Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Land_of_the_losers
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I want to take a moment to express my appreciation for women's spaces where they feel safe to express everything that runs through their heads.
Thanks to these spaces, men who have been making the mistake of listening to what women say (as opposed to watching what they do) are finally hearing women tell the hard truths about attraction.
Physical appeal is the most important thing
Women will fuck men they don't like.
A woman can like a man and never have sex with him.
It doesn't matter how you treat women. If they want to fuck you, they will. If they don't, they won't.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
What's interesting about this paradigm is how women find it so difficult to fuck a nice guy. Think about it: Us men require sexual arousal to perform a sex act. If a woman is so ugly we even gag, we simply cannot perform the act. All a woman has to do though is just lie there.
Think about what us men do for not only women, but other people we care for in our lives. We sit through holiday dinners we can't stand. We go shoe shopping and clothes shopping with them. My wife pointed out a windowsill that the husbands would usually sit while waiting for their wives to look at clothes in a store, like dogs. Why can't these men be allowed to at least go to a coffee shop and kill some time while she does what she wants?
The modern paradigm of what women want from "relationships" with men is to sleep with men who give them "tingles" but yet, they still want men to pay for sex even though she is getting her rocks off. It's like someone who wants to get paid for doing a job where they're just having fun. Imagine if you prepaid for someone to do work for you, like mow your lawn, and then they said "Well, I'm not in the mood but thanks for the check. You're a real gentleman!"
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women will never ever want men that have to learn how to be alpha. They want men who naturally get it.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
What are the odds she is ever going to bluntly tell a "sweet, nerdy, and not overly macho" guy what she wrote in this post so he can better himself and acquire women more easily going forward and avoid this pitfall she is roping him through?
Women withholding their own preferred criteria like this and then being left with a small population of such men who naturally have specific sets traits is their own damned fault.
Imagine a company that puts out a job description for their applications. They put some publicly stated criteria on the job requirements but withhold all of the requirements they actually want from the candidates.
They end up only hiring the applicants that mostly only have their covert criteria (tingles, sex appeal) and few if in any of the publicly stated criteria needed for the job (relationship potential).
They end up with candidates they want but who can't do the job while rejecting all the candidates who can do the job but don't meet their covert criteria, or worse, they hire the man, sign him up for benefits, and then fire him without warning and before he can prepare for a new job regardless of his job performance on the overtly stated criteria he was hired to do.
Now imagine a second company that puts all of their criteria on the application.
Which company would be more likely to attract more candidates to apply that could do the overall job, or at the minimum inform candidates what they might be missing (thus leading them to acquire those skills). Which company would have better retention and overall benefit to employee and employer in the long run?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Like I commented in response to a comment on the shithole site:
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Fucking zero. More on this in a moment.
Well, yeah. They want a man to just get it.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
I considered mentioning that essay. They do want men to just get it but they also don't end up with these men. They'd rather just cause their own problems
SwarmShawarma 1y ago
https://www.trp.red/images/ae6894b2cf5034b3d4daabc1fc7270ed.png
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Lol
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
This needs to be stickied!
I read so many comments from younger guys that are having issues because they are listening to what women are saying, not observing what they are doing.
This is a classic 'mask slip' from the woman's side. In a moment of accidental honesty, she is revealing what all women are like. They want beta boyfriends and husbands, but they want to be fucked by 'toxic guys' (chad, alpha, tyrone, whatever you want to call it).
This is essentially the entire modern dating car crash in one simple post.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
This is what happens when women think they are only posting to other women, and anonymously at that. This likely isn't a "slip" in thought, her actual slip was thinking (or maybe just not caring) that there are NOT men dying or able to enter and screenshot anything they can who infiltrated this women's only space
Women have these conversations with eachother regularly when there believe there are no male ears or eyes to observe it
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I used to work in an office environment at which it was easy to lose track of who was within earshot, and overheard many conversations not intended for male ears.
Funny how this was also during my unplugging.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I have also heard from a friend about how women will 'accept' a beta into their circle in an office environment, and then treat the poor guy as 'one of the girls'.
Once they have pegged the guy as a 'harmless beta' they will open up in conversation, esp when they have strength in numbers. That's when the beta will get both barrels - they'll tell him all about how much they hate their beta husbands and boyfriends, and how much the yearn to be mistreated by 'bad boyz'. They'll even start making dick jokes and wink wink nudge nudge comments about guys that pumped and dumped them with big cocks.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Some times i am so outwardly non-judgemental and amused mastery (while internally judge jury and executioner) that women will sometimes outright say these things directly in front of me and not care.
They could make the dating market so much better for themselves if they were just collectively honest but they won't
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
So true.
When a woman is comfortable she'll tell you every single thing on her mind, uncensored. It was fundamental to my unplugging.
Justanaverageguy 1y ago
Why are you like this? Because you’re damaged as fuck, for the streets, and your downfall is coming and it’s not going to be pretty. Wait til the next post she makes in a few years…..”waaaaa, why doesn’t the sweet nerdy guy want anything to do with me and my bastard kids, he laughed at me when I texted him about giving us a chance. All men are evil “
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
The current paradigm really urges women to have sex based on the man's most superficial features while excoriating a man for seeing a woman's superficial features.
Justanaverageguy 1y ago
Or better yet they’ll know a guy for years that’s liked them but they’ll have sex with a dude they met an hour ago at the pool hall.
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Justanaverageguy 1y ago
I’ve always ran into women making it impossible for me to get sex with them. What I mean is they’ll purposely block any attempts for it to happen. They won’t come over, they’ll invite you over but with their friends around, they’ll only Go on dates and then you spend money for nothing. They make excuses for me but not for Chad.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I was thinking recently about the concept of stoicism and that the ultimate form of discipline is driving oneself to improve and work when one is comfortable and has no need to do so. Women who live in a protected bubble of chivalry/feminism combined with high sexual value in their youth are like child actors who get millions and know where all the drug dealers are. Yes, they are biologically predisposed to muck up their own lives but our society doesn't help matters by super-enabling their worst tendencies.
So why do women get turned on by bad boys? Because they think it's SAFE to do so. Society will pity them and consider them victims. They think they can get a bailout somehow. They're told they're entitled to excitement.
We often hear how zoomers are the laziest generation in history but that's nothing new. I remember my father like it was yesterday losing his temper because I blew 2 bucks playing.. pinball! Yes, pinball was legal in the state because it was classified as a "game of skill" and my father was enraged and said he wanted to call the store with the machine shut down. I'm not making this stuff up. Oh, and WALKMANS! Rotten kids just listening to them all day!
I'm sure many zoomer men can be lazy but they probably are born into the toughest time to be alive, as a man, in our history. My father landed my mother by asking for her phone number and she made him look up her number in the phone book by giving him only her name. That was the shit test back in 1958. He bought a huge house for 25 grand, paid it off in 15 years. People often waited tables to pay for college.
Acela_nextel 1y ago
She likely post wall since most young women rarely express being well built as attractive
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I believe the only way for a marriage to work, long term, is if the wife views her husband as both AF and BB.
I know, it sounds unrealistic, it's as rare as a good marriage.
I've had this theory for years based on old Dalrock reading and my own experience. I'm not overly macho or alpha or even big or tall, but I'm the most manly man in my wife's universe for the simple reason that I keep her away from other men. I don't allow her to have male friends, that's stupid. She's never slept with anyone else so I'm the best sex she's ever had. I'm fairly poor but I'm the richest man in her world, and the only one allowed to give her money or alcohol or... well, anything.
So basically, the only way for this to happen is a lack of experience on the part of the woman (aka virgin when married) and some mate guarding on the part of the man, to the point of removing all male influence/temptation in her life. It's not really about the man being alpha/beta, it's about the woman choosing to see him as both.
MovinCruisin 1y ago
If you look at any books written by and for women it's pretty much like you say. The generic brown-haired protagonist chick falls in love with some kinda bad boy who's also super rich so she ends up not only getting great dick but also access to his wealth or whatever, and she will be saved from a mediocre boring life.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If I was writing romance novels I'd follow the same pattern. Another thing I learned from Dalrock is how far back hypergamous literature goes... he dissects stories like "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" and other "chivalrous" stories, and generally anything in the "romance" genre follows these same tropes.
MidgetSpinner 1y ago
Where can I read the comments on this post? Lmao.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
I grabbed it off another reddit forum
https://www.reddit.com/r/AWDTSGisToxic/comments/18d2l9h/saying_the_quiet_part_out_loud_group_members_dont/
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women like this are THE WORST! "How do I reconcile a paradox?"
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Well, many men would like well built women who suck and fuck like porn stars. But then we are just "evil, sexist, misogynists" for fantasizing about that, right?
harrisonolivia 1y ago
I wouldn't say so