Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
Posted 8mo ago in Chasing Chad - Permalink - Locked - 7.7K Views
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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reignoferror00 8mo ago
"I'm not a classic chasing-the-douchebag type person"
like big muscular and/or fit men. 2 men most attracted to that you dated were the most handsome men you dated. personality is "important" - after them being great looking, of course.
I agree you're not a classic chasing-the-douchebag type person. In the spirit of Coca-Cola, you more of a "new chasing-the-douchebag type person". The classic doesn't leave as much of a bad taste in my mouth.
As far as learning anything from whatever community you mentioned: getting some buzzwords, shifting blame, listening but not hearing, etc. isn't learning anything of value. The ability to memorize and spit up answers for the test and without truly understanding anything isn't going to get you high marks in real life.
I'm not a therapist, psychologist, etc. but I'm sure those in whatever community you follow aren't either (even if they are you need WAY more help than anything you could possibly get online). Try floating full frontal lobotomy or electro shock therapy to your community and see if they yea or nay those ideas.
Pic889 8mo ago
People on mainstream social media will call you names and probably have the mods ban you if you use the term "AlphaWidowed", because there's allegedly no such thing.
And yet, here we have a fine example of a woman that got fucked by two Chads in her 20s (possibly during a one-night-stand or during a 1-week vacation fling) and she hasn't been able to move past them ever since, despite being a 31-year-old grown woman.
So much about women in their 30s being mature and knowing what they want.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Blah blah blah.
Commit to one man for life when you are young. Give thanks for him daily. Learn to give up your rights and meld your dreams and passions with his. Learn from a Master Unicorn how to improve in the Wifely Arts - women who've been happily married at least 30 years. They exist. Apprentice yourself to them, learn their secrets, and put them into practice.
This lifestyle is, and has always been, the best guarantor of happiness and success for women.
Comparison is the thief of joy. This woman can never be happy in a relationship, ever. She is permanently damaged goods.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 8mo ago
Oh, gee, I wonder where this amazing 31 y.o. lady will be in a decade or so. Surely married with kids.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
I guess she must either have a Masters in psychology or those guys were just avoiding wanting to commit to her as they only saw her as a P&D.
orbilius 8mo ago
"avoidant" is a hilarious cope.
"I dated a top 1% man ...and he should have loved me ...but for some reason he didn't. Hmm, he must have an avoidant attachment style"
Or, and hear me out here, maybe he has options stacked up around the block so there's absolutely no reason for him to settle for you.
Imagine being so full of yourself that you think the only reason a man doesn't wife you up is that there's something wrong with him.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 8mo ago
To be fair, I got the feeling that, even if the guy didn't have any options, he'd still avoid her. I think anyone would.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 8mo ago
When a man tries unsuccessfully to get a date with a woman who's out of his league he's told that he's acting "entitled" and that she doesn't owe him a date or an explanation. In fact, it's insulting that he even had the audacity to approach her as if he had a chance. And it's definitely him with the problem.
When a woman tries unsuccessfully to get commitment from a man who's out of her league, she can diagnose him with a psychological disorder, and the hive will tell her that she's perfect as she is and that she dodged a bullet.
Pic889 8mo ago
Men who are used by women for free lunches and as emotional support humans are told "women don't owe you sex in exchange for being nice", but women failing to secure commitment aren't told "men don't owe you commitment in exchange for sex". Why? I am confused.
Note: Emotional support humans = that person an attractive woman uses to vent to when Chad doesn't commit or otherwise doesn't do what she wants.
Justanaverageguy 8mo ago
She’s a walking hypocrite giving away the store of all women’s truths they don’t want to get out. What a mess she is as a person.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
She says she doesn't want kids (or least that's what she says in that perhaps she wants the perfect man to talk her into them) making it even more unlikely for a handsome, intelligent man with options to want to hang out with someone with serious psychological issues (by her own admission) into old age.
She's a neat allegory for the crisis in the modern age for hypergamous women: Certainly they want long term relationships with hot guys because men's hotness largely doesn't decrease with age, while theirs does. Why would a hot guy with options take a financial and personal risk and commit to a self-admitted hypergamous person whose only going to grow less attractive with him? Why shouldn't Leo DiCaprio trade in his young girlfriends like corporate executives who get new Teslas every 2 years?
She claims she can't have sex with someone she's not hot for. Nonsense. Men literally cannot have sex if we cannot achieve an erection. She doesn't WANT to do it? I understand. I didn't want to go to the mall this Christmas but my wife did so I went along and was a good sport about it. It wasn't OPTIMAL but I was ABLE to do so. It made her happy so I supported her. Amazing what one can do when life isn't all about getting everything you want.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 8mo ago
She thinks she does not want kids because she has never been able to hold on to a man. If she were able to get a Chad to commit to her, she'll soon realize the competition and will try to lock him down with kids. Women in love do not negotiate. If they like you sexually, they'll want to fuck you. If they want to lock you down, they'll make some kids.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
One of the amusing things about American women is how their entitlement attitude drags them down. This woman says she has had a few relationships with Chads over the years but didn't lock them down and this is likely due to her not even property trying. As us men know, there are no guarantees in relationships, of course, but it helps to bring as much as possible to the table: She probably didn't cook for these chads, or act frugally, or express appropriate gratitude, or have interests he would enjoy, and so on. European women (at least those I knew 30 years ago, times certainly have changed...) referred to American women as "party girls" in that European women had "talents" (like a beauty contest) such as playing a musical instrument, singing, athletics, and reading (good) books (not only trashy romance novels). Her abundance mentality when she was young conditioned her to view a lack of effort as an asset.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 8mo ago
To an extent, that is an apt description.
ObliviousDuck Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
You and I know very well your problem is not physical attraction. With all that bullshit, not once have you mentioned that those two relationships you can't get over were abusive, weren't they?
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
"Everything is great, as long as he's hot, and we don't hang out for long."
Your pair-bonding is broken, hope you got some sextoys for christmas, because that's the only companionship you'll be getting.
ElliotPagesLeftTit 8mo ago
Aw, don’t be such a downer! There are millions of kittens that need adoption. She’ll have at least four by retirement.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 8mo ago
Why do you hate kittens? They never did anything to deserve that.
fskfsk 8mo ago
If you were a cat or dog and you had two choices, what would you pick (1) warm house with food and shelter (2) you live outside and have to hunt for your own food, but you get to keep your balls?
Wouldn't you choose to keep your balls?
Justanaverageguy 8mo ago
This is the kind of woman who gives you bullshit lines like “yeah we can sometime” when you ask her on a date because she can’t be mature enough to reject you like an adult. Cunts like this broad are THE worst. They try to play all the games on you that Chad played on them. Nothing turns me off faster than a woman trying to game me like she’s a man.
No-Stress-Cat 8mo ago
"But but I wAs ToLd AnYtHiNg A mAn CaN dO a WoMaN cAn Do EvEn BeTtEr REEEEEEEEE!!!"
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Let me translate from womanese:
"I'm a shallow, narcissistic, entitled little brat with mental health problems, so I only get wet for guys that treat me like the piece of dog shit that I am. What should I do about that?"
Answer: cats and wine.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Here's the thing - the 2 guys that she was attracted to were 'avoidant' - they treated her like shit. Which makes her wet. If they had treated her well, and shown her love, she would have got the dry.
This describes 90% of women. I have had LTRs with 4 of these women, including a marriage. Women don't get horny for loving, balanced, healthy relationships - they get horny for sociopathic, mentally unhealthy, emotionally unavailable, childlike, violent, promiscuous, stunted, selfish men. It's the unsuitable men and drama filled situationships with chads that were never really theirs that make them alpha widowed.
I know this from field studies. You can take the same woman, the same guy, and you will have very different results. It's the role, not the man, that causes her desire. If I met a woman while I was already in an LTR, and took her hand and led her to the basement of a corporate office, put my hand in her panties, she would be soaking with desire. Trembling orgasm in less than a minute of penetration. Then...if I get into an LTR with this same woman, she will have no interest in a few months time. Same man, same woman.
The thing that excited her was the fact that she was not supposed to have sex with me - because she was in an LTR, and so was I, and we were at work. The thing that excited her was the fact that she was being a slut.
What you have to realise is that women want to be sluts. They want to get on that CC and ride it. They want unsuitable men and risky sex. That is where tingles come from, not loving relationships with respect and kindness.
adam-l TRP Endorsed 8mo ago
Quite a direct consequence of the incest avoidance "program" which was installed in women early on by evolution. Situations have changed, I cest avoidance is now taken care of by social norms, but they still need to activate and get to goes from that old evolutionary adaptation.
chunky 8mo ago
I literally once put on my OLD:
Emotionally distant
Kind of a know it all
A bit of a douche
Slightly alcoholic
Six feet tall
Best responses I ever got.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
And a lot of that risk taking/thrill seeking we can easily trace back to first world society coddling women to the point that their primary risk outside of willful misadventure is being bored to death. Safe, stable men that will provide are a dime a dozen and so easy to replace, so they do not value them.
This is why welfare states and automatic enfranchisement is such a mistake. Make people actually work to stay alive and get a say in things and you start to weed out the stupid ones.
chunky 8mo ago
Oh, they value them, once they have a brood of chadspawn. But they don't desire them.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
Pretty much, such is still treated as being on the same tier as a fungible good/service, which was my point. Most people aren't going to care much if they have to replace a cheap folding chair either.
They aren't going to ascribe any particular value to something they can easily replace. First world women exist by default in a state of sexual affluenza.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
I know these things to be true, just been struggling to understand the WHY of it.
I posted a bit ago about a theory that when the pool of available men were generally of a given standard, this selection behavior from women made some sense, in that traits for survival - assertiveness, independent thought, etc are biologically wired into her brain.
Or maybe that theory is bullshit, but I have this analytical streak where I want to know the inner workings. Maybe I'll never know. Just curious if anyone has more depth on this.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
The original Slavic religions celebrated language ("slavo" = word) in that language was the flashpoint of human consciousness. Helen Keller made a similar observation: Until she had been taught language, she had no way of even remembering her life previous to that moment due to an inability to articulate or describe it even to herself.
The moment humans developed language is when complex social constructs and decision making began. Until then, the notion of "consent" and a woman choosing a man for anything other than physical traits was meaningless. But yet, soon after language was developed, The Patriarchy also was born (pun intended) with tribes engaging in strategic management of assets including women, grabbed from other tribes. Women were, like children, protected and valuable assets of The Patriarchy. Women didn't choose their mate, some man did whether this was by a tribal or family decree or via conquest.
Quite simply, women have rarely ever had the ability to unilaterally pick a mate, particularly one for a lifetime, throughout history or heck, much of responsibility for their lives at all. Let a woman win the lottery, and she'll still crave a man to take her out to dinner and "lead" her. It makes the whole "feminist movement" of "women's independence" rather laughable. Women's independence is about as useful to women as giving us wooden dildos.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 8mo ago
One explanation I know of is that when a man is avoidant and aloof, he is making a statement that he does not need the woman and if that woman wants him, she needs to prove herself worthy to keep him interested. It implies that he is a valuable commodity that is above others (especially the woman in question). This in itself is a gambit, as without any initial attraction a woman is very unlikely to chase a man who does not tickle her fancy and acts in this manner.
That may be where the "bullshit" of the theory lies. Not every man is going to be able to pull this off and succeed, and it probably is going to work far better on women who are less stable (such as this woman). So replicating it may lead to failures. Success can be found when a man has enough to offer a woman (thus interesting the woman) and he is able to demonstrate the capability and willingness to walk away the moment he wants to.
I am not endorsing any behavior, though I recognize how it can happen and how it can work. I also do not claim that this explains everything, as I am just going over what others already have mentioned.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 8mo ago
Granted, a low investment approach of accuracy by volume works wonders as well. If you have to invest next to no time or energy in the aloof approach, you can utilize it against many more women in the same time window, effectively upping one's lays/day even if the success % per woman is lower.
it's the same utility behind shotgun swiping on Tinder.
The corollary to all this is that women exposed to this approach more often have more chances to fall for it too. And social media/information tech massively increases their exposure opportunities.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
You ask a good question Gimme,
My understanding is that it is just nature.
If you have 2 fields, in one there are 20 cows, in the other there are 20 bulls.
If you let a single bull into the field of cows, he will fuck all of the cows. This is the male reproductive urge - its a volume game. This is the best strategy for passing on your genes.
meanwhile, if you ask all the cows which bull they want to fuck in the other field, they will all choose the biggest strongest bull. They ALL only want to fuck only that bull. That is the female reproductive urge - they want the highest quality sperm. It doesn't make any sense for them to fuck the entire pack of bulls. Just the best one.
If you scroll forward to our society - we have created a welfare state which alleviates the need that women used to have for 'good men'. Now they know they can just get pregnant from the biggest bull, and the welfare state will pay. They think that they can top up the welfare payments by finding a beta bucks simp to marry them later, after they are done replicating.
This is dual mating strategy at its most raw. Alpha fucks for replicating, and beta bucks for bailout$.
In many respects, this is totally rational. If it were possible for me to impregnate a battalion of female Aryan super models, and then settle down with rich, well behaved, well educated women that would look after me and not cause drama, then I would take that option.
Women have been given the best of both worlds - replicate with the alphas, then shack up with beta bucks (and divorce rape them after 10 years). The current challenge is how are we going to overthrow the Femocracy. If we don't, it will mean certain destruction of the west. We are already seeing the pernicious influence of the Femocracy on society. our boys want to become girls, our corporations are being run by women and fags, we're drowning in debt and other nations are marching ahead (china and russia).
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Both the male and female strategies you describe are completely natural and rational. As you also point out, the extremes of how these play out is at best sub-optimal.
This exact reason is why I believe (and the tenets of my faith require) that hypergamy and feminism must be eradicated - not so that we can rape all the cows all day, but so we can go back to a more balanced system whereby both men and women give up certain things in exchange for others - ye olde social contract that is as old as the hills.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
I think what you are describing is 'civilisation'.
The surprising thing about ancient texts is that they spend a huge amount on the subject of dividing up the females. The one man one woman system is a feature of 'modern' civilisations (starting maybe 4000 years ago). We reached a point where we were creating the first cities, and it became untenable to have cities with the 'society' model (one alpha that fucks all the females, and all the other males as celibate betas).
So civilisation is really about creating laws and norms which allow peaceful coexistence - and the first step is to create laws and norms that stop men killing each other so we can rape all the bitches, and simultaneously stop women from all fucking the same guy (the biggest bull). That is why you find things like 'thy shall not covet thy neighbours wife' in early laws. All of civilisation is basically creating laws and norms for dividing up the females so that all (or most) men get a female, and then preventing adultery.
What we have now is a partial return to the 'society' system, whereby females can fuck as many alphas as they want. This is what is at the heart of feminism - they want to roll back civilisation to cherry pick some features of the primitive system. But they don't seem to want the bit where the males can go around raping any females that they like. But, you can't really have one without the other. they go hand in hand.
The only way you get to have a stable 1 to 1 society (1 man with 1 female) is when the penalties for the women straying are absolutely disastrous. That is the glue that keeps the one2one system going. of course women want to fuck taller, stronger, bigger men that are not their husbands, but if the penalty is stoning, blinding, death by burning or banishment from the village, they generally don't, because its not worth it. Just as men want to rape their neighbours 15 year old daughters, we don't because the penalties are so steep.
I think this is an important aspect of red pill. You cannot blame women or hate them for being hypergamous sluts - we are at fault. It's men that create civilisations. And we have created the west, a civilisation that highly incentivises women to leave their husbands with huge cash pay-outs and also incentivise women to be single mums with welfare.
The women are merely responding to incentives in a rational, utility maximising way. they are having their cake and eating it, because we created the system that made that possible and indeed, preferable.
Here's a thought experiment - imagine if we did away with the penalties for raping 15 year olds. But wait - there's more! We also include a cash bonus for any man that rapes and impregnates a 15 year old. We could perhaps throw in a nice house and an income stream of about $4k a month, if you mange to rape and impregnate 2 or more 15 year olds. Each additional successful rape increase your passive income by $2k a month. And all the single females go out to work and pay takes to pay for all of this. And if they complain, we say 'shut up incel!'. If they complain in a group, we label them a 'domestic terror threat'.
What do you think would happen to the rape statistics?
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Yes, absolutely agree, with all/most of that wall of text, especially that paragraph.
Also agree, this is one of the reasons I'm so strict with my girls and raising my daughter in a more "sheltered" way. I'm just aware of the influence everywhere and the powerful pull of the woman pack. I'm not gonna be that idiot Boomer father who just trusts everyone and every piece of media.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Thanks for your elaboration on this point - and others who have responded.
Gives me a good foundation to ponder.