Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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DextroShade 1y ago
This bitch isn't worth McDonald's.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It never occurs to these women that the reason they're single is because their demands far outstrip their value
orbilius 1y ago
They're never really single though. They've always got "friends" they fuck with. They're always getting approached and getting offers. They're constantly invited to parties and stuff - in Miami (where this video is from) they're getting taken out on yachts.
They're not really single.
But if they ever reach that point in their life where they wish that just one guy (that they find attractive) actually loved them, then their little hamster starts to spin, wondering why that's never happened to them.
Now, logic would say, "it's because you're fucking out of your league - the guys in your league would love you." But the hamster doesn't do logic, he only does RPMs.
So, the explanation that they came up with (and when Female Dating Strategy was still a thing, they used to say this outright) is that the reason they aren't getting what they want, is that actually, we've been settling this whole time. And the way to fix this is ...demand more.
That's right! They actually look back on their lives, and they remember that time they met that athlete in a club, and fucked him in the limo ...and then went back into the club and never heard from him again - they look back on that and they think, "damn girl! You could have landed that guy if only you'd demanded more."
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
And this is why TRP works and FDS doesn't.
FDS says "demand more" and actively encourages women to offer less. TRP says "offer more" and tells men the reality that women only want men when they're valuable and that you're not going to change that fact.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If a product is not selling, the price is too high.
voskresenie 1y ago
Or the buyer/seller dynamic is not applicable. For instance, dumps don't buy your trash, you pay them to take it away. Society used to understand this, but the practice of dowries has unfortunately fallen out of favor.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
most women in US seem to come with a negative dowry. (debt)
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Even when they don't have these ridiculous demands even their prospects outstrip their value. The Chad that spent nothing on them for the lay has too many options despite meeting their demands or most of them
Most women who don't have utterly ridiculous demands still fail to calibrate their demands to the level of prospect they can both acquire AND keep
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
They act like whores with lousy customer service and wonder why they get treated like whores with lousy customer service.
It takes a special kind of stupid to screw up being a sex for money dispenser.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
Apparently, we're not paying for her value, but for the value of the L'Oriel, Maybelline, and Dior plastered all over her face.
Justanaverageguy 1y ago
There is absolutely NO excuse for a woman to be single this day and age.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Plenty of them, but all of them her fault
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
That's almost it, but how many women do you know can accomplish all 3? And that's before we even ask what she can do for us. That's just preliminary, that's just so we even bother looking at the rest of her dating application
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Thats a good point. You might need to give more detail
"There is no excuse for a woman under 28 to be unmarried in this day and age"
because an ok looking woman under 28 can always get married. There will always be a market for that. She might not like what she is offered, but there is a market for her.
This is what women do not understand. They think that they can play the field and THEN, when the field no longer wants what they offer, then they can settle down. They use their value at their highest point (20 to 27 years old) to slut around.
voskresenie 1y ago
Yet again, they demonstrate their feminine incapacity for empathy. Women go from looking for exciting, sexy Chad to boring, good-dad Gary when they hit their late 20s, so they assume men undergo a similar change in what they're looking for — from a hot vixen to a homely mother, which conveniently corresponds with their change from hot to not. But first off, getting ugly doesn't make you a better mother, and second, men don't undergo this change. All men want an attractive wife, and most want a good mother. They don't change priorities. The same man who is willing to settle for a plain but nurturing woman at 30 was also willing to do so at 20, and the ones who aren't willing to make that trade at 20 won't become willing at 30, or 40, or ever. Dual mating strategy is a uniquely female phenomenon.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
In fairness, I don't think that dual mating strategy is uniquely female. Most men get very excited by porn stars and hotties and baddies. They want to fuck them, but not marry them.
For a union that involves raising children, we're looking for different things than we are looking for on Friday night.
Is that not a dual mating strategy? lets be honest and fair.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If you look at psych research, generally speaking, women are most attracted to men around their own age, while men remain attracted to younger women. So a 40 year old woman actually sees a 40 year old man as more appealing than a 20 year old man.
Derived from that, I would assume, is that women base their value assessment of a man based off of what signifies high value at certain ages. In high school, it’s who can jump the highest. As we age, our value is determined differently, evolving into “who has the nicest home?”.
So when we’re each 18, we like the same thing. But as they get older; their likes change (and it’s not just AF/BB, women actually do begin to prefer the “nice guy” as they age…to an extent) and they begin to value the traits that make older men attractive. So they just assume that the positive traits they’ve gained over time are just as marketable. Spoiler alert: they aren’t.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
My personal take:
Not all "gained" "positive" traits are marketable in general, even count as positive in the first place. In Air Transport sector, it has been shown again and again gained experience in one aircraft type has led to fatal accidents in other aircrafts, even if they were very similar. In fact, a big part of aircraft design process is to make new aircrafts not too different from old ones (which is ironically the cause of other accidents, like the 737 Max issue). Now of course, an airline may allow a pilot with basic training elsewhere to get further specialized by them. But that is merely a cost cutting measure, where the benefit of a pilot who is trained from zero by the airline to the passenger may not be worth the cost of training to the airline itself (I hope the sentence was coherent).
But if the airline was to serve, say very high paying chartered customers, then it won't work that way. They would want to train a pilot from ground up.
This si the same reason why firms like McKenzie etc prefer to recruit fresh blood.
Now this is of course heretic speak. How dare i "train a woman", and not pay for her training elsewhere. But the thing is Harmony is far more important that "acquired traits". For a woman she has the safeguards of a "civilized" society in place that will continue to press and wring a man to extract his value, to transfer it to the woman. So for the woman it makes sense that the man is trained and built without her involvement, falls in the cold pressing machine, and she can come later, stand near the mil, and catch the oil.
For her, harmony etc means nothing - because she's their for the oil. She has no need to worry about the olive.
For the man, if he is anything better than a conformist obeying consumer, this is hardly a fulfilling experience.
This, while i do not have the tools to prove false, I will be very weary of taking as a guiding principle. There are too many variables, and changing circumstances can't be separated from a changing "preference". There are methods that can attempt to do it in case of epidemiology, but i'd be very careful in applying them for whamyn. Example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1239917/
Thing is, women will vigorously handwave, and make faces to tell us how great it is and how lucky we should be that she's "maturing" that she wants us - but in a basic level, I can't help but find it disgusting.
voskresenie 1y ago
Agreed. This is essentially what I was trying to say.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The best piece of reasearch I have seen on this is 'Datacyclsm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dataclysm-Identity-What-Online-Offline-Selves/dp/0385347391
TLDR: Young women want older men, until they hit mid 40s, then they start looking at men that are a few years younger than them. Men look at women that are 23, and their preference never changes.
So you are slightly wrong when you say that when we are 18 we both want the same thing - 18 year old girls are most attracted to 25 year old guys.
AsianDude 1y ago
Nah it's easier for women like this to ask "Where are all the Good Men (TM)?".
I had this early 20's 4/10 chick from an average family background come up to me and whine, "It's so hard to find a good guy. All the popular guys are swarming with other girls and don't approach me etc." I point at my younger bro, late-20s, 1.75m, computer engineer at a large MNC, millionaire family background, average slim build, and ask, "Isn't he a good guy? Why don't you consider him?". She didn't say anything back to me and just walked away... Seriously, not sure what some women are expecting nowadays.
For my most recent 1st date, I brought an early 20s college girl to a US$10 - $15 spot for a very light breakfast, at around 8:30am. My date spent about US$7 to book a badminton court nearby because I mentioned that I liked playing badminton, and we transitioned there at 10am for a short game.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If your younger bro wants a family, he might be better off becoming a Passport Bro cos dating Western women is increasingly a shit-show, even if he finds a young woman willing to marry him where he lives, the laws and FOMO on riding the CC will likely cause her to seek a divorce after some years since our society promotes that sort of shitty behaviour.
AsianDude 1y ago
While I have spent many years in the West, my bro is based in Asia. Neither of us have seriously dated a Western woman.
Can you imagine how much attention (for marriage) a Western educated Asian guy with a decent family and job background gets in his original country?
voskresenie 1y ago
Sounds like a keeper! Is there going to be a second?
AsianDude 1y ago
Yes, there was a second date and many dates after that. In our dates, I would typically plan and pay for one and she would plan and pay for the next.
She was much better than the other women who were interested in me at that time.
voskresenie 1y ago
Ah, sounds like it's over now, then? How / why did it end? Unfortunate, a woman planning an activity is rare enough even several dates in, her planning an activity that aligns with your interests rather than hers is even rarer, but extending a first date with something you're interested in is exceptional, almost unheard of.
I can relate to the whole 7-9/10 behavior you're describing. Went on 6 dates with a woman a while back, I initiated all of them as well as all of our text exchanges. I was sorta tepid about her, not interested enough to do all the work, so after the 6th date I stopped initiating anything, at which point we stopped interacting entirely.
One Saturday evening four months later, I got a call from her, clearly drunk, crying and asking why I'd ghosted her. I told her I hadn't ghosted her, just that after 6 dates that I'd initiated, I thought I'd wait for her to initiate the 7th, and she never did, nor did she initiate any conversation. She responded, essentially, that she thought it was the man's job to initiate everything. I felt bad that she was so hurt, but it's the just deserts of her own actions. Unfortunately, I doubt even after that incident she'll end up changing her behavior.
AsianDude 1y ago
Oh it ended because I married her. So far so good.
I had many weird experiences with women such as this: https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/318811/weird_experience_25_y_o_religious_traditional_woman_asks_me/7792676/
Many women who played 'hard to get' in my social circle are still single in their 30s.
voskresenie 1y ago
Damn, that was a way better outcome than I was expecting based on how you'd framed your previous posts (in the past tense). I'm really happy for you, seems like I was correct in calling her a keeper! How long ago was that first date with her?
That chaperone thing is incredibly weird, but you ignoring her at the get together and leaving with [B] and a harem of women is certainly satisfying. Women need to see that guys won't put in the effort with them when they have others around who will unless they're 10s and the other girls are 6s. Of course, most (single) women think they're 10s so I guess that maybe explains the persistance of the phenomenon.
AsianDude 1y ago
About 5 years ago.
Yes, it was one of the weirder things I encountered.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
*Man makes point*
Whamyn: he has to spend $200 on first date ans gets my presence in return
Man: but don't you get his presence already with him being there?
Wahmyn: I hear you, but no.
And then they wonder why they are single at 35. Meanwhile, their past is littered with Skittles Men Chads that spent next to nothing for the lay but they have nothing to show for it but being single still.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I think she was trying to say he gets presents from her in return for the man spending time with her! "He gets my presents!"
Obviously these presents would add up to roughly the cost of the date, because otherwise this would be a grossly lopsided social outing.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Oooooohhhh
See, the whole time she gets his presents and he gets her presence
Now it makes total sense
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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Always be the Skittles Man
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
We really ought to get Skittles to sponsor our site. They don't need to know why.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Lmfao,
Ideas @redpillschool
financehardo420 1y ago
hey man I’m still working my way up to skittles man; my go to lead in is basically something more amongst the lines of “hey you’re really hot let’s go take shots”/“you wanna take shots or do you wanna take shots?”. And then I get laid off buying drinks. yeah sure they’re pretty cheap drinks bc college bar but I can easily wind up spending $100-$200 on a night out lmao. shit adds up if you go out a lot need to get on skittles chad level next
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The Skittles Man Rules:
Why pay for something that is worthless?
financehardo420 1y ago
Haha to be fair the drinks in my college bar cost $1 on $1 Wednesday, $2 on $2 Tuesday, and anywhere from like $4-$10 for other nights/specialty shooters etc etc.
I tend to tip fat and then also like if it’s a group of birdies I’ll buy them all shots and more often than not they’ll ask for the $8 specialty shooter instead of a $2 shot.
You’re right though I need to stop leading w my wallet
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The dollar amount does not matter. It could be 10c or 1c. The signalling is what mattes.
When you buy women drinks (or even worse, groups of women) you are signalling that you are beta bucks. Women will accept your drinks all night and then say 'bye' and catch an uber to Skittles guy's house, because he shot her an SMS that says 'Hey babes, wanna hang? - stop off on the way and bring wine, I'm out'.
You end up buying her drinks, and then she'll pay for Mr Skittles wine.
Ps. Of course they ask for the $8 shot instead of the $2 shot!!! What do you think they are, cheap whores??
financehardo420 1y ago
Hey hey I’m just playin to my strengths; I’m 5”8 not 6”2 so I always felt it’s gotta be on me to initiate.
If they don’t give me a welcoming vibe I fuck them off immediately without even buying the drinks lol. I only buy the drinks if I think there’s a solid shot and more often than not I end up smashing one of em lol
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Don't worry about the height bro - that's just women trying to diss men.
The shortest guy in my friendship circle has the highest body count. He made his name as a massive man slut in college, and then none of the girls could resist him. The more girls he fucked, the more the word got around, and the easier it became for him to fuck girls. I recall one night in the college bar when he took 2 girls back to his room. I am guessing he is about 5'3?
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reignoferror00 1y ago
If you think it takes that amount of money for your face to look presentable, what does that really imply about your face? Does it look like a can of crushed arseholes?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
She basically admitted her value is the mask and not what's under the mask
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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
They always tell on themselves
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"But I AM the bed, I mean table!"
Yeah, sure sweetie. I'll be over here not giving a fuck, because that's what the guys who end up taking you to pound-town do anyway.
Anything else is just a waste of money.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I really hope "just because" is starting to not sit well with most men as an explanation.
IceNineWithLime 1y ago
"A minimum of $200," she says.
"I wouldn't give a chick 10 cent to put cheese on a Whopper" - Big L, "No Endz, No Skinz"
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The line between prostitution and this 'modern woman' is wafer thin. It's basically prostitution with the spinning wheel of misfortune thrown in. She is demanding $200 to play spin the wheel, and it will usually end on 'no shag'.
Listen sweetie, men are the rational beings. We can easily pay $200 for an 'old skool' prostitute that is better looking than you, and we will get certain outcomes.
What this woman has failed to realise is that the market for men that want to pay $200 to spin the wheel is basically evaporating. It's almost entirely gone.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I look at his video and I see that the USA is essentially fucked. They have created a society which takes the worst of the modern world (women being sluts) and then combines it with the worst of the 1950s (men paying for everything) and you get this weird hybrid reality where modern women behave like total sluts but expect and demand men to behave like its the 1950s by 'being a gentleman'.
This shit does not fly in Europe. If there are any American brothers reading this, please be advised that there is another way. You don't need to buy women drinks /dinner /dates and 'show your provider credentials' to attract women. If this woman were being interviewed in the UK I promise you bystanders would mock her (rightfully so).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Back in the 1980's, I worshipped Ronald Reagan and now I'm eating crow. It was all a broken paradigm: We became serfs to our corporate masters who sold us out, we exported white male baizuo guilt to Europe, and the transformation of the USA into a mix of Hong Kong and South America is a disaster all in the name of a few oligarchs who made short term profits and the tragedy of it all? They could have made money acting decently but they were simply too corrupt or stupid to make it decently.
My wife and I spend most of our time with foreign influenced people including Africans, Latinos, and Asians. So this helps keep us grounded away from the American rot we live in but still, it's tough. I have to constantly remind my wife that SHE needs to determine, after careful thought (and I mentor her on this), what is best for her, not to impress the hivemind of people wanting to be "cool" and "popular".
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
Yeah, I'd rather date someone who doesn't need expensive black magic to look presentable. Also, nothing to mask the terrible attitude?
And my 70.000km car is worth more than a brand new one.
And about the 40-something y.o. woman... I wonder how her past looks like for her to be saying all the right things nowadays.
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Rule 1, dude. Removed.
FrancoAP 1y ago
Okay, I may come across as a fucking simp...BUT, I have noticed, the greatest feedback on dates was when I spent myself money. Otherwise, girls seem put off. Idk, maybe it's a culture thing here in LatAm
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Your area of the world (except Columbia) is different. You actually get return on your investment. Here in the U.S., these women demand it and refuse to reciprocate.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Have you ever stopped to consider WHY it is that women want to get married? Why? In the old days, it was so that they could have children. But nowadays, women realise that they can have children on welfare. So it's not to have children.
So why is that women want to get married? It's because they want to live a lifestyle in excess of what they can afford absent any financial support. Women like the one in this video are in a mountain of debt. They have student debt and they have consumption habits that far outstrip their earnings. I can tell this womans finances just from looking at her. Her poor impulse control combined with a severe case of affluenza and entitlement means that she cannot seem to trim her expenditure to match her earnings. She is for sure in a mountain of debt. She needs a man not only to take care of the debt, but she wants to expand her lifestyle far beyond its current spending limitations.
And they always want more.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Andrew Tate said it best:
If you tell a man that he will make $1000/Hr, he'll work until he passes out from exhaustion. You tell a woman that she'll make $1000/hr, she'll work just long enough to cover her expenses and still be in debt.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
As usual, AT is full of shit.
If a woman makes $1k an hour, she'll increase her spending to $1.1k per hour.
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