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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Yeah well, a lot of women are fat or are otherwise unsuitable to bother committing to. So no shit it's happening a lot.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yep, she’s fat and likely a domineering fattie who thinks her tepid success entitles her to mouth off like attractive women do. She’s obviously rejected tons of dudes on her level.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
I'm reminded of a funny line in "Boogy Nights" where a girl OD's on some H at a party and the guy cries "This is the 3rd time a chick has OD'd on me!" and the party host says "Don't you think you ought to ask yourself if this junk you have is bad?" This is happening to a "lot of women" but there's zero introspection on their part.
This line "Men are insecure so it's not our problem" speaks volumes. For starters, it shows they have an utter lack of empathy (or anti-empathy) towards men. Human beings have insecurities and vulnerabilities hence partly why we want to have relationships. Why have a relationship if you truly are "independent" and "secure?" In the mindset of "independent, strong women", they think they'll form a "power couple" to conquer the world (and to impress all of her "friends", of course). To them, it's a business partnership contingent, of course, on HER goals but dissolved the second it doesn't suit her. Their emotional and physical intimacy is 100% transactional.
It doesn't occur to them that the objects they refer to as "men" have their own interests and agenda and perhaps that's a good thing because this undermines their ability to manipulate us.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
The difference between a low functioning and high functioning sociopath, basically.
Durek_The_Bald 9mo ago
Yup, yup, yup, it's totally not her weight. As everyone knows, men secretly find fat, disgusting pig-women really attractive. It's just our insecuratee that won't allow us to admit it. Goddamn this shame! Damn you to hell! If it wasn't for you, I'd find me a pig-woman, and live happily ever after.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
100% agree! That is why there is such a loud chorus of male voices demanding Lizzo do a Playboy centerfold.....
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
There are Reddit posts with thousands of comments claiming this. Fat Women either : 1. Throw themselves at good looking guys 2. Stalk drunk good looking guys at parties 3. Agree to be a guys Tuesday afternoon blowjob, they then conclude because they fucked a 9, they themselves are a nine. It’s willful ignorance, it’s easy and effortless for women to get their mate value, it’s equal to the highest value of a guy who will commit. Not the passed out guy you fondled, not the guys who swiped right but the guy who commits. If only fours commit, you are a four.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 9mo ago
"Hey, do you know what would really mess-up that lady's self-esteem? If we pretended to not be attracted to fat chicks! Hoo-hoo, that'd be funny, wouldn't it? I mean, there's nothing I love more than sticking my dick into a formless lump of pizza dough! And a navel so deep and difficult to cleanse that it looks like the Snake River Canyon got clogged-up with cottage cheese? YOWZA! But I'll manage to hide all of my carnal urges towards her... just for the malicious laughs which come from hurting her feelings, you understand..."
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I got a hearty laugh at “snake river canyon clogged up with cottage cheese”. This Montana boy thanks you,
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
There’s a plus sized sub-Reddit obsessed with the notion that fit guys love fat chicks. They think: Super fit testosterone addled guy fucks me = he loves me when it’s actually : said guys fuck anything.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 9mo ago
Fat bitter chick: "Men will fuck anything!"
Also fat bitter chick: "He fucks me because I'm special!"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
It never seems to occur to them that just because someone is desperate enough to eat rotting meat, it does not automatically follow that they prefer it.
It just means many men live in such deprivation of affection that they will throw away their dignity and self respect to get even a substandard variant.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yep, a leopard will eat old rotten meat to survive but he’d rather kill his own food. It’s either deprivation or it’s just guys being guys, indeed, a super fit guy who is in good health, with a good libido will let a fat chick suck his dick if she throws herself at him. Such occurrences aren’t love and said guy wouldn’t date such a woman.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 9mo ago
I Lol'd
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 9mo ago
Are you not familiar with the Pig-Woman Experiment?
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Just knowing what that link is fills me with a mixture of disgust and rage.
Durek_The_Bald 9mo ago
There's even an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to pig-women.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig-faced_women
ObliviousDuck Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Do you know how we describe a girl with a pretty face and a smoking ass? The girl with the smoking ass.
Ever shopped for a house and you stumble on that perfect one and cheap too! Then your agent tells you, it's been on the market for 3 years.
That's s an odly specific number to be making "over". Besides, she probably spends more than 3/4 of that in food and wine.
A man with a property in the middle of nowhere is hot, a women with a property in the middle of nowhere has inherited it and is looking for someone to fix it up for her.
Said every guy trying to reach her snatch hidden behind a 200lbs FUPA.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
You missed a key implication in the "mid 30's" number: When women talk about age they tend to average it. If this friend was ONE DAY below 35, she'd absolutely be referred to as "early 30's" or even "just turned 30". "Mid 30's" could apply to a woman up to one day short of 38.
This woman is aging in dog years and yet also trying to lose weight after several decades of failure when getting weight off is the most difficult. Even if she succeed after monumental effort in 2 years, she'll be in her "late 30's" competing with women younger than her who also want to "start a family".
But men are just too "insecure" to enjoy that "challenge" and to "make an effort".
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 9mo ago
Note also that while she has allegedly been trying (and failing) to lose weight, she also has baby rabies. A few things:
1) A woman has to be really fat if even her bestie - who is advocating for her - is willing to admit that she’s fat.
2) If she didn’t have the self control to manage her weight when she was young and childless, how in the world is she going to develop that self control when she’s older and has the excuse of pregnancy weight and the distractions of having a small child to care for?
3) How is she going to maintain her $110,000+ income, and the huge amount of property when she’s knocked up and has kids?
3a) Her current salary is worse than useless because she’s accustomed to living far better than she will be when her wages drop to zero.
3b) That land will have to be maintained, which means that either her husband will have to do that while she sits on her ever-expanding ass feeding Hot Pockets to the kids, or they’ll have to hire someone to do it, which is another expense that will have to come out of his earnings.
Look at it from the man’s perspective. (Yeah… I heard it, too.). A guy who has his act together well enough to trigger the hypergamy of a woman who owns a lot of land, has a six figure income, and thinks she’s pretty is going to have a LOT of options. If he chooses her, he gets a woman who wants kids, but is already at the point where every pregnancy will be high risk because of her age and weight. He gets a woman who’s used to spending six figures on herself, and switching her to a lifestyle where at least three people have to live on one income and perform / arrange maintenance on her huge tracts of land. He gets a woman who WILL BE OBESE HER ENTIRE LIFE.
Yeah… that’s a hard pass.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Another aspect of "land in the middle of nowhere" is that this probably doesn't help her dating life much. She may work remote or perhaps has a long commute but either way, that cuts back on her ability to socialize as her biological clock strikes midnight.
What's funny about this one is I stumbled onto it in my feed and chuckled and screenshot it but then scrolled down the comments and found the gold that after she had declared men "broken", she admits that her bestie was fat. They, and their friends, default blame men as "broken" and "insecure" even as there are obvious reasons for why they're single.
Imagine if some poor guy was to commit to this woman and then she engaged in further bad behavior such as eating the hot pockets and such and she simply blamed him, or told him to "man up" in the relationship. If she's this much in denial now AND supported by her friends in it, what kind of marriage would that be for him?
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
She’s willfully obtuse about her options: A good looking but deeply flawed guy or a good dude who is her looksmatch. She wants a guy who earns like her but who is a good looking aging frat bro.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
That's a solid analysis.
This part here is the best:
These women fail to take into account the man's side of the equation. They treat men like things to be shopped for instead of people with their own options. What's worse for women like this is that they mistakenly factor in things that don't count (or should count against them) into their SMV as positives, artificially inflating their self worth.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Yeah if she were shopping for a house-husband, those assets might help, but most men know exactly how well the average woman treats a man of lower socioeconomic status - which to be blunt, is like shit usually.
So they aren't willing to audition for that role even if she were willing to cast for it.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
This is important, if she’s obsessed with looks, she could “pay” a good looking (but otherwise unimpressive) guy to be with her, by paying all the bills AND being the house wife. I know a few women who do this, likely because they want attractive kids. This arrangement immediately falls apart when said woman (seeing how her attractive friends nag their husbands) decides she can do the same. Bro then simply leaves.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I always tell men to never put themselves in a position where they need a woman.
Every fucking time a man is underneath a woman in any setting, she treats him with contempt. I think, especially in relationships, that this is because she subconsciously resents him for not being stronger than her (and if he isn't stronger than her, he's definitely not strong enough to handle other men.)
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Yup, which makes it extra sad/hilarious that women complain about male "insecurity" when it's simply men knowing what the consequences are of ever failing to be a "better" person than her in every perceivable metric...and it's a dynamic that women enforce ruthlessly whether they mean to or not.
We have to be superior to them to be considered human by them, and then they have the gall of expecting those of us passing that benchmark to treat them as absolute equals. Like, no bitch, I'm better than you and that's what you wanted - deal with it.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
They are hypergamous yet don't realize that the act of hypergamy puts them, by default, as inferior to the kind of men they want to commit to them.
Moreover, they're actually repulsed by men treating them as true equals. If you make a woman shoulder any of your burden (not even 50%) then she will immediately question your masculinity.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
God forbid she actually try to lose weight. Nope, its those men who can't get it up for her overflowing rolls.
I've never seen a fat chick that I was attracted to. The "pretty face" thing is correct, in that you might see something that could be there if she dropped 80 pounds, but you're not going to stick around until it happens.
Women sit at the finish line looking for men who have built up their lives to a point that they like, men look for women who aren't the housing equivalent of a "fixer upper" in a weed-choked lot.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
A pretty face only makes the fat more tragic.
In fact, two women work for me and both of them are fat. One is fat and ugly whereas the other is fat but could be pretty. In my head, I consider the second woman to be a bigger fucking idiot. At least the ugly one wouldn't stand a chance regardless but the other woman would have a shot if she gave a fuck.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
And if a man does get with a fat chick and she loses weight, she will likely decide that she can do better now and dump him.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Yup. Safer bet for a man is to hold out for a skinnier woman that prefers him over her other options. Since then he at least knows he's not a desperation pick in that aspect.
Same methodology applies to her age, and motherhood status. (main difference there is a woman can't get younger, and generally can't become childless). Educational attainment and increased income is a common situation where a woman can suddenly renege on commitment due to perceived ability to upgrade though. So men are rightfully wary of investing in a woman in those situations.
DextroShade 9mo ago
Are women "insecure" for not wanting to date guys under 6'?
Pic889 9mo ago
Yes they are. A guy under 6' can do everything a guy over 6' can (other than comfort a woman's insecurities about her own height), so there is insecurity from the woman's side involved. An obese woman is an emergency hospital visit waiting to happen, so a man having a preference for regular BMI women is simply practising common sense.
I wonder how many obese people have a blood test every 2 years to check their LDL and HDL. Because you can't be obese and healthy. I am saying this because the euphemism "living in large bodies" has started floating around the interwebs (chosen by obese people to euphemistically describe themselves), as if their bodies are the penthouse of bodies and not in an unhealthy condition.
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I disagree, height is immutable like race. I don’t fault anyone for liking or disliking immutable characteristics.
Justanaverageguy 9mo ago
Notice this friend didn’t mention a damn thing about personality or if she can cook or if she keeps a clean house. There’s your red flags.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Modern men are broken I am really really pleased about this. They have adapted and evolved to a market weighted against them. They won't always behave in the default ways. They won't always marry just because a woman is available or has a pretty face.
Well done men. keep it up. You need to get a lot more broken yet before you make it to better times.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Doubt it. This is just friend's attempt to make fatty look good. The better her friend looks the more she can say "men are broken". But a fat face is not a pretty face. Fat faces come with double chins and look like large eggs with fat rolls. Disgusting.
Of course she does. All women do, because that is how they become successful. No matter how much women try to deny it, they know this deep down, biologically. This is why older women without a husband and children are so bitter and jealous.
WE DON'T CARE. The more she makes, the more expectations and bad attitude she comes with.
The best a woman can make is zero. A woman making $0 is totally dependent on her father or husband and knows it. Keeps her humble and keeps her in line. She is home taking care of the house and children: cleaning, homeschooling, and cooking.
Far too old to marry or start having children. You should have married 15+ years ago before you were fat and old and ugly. Prepare for the rest of your life alone, in the middle of nowhere in your bank-owned house.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I like the "Makes Zero" one the best. I truly don't care what the fuck she makes, because like most men I've built my life into something that could handle her needs financially with no problem.
That's the way it fucking should be, but instead society skewed to this permanent women-in-the-workforce mode that we only really needed during wartime. Just the cancer of Feminutz, paying foul and poisoning dividends.
Its also a conundrum for any man with a solid financial footing, because if you advertise your status as such you are met with legions of opportunistic whores who aren't worth the rideshare fare to get out of your fucking house, if they even get in to begin with.
Fuck, might as well build a citadel somewhere remote and just sit back until the skies glow crimson from the cities imploding, the rate we're going. (Yes, a bit bleak this saturday, my apologies.)
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
War was used as an excuse for lots of things: to get women into factories and careers, indiscriminately target civilians with bombs, torture of POWs, and starve millions of a country's own people (the holodomor of course, I don't believe in the other holo-thingy).
Of that list, what is the most damaging to a nation in the long run?
Nothing wrong with a little Black Saturday :D
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 9mo ago
I'm insecure that I won't be able to love all of their fat
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
When women have preferences, they're empowered.
When men have preferences, they're insecure.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Check your entitlement woman. Just because you have material X does not mean men owe you a relationship.
His psyche, his choice.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
I want a family. Pass.
Which means “fat and caked with makeup”. Pass
So she’s like me, except around half as valuable. And fat.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 9mo ago
Holy shit this is hilarious.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Followup comments from the poster and other strong women claim that fat men can find pretty women if they've got good jobs and a home but it's not the other way around. The poster then said for her friend "What's she supposed to do? Whore around with men that don't meet her physical standards?"
This woman and the other commenters don't seem to think that men have a right to our own standards and we're "broken" if we do.
PoopBeast 9mo ago
Did anyone make the obvious retort that "short women can find attractive men if they're good looking enough but not the other way around"?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 9mo ago
"Ohh suuure: Chris Farley can shake his titties and get dollar bills stuck in his cleavage and he's FUNNY, but when I do it, I'm a dumb tramp all of a sudden! Fuckin' sexists!"
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago
Yep, obesity is not arbitrary, guys get this, every RP guy will tell their fat bro to lose weight. Losing weight has a bigger return for women, with even six months of discipline the caliber guys she could attract would shoot up.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 9mo ago
Funny how eat right, get exercise, and lose weight were never options. Oh wait, that takes effort and discipline.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 9mo ago Stickied
Woman: "I don't know what I'm doing wrong."
Men: "You're fat."
Woman: "I've tried everything! I got counseling, I bought new makeup, got more clothes, I don't know what to do!"
Men: "You're fat. Lose the weight."
Women: "I just wish men would explain it to me what they want."
Men: "You're fat. We don't want that."
Women: "Men are broken!"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 9mo ago
Excellent summary