Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
If you know there’s many dudes out there interested in relationships, then why not date one?
Oh yeah. Because you deal exclusively with F boys, ghosters, and dudes who don’t give a damn if you’re alive the next day.
Then, ascribe your trauma to all men in general, and not your poor taste in men. Definitely the actions of an emotionally healthy woman.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 11mo ago
But those guys are just so BORING and do not give her the "excitement" she wants of the emotional rush in the short term. And when the guys she goes for inevitably do not work out, she can then vent to everyone about how dating sucks and get the attention and emotional high of being a victim.
A more stable guy who actually wants a relationship is often seen as a backup/back burner/last resort option, as many women just expect them to always be there when it is convenient for them. But many women find out that those men get tired of waiting and being overlooked so that she can waste time with other men who were not willing to commit. Waiting for her to "be ready to settle down" is not worth it, especially when the men are taken for granted if they end up in a long term relationship.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
This is why concepts of spinsters, old maids, Xmas cakes and leftovers was a thing, any woman still unmarried or unengaged by the ages of 23-27 was likely unsuitable for marriage and this is proving to be doubly true in the 2020s.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 11mo ago
Cuz they're SO. HAAAARD. To. FIIIIIIIND.
She's probably got at least 20 dudes in her friendzone whose well-dampened shoulders she can cry upon for hours.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
I heard a woman say once "Men are not trash, our taste in men is trash"
A moment of truth escaped through the worm hole, which was then covered up and disappeared.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Sounds about right to me. Any woman in this girl’s position that isn’t exceptionally ugly, her situations are downstream from her choices. Top men and top women pair up for the most part. In the middle, you’ll find a lot of men who would like to date an average woman, but they’re too busy entertaining the top tier dudes while they wait for something better.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Nah, it's incurable, and will last the rest of your life no matter what "nice guys" tell you. It's that persistent, nagging doubt that you're a failure of a woman.
Your best bet is to spend the rest of your life warning younger, less experienced girls not to be like you or do anything you did. Most of them won't listen, but give it a try anyway.
I think you're scared of yourself, because you can't understand why you keep choosing the exact men you claim to be scared of. You are scared that you are unlovable and scared of being alone. But as usual you blame "scary men" for your own mistakes.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Let me help you interpret this word salad of mouth noises.
She says: "I know there are good men out there"........"Having bad experiences"....."this is my past experience speaking"
She means: "I know there are good guys out there, but I know that they give me the dry panties. I have tried the bad guys, and they give me the damp panties. Why can't I have a good guy that gives me damp panties? There can't be anything wrong with me, and I'm not willing to even contemplate that possibility (why should I? I'm very pretty, emotionally mature and stable).
Modern women are unlike any other life form on planet earth. A cow or a horse quickly learns not to touch the electric fence. Even lichen learn that its better to situate yourself on the sunny side of the rock. Single celled life forms have great learning capacity than modern women.
Modern women are like a cow with learning difficulties. The retarded cow sees that there is a wooden fence, which is harmless to rub against. But it wants to run against the electric fence. It keeps rubbing against the electric fence, and keeps getting shocked. It KNOWS that the wooden fence is available, but it doesn't want the wooden fence. It wants the electric fence, but it wants the electric fence to not be electric. It keeps asking all the other cows about this, and posting long messages on CowReddit, asking about 'where are all the good electric fences gone'? It has been going to cow therapy for 8 years, at great expense. The cow therapist just tells the cow to 'be yourself' and 'value yourself for who you are a person'. The cow therapist tells the cow - "You just got to put yourself out there - never settle - keep looking for that special electric fence, its out there waiting for you'.
But the cow is getting old. She's been all over the farm. Tried every electric fence. Always the same result. She takes a break from electric fence rubbing, and she's going to try new fields in the spring. One day, she will meet her perfect electric fence.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
We need to have that pinned somewhere. Great analogy.
Another analogy is video games. Young men who want the thrill of combat play video games. We can experience (most) of the adrenaline rushes without the nasty physical after effects. (Most) men don't (intentionally) seek out "bad girls" to marry and if we want a thrill, we watch some adult video content. If we want to fantasize about being a reckless bad guy, we go to a movie or even read a book.
I remember back in the 1980's, there were congressional commissions to study the effect of video games and violent movies on young men. The argument went that it would make the men violent but what is more likely is it makes them passive since they get their thrills via artificial stimulation.
(Most) men understand the difference between reality and fantasy.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 11mo ago
The wooden fence doesn't give the the tingles that the electric one does. If the wooden fence was at least a bit more interesting...
No-Stress-Cat 11mo ago
Sounds like a story from out of a
feministRed Pill children's book.Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Don't you mean from a red pill childrens book? Quite the reverse.
No-Stress-Cat 11mo ago
Now that I look at it, you're right. edited post.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
She says that she is 'scared of men' but she doesn't elaborate. I think what she is scared of is the truth.
The truth is that she is only attracted to men that treat her like shit.
I'm old now. I'm early 50s. I was born in a Femocracy, I grew up beta, and I've been blue pill. And I am a 'learning organism'. By that I mean, I respond to the environment around me. What I learnt is that 'nice guys' don't get the girls. Assholes get the girls. So I became an asshole, and I got all the pussy I could handle.
If she (and other women) want to know why 'all men are assholes', its because of the incentive structure that women have created: If we treat you with contempt and disdain, you let us smash. If we treat you with respect and admiration, you might let us be friends, as long as serve you.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 11mo ago
Her taste in men is trash. Most men are good guys, so any woman whose entire dating experience is with unsuitable men is simply attracted to such men. She is actively selecting for toxic men and actively screening out the kind of men she says she wants. Even if those men are not approaching her (guys know the pitfalls of expressing interest in women who are not giving off strong IOIs), she could be approaching them. It’s not like regular guys get approached very often, so her chances of success are extremely good.
That makes her claim of being emotionally mature suspect. Women who are emotionally mature and stable don’t spend their entire adult lives pushing away good men and chasing players and BadBois.
Obviously her “education” didn’t make her any smarter when it comes to relationships. Although that may have contributed to her “success” (I’ll need to see her balance sheet before I sign off on that, by the way), it probably works against her because 1) boss bitches are not feminine like good men want, and 2) it sends her hypergamy into overdrive because women who are “educated and successful” look down on men who don’t possess even better versions of those credentials. (The fact that having a degree doesn’t correlate with being educated is probably something she doesn’t understand, either.)
It’s also telling that she doesn’t say anything about her appearance. Women who are attractive (or who think they are) tend to lead with that. Being pretty is supposed to be enough to get what she wants because pretty privilege is a thing. The fact that she doesn’t list “being pretty” as one of her amazing traits strongly suggests that she’s fat.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
"I need some encouragement here. After discovering my RMV was way way less than my SMV, both in person and on OLD, I just want to hide from reality. I just want someone at my SMV to act like someone at my RMV."
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
Not sure you're correct here: I know women like her, and what she wants is a man who is WAY above her SMV.
I can almost guess what she looks like. She's probably below average looking, because as @lurkerhasarisen points out, she has not led with the 'I'm pretty', which all girls do (even if they aren't, because all women are told that all women are 10s..."you just got to have confidence").
So I'm going to fair and guess that she is a 4, maybe a 5 (5 being average). So an average looking 35 year old will have an experience of being pumped and dumped by men far far above her SMV. She will have put out for top 10% men. I know this, because that is how we rolled as young men. We pumped and dumped as many chicks as we could, and that meant 'downdating'. As a 10, I used to regularly smash 5s, just to get the numbers in. And all my buddies were the same.
So she is used to 10s and she wants to marry one. She has NO IDEA that she was updating all this time, all that time that she was getting pumped by 10s that were downdating.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
IMO if a woman can repeatedly get smashed by male 10s that means her SMV is 10. It’s a “market value” and she’s out, on the market, getting sex with 10s so…
I’m not disagreeing with any of what you say happens, I’m just defining SMV differently than you. SMV = the best you can regularly get sex from, RMV = the best you can regularly get commitment from. Many or most women will have a SMV of 10 at their peak because that’s how the market works.
I can see the perspective that SMVs should be a ranking within your own sex, eg percentile attractiveness or something, but I think it’s more predictive to use them as an estimate of what percentile attractiveness you can get from the opposite sex, offering just your body.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 11mo ago
The difference between a 10 Chad smashing a 10 Stacy and the same 10 Chad slum-busting a 4 Bertha doesn't seem that much, but we know that he will publicly acknowledge the 10 Stacy while treating the 4 Bertha as an embarrassing story if not pretend it never happened.
A woman's SMV is tricky as it only indicates her fuckability as many men are willing to fuck physically undesirable women if he experiencing a dry season, often with help from drugs or alcohol.
reignoferror00 11mo ago
"I need some encouragement here"
Sorry all out, especially as concerns dating and "dating". Certainly don't have any for someone who very likely coasted by and had it easy when young - since I suspect you having problems with OLD results is a new thing for you.
Here's a crazy idea - how about incentivising those looking for a relationship and quickly give them some of what you're giving your hook ups. If you're actually very emotionally mature and stable, should find someone do date that might turn into a relationship fairly quickly. Here's a hint - the good guys want to get enthusiastically laid also ... shocker. If the beginning is more like a job interview and a job in itself, who the hell wants that? I'm sure even with all your serious as a heart attack goals you want "fun" while dating someone; men want their own brand of what is "fun" - being judged and pressured into a relationship way to early on isn't it.
Also, you have to build a relationship and do actual work to get to that stage. It doesn't fall fully formed into your lap. If pussy is all you are offering, that's all they will be taking. Being "educated and successful" doesn't help you; it likely severely limits who you'll accept you since you'll now want someone even more educated and successful.
As far as your maturity and stability here's a relevant quote from the psychiatrists in a Duckman episode "... we find you more poorly adjusted than James Dean's brake linings"
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 11mo ago
Are you trying to convince your audience, or yourself here? Because when you have to declare something about your character, usually it means it is not true.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 11mo ago
There's the observation here that mirrors this: When a woman lists the things she doesn't want in a man, those are the traits of the men she has slept with in the past. When she lists the things she thinks she is, those the things she wants to think of herself as.