured women friends who are absolutely non-sexual since they're older along with older male friends who provide a helpful perspective on what's (mostly wrong) with modern society. They're like time machines. Another good purpose for women friends is as wingwomen: If she's a (true) friend, she'll be an asset in fulfilling women's pre-selection requirements. Unlike for men where if a woman is with another man that tends to drive (at least timid) men away from approaching her, women will regard a man whose in the presence of a woman (or even several women) as validated as desirable.
Chad_Bodmor 1y ago
Women flirt (lightly) with their male friends to hold them in orbit. That's her gravity, that someday, it might happen. If she doesn't give you that hope that your relationship might go somewhere then you'd reconcile with the fact that
And boom just like that you're out of orbit dating another girl, and she is getting 0 of your time resources and attention.
Simple rule. Once you make the jump to reveal your romantic intentions there are only two outcomes. She says yes and you start dating. She says no or one of the many euphemisms for "no" like "I really don't know if it's the right time" (see that if you wait it might be the right time) "I've never really thought of you that way" (see that she might if you stick around) "I want to just be friends for now" (see that she covered now but not later)
All these are "NO" with a side of "when I'm 29 and desperate if you are truly the best I can do.....then.....maybe, I'll let you marry me so I can take half your stuff"
Anyway like I said, she either says yes, and you start dating, or she says no or one of the plethora of girl euphemisms for "NO" and you thank her. Say something like "I'm really looking for romance not casual friendship" when she puts out whatever version of "Let's be friends" politely excuse yourself ghost her and move on. If she asks about you later (as they often do, as they want to real back in orbital men whom have broken free) just tell her you are busy working on other relationships and don't really have the time or inclination to "be her friend" besides you don't want to make a potential romantic partner confused.
If you have romantic feelings for a girl, it is your weakness to be exploited like a strip mine. Either date or dump. There is no reality where you remain more than acquaintances.
Save friendship with girls for girls YOU friend zone. Not for girls that friend zone you.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
For some men, the friendzone is their sexual strategy. It's their version of playing the long game. All of us have approach anxiety, and many of us here have failed to close the deal with a girl. Their strategy is to get to know then first, be their friend, get emotionally close to them and then the sex will come later and they are patient. It is awe inspiring the level of patience and waiting they will do to finally get down her pants. The manosphere have told us over and over that this strategy DOES NOT WORK. Once in the friendzone, it is almost impossible to escape from it, although there two ways for a guy to escape the friendzone:
Hard Reset: Basically disappear out of her life and go on a self improvement junket then re-approach her years later now a new buff, muscular Chad with a great job and new found wealth.
Lastly, I have always seen guys in the friendzone as predatory and creepy. Like the OP that is dying for her ass. He is willing like a hunter to track and stalk their prey, until that moment of weakness, when the right combination of horniness, booze, dry spell, self esteem issues, etc for a girl to drop her guard then BANG! he is down her pants and finally gets the ass he has been lusting for years.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
And on top of the last blurb of advice, never ever play this game even for a second with a woman that you know or have reason to strongly suspect has had one night stands in the past with men that did not and were never going to commit to her.
It's one of the clearest indicators in woman-speak that she does not respect you in the slightest if she makes you jump through any hoops at all to get a even crumb of what she gave to other men for nearly nothing.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup. If I found out my girl had a ONS, I would be wicked upset. Even if it wasn’t exactly hard work to get action and if I wasn’t exactly pushing to get it early, the fact that there was any slow down at all to getting my D rode would be insulting.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied
Knock it off or get banned.
Read the rules on the sidebar, which you can see by hitting the button at the top right that looks like a half-black, half-white square.
@IBelieveInTheFallen - if he does this shit again, DM me or one of the other mods if I haven't been active.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
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Aphr00dita 1y ago
Man you need multiple women. then if it still doesnt go away you need proper consultations. You came here to discuss and learn. There is a lot of good things in front of you, yet if you won't recognize what's the specific problem it will weigh you down for looong.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
If you see anyone trying to amog you here, please tag or send a dm to @typo-magashiv or me or the other mods tagged in this thread. We do not tolerate disrespect. They will be banned.
Moving on to the topic in discussion: either a woman has desire for you or she does not. It's that simple. Even virgins desire. If they value you, they will act on it. Traditional virgins express an interest in getting married soon to lock their desired man down. Look for desire. If she is playing hard to get, move on. There are going to be women who desire you. You don't have to waste time on women who do not or cannot make up their mind.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
cc: @IBelieveInTheFallen
Looks like I'm sleepier than I thought.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Don't try to be an approach machine. Have fun. That's the end goal anyway. If you are going to do it, you might as well enjoy it. If you enjoy it, you might even become playful about it.
DextroShade 1y ago
Never, EVER let yourself get put in the friendzone. If a bitch tries it, simply say "I don't want to be your FRIEND" and leave.
nicknack 1y ago
I learned this early thanks to AOL Instant messenger. I was like 11 or some shit and friendzoned hard by this hot chick named Crystal. We talked day and night and I was crushed when she told me she likes this guy I know. Never let myself get friendzoned again after that, and I probably didn’t even jack off yet.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
Apparently there are "respectful girls that are not narcissistic"
nicknack 1y ago
The friend zone is the best thing for women. They get all the benefits of a relationship without having to give sex in return. What a good deal. That’s basically like when you meet a hot girl at the beach and she’s going down on you 10 minutes later, but women don’t have to be on vacation or extremely chad / rich to get their ideal scenario.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
Which is why you not only see women deny that there is such a thing as a friend zone, but will actively shame men who are upset about it. They do not want to think of themselves or portray themselves as non-virtuous beings who would engage in such acts of manipulation. Men becoming wise to such uneven "friendships" will cause them to lose the benefits that come from stringing men along with the idea that their "friendship" is just so valuable, while he is expending himself in ways that should be done to his girlfriend.
orbilius 1y ago
It's the exact gender-flip version of the fuck zone, which is the best thing for men. If you can get a girl who is willing to let you smash with no commitment and no drama, it's a great setup - but it's not in the girl's best interest
nicknack 1y ago
I was going to say it’s like the fuck zone, but honestly it’s even better than the fuck zone is for men. To get a girl in the fuck zone you still have to go through the dog and pony show of getting to know each other, arranging the date, paying for her drinks or even food, listening to her bullshit. That’s all stuff for her benefit. In the friendzone situation the guy literally benefits absolutely jack shit.
That’s why I compared it to the instant sex you can get in vacation spots where you don’t each know each others name. I’ve had girls on tinder invite me directly over to their house to fuck after like 2 messages, walked in their house and started fucking, this is also comparable.