Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
It's still plenty. Sure, there may not be enough time to talk about all you childhood traumas and ease in how your slut phase began still in highschool and lasted until last week, or to dissect the latest frenemies drama in your life, or how overbearing your mother is... But a reasonable person would make whatever little time you two have together count. But since you're already thinking this is a problem, how soon until that barely unemployed gym bro showing you attention starts giving you tingles because you're so lonely?
OPPTRP 1y ago
Funny thing is both 2-4 times a week is way too much. If he did that she would have got bored 10 years ago but because her clocks ticking. But yeah 1-2 times a week when you don’t live together is plenty damn
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
She is beta bux mode and has baby rabies. Gym-muscles-club-bouncer and bartender bro will the side guy while she appears chaste and tells the next sucker "I'm not like that' then ends dinner early to go get banged out at gym bro's apartment he shares with three other guys that have a bedroom rotation for when one of them brings home a slut to bang. She wants a kid NOW and needs someone to pay and provide a stable square life in the burbs NOW.
Biomechanics is God. Biological clock is real. If she wanted to be married to a good man and have kids in her early 30's, she should have started looking a solid 5 years ago. Plus in this society, it takes a good 3 to 5 years for a man to get serious enough to marry and have kids with her. This would have been in her mid 20's which would have put her right in the middle of her CC ride and that would have ruined all her fun. Now she is scrambling and trying to pin down guys that have options.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This is why women should marry at 14-16. It's traditional, they are biologically capable of starting a family, and if they've been trained well can easily run a home. Less baggage, accept authority well, plenty of time to have 13 kids if you want, way less CC temptation. No debt, no useless college indoctrination, less concern about money. And honestly, a woman doesn't mature mentally much past that age.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I know women ask the hivemind all the time about shit, but fucking hell. She admits that she wants to "lean in" but she'll still ask randos on the internet to influence her decision.
This is why social media is a curse, in the "old days" she'd commit, be happy and not worry about what some cat-mom 600 miles away thought about her burgeoning relationship.
I love the internet, but I don't like some of the bullshit built on top of TCP/IP.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yeah I liked the internet better when you had to configure the TCP/IP connection yourself.
Kept the riff-raff out. Now that any room temp IQ moron can buy a smartphone and be online posting their mental diarrhea within minutes, it's gone to shit.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Even worse. They now have ChatGPT to help them spew the diarrhea.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
How old are you? I remember days logging in via a T1000 terminal over a 28.8kbps modem (advanced at the time) 80x24 screen to open a csh into USENET. I'd say that about 95% of the people on the platform were from either corporate and academic environments that provided "internet" access and most were highly blue pilled or PC. (A term that was relatively new at the time).
Then the "AOL" weenies who got those floppy disks with "3000 free hours!" started to login. There were chat programs such as ICQ and multi-player gaming such as xtrek. Back in Eastern Europe, I remember wonderful internet cafes with nice drinks and the men would all be playing multi-player games and the girls would be on ICQ chat. I even still have an ICQ chat client around somewhere but haven't fired it up in years.
You're right that when smartphones came out, that was that.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Just close your eyes and think of the lovely sound of that modem connecting.
And then hearing it over and over because it keeps dropping or SOMEONE PICKED UP THE PHONE DARNIT.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Early 40's. First computer was a hand me down from relatives that didn't even have a dedicated hard drive, it booted off of those big ass 8" floppies. No games, and had an ancient dot matrix printer that at least was useful for printing out school reports, even if the readability was shit compared to laser printers the school lab had. Parents were shocked I had it up and running the first night we got it. (they had zero tech affinity)
Once I was in the military and had disposable cash, (very late 90's) I bought a Win 98SE PC off of a company member going on PCS and learned how to setup modern hardware from there, including how to configure TCP/IP settings. I broke that damn thing so many times that I had my software disks laid out in a specific install order for a few years.
reignoferror00 1y ago
I'm mid 50's.
Usenet and things like that I vaguely remember seeing - don't think it was during my first attempt at university out of high school so it was likely the one at college a few years later. Was something I poked around with a bit but never really got into. I have a better memory of pictures loading line by line or when slower practically pixel by pixel.
Latter high school I had data entry class with punch cards and computer science with Commodore PET computers - games and programs loaded on cassette tape.
Think the first computer at home was a VIC 20. Later we got an Apple II clone.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
My college computer was a Quadra 605, installed a network card so it would "surf"!
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
To be fair to this girl she is concerned about her biological clock.
If she spends 5 years with him and things don't work out, she'll be 35 and past her best for making kids, so she's considering someone who is ready to go for kids quicker than he is.
For once this isn't hypergamy at work, this is the old biological clock a-ticking.
GettoNiga 1y ago
Isn't the reddit ad line: dive into anything?
She should have dive into anything worthy time ago, so she wouldn't have to make live or die decision hanging on a thread over cliff.
Yeah there is many factors that can go wrong: guy could be tinder swindler or even simply die of heart arrest in 4y.
Given the guy is average Joe and stick to his word,.she will have 5y to prove she is worthy material.
But she is not only worried about him but also about her. It is 5y to go and in last 15 (average case scanario) she couldnt do anything good consistently. Now it would mean working out hard on declining looks, be feminine, not going out, not fucking randos. She experiences cognitive disonance, she have never considered giving these things up. She was ready to lock him up, so she could work on him like her friends manipulate their men.
I see this girl in my gym. Cant say for sure her age but likely 25 to 35 and looking good. She works out fucking loads of hours, but while she does that she looks misereable as fuck.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
To be faaaaaaair!
Anyway, that dumb bitch should have been concerned 7 years ago. This is her one chance at a buzzer-beater as far as securing commitment, but it's likely too late for kids no matter what. She
thinksfeeeeeeels that she might be able to secure another man who's willing to commit and crank out some kids in the next 3-4 years. The kids just aren't likely to happen at all, and the odds of finding a man as "good" as this one who is also willing to commit to her are almost as slim.Pic889 1y ago
Her failure to plan is not your emergency. The fact she waited until 32 to realise she has a biological clock is her problem, not yours. In other words, the man she is currently dating has no obligation to marry and have kids with a person he barely knows (1-2 years) because she failed to plan.
Also, this is a warning to be careful with 30+ women: They will do anything to rope you in into a marriage on their schedule... they'll put on their good girl act to make you sign on the dotted line and then show their true colors.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Going to repost a reply I made to a comment on the shithole site that's very related to this:
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I initially made an opening comment saying that exact line (“failure to plan…”) but deleted it because I wanted to see if someone else would “beat me to it”.
The lesson of this woman’s situation is that women have been trained by the culture to not date with urgency and intent to marry in their 20’s in order to make young men thirsty. Back in the late 80’s, a woman friend of mine said that it was “popular” for college age girls to say “I don’t want to ever get married!” so that they weren’t too “easy” for men.
“Playing hard to get” is a game of chicken and in this case, her car is about to hit the wall.
What makes this situation especially interesting is that this guy is aware of his value with women’s hypergamous nature and even probably playing the games right back at her. For example, the shit test “We’re not having sex tonight” is to see if the guy sticks around and still tries to have sex with her. It’s entirely possible he’d at least get engaged to her in a year or so but he’s not going to say so. He’s seeing if she’s a biological clock ticker saying only what he wants to hear so she can get commitment from him before revealing her true self. This guy is an RP Unit.
If women want decent men who will commit quickly to marriage and take a roll of family court dice, then that’s what their 20’s are for.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yup. Women playing musical dicks in their 20's is a great way for them to end up with slim to no pickings in their 30's for commitment. Especially since men are learning how to ID a woman that is settling HARD just to get a retirement fund, and the first clue is she is over 30 and single.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
yeah, absolutely.
Yep. I tried hard to meet girls and settle down when I was 25, but they were all too busy fucking Chad and LJBF me.
Absolutely
Women of all ages do this, not just 30+.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Bad news, buddy: slut years start as young as 13 or 14, so by the time they're 25, they can still be used up slores.
I mentioned 1 ex in a different reply, but she was 23 at the time. She pressed me for my n-count, and after I finally gave it, I asked for hers in return. I was onto women's games, so I added the caveat "and no bullshit! Blowjobs count, anal counts, handjobs count, everything counts."
After a few minutes of silently thinking and counting to herself (with me trying to hide how increasingly anxious and grossed-out I was getting), she eventually replied "more than 30, less than 40."
This, along with other things she said and did, relegated her to just practice chick.
The very next ex after her was only 19 years old, and gave me the same answer about n-count when the topic came up.
Yeah, you have to go off more than just age to determine how much a woman has played musical dicks on the cock carousel.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
Nahhhh......she's forcing marriage when she sees a good deal FOR HER. Women never "truly value" men. It's not in their nature. Even at 25.
The only difference is that she's better at planning ahead.
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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
There is a huge difference between valuing a guy and valuing the resources (money, support, protection) that a guy can offer.
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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
If they cared about the guy they wouldn't subject him to marriage.
Women do not marry "because they like the guy". They always marry taller, richer providers. And they do their best to avoid a prenup because it benefits them to do so.
Yes. Stable job. That's worth a lot to a girl. Is she pushing for marriage with a prenup and opting out of future support in the event of divorce? OF COURSE FUCKING NOT...... She wants a male-provided retirement fund.
And she wants that support contractually obliged to continue. With a CONTRACT. Written in LAW. Does that sound like love to you?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Matty is right. One of my exes was 23 at the time, and pushing hard that she was looking for marriage.
Thing is, she was a total slutbag and could not be trusted.
There was no Red Pill back then, but she set off all kinds of alarm bells.
Just being young isn't enough.
Funnily enough, the woman I ended up marrying was over 30 and divorced. However, she treated me better than any of my exes ever had, and was able to prove to me that her divorce was truly her ex's fault. Over 30 and divorced, with less baggage than several women in their late teens and early twenties from my past.
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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago
How is this a win for the guy?? He could do so much better with younger hotter girls.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
This is a good example of why men date younger and prefer to. This is also a good example of what is important to the sexes.
So, technically, he is 29 and she is 32. He is planning on building his wealth with side hustles and wants a soldier to have his back. She is interested because he has potential, is kind and she likes his vision (more on that later), but is more concerned about not having enough time. She wants more time with the guy even though he is clear with his vision and why he wants what he wants and she is afraid of missing her chance in making her mark in the world (by giving birth to a child).
I get that we are hearing one side of the story, but I do not see how this woman adding anything of value to the life of this guy. All she talks about is how he adds to her life but I do not see a word of how she adds to his. She mentions that he cooks, but has not said a word on cooking for him. Also, we hear that they both want to build first gen wealth. We know his plan. What is hers? Is she planning to hustle like him? Or is her vision contingent on finding a man before her expiry date who can provide it to her? If it is, what exactly is she bringing to the table, especially compared to someone younger? He is going to be better off playing the long game by not getting involved with someone who is more concerned about the immediate future.
Einsamer 1y ago
Marrying someone with lots of (future) income, what else? :-)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Another way of putting it is that the woman who dreams of a man who provides her with everything she could ever want, has nothing she can possibly offer to him (or just as important, leverage to demand commitment.) All the masculine things she could offer, such as business success or education, is something he already provides for himself. All she has to offer is sex which is given up within a few weeks of dating, at most, otherwise he moves on.
About a month ago, I found a 2nd example of a 30+ woman trying to somehow leverage sex for commitment by withholding it from him and she says he wriggled off the hook. AGAIN. The “deny sex until commitment” game only works for young women who have maximum value.
Successful men hitting their early 30’s are in a similar position to women in their 20’s in that he has a valuable asset and he needn’t “give it away” too cheaply. So this is a 3rd example I have found in the wild of beta bucks men who, “KNOW THEIR WORTH!!!”
This situation reminds me of a friend whose 27 year old foreign-born daughter is a lovely blonde who lived with a guy for something like 5 years. From what I can surmise, she’s wife material. She meant well, but she didn’t demand commitment or perhaps she dodged a bullet because maybe this guy wouldn’t have been reliable husband and she’d be a single mom now. She’s not the type to get on the CC or sit around. She’ll hopefully take what she learned from this experience and find a more reliable man and get wifed up at 30. Not ideal, but not bad.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Her last paragraph will be repeated when she is seeking a divorce. Any woman that needs advice from the internet on what to do with her life is not wife material.
KSal90 1y ago
I'm getting the "He's not rich now but he might be later so IDK lol" vibes
winteryknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Why would a man build up a fortune of his own, from age 18 to 30, and then give any of it away to a woman who was chasing guys (using premarital sex) who never committed to her, until she hit 32? If you make your money on your own, you don't share it with strangers.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I hate the word "amazing" because of the way women misuse it.
Doricel 1y ago
I think the dude should ditch her and focus on his hustle and building wealth, once he'll get his real estate situation figured out he could get a 21-23 year old girl EASY. He should spend his other free time in the gym.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I read that twice and I'm thinking that this dude has already met another chick and is trying to organise his scheduling a bit better!
This girl (32f) is already a plate but doesn't yet now it! She's about to get put on rotation.
She's just a dumb chick. She's been doing this for a long time (32f) and STILL doesn't know how it works. Which is why she got to 32 and nobody has married her. You know what sis? Nobody will. You're yesterdays newspaper. If a guys can talk their way into your panties, then why would they bother to marry you?
reignoferror00 1y ago
Are other questions she should be asking?
How about - Is this too good to be true? In what ways will I fuck this up? Do I have bigger worries, issues and problems besides things not fitting exactly into my "ideal" world? Do I actually give a fuck about him or do I just see what he does and can do for me?
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This is an example of the difference between dating with intent to marry and dating for selfish reasons. If she had been dating with intent to marry she would be dating marriage-minded men.
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