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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago Stickied
A woman who already has two strikes againat her got an indication of interest from a guy willing to date down to her level and give her a shot. Rather than realizing that she was getting a great offer, she imagines that she's too good for him.
He probably should have just let her continue to burn her life down, but he handed her a red pill instead. I won't be too hard on him, though... he may have been trying a "Hail Mary" play, or he may have just been pissed off at getting attitude from a woman he was trying to bring up to his level.
The irony is that she's at the Epiphany Phase and she is consciously aware of it, yet despite her abject terror she still isn't willing to face the facts if that means facing the truth about her place in the mating market.
And it's not going to get better. As bad as it is for her now, the only direction to go is down.
orbilius 1y ago
We made a mistake in naming it, "the wall." A better metaphor would have been, "the cliff"
That man who she turned down - what value would she have gotten from him? Well, a significant portion of his value was the money he would bring in. She'd be living a better life thanks to that money.
...and a decade from now, he'd be making more money = more value. Two decades from now, when he's 55, he's still be cranking out that value.
What is her value to him? A lot of it is her beauty. At 23, I bet she was a 7 or an 8. Here she is at 33 with her jowls and bad skin, she's a 6 at best (just because she isn't fat yet). A decade from now, she literally will not be fuckable with the lights on. Two decades from now, her value will be close to 0.
And that's the "deal" she offers you. "Give me your increasing value in exchange for my decreasing value."
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Came here to say this. Great comment. Time for her to grow some morals and a personality.
I won’t hold my breath.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I like the cliff analogy.
Every guy that gives her a chance is a branch on the way down, sticking out from the rough rock face. When she hits sea level, she's invisible/dead.
MelkorHimself Mod 1y ago
I caution men to be very judicious when they're tempted to do this, because there is a near-zero chance that it will work in their favor. If you dish out this dose of reality to an unrealistic woman, it's solely for her benefit and the benefit of the next guy she meets. However, there is a good chance that she will not accept this information and will double down instead.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I'd like to add on that a simple block and ghost is far more effective at rattling women than a bon mot or well reasoned argument. There is a reason they go absolutely histrionic when complaining about getting ghosted.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Or lie her ass off like in this post.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I found that the best way to deal with a demanding, delusional person is you have to reduce your position to no more than 3 sentences, preferably even one sentence and state it and walk off. Don't discuss because they will "double down" and rationalize it away. Just state it and walk. They find men who are willing to listen to them "weak" and will refuse to believe in whatever he says no matter how reasonable.
reignoferror00 1y ago
Consciously aware of?
Maybe in some abstract way that quickly passes through her mind and then right out. Because you know, honest self reflection is the last thing on the list of things she wants to engage in. Certainly not in the way of a truth that you feel down to the bone, and I say feel because we all know how important that is to her.
Terror? No, some niggling passing anxiety that will be future self's problem when it grows up to be a terror. The hyperbole is strong with this one.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 12mo ago
She's at the Epiphany Phase (EP). That's when women realize they've gone from "bachelorette" to "spinster." Realistically, she's been a spinster for at least five years, but the EP is when the panic sets in. The dark reality of her situation has finally imposed itself on her conscious mind, and it scares the crap out of her.
Her plight is objectively bad: she can get attention from players (although not as much as she used to), but she knows she's just a booty call to those guys. She may have noticed that "lower quality" men now hit her up, which indicates that they think she's on their level. (That's probably why she wrote this in the first place: a man she thinks is beneath her told her that she's not. If she didn't sense the truth of that assessment it wouldn't have bothered her. Instead, it hit her ego like a speeding truck.)
She also might notice the scarcity of commitment-minded HVM in her age cohort. Those guys are either already married or prefer younger women without bastard children in tow.
Women tend to be very attuned to things that increase or decrease validation, and are acutely aware of their spot in the pecking order. We shouldn't assume that EP inspins are not cognizant of their reduced-and-falling status and ever-diminishing prospects.
Justanaverageguy 1y ago
Women like her date guys based on how it’ll look to their friends and total strangers, not based on how a guy will treat her or be a good partner.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
No such thing. One is always above the other, in charge.
If it's not you, it's her.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I sincerely hate the term “partner”. Not only does it sound less affectionate, but it also completely ignores the true nature of relationships. One loves the other more.
Not to mention the gender-neutral horseshit. I had friends begin to refer to their wife or girlfriend as “partner” just to avoid offending some psycho zoomers at work. Most of these women would be living in some shitty rent controlled apartment without these guys, but sure, equal exchange of value in the relationship. /s
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 12mo ago
Note that those two pictures were taken in the same setting, and probably within a few seconds of each other. Then note that her lips are nowhere near the same color in the two pics.
She didn't change her lipstick... she changed the filter settings. She also has a small "beauty mark" in the second picture (the dot above the left corner of her mouth) that is not present in the first picture. No 33-year-old with a child has skin like a porcelain doll... her pictures are carefully-crafted lies.
No-Stress-Cat 12mo ago
Fake eyelashes, fake nails, fake glasses, fake hair color, fake lips, fake boobs, fake personality, FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
I like the way she says 'settle for less'. Less than what? What does she mean? Lets think about that;
What could she possibly mean?
Any man that is even talking to her, much less going out with her, is settling. Nobody has a 33 year old single mum as their first preference. Ipso facto, what she wants is for you to settle, but not her.
The thing that she doesn't understand is the life is about settling. Life is not some dream, or a disney story.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
If a woman reaches 30 without getting married, the only way they do get married is if they "settle for less" since their best chance at marrying a desirable man ended once they reach their mid 20s.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 12mo ago
Pic with a million filters applied
InternilizedStage2-2 12mo ago
Here you go music background for the post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6jaYJx7yeI
Lyrics: They only want you when you're seventeen When you're twenty-one You're no fun
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
I'll be she's more terrified of losing the attention/validation of internet strangers. When that dries up, the only creatures that will pay attention are her hungry cats.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
An honest whore is still a whore.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
If a car had as much Bondo on it as she does makeup, a magnet wouldn't stick to it.
Salvage title is trying to pretend she's fresh off the show floor.
redblow22 12mo ago
Salvage title...
Savage! Well played!
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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 12mo ago
Misogyny is stupid. Do you hate dogs for barking at strangers? Do you hate mice for chewing through cords and bags?
Or do you correctly understand that's simply the nature of these things and not let it affect you?
If you hate women for being women and doing what women do, the problem ain't with women.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
you got downvoted for that which seems unfair.
I think I understand what you are saying - its stupid to hate women for NOT behaving like men. The solution is to understand the risks of dealing with women, and then make sure you are playing your game.
A good analogy would be that it would be stupid to hate your knife because you cut yourself on your knife. the smarter thing to do is learn how to use a knife and then use it with great care, to make sure that you get what you want out of your knife.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 12mo ago
I didn't get downvoted, I just click off the automatic upvote on my own comment as a matter of course.
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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
Yeah, that pretty much tells me all it's needed to know about her.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
well spotted, as ever Mr Cricket.
I think the way that she posts that last line tells a whole story. I think its her subconscious speaking. Her subconscious realises that she will never get what she wants (a man that will take care of her) so she is going to settle for what she can get: attention from the internet.
That is all she can get. But even that will wane over time. Her orbiters and subscribers will diminish rather quickly over time. Because she has nothing different or special to offer - she is one of millions of ex-good time girls that are no single moms.