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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 11mo ago
The worst part is I've no difficulty accepting this woman genuinely doesn't understand why her boyfriend is upset about the whole thing. IME, one of the primary ways women kneecap themselves in trying to secure the commitment of a good man is less their inability to understand men view sex differently than they do than their outright refusal to accept that difference actually has consequences.
Near as I can figure, there exists in women's minds a disconnect between "just for fun" sex and "relationship" sex. She can mount Mr. Skittles and ride him all the way down 10 minutes after meeting him and it has no bearing on how long she makes her boyfriend wait for sex because, in her mind, they are fundamentally different activities. The fact both involve putting a man's penis inside her and exchanging bodily fluids is mere coincidence.
She's using woman logic to explain why blowing a guy she just met doesn't count and utterly failing to comprehend the fact her boyfriend doesn't give a shit about her reasons. Why you fucked this other guy is completely irrelevant. You did fuck him, and you did it earlier and with far less effort on his part than your boyfriend had to expend. That's the indisputable fact of the matter, and no amount of hamstering on your part is going to change that.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 12mo ago
Huh. Either someone beat me to it, or I'd already done it and forgot. Hah!
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
While he got the sleeve first, at the very least, it is pretty damn ridiculous. She can’t understand how insulting this sounds?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Funny, what nobody is commenting on is what jumps off the page for me:
How did the boyfriend know that she sucked off some dude on their first date??
I'll tell you how: because she told him. As soon as she got the commitment that she wanted, she started playing the jealousy game. They all do this. They know that it hurts men greatly to hear about their loved one on their knees sucking off some other dude, so they jump at every chance to tell you all about their cum guzzling episodes. They can't wait to tell you the juicy details, so that they can observe your hurt and pain.
I've been there many, many times. My mature opinion is that after a woman does that, the relationship is never the same. And every single serious relationship I've ever been in has ended up that way.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Women really do tell on themselves.
There is a lot of posts asking about red flags and how to find out if she was a slut. The best way is to act cool and non-judgmental and she will tell on herself.
I dont think it's just to hurt you with jealousy. I also think it is some sort of bragplaining where she is trying to tell you how sexually open and desirable she is with other men. Well that does sound like making you jealous.
I have to find a way to act more cool when they finally do confess their slut past. My last GF was being open and suddenly tried to scramble and backtrack everything she told me. I guess I couldnt hide the horror on my face well enough.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
They can't WAIT to tell you all the sordid details. Brag-plaining is one way of looking at it, but its really a move to get more power in the relationship.
men suffer much more from jealousy (because of clear and logical biological reasons) and they suffer very seriously from 'retro-active jealousy' (look it up).
Women know this, or find it out, and the play with it like a kid with a new toy. They see how upset their boyfriends get and this gives them feelings of security (if his feelings are hurt, he must care about me - if he is hurt and i humiliate him, he'll be less self confident and therefore less able to pick up other chicks).
this is the single most toxic trait of any chick (and it is damn near universal). I think its worth setting the ground rules asap with a new GF, as early as you can. You just tell them;
'I'm not interested in your past and I 'm not interested in any stupid jealousy games especially. If you ever try that nonsense, I'll be out the door - no explanation, no discussion, just instant ghost."
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
My long experience tells me that they are all retarded, and they all do it. Without exception. They just can't keep it in.
TRPDuryodhana 12mo ago
It doesn't even have to be a relationship. Coincidentally, just yesterday this 18yo I have been flirting on and off with suddenly texts me that she has deleted my no. longgggg back, and that I should do the same. I got confused for a moment. Like, what's the purpose of telling this to me sweetie, I don't even care about you; just trying to have a good time here.
So, basically, she was just trying to fuck with my head. Left her on read.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Lol, that chick is sooo retarded. She is just looking for more drama and orbiters, clearly.
Deleting a number means you care. The power move is not being bothered enough to delete her contact.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 11mo ago
You're not wrong, but the less Chadly among us must consider practicality. I generally delete numbers not because I'm still invested in a woman but because I don't always have another option lined up and, in moments of weakness, I've attempted to go back to the well and made things worse for myself in the past.
To borrow a phrase from the Christians, one of the most effective ways to avoid sin is to also avoid situations in which temptation is likely to occur.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
So she admitted that she'll suck the dick of a man she never wanted to speak to again, but is playing demure virgin with the man she wants.
Makes sense.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 12mo ago
Babe I will take a girl out on a date and cuddle with her if i never want to see again but with the girl I want a relationship with we will only ever Netflix and chill
Would be something like the male equivalent
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Please add that to your OLD dating profile.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
"When I was a millionaire I used to take women on expensive vacations all over the world. Now that I've spent all my money on women who meant nothing to me, I'm ready to settle down with a real woman. I know my worth and I won't settle!"
maseboogie Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
No-Stress-Cat 12mo ago
She held out for a whole 14 months before he found out she was a slut. I guarantee you that this chick took it up the ass quite a bit, but of course Hamster says, "That doesn't count." Vet your women carefully, gentlemen.
redblow22 12mo ago
The poophole is the loophole
Arcturus 12mo ago
Why obsess? Unless youre a 12 year old dude reading this, just assume they're lying about their body count, and if they're more fun than trouble, wear a condom and enjoy the ride while it lasts. Marriage and kids have both been utterly coopted to extract wealth from men with maximum efficacy and minimal guilt or responsibility for women. There is no safe bet there.
Justanaverageguy 12mo ago
Oh it was on purpose alright. Just because Chad ghosted you doesn’t change anything after getting a rimmer in the driveway.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Note how that once she isn't able to deny that she did it, she moves the goalpost to "It wasn't on purpose".
Thing is, it doesn't matter if it was or wasn't on purpose, the problem was is that she did it.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 12mo ago
Wait... so it was an accident?
His? Hers? Both?
How does something like that happen by accident?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
It doesn't, but "accident" falls under "words are the spells she casts to get what she wants". The meaning is demonstrated to be of far less import to her than the results.
The closest to the truth that word would have is "unintended". As in, she did not intend to actually be held responsible for being a gutter slut.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 12mo ago
Yeah... I "get" it, but I don't understand it. What could she be trying to convey by explicitly stating that what she did was not the result of any decisions she made? I accidentally dropped a pen... I accidentally tracked in some mud... i accidentally spilled some coffee... I'm not at all convinced that my wife would believe me if I told her that I "accidentally" went down on some woman at my gym.
In fact, I'm quite sure that "spell" would backfire pretty spectacularly. (As it should.)
The only way that makes any sense at all is if we're just not supposed to notice that what she said is obviously literally impossible because the ridiculous claim is lost in her word salad.
Note that it absolves her of responsibility. If something happens by accident and is not the result of carelessness, there's nothing to feel guilty about.
Feminists complain that men don't take women seriously, but look at how often they deny their own agency.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
And you have a penis and the associated male hyperagency assigned for such.
Keep in mind I never claimed it was a very good "spell". But a young woman generally doesn't need to exercise any real skill at bullshitting, because her marks either only care about her mouth noises when it rhymes with glock glock glock, or at the other end of the spectrum are all too willing to go along with anything she says no matter how stupid while horking and clapping like seals. Her words have never had to have a meaning more concrete than "gets me what I want".
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yep.
In the same league as "it just happened", where she conveniently tripped and fell on a cock and figured she'd fuck it anyway.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 12mo ago
Wait. So, contrary to what they've always said, it doesn't happen like that?
So I've been wasting banana peels all this time?
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Women in the AF stage are willing to share Chad as long as she gets the social status of being one of his many plates. Then she wants to chameleon as a loyal born-again virgin for BB.
Men are unwilling to share women and will go very far to preserve our exclusive access (or simply opt out). She is either ours exclusively, or we don't want her.
This guy is right to be jealous and should demand virginity for a LTR or marriage. There is no other way. I know everyone here will just say, "That's not realistic today," and you're right. But I am idealistic that it can be that way if men just demand it. We're the gatekeepers of commitment.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Or at the very least she needs to treat the man she is demanding the most from the best as well.
That's what's super galling. Expecting a decent man to pay a huge markup price on something scummy men got for firesale prices.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
"I'm not paying for something that a lesser man got for free."
Arcturus 12mo ago
"Men are unwilling to share women and will go very far to preserve our exclusive access (or simply opt out). She is either ours exclusively, or we don't want her."
This is not universally true. In my younger days I felt that way. Now, if an attractive girl in an open relationship (cheaters can fuck off) was dtf, I'd consider it. I would just have no expectations of it being anything other than sex, and feel no obligation for even the lightest commitment or any investment into her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Exactly. The issue isn't that men crave exclusive virgins for the sake of it but rather men resent paying for sex that the woman gives to someone else for free.
One of the main points of MGTOW is that sexual relationships for women are largely overpriced. "The juice isn't worth the squeeze". The "romantic chivalrous fairy tale" of the man being a 'provider' for exclusive access to a woman is basically buying a prostitute rather than renting.
Even on here, we hear that women will have a better chance of keeping a man around if she is doesn't have sex on the first date because he'll wonder if she won't be exclusive to him while a woman who makes him pay for her is somehow supposed to be more loyal even as the divorce courts incentivize her to leave him. Yes, believe it or not, the woman refusing to put out is doing so because she wants to keep him around because that's how he'll react. If that sounds like a raw deal, consider women who gripe that men are not "nice guys" or "sensitive" enough because negging women makes them want us more.
We've come to expect that women rarely "invest" or offer anything to men OTHER than sex hence why sexual exclusivity is so important to men: It's the ONLY thing many of them offer. Healthy relationships, particularly over time, require the woman to offer more than sex. The aging inspin with the graduate degree I posted recently thinks she "offers" that, but in her hypergamy it's moot. I read Madame Bovary and it describes Charles' father as handsome who was able to marry a woman from a wealthy family who lavished him with a dowry.
RP's peak will be when men find a use for women other than harem sluts or whores.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
That sort of proves the point I made. Like many men you've simply decided that women are not worth your commitment, so you are opting out. Casual sex aside, you're not willing to share a "cheater" with other men.
But even the casual sex angle is never desirable over exclusive access. Your language "I'd consider it" is a careful decision, weighing your options and assuming the woman is telling the truth about her so-called "open" relationship with other men and is not just a "cheater". I think every man would agree with you... we'd consider it too. But advisable, and desirable? Not so sure.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
I'd sure as hell never give such a woman a higher association rank than "designated cum receptacle". And she'd not get any sort of time, resources, or support from me whatsoever.