Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago Stickied
This is a "part 2" or the full text of "I just don't think it's fair". https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/322174/i_just_don_t_think_it_s_fair
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
The great thing about the dating marketplace is that it's a free market. Buyers and sellers come together and negotiate terms concerning the voluntary exchange of value. No one is forced to do anything they otherwise wouldn't do.
In this context, any seller who fails to find a buyer is charging too high a price given the value they offer.
As for whether the expectations imposed on men and women are fair, that is more often than not an expression of the rebuffed party's desires. It's devoid of rational, objective analysis.
To wit, if she's 33 and continuously single, and wishes to not be single, she should reassess her price.
DextroShade 9mo ago
Reminds me of that Kevin Samuels video about when to sell, and right now she is 50% off.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
When she was new, she was selling herself for Y amount.
After hitting the Wall, she demands 10Y amount for an old used product.
Even if she "reduces" her price by half, it will still cost way more than a fresh new product.
Everpax 9mo ago
Here's her problem, she thinks being single is a bad outcome for the modern man. If only the men she wants would commit to her, they'd be in a better position, so obviously her lack of relationship prospects are caused by men not acting rationally.
Unfortunately for her, men are acting rationally. She's not being skipped over because men her age have unreasonable standards, she's getting skipped over because she's a net negative compared to staying single.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Yup. Everything she has to offer can be obtained without the effort of a relationship.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
this x 1000.
She doesn't realise that there are so many alternatives to her, alternatives that are better.
Alternative type a = women with no kids
All of these alternatives, type a and b, are better than her.
In the field of micro economics (consumer preferences), when we discuss two consumer solutions (products) one of which is better than the other in all respects, we use the term 'dominated'. For example, choice A is dominated by choice B.
Where product A is 'dominated', what you expect to see 100% selection of product B. Consumer preferences tend towards zero diversity in the case of domination. Any selection of product A is down to 'error' (consumer has not understood the task).
A good way to explain it is this - Google maps will often suggest two routes to me, one is 17 minutes and one is 14 minutes. The 17 minute journey is dominated by the existence of an alternative that is better in every way (less time, less fuel consumed).
In essence, although the 17 min journey is only 21% worse than the 14 min journey in terms of extra time, but it is rendered entirely useless as a choice because of a better (in every way) alternative. It would be more correct to say that the 17 min journey is 100% worse than the 14 minute journey. For this reason, you would expect 100% of consumers to choose the 14 minute journey, 100% of the time.
And that my friends, is what this woman (and others like her) is experiencing. There was another post recently, which is quite relevant:
https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/322156/women_learn_too_late_that_men_value_them_because_of_their_re
This woman asks 'am I that bad?'.
The answer is no, you're not that bad, but as a choice you are dominated by better alternatives. You are a 17 minute journey in a world of 14 minute journeys. Which is why 0% of men choose you.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
It’s obviously slightly different because while everyone can choose the 14 minute drive over the 17 minute one, dating is different because you can only sell your product to one buyer.
It’s closer to what we’d see in the labor market. Companies like Amazon can go get the cream of the crop tech talent, and they can run them into the ground if they’d like because there’s always another batch of people willing to take punishment in order to say “ex-Amazon” on their LinkedIn profile. Then you may have the next tier of employers (like financial firms, old tech giants that are playing catch-up in the new world, etc) that can still command talented people, but might struggle to hire against the Amazon’s of the world. Eventually you get down to “bootstrapped startup with either no monetization strategy or an immediate need to make profit within 6 months” and they’ll be in the warm body market.
But the ascendancy remains the same. Those top employers take their choices from the top employees. Eventually you hit a point where you get to employers who can either hire from their limited pool of options, or eschew the pool entirely and try to figure out whatever project they were interested in by themselves.
This is where single moms find themselves. All of the best “employers” (dating options) don’t want them. So now they’re left with that lower tier. Some of those “employers” will simply decide that the options they have available aren’t worth the investment and make a go by themselves (MGTOW). And then there’s others where the single mom knows she’s entering a bad “work environment”, but as the person who needs the “job”, she can’t really afford to be a chooser.
And of course, when there’s more “job seekers” than opportunities, someone is inevitably getting left out. Or “working part time” and sharing a “job”.
And the thing is, she can be otherwise qualified for the “job”. But so are all of these other women, with less baggage. That’s the crux of why they remain single.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I concentrated hard on your labour market analogy! it does work.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 9mo ago
Whenever I go to my local gym (which is nearly every day for more than an hour each time), men outnumber women by a very wide margin, and very few of those women are between 30 and 60.
They’re either in their 20s and in the market, or much older trying to stave off the worse effects of aging. Where are all these amazing middle aged women who are taking such good care of themselves?
Gym > Cosmetics
Spending even a little time online reveals that a lot of women who identify as attractive are basing that on stupid crap like their nails or their eyebrows or their hairstyles.
Most of those women are fat, and quite a few of those are obese. It is not possible for a woman to be both attractive and overweight. A fat chick claiming to be attractive would be like me claiming to be a panther.
I always marvel whenever I see some tatted fatty talking like her status as a HVW is obvious, and speaking as if she’s in position to slam 95% of men.
DextroShade 9mo ago
I will never understand how these fat chicks will spend over a grand a month on hair, nails, and makeup as if any that shit can make up for being obese. They would be better off wearing none of that shit and spending that money on liposuction instead.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
A lot of the women I see that remain thin in older ages, aren’t doing it through healthy means. Cigarettes was the old drug of choice. Now it’s mostly just getting wine drunk and not eating enough.
It’s not that women become unattractive in their 30’s automatically. It’s that most women don’t make the lifestyle choices to stay attractive into their 30’s and beyond. They don’t have to learn healthy cooking or real fitness routines or anything.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 9mo ago
Yeah… I was responding to the ridiculous implication (assertion?) that women generally take very good care of themselves in middle age, while men almost never do.
The truth is that most people don’t take very good care of themselves, but the overwhelming majority of those who do are men. For every fit middle aged woman there are probably five fit middle aged men.
The writer makes a mistake that is common among people who complain on behalf of women: they put women on pedestals and put men under microscopes:
Every single article bemoaning the fate of post-Epiphany women and the alleged lack of suitable men makes that mistake. Every. Last. One. They begin with the assumption that every woman is suitable for marriage by default, but that a man must be in the top 20% of multiple categories (many of which are beyond anyone’s control).
It’s no wonder why they always find a mismatch: they compare the total number of women to a small subset of men. There was a study a few years ago (I’ve linked it before but I don’t have it right now) that rates the suitability of both men and women. Guess what they discovered…
Single marriageable men outnumber single marriageable women.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Women age better than men? I applaud her delusions: they are keeping men safe. Well, at least the men she does not want. Those that she does want will reject her, thus keeping themselves safe.
This could be a win for men. You go, gurl!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I agree - she should never settle!!!!
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 9mo ago
There was a Guardian (edit: or Daily Mail h/t @Lone_Ranger) article a few years ago that we dissected on WAATGM, and we revisited a couple of weeks ago. The gist of the piece is that there is a tsunami of beautiful, smart, desirable women in their 40s and 50s who are wondering why the men their age are so slovenly and pathetic.
Then they showed a few pictures of the women.
Several words came to mind, but “beautiful” was not among them. Nor were any of the other superlatives sprinkled throughout the puff-piece. Frumpy? Yeah… I can see that. Entitled? Sure: that, too. Delusional? YOU BET!
I have 10-15 years on those broads and if I were single I would barely notice any of them if we were alone in an elevator.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
It's easy to tell which ones coasted almost entirely on the power of youth and fertility and failed to develop anything else that a man might want.
And that's why they're single at 40+. Not only do they lack one of the most important things to a commitment minded man, but they have nothing else to offer that a prostitute or fleshlight could not also offer, and for far cheaper once one does the risk assessment.
Turns out men in that age range don't have much motivation to make themselves presentable and available to women that are at best angling to be an ugly whiny roommate that pays no rent and gets to take half your stuff once evicted.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Sometimes you’re even the one who gets evicted.
But it’s pretty hilarious that women will insist that the reason they are single is because the men aren’t up to par. There’s plenty of men that are up to par. And those men didn’t choose those women. So, wouldn’t that mean, simply stated, that those women aren’t up to par?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I am pretty sure it was the Daily Mail, not the guardian?
That article was hilarious. It should have been titled 'The Rise of the Inspins'. Instead it was written from a deeply blue pilled perspective, about how men need to just realise that older infertile women are just so fantastic.
What the article failed to mention is that these women could probably get laid. I don't mind banging older women. I have very wide tastes, and will bang lots of different types of women. Many men are like that. If its not any effort, no hassle, I'll fuck all sorts of women.
But I would rather gouge out my eyes with a rusty nail rather than LTR/marry any of them.
These women (and the writer of that article) totally fail to realise the difference between shagging and LTRing. The women can get laid, but not married. Men at that age 45-50, can easily get married.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 9mo ago
Fixed. Thanks.
I will add that such articles don’t appear exclusively in Fleet Street tabloids : you can find similar articles in “respectable” outlets like The New Yorker and The Atlantic.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Holy fucking cope batman
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Men generally are experts at avoiding unnecessary work.
That applies to women too, and fuck me that text-scraper isn't something I'd even want the penthouse in. Too much work, too little reward. Age out sweetie, plenty of better and younger women to take your place.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I can 100% guarantee this woman that Richard Branson would not choose her.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
There is so much insanity in this woman's post. It's hard to choose which comment is the most stupid, amongst such an embarrassment of riches.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Well, ahem, I did. I think her opening comment set the tone for the rest of them, but sometimes you gotta set out the buffet. I think I have found the Carol waterhole hole paradigm: They tend to cluster around women's-dating-advice websites.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Here opening comment was 24 carat gold. She says;
"I hate that women are not being realistic if.....they are not being realistic".
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
I've seen several comments over the years, including here, that dating is at least a "free market" where the government (not yet) can tell you whom you can date.
The problem with this "free market" is that it creates irrational, destructive precedents. Would a "free market" work out if anyone over 18 was allowed to buy crack and heroin on the street corner? Or get trans-sexual surgery? Yes, 18 year olds are allowed to go to war (sometimes even forced to) but this is under the supervision of the state. In that case, actually, the military is sometimes invaluable to teach irresponsible young men basic discipline.
Crack for women is that at a young, impressionable age, they can get men to say whatever they want to hear. They're child rock stars or child-movie stars and if you know about "Different Strokes", the kids who were in that all led miserable lives after their fame flattened out. The market teaches women that they can set their own expectations at an age when they lack the maturity to do so.
When they get older, however, they are not rational since they had their expectations set when they were young and brain-mush so their adult brains didn't develop. This woman is a classic example of someone whose a 14 year old in a 30 something body. The hallmark of teenage behavior is a refusal to grow up: "I don't see why I should have to clean my room!!!"
In their defense, there are these motivational speakers who tell them: "If you want to be movie star, don't give up! I didn't and see how famous I am!" The problem is that Hollywood is full of women hobosexuals who sleep with guys to live in the town in order to go to auditions throughout their 20's. Highly recommend the films "The guy who was in that thing" and the "gal" version about how Hollywood chews up aspiring dreamers. 1/2 of the movie roles go to the children of the stars such as Nicolas Cage or Kate Hudson.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
The valid critique of free market economics is that people aren’t always rational actors, and their free decisions can be mutually destructive.
An aged single woman is a perfect example. Remember that for every 45 year old woman complaining about how she can’t find anyone, there’s a man out there who is, by all objective measures, the proper level of man for her to expect, who would really like the company of a significant other. But can’t get it, because women have been trained to believe that he isn’t “at their level”.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
correct - there is a thriving market which is purely telling women what they want to hear. Books, movies, therapy, pop songs, life style coaches, dating coaches etc etc etc.
All of these are telling women what they want to hear. That they are special, that they deserve more, and that they should never, ever settle.
There is zero demand in the market place for telling women what they need but don't want to hear.