Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 10mo ago
She's got a body like cheese fondue.
DextroShade 10mo ago
She does NOT go to the gym 5 days a week unless she uses it as an excuse to consume 5000 calories a day.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
She goes to McDonalds 5x a week.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
and she looks like a fucking landwhale? and she likely knows she needs to go and doesn't have the will to take herself there. She probably doesn't train, she's just there because they have great "healthy shakes and tasty snacks." Free pizza days too. it's the GYM... Gyros, Yeeros, Moussaka
To be honest, I am positively surprised by her post. Sure, at first it reads like a wish list in full delusion, but at the end it comes off as a genuine question. Hope someone helped her, by giving some honest responds about her looks. And she even implies going to the gym, for sure not 5 times a week as she claims, but at least if you show her how done properly. I'm sure she would lose weight asap. The only issue I see is her age, kinda late to wake up. This woman is so deep in her cope delusions I doubt she's never gonna change. you can't fix a problem you're not willing to accept even exists.
This describes 99% of nerdy dudes on dating apps - which she absolutely uses, being A) female and B) into nerd shit makes you a bugzapper on dating apps easily, she's guaranteed to have swiped-over her ideal boyfriend hundreds of times. She doesn't want anyone even remotely into these things the way said nerdy dudes imagine, she wants someone that'll watch Stranger Things endlessly, nu-Star Wars and Dune (until she falls asleep), and shandies that are primarily sugar. Here's where she gives herself away
and will also eat any dessert I make
Translation:
She 100% posted this on Reddit in hopes a chaser from r/BBW hits her up
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Regarding the gym, you are correct. She’s either doing light cardio with no resistance training or she’s made no dietary changes. Even without macros tracking, she’d help herself by limiting herself to one cheat meal a week.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Maybe she's the type that "REWARDS" herself after each workout with fast food.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
She probably believes that nonsense about “starvation mode.”
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
Do they really think their labels will deceive our eyes?
She is nowhere near fitting any definition of "fit" at her current body. Wearing gym clothes that look like they are about to burst at the seams doesn't make her any more fit
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
The pictures weren’t on the original post
Justanaverageguy 10mo ago
I’m going to start saying “I’m short-tall”
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
"I'm skinny-jacked"
Logic makes perfect sense for men to use tbh, don't see anything contradictory about doing this
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
Unironically, that’s not a bad description of me. I weigh myself every day, so I know that I tipped the scales at 148 pounds this morning. My colleagues joke about my living in a hollow tree baking cookies (a reference to the Keebler elves). Last week I deadlifted 340 pounds with a hex bar (new PR!). Earlier today I did 12x3 reps on the leg press with 566 pounds. (Today was light weight - more reps day. On “heavy” day I do 5x5x750. No joke.) Despite that, if you saw me walking down the street you might stop me to ask if I had a pair to ruby slippers, since the next stiff breeze would be likely to carry me off to the land of Oz.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Whatever is your program to DL 2.5x your BW, I’d appreciate a share
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
What I do is that I grab the handles and then stand up.
Just kidding… sort of: using a hex bar with the handles is easier than using a barbell, and I use straps so that I’m not relying purely on my grip strength.
As for my training program: I train lower body Mon & Thu, upper body Tue & Fri, and core Wed & Sat. I do cardio and stretching every day. For my lower body I do strength / power on Mondays and endurance / hypertrophy on Thursdays. I do the same exercises both days, but the reps, sets, rest, and weights differ.
My lower body exercises are deadlifts, squats, leg presses, adductors, abductors, leg curls, and leg extensions.
Mondays are 5x5 at approximately 85-90% of my 1RM with 2-3 minutes of rest between sets. Thursdays are 12x3 at around 60% of 1RM with less than a minute between sets.
For reference: my “big three” weights on heavy / light days are 280 / 230 deadlifts, 225 / 160 squats, and 750 / 568 leg presses (5x5 on heavy days and 12x3 on light days). When I’m feeling good I attempt a new PR on deadlifts, and last week I hit 340 for one rep.
I also do the drag sled when the space is free and the mood strikes. Typically I stack seven plates, and the sled weighs 86 pounds, for a total of 401 pounds. My 250 pound gym bro hopped on last time, but I tapped out after about 15 feet.
That’s it: I don’t have a special diet.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Yeah that's intense. I've been trying 5/3/1 and I think I've kind of plateau'd. I have the other option of major league cutting, but I'm hard pressed to believe that I'd get down below 180 without some sort of massive lean body mass decline.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
Gonna have to change your username to @lifterhasarisen
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
The weirdest part of that is that I didn’t start seriously lifting until 2015, and at that time I was already in my 50s. I’m over 60 now.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
This is a new low in delusion.
Its like saying I'm rich-poor.
Those budding batwings on the back there... Shudder
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
It's like they
1) genuinely don't know it's unattractive to us
2) know it's unnattractive but think if they flaunt it just hard enough in the right clothes will like it
It's really an insult to our intelligence
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
If she’s in the gym that often, she knows what a “bad bitch” is, she sees who the guys check out and hit on. She’s playing a game, I get it in part because reality bites. She’s likely healthier than average but she’s not “fit” she knows it. In her gym, there are likely 50-60 year old upper class women who are far fitter than her.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
But, that's probably, like, her truth or something
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
We’ve seen worse stuff, but she’s still delusional. She knows where the men are, she likely has even innate idea of the guys who’d date her, she simply knows that it won’t be the super handsome guy fit guys who pulled up to the gym in a BMW. Those guys can do better and they will, she’d literally damage their SMV. She can get looks though, but she’d have to give up her other wants and basically pay a handsome (who is lacking everything else) to be with her. Women do this all the time. She has to determine which she’d prefer: getting serious about diet and such v supporting a handsome guy who lacks anything else.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I have been saying this for years now. The fit, jacked, rich, Chad will not date you because they can do better. Sure, if you offer sex he will not turn down a free meal, but date and marry you? Come on, the delusion is now ridiculous.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I think she knows. She’s more realistic than the fat chicks on reddit who, while concurrently saying American society hates them, also claims that they regularly fuck super model bros.
ExConvictNowMillionaire 10mo ago
"she’d literally damage their SMV."
Made me laugh & reminded me of a hook up I sneaked into the hotel AFTER I made sure my buddies were nowhere to be found in close proximity of the hotel... Good old times
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
There’s an article online wherein a fat women describes how this good looking guy would fuck her, but would refused to go anywhere in public with her. When she pressed, he ghosted.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I once dated a woman with a similar body type with a similar story. Her diet was horrible. She didn’t cook at home, or would just heat up something premade.
So yeah, she works out 5 days a week. This “workout” could easily be a leisurely walk on the treadmill, and after which she’s filling herself up with empty calories. Burning 200-300 calories is cool, but that’s not an invite to ingest 600 calories that you don’t need. Weight loss happens in the kitchen first, exercise is simply there to accelerate the process. After all, sedentary and regular exercise is the difference between a few hundred calories a day, while healthy vs unhealthy food is the difference in a thousand or more.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
She's a living testimony to CICO
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
this. If in doubt, you can check for yourself on any of those modern running machines. Do a 5k run, and afterwards they will tell you many calories you hve burned....its surprisingly small amount. About 1 soda can or chocolate bar.
You can't out train a bad diet. This woman is walking proof.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Generally speaking, you’ll burn around 70 calories per 100 lb of weight per mile on a treadmill at a running pace. So a 200 lb person running 3 miles on the treadmill is around 420 calories.
Which is equivalent to about 40 potato chips from a bag of lays.
It’s a harsh reality in weight loss. You have to stop eating comfort foods like this
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
In general I agree with your comments about diet, there are exceptions which don’t apply to her.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
I keep hearing about these mysterious conditions that are unknown to medical science that make people fat despite their claims of strict diets and copious exercise. The percentage of fat women who claim to be able to defy the Second Law of Thermodynamics is approximately 99.9%. The percentage of those women whose doctors agree is approximately 0.00%.
Unless her thyroid is the size of a watermelon, or she has ovarian cysts the size of candlepin balls, a woman’s weight is determined by her caloric intake / output.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I was talking about being able to out work a diet lol. In high school I played football, I was a defensive end, I started at 210 pounds, I wanted to reach 235 pounds, I ate everything I could, but the two a days, sprints, lifting and long practices meant I struggled to gain even five pounds. I was talking about that.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
Ah… I was reacting to the avalanche of women who claim that their thyroid or their PCOS prevents them from looking like the Kool-Aid mascot.
Indeed, lots of hard exercise puts a thumb on the Calories In / Calories Out balance, but nothing negates the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
When I was in college i worked at the grocery store.
Every person's shopping cart was an exact window into their body type. I saw two shopping carts in my entire time that that had absolutely no connection to their weight
The fattest chicks and dudes just has so much h goddamn cereal, single white grain products, desserts, almost always soda, cheeses, tons of red processed meats with an occasional tomato in the basket
The normal people had some fruits and veggies and some crap
The hot thin women always had tons of fruits and vegetables, usually chicken for meat if at all, salads and shit
The jacked bros would always have sweet potatoes, oat milk, oats, tons of lean meats in their basket, milk, bananas
People are genuinely what they eat. I saw it every day. I saw hundreds, if not thousands, of shopping carts. It was the most revealing insight into People's health state I've ever seen.
Fat people deserve their lot in life
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
On the bright side, at least they get to eat delicious food. My wife makes fun of me because I literally salivate a little walking through the cereal aisle. The only thing stopping me is knowing that these companies deliberately made these things addictive so that I would irrationally choose their food items over real foods.
But that’s part of growing up. Not seeking out dopamine kicks constantly.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Yep, there are people who claim unhealthy food is nasty anyway, they are wrong lol. Cinnamon Toast Crunch is dope, McDonald’s is amazing lol.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Seriously. Man I love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. It’s a battle to not get it every single time I’m at the store. I’m not going to puff my chest out like a fitness influencer and act like i don’t love a big portion of junk and would rather spend 60-90 minutes a day preparing chicken breast and vegetables.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I heard a podcast a guy say “Once you start eating clean, sweet food is nasty”. I’m like the hell it is.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 10mo ago
I'd say it's not sweet food, but processed sweet food. Try your hand at baking, and you'll never see pre-made pie the same.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
This is correct. My wife could make zero dishes when we got married, nothing at all, but she's gotten so good at cooking she's now like my personal live-in chef. I can't even go out to eat anymore, it's all greasy goyslop, laden with MSG and costs 10x more than what we pay for the basic ingredients to make everything from scratch.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 10mo ago
I once cooked with hydrogenated vegetable fat (that's the literal translation, though it seems to be called hydrogenated vegetable oil in english; it doesn't seem like oil at all, more like some nefarious clay doh) because that's what the recipe demanded. Once. A long time ago. It's fucking disgusting. I've never eaten doughnuts again, nor did I ever try a recipe with it a second time. I already hate using regular seed oils.
Nowadays I'm convinced that my staple dishes (mainly pasta and desserts) are better than at least half of what restaurants around me are selling. And it's not hard to make them. Sure, the pasta is not exactly cheap because it takes a pasta maker machine (and those fuckers can get quite expensive), but you only buy it once - and them it's ridiculous how easy and cheap making real food is.
Here's a favourite of mine: https://archive.is/QgvCa. I love not-so-sweet desserts, and I can't find any around. Had to start making my own.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Yep, pasta is something daughter and I have mastered, got a free machine. We had never had pasta that fresh or good.
I recently mandated getting rid of ALL the vegetable oil in our house, we now use coconut and olive and bacon fat and butter for everything. Highly agree there too.
Pretty sure vegetable oil was invented in WWII for use in vehicles.
nicknack 10mo ago
Based off her feet and bone structure she’d be a baddy if she was 150+ pounds lighter. What a shame . Now she’s just a fat nasty pig nobody wants.
American women look around at all the other ugly fatties and think they are fit. You’re not a fit and attractive until you can stand in Moscow and fit in. Your local Walmart is not it, unless you’re trying to date the welcome greeter, if he’ll give you the time of day
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
She knows this, if she goes to the gym, she sees the chicks the guys are looking at.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Guys actually don't seem to check out chicks at the gym any more, because of well documented reasons.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 10mo ago
No you aren't!
We don't care.
Ok, that's a positive, if the confidence is a) deserved, and b) doesn't become overconfidence.
we don't care!
Ugh. Every time a woman accuses a man of being "insecure" or "intimidated" or "threatened", she's trying to manipulate him. A man's displeasure at certain traits possessed by women stems from instinctual revulsion, and instinctual apprehension that the future with her is doomed before things even really start.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
Yes she is!
Fatties
Iignoring
Truth
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Her comment on traits I think points to her frustration. Girls outside the top quintile still want top quintile guys, most other guys being subhuman mongrels. When they find they cannot get them, they must realize that they trade off looks for other traits as only elite women can get handsome dudes who check other boxes. She wants to know how we would advise her as it concerns how she herself could find a guy like the one from work or who lives across the street, the handsome guy who who loves his wife and is super dad with his toddler v her current options which is getting a good dude with physical flaws or a handsome dude she’d have to subsidize. The answer to her question is that no, you cannot have what the drop dead gorgeous tri delt chick has, life isn’t hairspray.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 10mo ago
It's our fault we have pAtRiaRCHy in our genes though
/s
No-Stress-Cat 10mo ago
Fuck yeah! We should double down on our Patriarchial Toxic Genes.
"BITCH, GET YOUR ASS BACK IN THE KITCHEN!"
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 10mo ago
In her case, I think she's already spending too much time in the kitchen. Maybe putting the kitchen upstairs would help.
No-Stress-Cat 10mo ago
Haha on the 3rd floor.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
1) I commend her for being willing to post her body in a revealing but non-sexed up way and open herself up for criticism. But that doesn’t change the fact that I’d never consider a woman that looks like this “fit”. She’s got FUPA for days. I’m not sure what routine she’s on, but she should probably consider shifting to more cardio and focusing on caloric deficits + protein. Given her height, she could easily be at 200+ lbs; throw down 30-45 minutes a day of steep incline treadmill walking and focus on less calorie dense foods and the pounds could melt off.
2) men aren’t intimidated by a woman’s career. Men who say they are, are either A) lying and letting a woman down easily or B) hugely insecure in general and probably not someone she’d want to be with anyway.
3) Kevin samuels used to harp on it, so I will too. There’s no such thing as conditional femininity. You don’t just get to turn on the soft, affectionate woman thing, it’s a part of your personality. Your personality is masculine and you’re simply seeking someone more dominant than you to metaphorically slap you back into line. Put it this way: if I were lazy and unmotivated, and soft to a point where people questioned if I even liked women, and I said “soft enough so that I can lead because I know she knows I’m the boss”, I would either get called an incel, a misogynist, get laughed at, or a combo of the three. Being an attractive man is a lived experience, and so is being an attractive woman. We don’t just decide to be the person that someone we’re interested in would like us to be.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
She didn’t post those pics with this post. It is long since deleted as is the user so either those aren’t pics of her or this was posted years ago when people were still able to dig out her pics from the weight loss reddit pages she was on (and that pic being the “after”)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
I think what these women mean by "lead" is that the man will pass her shit tests and put up with her "sassiness". That's where the "men are intimidated by her" also comes from: Such women treat men with disrespect and hostility thinking it's "cute" and a "challenge" and men are supposed to enjoy it. This is the equivalent of men who wants a "feminine woman" who enjoys mopping up the floor after we come into a newly cleaned kitchen with dirty boots (Hint: Don't try this at home!)
She has an entitlement attitude, plain and simple, although to her (seeming) credit she appears to ask for advice but not really in that she's looking for an easy fix such as "Try taking this diet pill to lose weight or get on the nordic track for 10 minutes 5X a week".
I chuckled at her desire to be taken out to a "fancy restaurant" to show off status (high heels so the man is taller than her, expensive dress) but yet wants a man who supports her in her career and earning money. What good is her money if the man still has to pay for things? "I make more money so I can develop more expensive tastes!"
Bottom line about men who are "bosses" or "leaders": It's not that complicated: Just submit to a man, any man. Any "feminine" woman can "submit" to a rich, handsome man who gives her what she wants but it takes a "Real Woman" (tm) to submit to a truck driver and yet, working class women like that are reviled by "boss babes" like this as "pick mes".
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
If I tried the muddy boots thing on my wife, I don’t think I’d get laid for weeks. Wouldn’t really blame her, either.
But yeah, my experience is that women who try to flex their career are essentially trying to sell that luxurious, dual income lifestyle. “Oh I make $125k. If you make $175k, we have a $300k a year home! Isn’t that amazing?”. Sure. But I’d rather shoulder all of that and try to reach $300k on my own, versus have hard days at work and then come home to either compete against my wife, or play psychologist after she had a stressful day. Plus, I’m expected to pay for everything in the beginning, and over time I’ll be putting in proportional to my own income at minimum. So maybe we get a nicer house, but besides that, I don’t really see any upgrade in life (plus is a nice house with some chubby, masculine energy chick really better than a modest house that’s solely for you?). Oh, and I guess if a high earner divorces you, the divorce terms are far more palatable.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
That was the belief that some guys who got married a few decades ago made as a good reason to marry a career woman over a traditional woman.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Yeah, and most of them ended up divorced because she was a miserable witch. Sure they didn’t get hurt in the divorce proceedings. But she was a liability in about every other way
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
They also forget that the more resources she has direct control over, the more resources she has that she can expend making a man miserable and burning everything down out of spite too. Including more to spend on a lawyer to try to take more from the man.
Type-A social climbers tend to be shitty like that.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
My wife wouldn't let me off that easy. There's this fun Polish meme where a cop is asked: "So you came upon the defendant who murdered her husband for walking on her wet kitchen floor?" The cop replies "Correct." "So why did you wait an hour before arresting her?" Answer: "The floor wasn't dry yet."
One trad-con entitlement queen tried to shame me to commit to letting her "sacrifice" her job as manager at Denny's so she could stay at home all day in a big home (bought by me, of course) and go shopping like Jane in The Jetsons. I actually burst out laughing to her shock. I told my dear 70 year old Swiss friend and SHE burst out laughing. I'd be setting myself up like Kevin Costner. No thanks. The general rule-of-thumb in post-feminist America is that unless the woman is raised in a convent and you can trust her 1000%, she should be working at a job that doesn't compete with your own so the divorce courts won't come after you for alimony and also as the "backup" they like to brag about. When I was laid off for a year, my wife's income was nice to come in and we didn't worry too much.
They wanted the "right" to work? Enjoy it!
My friend's mother from the 1940's marveled that the feminists played themselves: Wages went down and the cost of living (including homes) went up. "Winning."
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Women wanted the option to work. But because understanding economics isn’t really the strong suit of most women (some will get it, but it’s mostly either actively arguing against it or simply taking whatever stance husband takes), they didn’t understand that they were screaming to flood the labor market with extra bodies, while not actually having more things to produce.
So much larger labor force for a similarly sized economy. Add in that my generation of millennials is the most unmarried generation ever And the implication that has on housing (we demand more of it), and you have a recipe for economic catastrophe
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
One (aging, single) boomer woman put it to me this way: She said (condescendingly, when I was speaking in the hypothetical): "If men like you want to be househusbands, I FULLY support that but this is about choices and I personally choose (alpha males). If some other woman wants someone like you, I fully support her!
It's like they think that they can (or should) just be able to "choose" to (only) be CEO's, astronauts, movie stars, and so on and marry Daddy Warbucks and others will be happy to do actual, normal "work". Then it's "unfair" that they have to earn a literal living.
The housing/education situation is critical because even if they're "not making more land", the problem is that people tend to not want to move, or build, new cities but rather try to squeeze in existing ones. Back even about, 60 years ago or more, large corporations would build "company" towns that became the cities we know of today such as Orlando, Hershey, and Hollywood. Instead, modern companies don't seem to mind building out their HQs in the most expensive regions and then gripe that their "lazy" workers want enough money to actually live in something more than a cardboard box and so they lobby for more "skilled immigrants" to work on the cheap as indentured servants.
I'm reminded of the USSR in 1991. You know why the USSR got Chernobyl and we got this system? The commies got first pick.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I know they’re putting up planned towns in southwest Florida right now. Those are a trip for a Bostonian like myself, who had never experienced a world where you could just make an entirely new town.
But yes, it’s bizarre that people don’t understand that everything was built at some point. In 1900, Miami was a tiny outpost that just incorporated as a city in an unbearably hot climate, and Vegas was a nothing town in the middle of the desert. Now look at them. My two favorite major cities to visit in America. But strangely, it seems like people are now less likely to move for opportunities, and if they are going to move, it’s to a big urban area.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
Haven't seen Vegas since 2004. Back then, could get a hotel on Fremont St. near the police station for $30/night (was a great one too, a small slot machine near the entrance.) Now spending a lot of my time visiting relatives and dear friends. Wife is crying to see Paris but I want to see Lourdes.
Durek_The_Bald 10mo ago
Must have a pig fetish, but not be into actual bestiality.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
Fucking delusional. I mean, god damn, her gunt sticks out as far as her tits and that's gross no matter how it is interpreted. You'd need a crowbar and cargo straps to hold back the fat rolls on her ass during even doggystyle.
What she needs to realize is that men as a general rule are not into bodies that resemble and smell like fermenting bread dough, outside of a few depraved fetishists among billions.
And most of even those are not going to want to be seen in public with her. For 99+% of men, crippling loneliness and one night stands with Pamela Handerson are a more satisfying option than she ever would be in this state.
A Gym bro would have a higher probability of being completely homosexual than ever finding her attractive.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
Can confirm. I’m a gym bro and I’m about twice her age. I wouldn’t touch her with a barge pole. I’m not good at guessing weight, but I know that she needs to lose a LOT of blubber before she should be using the word “fit” to describe herself.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
A scroll down here (https://mennohenselmans.com/understanding-body-fat-percentages-for-women-a-visual-guide/) reveals a body that looks almost exactly the same as above. To a point where it could be the same woman. Listed at 44% BF.
Honestly, these pictures look even bigger. She could be around 45% body fat or more.
So let’s go with that. She’s 5’8” and 45% body fat. That places her at 233 lbs using a rough estimate via BMI. Or about 128 lbs of lean mass.
If she wants to look aesthetic, she probably needs to get to at least 30%, which would be around 183 if her lean mass stays stable. To get to 25%, where she’d probably be at her most aesthetic, that’s around 171. And remember, this is assuming no change in her lean mass, which is usually a naive assumption (I know my lean mass tanked when I was cutting because my ability to lift heavy declined). Realistically, we’re probably talking 160 before she starts to be physically attractive. Or 73 pounds. That’s a year of dedicated, 700 calorie a day deficits.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
And on top of that she'll need to exercise for tone and hope that her skin has elasticity left and she won't end up looking like a fucking shar-pei in a bikini.
That's the curse of being a woman is they have to go to 10x the work to fix something compared to just not ruining it to begin with.
But even that is dwarfed by the burden of performance placed upon men. A man in her situation would not only have to lose the weight, but also ensure that he has superior social and financial standing to get even a fraction of the results she would.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
And women are getting way better at ruining themselves in the modern era. My millennial generation is hitting the wall now; a lot of them probably thought the party would last forever and that they’d never end up in constant weight struggles
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
Mad math skills. I’m impressed. At 5’8” she is close enough to my height that it would be hard to say which of us is taller unless we were standing back-to-back, barefoot. According to my scale this morning I weight 148 pounds. I’ve mentioned elsewhere what I lift, so I’m far from being a weakling. Unless she is extremely athletic from something like long-distance swimming, a woman my height would have to be - at most - 140 pounds (10 stone for my UK brothers), to be notably attractive.
When I see that meme of the the girl rolling her eyes and saying, “If his height starts with a 5…” my response is, “If her weight starts with a 1…” (Stone, that is, who puts the upper limit at 139 pounds.)
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
The benefit of being a woman is that your physical attractiveness is not linear to your body fat percentage. Take this for example: https://www.builtlean.com/body-fat-percentage-men-women/. The 30% example is a curvy woman and looks quite good, IMO. Her looks equivalent is probably a dude in the high teens of body fat. Besides fat doesn’t go straight to their bellies, unlike us, they can “wear” fat much better.
So while it’s easier to generally lose weight as a man, it’s easier to look appealing to the other sex as a woman.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
High teens for a man probably puts you in the above average category so no wonder the 30% looks good. It should.
Because of the fat apportioning you mention it adds another “rule” on weight - if a woman has a bigger waist than you as a man then it should be a no go. Because that’s not where their fat usually goes first. Same as a woman shouldn’t really weight more than you unless she is substantially taller than you (and we all know such cases are rare). And even then it should be close.
I met a girl in the summer who was at least 5’10 if not more (to my 5’5.5”) and I would expect she didn’t weigh more than me. Intriguingly we were in Europe and a German family assumed we were married as we were hanging out and doing a holiday activity together. It interested me that it didn’t even cross their mind that we might just be friends and that a romantic thing was impossible due to her being so much taller. I do wonder if an American tourist family / American tourists would have made the same assumption as the Germans. I expect not as it seems like the height thing is a VERY big deal in America. Followed closely it seems by other anglosphere countries and then seemingly less so in Europe. I get that the context was the reason for the mistaken assumption but i just don’t think it would have been enough for more stereotypical thinking people
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
If her stone weight reaches double digits, she's fat.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
As mentioned in another reply - this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I’ve forgotten where I first read or heard that said about stones. I assume some red pill creator. Was an American one because they remarked that the good thing about British weight measurements is that they are easy - like you said - if a woman reaches 10 stone then she weighs too much. With very rare exceptions
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 10mo ago
That was probably me. I don’t know of anyone else who wrote about the utility of using stones as a shorthand measure for fatties on dating apps who mock short/regular guys and demand gym bros.
Justanaverageguy 10mo ago
Read her headline. She’s 31 and can’t goddamn spell “particular”. Learn to spell check, dummy.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
At least she's asking the right question, but any man who tells her the first step (stop being fat) will get ignored.
Women like this are a waste of time, you can't save them.
Edit: this is a key example of what happens when you put your efforts into the things that the other sex doesn't find valuable. She neglected the things men want in favor of the things she valued and now she's wanting men to change their preferences to accommodate her. The equivalent would be if a man skipped physical fitness and resource acquisition in favor of developing his emotional availability and designer bag collection - cool for you, but no woman gives a fuck.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
to everyone wondering why on earth a woman would post such 'honest' pictures of herself, showing us that she is fat.
The answer is....these photos are from 3 years ago, when she was 50 to 100 pounds lighter. I bet you 10 to 1 that if you responded to her on OLD, the woman you see arrive at your date would not be the one you see in these pictures.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
I’ve posted elsewhere but the pics were from a separate Reddit post it seems. The original doesn’t look like it has any pics. And they were after losing 30lbs I think. Think they are probably the after but might be the before. She was 210lbs at one point
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
Just so people know - this post is 8 years old. 8. So before the pandemic forced most of the world online and the app and memeification of “dating” started
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 10mo ago
And holy fuck did they rightfully let her have it in the comments.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 10mo ago
And there were some deleted comments that I can only assume were even harsher
No-Stress-Cat 10mo ago
Fat Fucking Feminist Fails Phenomenally at Finding Faithful Fuckboy that Fancies Female with Failed Feminine Facility.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 10mo ago
Oh, I really like this one. Kudos for the Ph in phenomenally.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 10mo ago
Looks like you may have some new competition!