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mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I copy and posted this article in another site. Oh the shit that I got from women. One woman stated that no woman/women wrote the article. I provided the link to it. She refused to click on it. Other women did the man shaming thing. I must hate women or have a small pee pee, etc.. It seems there is a certain percentage of women who don't want to know the possibility of their future if they don't change their life style. The thought of being a left over does not fit with current feminist views, and even women, a generation ahead of them, telling what happened to them has no impact.
2 days ago, in linkedin.com, I ran into a woman I worked with 10 years ago. She is divorced and has been single for close to 20 years. She was aging badly when I knew her. She wants to get married for the financial security. She has to be late 50's early 60's. No man wants her.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
this is why inter generational socialisation is so important.
In the old days, young women would spend a lot of time with older women. It would be normal to have 3 or even 4 generations of women in a room, knitting or quilting or baking or whatever. And they would talk. And pass on knowledge to each other.
The older women would tell the girls advice such as;
Don't be a slut once a reputation is gone, you can't get it back
Don't be a fool - being married to a decent guy is better than dying alone (even if the guy is only 5'11 (the horror!!!) and has no abs (ick!!!) and isn't famous (PUKE!!!!)
Having children is the most important thing in life
Men will notice you and give you a lot of attention when you are young, for a few years, but this will not last. You will enjoy this attention, but you must pick one and then make a life with him. You cannot exist your whole life in the gaze of courters.
Love changes over time - romance in the beginning, and then mutual respect and admiration.
Being alone when you are older is terrible - nobody will care for you, rescue you
You have the best choice of men until the age of 23 - then the choices drop quite quickly
Life is like a game of musical chairs - wait to long, there is nowhere to sit, because everyone else choose earlier.
You're not different or special - on average people are average.
You're not a princess, so you won't be marrying a prince
men are people just like us. they have feelings and faults.
Your man will adore you, if you obey him and care for him.
A life time of marriage with children is the best outcome for any woman. It means that you will not die alone. It means that you will be loved and remembered. It means that people will visit your grave.
But young women these days just hang out with other young women. They meet up, drink white wine and cocktails, get their advice from tik tok and therapists, and they have no clue what to do, and end up at 50, single, with no man, no kids and no money, and no future.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
they have no clue what to do, and end up at 50, single, with no man, no kids and no money, and no future.
I like happy endings.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Are you feeling spite or shadenfreude?
If so, check your feelings. It's not manly. It's childish.
Instead, you should feel sorry for these women that will end up as inspins, without the miracle of childbirth. With nobody to visit their graves, nobody to hold their hands as they die.
We are in a coupling emergency. Researchers have published a paper which shows that over 50% of native born women in the west will never have a child. This has never happened before. Fuck covid, we are in a lonliness epidemic. We are destroying western civilisation.
it's not men vs women. Men do not 'win' when women end up alone and childless with only cats and wine. We lose. Because for every inspin, there is a man out there that would have liked to form a family. Their loss is our loss. So maybe we should all calm down on the 'Karma bitchez!!' comments.
Men are losing out on family life, which leads to emptiness, lonliness and often suicide. The leading cause of death for men under 50 in the west is suicide.
So no, its not a happy ending. For anyone.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Are you feeling spite or shadenfreude?
How about holding women accountable for their choices? If a woman buys into the strong independent woman who needs a man like a fish does a bicycle, then she gets what she deserves.
I agree male and female need each other. But one gender has demonized the other for the last 30 or more years. Ever hear of Toxic Masculinity? The Patriarchy? Mansplaining? Glass Ceiling? Then add into the mix women using dating for free meals, drinks, trips, vacations etc. Men are used as ATM's
You: Men do not 'win' when women end up alone and childless with only cats and wine. We lose. Because for every inspin, there is a man out there that would have liked to form a family. Their loss is our loss. So maybe we should all calm down on the 'Karma bitchez!!' comments.
If you have an answer, then tell the rest of us. Being Captain Save-a Hoe, to my best guess, will result in divorce rape in a few years.
I wrote this a few years ago.
Think about this. If overnight, instead of women rewarding shitbags with sex, they rewarded the kindest, most loving, most caring, honest, hard working men, socially responsible men of society, all children would be loved and cared for and all women loved and protected. So ladies, step up to the plate and choose a good man for once, instead of f*cking the bad boys you complain so much about. That would be a real change for the better for everyone.
Such behavior would facilitate the creation of more good men. It would incentivize positive behavior from men and at the same time stigmatizing bad behavior women claim to hate. The problem is that women don’t hate such behavior, or if they do, their lust for Chad, Bad Boy, Gangbanger, Thug, Criminal, Ex-Con, etc., overcomes any hatred of bad behavior by these men. Women’s tingles override logic and reason. But for those women who choose the “tingles” mating strategy, it has been shown over and over again to end in failure. We don’t live in cave man times anymore. The days of Brains over Braun are here. And women who live in a bygone era of “tingles” lose, and lose big time. As proof, all one has to do is look at the kind of men single moms choose. Were they good men? Most likely not. They chose tingles and lost. A few of these single moms will find a Billy Beta to support them, but even the Billys are starting to wake up to the down sides of dating single moms.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
So you see my posts. I tend to be charitable towards people in general.
While I still see some deflection of accountability (“I was brainwashed” says the women who styled themselves as “the smart ones” that made it all the way to a stalled out middle management career before asking questions), it’s pretty telling that every single woman in that group had the same outcome and they have actually directed their anger at the perpetrators; the ones who told them that chasing after a life that maybe 0.1% of the population leads (and isn’t even guaranteed to make them happy) is better than focusing on their relationship future.
Now will this story be widely disseminated outside of red pill spaces? Of course not. Will 21 year old daddy’s princesses see this and rethink their plans of graduate school and corporate indentured servitude? Nope, not many. These women could scream from the rooftops all of their regrets, and the people who are paid to tell us what to think will simply work OT on why their pain is just a manifestation of internalized misogyny and point us back to the one woman that makes $1m a year by spending half of her time getting fawned over on podcasts
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
Boo hoo
So sad. Feminism made her Life more difficult than the average man's
Woe is me
/s
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Same generation of feminists that would protest against men getting domestic abuse shelters AT ALL are now throwing pity parties for the earned outcomes of their toxicity and animus against men.
Never forget this.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Back when Hoe_math was any good he coined the phrase “not people” for men who women look straight past and don’t even categorize as men - think average and below, by definition the majority.
Their biology only lets them consider above average and elite men as men, so in their minds, being male = having high economic and social power.
They never connect that if they, themselves, were male, the majority of them would be “not people” just like the majority of males are.
This blindspot is why they can spin ever more convoluted theories about gender dynamics but can’t understand the basics of the economic system they live in.
Obviously there can only be a small ratio of elite people to the rest, this is the definition of elite - however their minds short circuit this thought with the soothing idea that this is due to patriarchy, and therefore will not apply once women are free to shine.
They’ve been free to shine for a while now and they still haven’t diagnosed the central problem: it’s not that feminism told them they could become men, it’s that their concept of men was so narrowly defined as to exclude all the negative experiences they now live.
They drew cards from a deck that they were sure was stacked, and still haven’t connected that there’s only 4 aces for every 52 cards…
They wanted to become Harvey Weinstein, but they wound up Background Extra #4.
Now they’ve got to play the hand they drew, and live as the “not people” they accidentally fought to become.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
For all that he isn't as great as many people think, I still like hoe_math. He's entertaining.
But this is what drives me nuts about YouTube: he gets credit for that, but that's been a manosphere talking point for a very long time, with many comments at the WAATGM subreddit as well as here at WAATGM forum talking about how women don't view men they aren't attracted to as people for several years.
And I doubt it even originated here.
Well said. Let's get you upgraded to Junior Hamster Analyst.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I think Hoe_math just distilled things into easy pictograph form with short vids, and that is what he's been riding on. Not sure if he fell off or not in popularity, but I give him credit for making it digestible to "modern" attention spans. Every bit that can educate younger men helps.
His "Not People" illustration really does capture the blindness that women have to the 80% of men out there. (Probably skewed to about 95% at this point in rabid feminutz ideology.)
I especially like his "Men make more than me, Govt Help!!, I want a man to make more" loop that he talks about. Until that breaks, its going to be brutal out there.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
That truly was a masterpiece.
oowiw Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Great points, Hoe_math is very entertaining and widens the audience I think!
Thanks for the flair! It's a great motivation to put effort into comments.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
What I noticed even with this somewhat introspective article was it was still self centered: Little interest or observation on what men went through aside from our role as financial and validation providers. They want the benefits of personal relationships with men, but they don't even have an idea of what that means. Her close with a re-affirmation for women's rights illustrates the fundamental issue is she isn't prepared to handle equal responsibilities.
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
Disagree. There wasn't anything introspective about that article at all.
No accountability and no responsibility. It was all society's fault. 'Everyone around them...EVERYONE...forced feminism down their throats'.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
In all fairness to them, they're women. I believe an important step in RP thinking is accepting women are women but can still otherwise be good people. Heck, note that most men still live a BP existence otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. I think the most BP'd men I know were the ones who had a pretty good childhood, reasonably good looking, could get tail, and never were challenged much and so they pay the bills and get married thinking that's what's "normal" and then they're shocked when they get divorce raped later.
Women are even more susceptible to groupthink in that from an early age, it's easier for them to socialize. Adults and children alike are more social with them, cut them slack emotionally, and shield them from independent challenges. I just had a talk with my wife where she says I was "pushing" my girl too much to study even when she was a bit tired. I don't just throw her into the water, but I do mentor her and challenge her and set, and teach, her the concept of clear consequences.
I'm reminded of a story about a 35 year old guy who was falling apart and went to the doctor and the doctor determined he had no vitamins for his whole life because his mother let him eat only chicken nuggets and french fries, nothing else, his whole childhood and that was the case in adulthood. Not even gave him tablets. It's tragic: The parents, media, churches, corporations, government are all complicit in telling emotionally undeveloped girls they are Disney Princesses.
Now granted, when I've tried to calmly and respectfully tell them they're not, and why their PP eventually decays in various stages, they tell me to eff off. It's rather Biblical when you think about it as people laughed around Noah's ark as the rain was starting to fall.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I couldn't help noticing that the entire article starts with the premise they are victims being "force-fed" feminutz ideology, like they have zero personal agency to figure shit out.
The victim-framing really annoys the fuck out of me sometimes, but yes, I realize all women do this shit. (Well, most I've ever met.)
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Agreed. As a Catholic, I know it’s just our nature to buy pretty lies. Women are even more susceptible to this. Just because someone spent 35 years fully invested in chasing after a lie laid out to them by people they trusted doesn’t make them bad humans.
The fact is, this is even how many “smart” people operate. Don’t ask questions, just trust what those in power tell me. Line up for your Covid vaccination; sure it doesn’t work well and it hasn’t gone through nearly as many trials as a vaccine should, but it’s good for you. Celebrate our new DEI department, it’s not here to organize ways to discriminate against you. I’ve met people who could practically design Skynet that didn’t ask a single question about this.
So yeah, we can say that they should’ve sorted out the BS 30+ years before and it’s ultimately their own fault. But it’s kind of like student loans. Just because someone has $150k of debt that they’ll never pay off and it’s their own fault for being a sheep, it’s disingenuous to not acknowledge that they were led to that outcome. Because no one would willingly sign up for an adulthood start where they are saddled with $150k of debt and no savings or work experience at age 25. But if you promise them a $180k+ a year career that will give them satisfaction and status, suddenly the lemmings line up to run off the cliff.
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
I agree. Women are women because they are women. I'm not saying that women can't be good people. I agree that they are susceptible to their environment.
That still doesn't give them a free pass. Most of these women know they're making bad choices, choose to make those bad choices anyway, and then try to justify making those bad choices because they know they can get away with it. The reward verses risk is way too great to not pass up on the deal.
Then there are many women out there who always have and always will reject mainstream feminism. Even when they are facing the exact same influences and society that the other women face, they refuse to fall prey to the social norm. Because they know it's wrong. Because they know better.
I can understand a child making bad choices because they didn't know any better, but a grown ass adult who has seen the reality of how the real world works? They look at their friends getting married and having children, and see the consequences of their choices. They cry about it on social media, and in the next breath turn right around to fire up an evening session of OnlyThots.
They know exactly what they're doing. A lot of it very intentionally. Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh. Perhaps I'm being the bad guy. But if not me, then who?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
@GimmeTheUsual Agreed that they have free will which I can tell when they revert to their "force feeders" as they say: "Well, EVERYONE agrees with me, not you, that I'm an entitled victim and/or to princess treatment so who cares what YOU think, loser?!?!"
We also see here how they'll say: "I can't change and SETTLE for a normal life! That's not what I WANT and I can't change what I WANT!"
That's the mindset of a spoiled child. A spoiled child wants to stay up all night, not do homework, and then not wake up to go to school. That's what they WANT and they can't change what they WANT, right?
The solution, as a parent, is I tell her: Either you go to sleep AND wake up to go to school or there will be, as robocop put it, "trouble". I threaten to yank a privilege.
But women as legal adults don't get punished directly. They believe that a Real Man could appear and ask her out and solve the problem so why "settle" if it's not necessary? Someone wins the lottery every day! Why not her?
I blame the parents.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Its good that an educated member of the liberal elite (they are all liberal really whoever they vote for) sees that feminism was a bad sell. However I wonder what she would propose in response? She won't want to give up any feminist gains, she will just want more legislation and more education of boys to help women have it all.
The last generation of feminists fed us a lie "women are as good as men and can do anything a man can do as well as a man, so treat us equally!" They got what they wanted with this fair (if ever implemented) but dumb proposal but then the next generation came along and said "we need you to help us to get this equality we have a right to. We are not the same as you we need you to give us a leg up and excuse us a lot of things" This is the way feminism is going. This is why it is the enemy of all men. Until they actually want to make some concession, they need to get liking cats. A woman is a very bad deal for anyone but a man taking on a successful career woman. The man has to provide and support in return for nothing more than a good divorce rape in many cases.
Yesterday I had a daughter of mine (still in school) tell me she didn't want children to ruin her career. Her mother and I tried to explain this was the dumbest thing she ever said as the only career that actually counts in natural selection is that of parent but she has been indoctrinated too well already at school. . .
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I chuckle about the "last generation" of feminists were somehow better. Back in the 1980's, the feminists back already had entitlement attitudes wanting to pick-and-choose only the goodies they wanted. That's 2 full generations ago (well, at least by the old standards of women having a first child at the age of 22 or so).
The dark humor part of this farce is how the feminists thought they would destroy the patriarchy (namely, those successful elites they want to marry) and get all kinds of goodies for themselves with invisible men as serfs. For a brief period for boomer women, say, 1970 to 1990, it was a golden era of entitlement: Plenty of "real men" to marry who treated them as equals in the workplace and paid the bills at home, homes were affordable, and plenty of jobs.
Instead, ironically, patriarchal elites (and many wealthy women elites as well, of course) sold them out as well as us: imported cheap labor, an explosion of the welfare state, inflation, and so on.
Compare and contrast my boomer sister-in-law who demanded that my brother earn more than her, that he did 1/2 of the housework, blah blah blah, and things went well with the average Zoomer today who graduated with debt and a dozen tattoos and wonders how she'll be able to live in a cardboard box on 100 monthly payments of $1000 while making some tech oligarch wealthy.
So as @oowiw put it, they SAID they wanted to be "equal" to "men" which they meant as the oppressor patriarchs they said they reviled but instead they became equal to the invisible non-men that they ignored.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
True. They all even reviled cooking. Cooking was for those non entity immigrant women in canteens who would serve them or mind their children, when they became the elite. Now they can't even afford to feed themselves because they can't cook from scratch. Meantime whole generations of men learned to cook and realised they didn't even need a woman.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Cooking is one of those basic adult skills everyone should have, regardless of sex.
@houseoftolstoy and I and a few others have discussed this at the WAATGM subreddit in the past.
Funny how old conversations become new again!
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
And hilariously at the same time if "passport bros" go overseas to escape the feminutz-polluted dating pool in the West, those same women are just "easily manipulated" and such, because there's no WAY it could be the fault of the women of course.
I have to just throw my arms up at the solipsism sometimes.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Yeah, in femtard religion, if a man has more power, wealth or opportunity, he manipulates the women he has relationships with. If a woman has more power -you go gurl! But ask yourself this, if your daughter went to a richer country -would you rather she went to be the lady of the house or the maid? Which do you think your daughter would rather be for that matter?
Western women who flake out if they don't get period leave from work and need a man to share child rearing duties for one child -strong, foreign women -who can cook a good meal on wood and three stones, clean a house with water they carry from a well and raise a family of 5 or 6 children -weak and easily manipulated.
When I was a student there was a successful campaign at my university to ban products from the company Nestle. This was because Nestle sold baby formula to overseas women (who were "too dumb to know it was bad for their babies"). The same university had a creche for mothers to dump their kids on and have the university experience. The creche of course had formula milk because western women should not have to breast feed if they don't want to -they are not cows for heaven's sake!
Goodness how the hamster dances!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
der dah dee dah dah doe doe doe
dee deet deedle deeee!
Edit - holy shit, I didn't expect to find that it was still around after all these years
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
My wife had problems making breast milk. It was a struggle for her so I went with formula. Note: Emfamil is the better of the two choices. I got with vanilla flavor and I have a rule: I don't give anything to my daughter I don't taste first. I found I liked it so much, I use it for making lattes.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
When I climbed in Greenland, one had to buy a month of supplies, hope one had estimated the amounts right and take it by boat to your base camp, then haul it in packs it to high camps. Light nutritious things in strong packaging tended to be good choices. Tinned dried Danish formula milk was great stuff, one of the highlights of the day. I can remember looking forward to it on my muesli every morning on 3 different trips. That and dried seal meat were my favourites as they were as good the last day as the first.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Yup. Women:
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I remember seeing women proudly wearing shirts that said,"A woman needs a man like a fish does a bicycle" "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" and "Don't want no broke man" or Short men ain't sh*t". Now, single, alone, never married and no kids, reality hits these old women.
I wonder, how could they have ever been that stupid to buy into Feminism, hook, line and sinker? One thing for sure, they can't blame men, the Patriarchy, or Toxic Masculinity for their poor choices. Their free will and their free choices. These women got what they wanted, and years ago they didn't want men. Now it is, Boo Hoo. I want a man in my life.
Years ago, you rejected men for feminism. You got what you wanted. Deal with it.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I personally enjoy shutting down women that try to engage me when its obvious they're card-carrying feminutz believers.
I don't say shit, or if I do, its terse single-word replies to stupid questions I get. They slink away soon after. I even heard one of her male friends try to console her, that she was "pretty" and all that. LOL. It was pretty plain the only reason she kept him around was for the validation.
Its pretty effed up out there, I gotta say.
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
They still wear that shit now lol.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
To any ladies reading this, don't blame feminism. Blame yourselves.
If you're single, childless, and lonely, and you didn't intend to end up this way, it's because of your choices. You were in control, and you made terrible decisions.
Take responsibility. Acknowledge your accountability.
Do that, and I'll at least respect you. Blame feminism (or anything else) for your predicament, and I'll assume you're just trying to pass the buck.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
What I find interesting about this article is the insight into how girls were raised to become the insufferable cunts we have been dealing with. We all know how us men were raised but until now I did not know how the women were.
Maturin_nj 3mo ago
They were raised with zero guidelines on how to interact with men. That's why so many girls treat many guys like crap. Men allowed them to get away with it. That's changing . This is what happens when men treat women with special treatment and as prizes .
Kreaton01 3mo ago
As someone with a sister, I can tell you. The bs my sister gets away with, and I don't mean being favored or anything. She legitimately lives in a dream world. And instead of giving her a reality check, they act like it's a phase she'll get over or something.
Stupid decision after stupid decision, they either ignore or accept it. Sometimes I have to step in when she does something extra stupid, like when she started a known stalker in Instagram, let chat her up. Claiming she was safe because she wasn't going to tell him her address.
And I can only do so much when her parents let her keep being stupid
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
The extent and length that women will cover for each other is pretty fucking wild. I mean, men will stand up for their friends, but I'm talking some next-level scheming shit that a guy would never support if he had any ethics.
Like a girl could be going through a whole group of friends, fucking them in one night in turn through various means, and the friend will swear that they were just sleeping or whatever. A girl's friends will cover for the craziest shit she does.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I have 2 sisters but women do all this stuff in secret that we don't see.
No-Stress-Cat 3mo ago
"It'S nOt My fAuLt, I wAs FoRcE-fEd FeMiNiSm! REEEEEEEE!!!"
Cry me a fucking river. I guarantee you, 30 some-odd years ago, Grandma was sitting around saying, "You're almost 20 now, how come you're not married yet? When am I going to get some great grandbabies?"
They weren't force-fed anything. They CHOSE to live the life of a man. Live by the sword, die by the sword...alone you fucking feminist cunts.
AurelianWay Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Generations of men have not been able to reproduce & pass on their seed because of the forces of natural mate selection (that heavily favored women). Some strong independent women aren't having babies by their own choice, WOMEN MOST AFFECTED.
Comedy gold from the Daily Mail comments. Apparently there is a mass extinction event happening down under.
"Australian woman is dying at the hands of her male partner every 4 days."