Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
You sweet summer child.
Yes, dating in your 40s is different, just not in the ways you hope
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Well bless her heart
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I'm guessing that its different because there are so many more options available to her now, because she has so much more experience of life, knows what she wants and is just more rounded as an individual.
Right?
Right??????
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Good heavens! That almost reads like sarcasm!
You would never indulge in such, would you?!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Heaven forbid!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
"Why can't my first 25 years of courtship last forever?"
Maybe courtship was never meant to be a multi-decade lifestyle subsidy?
...nah, it's because men are shallow and selfish.
Kloi 3mo ago
Was out to eat and the table next to me were two 45ish people on what appeared to be a first date. Seemed awkward as fuck but that may have just been the guy.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3mo ago
Why can't my credit stay good forever? Losing two cars and a house due to lack of payment shouldn't impact it all that much. It's unfair to have past mistakes brought up against me now - I'm a different person, so much more mature. I know better now.
JudgeSmales 3mo ago
"But my terrible credit looks good according to my age."
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
My credit score is the same as my age. That's got to count for something, right?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
In Y2K, I rented a room from a 45 year old pop psychologist who wrote a book for women to find men. In her personal life, she wanted courtship to last forever: Namely the man should give her flowers, buy her dinners, and hold her doors forever. My 20 something housemate girl chuckled that even she knew this was ridiculous: She knew that men would only put up with such nonsense for a while until he got laid and then dial back. She knew how the game was played, but a woman who wrote an actual "game book" for women was utterly naive.
It's astonishing how the stars had to align for the social convention of "traditional dating" as we know it to work: There had to a strong economy and social conventions offering lots of men decent jobs in their youth to provide for a family, women had to earn significantly less than men, housing had to be cheap and affordable so he could afford the bachelor pad (or at least a "starter home"), and there had to be an environment where women and men could mingle and make it easy for men to ask them out. (Most marriages happened around the age of 21 when women and men went to school). Later, during the 1970's as marriages happened later, work was a popular place for men to ask women out.
All of these conditions were dismantled during the 1990's: Laws were put into place to penalize men asking out women at work or even in college. Women started to earn close to men, but also wages overall were reduced. The cost of living soared.
That reminds me of how the car market it doing: There are tens of thousands of F-150 trucks sitting in dealer lots priced at $85 grand. Any takers?
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
Nah. That author wasn't naive. She just knew her audience, and knows that that audience doesn't want to hear painful truths. Best way to get them to spend $20 on her book is to tell them exactly what they want to hear, namely that the women (her readers) are great, they don't need to change, men suck and need to change, and if only they'd do that, women would get everything their hearts desire (even if it's a logical impossibility like fried ice)
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I remember entering the workforce in the 90s. I must have attended at least 5 sexual harassment trainings every time I started a new job. Instead of getting promoted to a good paying job, it went to the hoe that fucked her way up the ladder. More recently when I had my own company, every female hire made false sexual harassment claims against the male workers(except Chad).
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
But of course. Chad may grope tits around the office at will. It shouldn't be "all work, no fucking on the desks"!
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
It's a good measurement tool to track your progress. Grab a woman's ass. If HR calls you into the office, you're not a Chad yet. But don't give up! Maybe you'll be good by the time you land your next job!
PoopBeast 3mo ago
Imagine being this clueless about the opposite sex.
I think it's time psychologists stopped considering women to be the more empathetic.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
my theory is that women are the more delusional of the species.
The thing that women are most delusional about? Female nature.
Women don't understand themselves at all. Because they don't want to. It would involve a modicum of introspection, self awareness and accountability.
And we all know thats not going to happen.
PoopBeast 3mo ago
It's an interesting debate. I have no idea which is more apt - cluelessness or delusion. Has to be at least some of both.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 3mo ago
Yup. Even the most plugged-in bloopie men demonstrate an intuitive understanding of this. When everything has gone wrong and they're at their absolute lowest and most frustrated, what do they all ask?
"WHAT DOES SHE WANT?!"
Most women never ask this about men. Generally speaking, the closest they get to doing so is asking "How do I make him want me?"
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Ironically, RP and PUA thinking taught men to stop asking "what does she want" to "what will get me laid". Giving someone what they want doesn't necessarily mean they'll reciprocate and give you what you want. In a perfect market, that is how it's supposed to work but smart marketing works by playing upon people's fears as much as their desires. This is particularly true of women in that women notoriously respond negatively to what they CLAIM to want which is: "nice, safe beta males who help around the house and respect her boundaries".
Women figured out a long time ago that giving men sex doesn't necessarily result in commitment and they evolved cartel-like behavior to manipulate men by withholding it.
Their problem is they broke their own cartel and throw themselves at alpha chads. Also, they lack an ability to relate to men in a manner aside from withholding sex and social interaction.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I was thinking recently about the "real man" shaming ploy to demand certain behaviors from men (paying the bills, being protective, not showing any signs of awkwardness).
What's a "real woman" then?
The chivalrous ideal of women was: empathic: Crying would elicit pity from such a woman, rather than contempt. matronly: If a man's house is filthy, she would feel excited about being needed and look for ways to clean it up. If he has dirty shoes on the date, that's a good sign that he doesn't have a woman doing it for him.
Pleasant: A smile on her face most of the time.
Social: A Real Woman knows what's going on and can correctly assess a situation. She's observant for social cues.
In some ways, a PUA today has all of the social skills that Victorian era women had while women as of the past half century or so have the social skillset of Sheldon on The Big Bang.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
A fat cynical bagasse with baggage and demons.
The word Real is stolen by them and made into a Orwellian nightmare
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
She has opinions which she shares frequently. Loud ones. Especially when no one asks for them.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Nah, Sheldon was funny.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
One of my wife's shallow friends loved TBBT and I was prejudiced against it for that reason but I find it growing on me. It's an interesting concept how a genius prodigy is in some ways, quite based albeit in a childish, naive way.
Sheldon's social dysfunction stems from a lack of guidance from his parents and mentors. He was surrounded in a small town by people literally dumber than him so he never had a social discussion with someone above him. When I was young, I got wonderful social insights from gym and shop teachers (they were the most badass guys I ever met, Chuck Norris types) and provided me with wonderful insights when I was in my early teens. Sheldon's parents did him wrong by not sending him to Caltech when he was younger and setting him up with someone to mentor him.
In this forum, we read of middle aged women who are coming to realizations too late after they have hit the wall. I am giving my daughter insights into life from the earliest of times. I take her to the playground and have her initiate social interactions. If she has a problem at school, we discuss and work it out. I explain to her that she has value, for herself and from me, and I don't want her to give that up to a hivemind of people who are clueless. (see The Abilene Paradox).
If there's one reason to marry in this dangerous age, it's the satisfaction that comes from giving a child the insights we didn't have when we were young.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
No no they aren't clueless, They are playing a game to draw wools over your eyes.
You are a good man ™ and you wont look for younger, prettier women, would you?
PoopBeast 3mo ago
I don't know. I think some of them are genuinely clueless.
It's actually kind of a hilarious, age old debate worthy of it's own meta thread; "Are women more clueless, or more conniving?" -which of the two explains them better?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago Stickied
I think the proper descriptor would be "low to high functioning sociopaths that get a pass on their behavior due to vagina". Then it becomes function of just how much manipulation skills a woman has picked up, and her ability to use them in a long term manner or not.
Some of them are just really bad at it or have not picked up the skills yet, and why.
Maturin_nj 3mo ago
They are both. Their cluelessness however has no boundaries. It's like they are blue pilled. Saw article where Kathy Lee Gifford who is now in her 70s said she's single and looking for love. She smashed into the wall. It's over. She's in the invisibility stage now but it appaeantly hasnt occurred to her.
PoopBeast 3mo ago
Right, that's what I'm saying; there has to be at least some cluelessness for women to do those things.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3mo ago
A few years ago Sharon Stone got kicked off some dating app because they just assumed her profile was fake.
Why would Sharon “Basic Instinct” Stone need to be on a dating app?
The answer, of course, was that she was by that time in her 60s, and her former status as a Hollywood Sex Goddess had long-since expired. Sure… her money had purchased a lot of age-defying tricks, and plenty of guys of from my generation would toss one her way because of who she used to be. But… no man who could measure up to her hypergamy would take her seriously for a relationship.
I forget the details, but she ended up convincing them that she was who she said she was.
JudgeSmales 3mo ago
Her: "Men between the ages 44-55, is dating (a) woman over 45 different?"
Me: "Different from dating a 25-year-old? Yes it is. Shall I list all the ways?"
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3mo ago
Note the timeline. Her age… her kid’s ages… the length of time she’s been single. The Devil is always in the details.
She doesn’t say whether she’s a divorcee or a baby mamma (if she had been widowed she would have said so). We do know that she had her kids when she was in her 20s, and split with their father(s) when she was around 30.
We can’t know the details of what she left out, but we can speculate based on what she said and left unsaid. Did she try to baby-trap Chad? Did she divorce a good man because she thought she could do better? Did she marry a BadBoi (tm) and try to bring him to heel with her magical va-jay-jay?
We’re quickly running out of possible ways that her plight isn’t her fault.
Also… is she fat? Most women her age are bordering on obesity. We know that she has two teenagers at home and that you are NOT THEIR DAD!
Screw this: my plane is about to take off.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
For goodness sake, can't we educate women in the west about even the most simple and fundamental things.
Men are attracted to fertility and health. The wall strikes when these things fail to meet minimum levels for "would reproduce with".
From that point on, you have to make it on your character and what you can bring to the table ladies. You did work on your character and gathering skills and assets to bring to the table all those years you were being courted? right?
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
OMG you are so shallow check your privilege/ whiteness (even if you are not white, paint yourself white and then check your whiteness)
Women dont exist to reproduce with men. In men want that, they will remain single forever (conveniently move the spotlight from her to the single men).
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
True, men exist for women to reproduce with (if and only if they want).
The only power men really have in this situation is the power of "no", though I suspect they should check that privilege.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 3mo ago
I just checked, saying "no" still works.
We're good, fellas.
nicknack 3mo ago
I have a friend she is a very attractive Asian woman in NYC 45yo. Don’t have the heart to tell her it’s over. She’s accepted having no kids but doesn’t want a beta husband. I think he best bet is to go much older (60’s), but the attractive older guys in their 60’s are dating the smoke show 40’s blondes.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Tell her I have an open slot for a 2nd wife, depending on her income and assets...
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I don't mind sharing. If she has a Bently and takes me out for dinner 4 -5 times a month. I might even buy her a drink or 2.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
She hasn't picked up on the biggest reason: she's looking for dates online, and online sites allow people to set hard age limits. And people being people, they pick nice round numbers, usually multiples of five, for their age limits. 2 years ago, she was 44, and still slipped through the filters for people looking for upto 45. As soon as she hits 46, a huge number of potential matches now get filtered out, and she's left with people looking for upto 50.
The reduction in matches in real-life dating is usually pretty gradual. Even people who think they have hard limits will often overlook them if a person is really great. But OLD doesn't allow that. The limits people set are hard limits. There is no common friend to say "I know you said you're looking for early forties but this person is really great and you should give her a chance."
Is she so dense that she doesn't realize the same filters that are so "awesome" because they hard filter out those "gross older guys" that are older than 55, are the same filters that "suck" because they allow desirable men to do the same thing to her?
nicknack 3mo ago
Felt this when I hit 31. At 30 was still matching 18-21 year olds all day, from the day of my 31st birthday now it’s all 25-28, because they have their filter up to like 35 instead of 30.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
What do you think boys? Should she settle?
Or should she keep on going with the same old, just listing her demands and flaws, safe in the knowledge that she 'is the table', what with all her life experience. I'm sure her prince will come. He must be just around the corner.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
He must be just around the corner.
The problem is the earth is round. You will never get to a corner.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Settling for women is when they feel the need for a man so desperately that she will try to get into a relationship with a guy she would have used as a foodie call or placed into the Friend-Zone just a couple of years earlier, IOW, a bad deal for the man she settled for as she will resent his sorry ass for not being the top-tier man she feels she deserves.